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Watching Shade's Vlogs and the casts of Lan have gotten me all excited, and I have decided to host a lan at my house, albeit a slightly smaller one than ESEA. Have invited 10 people, a mixture of laptop and desktop users. I've done it before, and it went pretty well but there were things that needed improvements, and I have a few questions

-My router only has 4 lan slots. Last time the laptop users were pretty screwed by the internet, with massive packet loss between the 6 of them to one router. Is there a way to turn those 4 lan slots into more? Can I connect another router to the phone line?

-What are good games to play at lans? We'll be playing tf2, with some prophunt, saxton hale, maybe some bball or something, but we need some others. Preferably not internet-reliant (e.g. I can host the server myself) as internet speeds in New Zealand are pretty shitty and between 10 people it isnt great.

-Any other just general tips for fun lans?
Cheers lads!

Watching Shade's Vlogs and the casts of Lan have gotten me all excited, and I have decided to host a lan at my house, albeit a slightly smaller one than ESEA. Have invited 10 people, a mixture of laptop and desktop users. I've done it before, and it went pretty well but there were things that needed improvements, and I have a few questions

-My router only has 4 lan slots. Last time the laptop users were pretty screwed by the internet, with massive packet loss between the 6 of them to one router. Is there a way to turn those 4 lan slots into more? Can I connect another router to the phone line?

-What are good games to play at lans? We'll be playing tf2, with some prophunt, saxton hale, maybe some bball or something, but we need some others. Preferably not internet-reliant (e.g. I can host the server myself) as internet speeds in New Zealand are pretty shitty and between 10 people it isnt great.

-Any other just general tips for fun lans?
Cheers lads!
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You can get a gigabit Ethernet switch and connect it to one of the LAN ports on your router and expand your network. A decent 8 port gigabit switch is fairly inexpensive, usually $20-40 USD or so (probably more expensive in NZ). Note that one of the 8 ports on the switch and one of the 4 LAN ports on the router would be used, so that would leave 10 LAN ports for computers.

You can get a gigabit Ethernet switch and connect it to one of the LAN ports on your router and expand your network. A decent 8 port gigabit switch is fairly inexpensive, usually $20-40 USD or so (probably more expensive in NZ). Note that one of the 8 ports on the switch and one of the 4 LAN ports on the router would be used, so that would leave 10 LAN ports for computers.
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you can connect more routers to your router. they're more expensive than switches but also faster.

you can connect more routers to your router. they're more expensive than switches but also faster.
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Jstn7477You can get a gigabit Ethernet switch and connect it to one of the LAN ports on your router and expand your network. A decent 8 port gigabit switch is fairly inexpensive, usually $20-40 USD or so (probably more expensive in NZ). Note that one of the 8 ports on the switch and one of the 4 LAN ports on the router would be used, so that would leave 10 LAN ports for computers.

http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?e=283805

would that be a good switch?

alfunksoyou can connect more routers to your router. they're more expensive than switches but also faster.

How would you do that? As far as I can see routers are dsl in ethernet out. Mine only has one dsl in slot. I think I have a router lying around but I dont know how I would set that up.

[quote=Jstn7477]You can get a gigabit Ethernet switch and connect it to one of the LAN ports on your router and expand your network. A decent 8 port gigabit switch is fairly inexpensive, usually $20-40 USD or so (probably more expensive in NZ). Note that one of the 8 ports on the switch and one of the 4 LAN ports on the router would be used, so that would leave 10 LAN ports for computers.[/quote]

http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?e=283805

would that be a good switch?

[quote=alfunkso]you can connect more routers to your router. they're more expensive than switches but also faster.[/quote]

How would you do that? As far as I can see routers are dsl in ethernet out. Mine only has one dsl in slot. I think I have a router lying around but I dont know how I would set that up.
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HazSwagJstn7477You can get a gigabit Ethernet switch and connect it to one of the LAN ports on your router and expand your network. A decent 8 port gigabit switch is fairly inexpensive, usually $20-40 USD or so (probably more expensive in NZ). Note that one of the 8 ports on the switch and one of the 4 LAN ports on the router would be used, so that would leave 10 LAN ports for computers.
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?e=283805

would that be a good switch?
alfunksoyou can connect more routers to your router. they're more expensive than switches but also faster.
How would you do that? As far as I can see routers are dsl in ethernet out. Mine only has one dsl in slot. I think I have a router lying around but I dont know how I would set that up.

Ethernet between routers

[quote=HazSwag][quote=Jstn7477]You can get a gigabit Ethernet switch and connect it to one of the LAN ports on your router and expand your network. A decent 8 port gigabit switch is fairly inexpensive, usually $20-40 USD or so (probably more expensive in NZ). Note that one of the 8 ports on the switch and one of the 4 LAN ports on the router would be used, so that would leave 10 LAN ports for computers.[/quote]

http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?e=283805

would that be a good switch?

[quote=alfunkso]you can connect more routers to your router. they're more expensive than switches but also faster.[/quote]

How would you do that? As far as I can see routers are dsl in ethernet out. Mine only has one dsl in slot. I think I have a router lying around but I dont know how I would set that up.[/quote]
Ethernet between routers
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alfunksoyou can connect more routers to your router. they're more expensive than switches but also faster.

What?

Just buy a switch dude.

[quote=alfunkso]you can connect more routers to your router. they're more expensive than switches but also faster.[/quote]

What?

Just buy a switch dude.
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#7
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Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne mods galore

Run Kitty Run (and the hardmode Slide Ninja Slide), Uther Party, Tower Defense, DotA Allstars

Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne mods galore

Run Kitty Run (and the hardmode Slide Ninja Slide), Uther Party, Tower Defense, DotA Allstars
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HazSwaghttp://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?e=283805

would that be a good switch?

That appears to be a 10/100 megabit switch and not a 1000 megabit (aka gigabit) switch, but it'll work. A gigabit switch would be preferred especially if your router has gigabit LAN ports, simply for 10x more bandwidth if you are doing any inter-network file transfers, but for a small LAN party it should be okay.

[quote=HazSwag]
http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?e=283805

would that be a good switch?
[/quote]

That appears to be a 10/100 megabit switch and not a 1000 megabit (aka gigabit) switch, but it'll work. A gigabit switch would be preferred especially if your router has gigabit LAN ports, simply for 10x more bandwidth if you are doing any inter-network file transfers, but for a small LAN party it should be okay.
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TP Link are good cheap ones, go for it.

TP Link are good cheap ones, go for it.
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Warsow is really fun on LAN:
http://www.warsow.net/

Warsow is really fun on LAN:
http://www.warsow.net/
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zigzterWarsow is really fun on LAN:
http://www.warsow.net/

Too bad warsow has no community :[

[quote=zigzter]Warsow is really fun on LAN:
http://www.warsow.net/[/quote]
Too bad warsow has no community :[
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zigzterWarsow is really fun on LAN:
http://www.warsow.net/

http://prntscr.com/11mfq2

[quote=zigzter]Warsow is really fun on LAN:
http://www.warsow.net/[/quote]

http://prntscr.com/11mfq2
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get a linksys, cisco, or netgear switch, they all make good shit. figure out how many people will be attending and then buy one with as many ports as you'll need: http://www.newegg.com/Switches/SubCategory/ID-30

get a linksys, cisco, or netgear switch, they all make good shit. figure out how many people will be attending and then buy one with as many ports as you'll need: http://www.newegg.com/Switches/SubCategory/ID-30
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Langealfunksoyou can connect more routers to your router. they're more expensive than switches but also faster.
What?

Just buy a switch dude.

switches replicate every package they receive to every connected terminal, it's up to the terminal (the pc) to figure out what packages he should read and what packages he should discard, this adds up latency.

routers creates a network with every connected device and manages different local IPs for each one of them which allows them to redirect every package to the right terminal.

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/homenetworkhardware/f/routervsswitch.htm

I've also tried them both, bought a switch then bought a router and router turned out to be faster.

don't 1v1 me lange, we have the same major

[quote=Lange][quote=alfunkso]you can connect more routers to your router. they're more expensive than switches but also faster.[/quote]

What?

Just buy a switch dude.[/quote]

switches replicate every package they receive to every connected terminal, it's up to the terminal (the pc) to figure out what packages he should read and what packages he should discard, this adds up latency.

routers creates a network with every connected device and manages different local IPs for each one of them which allows them to redirect every package to the right terminal.

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/homenetworkhardware/f/routervsswitch.htm

I've also tried them both, bought a switch then bought a router and router turned out to be faster.

don't 1v1 me lange, we have the same major
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HazSwagalfunksoyou can connect more routers to your router. they're more expensive than switches but also faster.
How would you do that? As far as I can see routers are dsl in ethernet out. Mine only has one dsl in slot. I think I have a router lying around but I dont know how I would set that up.

you connect an ethernet cable between both routers and then setup the router without dsl connection to know that it can find the internets through the other router.

[quote=HazSwag][quote=alfunkso]you can connect more routers to your router. they're more expensive than switches but also faster.[/quote]

How would you do that? As far as I can see routers are dsl in ethernet out. Mine only has one dsl in slot. I think I have a router lying around but I dont know how I would set that up.[/quote]

you connect an ethernet cable between both routers and then setup the router without dsl connection to know that it can find the internets through the other router.
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alfunksoswitches replicate every package they receive to every connected terminal, it's up to the terminal (the pc) to figure out what packages he should read and what packages he should discard, this adds up latency.

This isn't true. An Ethernet hub is an OSI layer 1 device that broadcasts all signals received on a port to every other port excluding the port where the incoming signal originated. Since they operate at the physical layer, hubs cannot discern what a frame is. The entire hub is a single collision domain and every device must take turns transmitting or receiving signals.

An Ethernet switch is an OSI layer 2 device that is capable of analyzing frames because it operates in the data link layer. Therefore, it is able to analyze frames and forward them to the appropriate port. This is why switches don't have collision problems, because each individual port becomes its own collision domain.

A router is a layer 3 device with makes it superior to hubs and switches, but having more than a single router on your network is utterly pointless because it will manage every device on its LAN anyway.

"A switch is a telecommunication device that receives a message from any device connected to it and then transmits the message only to the device for which the message was meant. This makes the switch a more intelligent device than a hub (which receives a message and then transmits it to all the other devices on its network)."

[quote=alfunkso]switches replicate every package they receive to every connected terminal, it's up to the terminal (the pc) to figure out what packages he should read and what packages he should discard, this adds up latency.
[/quote]

This isn't true. An Ethernet [b]hub[/b] is an OSI layer 1 device that broadcasts all signals received on a port to every other port excluding the port where the incoming signal originated. Since they operate at the physical layer, hubs cannot discern what a frame is. The entire hub is a single collision domain and every device must take turns transmitting or receiving signals.

An Ethernet [b]switch[/b] is an OSI layer 2 device that is capable of analyzing frames because it operates in the data link layer. Therefore, it is able to analyze frames and forward them to the appropriate port. This is why switches don't have collision problems, because each individual port becomes its own collision domain.

A router is a layer 3 device with makes it superior to hubs and switches, but having more than a single router on your network is utterly pointless because it will manage every device on its LAN anyway.

"A switch is a telecommunication device that receives a message from any device connected to it and then transmits the message only to the device for which the message was meant. This makes the switch a more intelligent device than a hub (which receives a message and then transmits it to all the other devices on its network)."
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sulnzigzterWarsow is really fun on LAN:
http://www.warsow.net/

http://prntscr.com/11mfq2
HazSwag-What are good games to play at lans? HazSwaggood games to play at lans? HazSwagplay at lans? HazSwaglans
[quote=suln][quote=zigzter]Warsow is really fun on LAN:
http://www.warsow.net/[/quote]

http://prntscr.com/11mfq2[/quote]

[quote=HazSwag]-What are good games to play at lans? [/quote]
[quote=HazSwag]good games to play at lans? [/quote]
[quote=HazSwag]play at lans? [/quote]
[quote=HazSwag]lans[/quote]
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Tt eSPORTS
2 Frags +

Play this song nonstop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_cCsFU6pak

Play this song nonstop
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_cCsFU6pak[/youtube]
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RawrSpoonWarcraft III: The Frozen Throne mods galore

Run Kitty Run (and the hardmode Slide Ninja Slide), Uther Party, Tower Defense, DotA Allstars

pudge wars

[quote=RawrSpoon]Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne mods galore

Run Kitty Run (and the hardmode Slide Ninja Slide), Uther Party, Tower Defense, DotA Allstars[/quote]
pudge wars
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#20
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RawrSpoonWarcraft III: The Frozen Throne mods galore

Run Kitty Run (and the hardmode Slide Ninja Slide), Uther Party, Tower Defense, DotA Allstars

Oh man, Run Kitty Run on dial-up internet. Those were the days.

[quote=RawrSpoon]Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne mods galore

Run Kitty Run (and the hardmode Slide Ninja Slide), Uther Party, Tower Defense, DotA Allstars[/quote]

Oh man, Run Kitty Run on dial-up internet. Those were the days.
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shit there was this super fun warcraft mod where you played as wizards who fought on an island slinging spells at each other
i don't remember the name of this but it was SO fun

shit there was this super fun warcraft mod where you played as wizards who fought on an island slinging spells at each other
i don't remember the name of this but it was SO fun
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#22
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chill and buy a switch. not recommended for the laptops to use the wireless.

chill and buy a switch. not recommended for the laptops to use the wireless.
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