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Forcing games to use highest refresh rate?
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I have a BenQ XL2410T that's native resolution is 1920x1080 @ 120hz. However, after some messing around with different resolution setups, I've found that it can handle 122hz at that resolution, without any graphical anomalies or issues. The issue is that whenever I set games to use 1080p my monitor is forced into using 120hz instead of 122hz. The temporary solution I've found is to create a res at 1920x1078 at 122hz which works, but with me being me, I have to try to figure out someway to be able to use my monitor to its highest potential, even if it is only 2 pixels and 2 hertz.

I'm running windows 7 with a gtx 670, 314.22 drivers. I have the option in the control panel to force the highest refresh rate enabled, but it always reverts back to 120hz when at 1080p. I've tried editing the EDID hoping to see some section where I could define the monitor's native resolution to 1080p 122hz, but couldn't find anything. I was able to set the refresh rate range from 56-122 however.

I know my monitor can handle it, but whenever games run in fullscreen (I don't really like running games in windowed if I can help it) it reverts to the lower refresh rate.

I have a BenQ XL2410T that's native resolution is 1920x1080 @ 120hz. However, after some messing around with different resolution setups, I've found that it can handle 122hz at that resolution, without any graphical anomalies or issues. The issue is that whenever I set games to use 1080p my monitor is forced into using 120hz instead of 122hz. The temporary solution I've found is to create a res at 1920x1078 at 122hz which works, but with me being me, I have to try to figure out someway to be able to use my monitor to its highest potential, even if it is only 2 pixels and 2 hertz.

I'm running windows 7 with a gtx 670, 314.22 drivers. I have the option in the control panel to force the highest refresh rate enabled, but it always reverts back to 120hz when at 1080p. I've tried editing the EDID hoping to see some section where I could define the monitor's native resolution to 1080p 122hz, but couldn't find anything. I was able to set the refresh rate range from 56-122 however.

I know my monitor can handle it, but whenever games run in fullscreen (I don't really like running games in windowed if I can help it) it reverts to the lower refresh rate.
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http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU

The Nvidia driver should allow you to configure the resolution and refresh rate, but if you can't get it to work. CRU is an alternative that works for AMD and Nvidia.

http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU

The Nvidia driver should allow you to configure the resolution and refresh rate, but if you can't get it to work. CRU is an alternative that works for AMD and Nvidia.
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Does making it run at the extra 2ghz actually cause a noticeable difference?

Does making it run at the extra 2ghz actually cause a noticeable difference?
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visitnigDoes making it run at the extra 2ghz actually cause a noticeable difference?

Other than 2 more frames being displayed, not really I guess. It's more of a situation where I know my monitor can handle it and I want to figure out how to make it work.

In my mind it's somewhat comparable to overclocking. Sure you can get your cpu for example, up to 3.8ghz or so, but what if you took a bit of time to inch out 3.85 and know that you're getting the absolute most out of what you paid for.

jp_http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU

The Nvidia driver should allow you to configure the resolution and refresh rate, but if you can't get it to work. CRU is an alternative that works for AMD and Nvidia.

Well, I've set up the resolution in the control panel through the custom resolution button. And my driver recognizes it, said it passed the custom resolution test, and I have it as my current resolution on my desktop. But whenever I try to launch a game at full-screen at 1920x1080, it reverts back to 120hz. If I were to run the game in windowed mode, it would use the 122hz resolution. But I would like to try to find a way to make it work in fullscreen, for Vsync in other games, and gamma in TF2 and such.

[quote=visitnig]Does making it run at the extra 2ghz actually cause a noticeable difference?[/quote]

Other than 2 more frames being displayed, not really I guess. It's more of a situation where I know my monitor can handle it and I want to figure out how to make it work.

In my mind it's somewhat comparable to overclocking. Sure you can get your cpu for example, up to 3.8ghz or so, but what if you took a bit of time to inch out 3.85 and know that you're getting the absolute most out of what you paid for.

[quote=jp_]http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU

The Nvidia driver should allow you to configure the resolution and refresh rate, but if you can't get it to work. CRU is an alternative that works for AMD and Nvidia.[/quote]

Well, I've set up the resolution in the control panel through the custom resolution button. And my driver recognizes it, said it passed the custom resolution test, and I have it as my current resolution on my desktop. But whenever I try to launch a game at full-screen at 1920x1080, it reverts back to 120hz. If I were to run the game in windowed mode, it would use the 122hz resolution. But I would like to try to find a way to make it work in fullscreen, for Vsync in other games, and gamma in TF2 and such.
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How do you use cru? Im confused im using a crt and i want 110hz running at 1024x768 but i dont have a clue on what im doing

How do you use cru? Im confused im using a crt and i want 110hz running at 1024x768 but i dont have a clue on what im doing
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i doubt the additional 2hz makes a diff on the benq. it only adds more stress to the electronics which already receive limited cooling.

if it were another monitor however, i would consider it worthwhile to push that 60hz to 75hz.

but if you are that keen, have u set -freq 122 in your lauch options?

i doubt the additional 2hz makes a diff on the benq. it only adds more stress to the electronics which already receive limited cooling.

if it were another monitor however, i would consider it worthwhile to push that 60hz to 75hz.

but if you are that keen, have u set -freq 122 in your lauch options?
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nataponi doubt the additional 2hz makes a diff on the benq. it only adds more stress to the electronics which already receive limited cooling.

if it were another monitor however, i would consider it worthwhile to push that 60hz to 75hz.
but if you are that keen, have u set -freq 122 in your lauch options?

it certainly gets hotter. My acer that I run at 86hz is blazing hot. Nearly a year running like this though.

[quote=natapon]i doubt the additional 2hz makes a diff on the benq. it only adds more stress to the electronics which already receive limited cooling.

if it were another monitor however, i would consider it worthwhile to push that 60hz to 75hz.
but if you are that keen, have u set -freq 122 in your lauch options?
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it certainly gets hotter. My acer that I run at 86hz is blazing hot. Nearly a year running like this though.
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nataponbut if you are that keen, have u set -freq 122 in your lauch options?

I have and it does not work. I have tried all of the different variations even though from what I remember, those launch options do nothing for tf2. It's also not just a TF2 specific thing, it happens when any game goes into fullscreen at 1080p.

[quote=natapon]but if you are that keen, have u set -freq 122 in your lauch options?[/quote]

I have and it does not work. I have tried all of the different variations even though from what I remember, those launch options do nothing for tf2. It's also not just a TF2 specific thing, it happens when any game goes into fullscreen at 1080p.
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Why risk shortening the life of your $400 monitor for 2 extra hertz? Honestly I would just get over it. There's nothing you can use to monitor the LCD's health either so you're basically just blindly turning up settings outside of their recommended spec. I probably killed a cheap dell CRT I bought off craigslist by turning up the refresh rate to 120hz.

Why risk shortening the life of your $400 monitor for 2 extra hertz? Honestly I would just get over it. There's nothing you can use to monitor the LCD's health either so you're basically just blindly turning up settings outside of their recommended spec. I probably killed a cheap dell CRT I bought off craigslist by turning up the refresh rate to 120hz.
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This is seriously a bad idea. If you were milking a cheap 75hz monitor for 100hz, I'd say go for it, but this is nothing more than "how to shorten the lifespan of a device while gaining zero".

You are not "getting the most out of your equipment" by doing this.

This is seriously a bad idea. If you were milking a cheap 75hz monitor for 100hz, I'd say go for it, but this is nothing more than "how to shorten the lifespan of a device while gaining zero".

You are not "getting the most out of your equipment" by doing this.
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OK then, I'll drop it back down to 120. I just assumed there would be no issue with it as I noticed no problems arise. Didn't overheat, didn't have any artifacts or pixel fidelity issues or anything like that.

But yeah, I'll pull it back to 120hz and just use that. Thanks for the food for thought everyone.

OK then, I'll drop it back down to 120. I just assumed there would be no issue with it as I noticed no problems arise. Didn't overheat, didn't have any artifacts or pixel fidelity issues or anything like that.

But yeah, I'll pull it back to 120hz and just use that. Thanks for the food for thought everyone.
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It may not overheat, but there are countless small pieces of electronics that are inside the monitor. You are putting extra strain and probably sucking extra power through components that have very specific ratings. It's very likely that you wouldn't notice anything wrong until one day a few days/weeks/months/years down the road when one of the stressed components finally gives out and your $400 monitor dies due to over-stressing a $3 part.

It's also possible that it'll work fine for years, but there's no reward for the risk at all.

Glad you came to your senses. ;)

It may not overheat, but there are countless small pieces of electronics that are inside the monitor. You are putting extra strain and probably sucking extra power through components that have very specific ratings. It's very likely that you wouldn't notice anything wrong until one day a few days/weeks/months/years down the road when one of the stressed components finally gives out and your $400 monitor dies due to over-stressing a $3 part.

It's also possible that it'll work fine for years, but there's no reward for the risk at all.

Glad you came to your senses. ;)
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Hmm, well that leads to me ask another question of you, if you don't mind, Smaka. On certain games such as GTA 4 in which there is no option for Antialising, I make use of a technique called downsampling. Basically it renders the game at whatever res I choose, such as 2160p, and scales it down to fit my monitor, giving me an effect similar to 2x Supersampling AA. Would this potentially effect anything in my monitor as well?

Thanks for all the info, I had no clue what I was potentially doing to my monitor.

Hmm, well that leads to me ask another question of you, if you don't mind, Smaka. On certain games such as GTA 4 in which there is no option for Antialising, I make use of a technique called downsampling. Basically it renders the game at whatever res I choose, such as 2160p, and scales it down to fit my monitor, giving me an effect similar to 2x Supersampling AA. Would this potentially effect anything in my monitor as well?

Thanks for all the info, I had no clue what I was potentially doing to my monitor.
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No. Downsampling uses hardware and/or software scaling (like you said) to match the output to the monitor's native resolution. You won't hurt the hardware.

No. Downsampling uses hardware and/or software scaling (like you said) to match the output to the monitor's native resolution. You won't hurt the hardware.
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Alright, thanks a bunch for all the information!

Alright, thanks a bunch for all the information!
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visitnigDoes making it run at the extra 2ghz actually cause a noticeable difference?

2ghz = 2,000,000,000 hz

[quote=visitnig]Does making it run at the extra [b]2ghz[/b] actually cause a noticeable difference?[/quote]
2ghz = 2,000,000,000 hz
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enigmavisitnigDoes making it run at the extra 2ghz actually cause a noticeable difference?2ghz = 2,000,000,000 hz

I want that monitor

[quote=enigma][quote=visitnig]Does making it run at the extra [b]2ghz[/b] actually cause a noticeable difference?[/quote]
2ghz = 2,000,000,000 hz[/quote]
I want that monitor
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