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Rocket jumping air strafing
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I am starting to get fairly decent at rocket jumping and jump maps in general. I am starting to play some of the higher advanced jump maps and had a question about keeping or maintaining speed while rocket jumping. In some of the more difficult jump maps there are jumps where you need to jump off a right wall and either go up and to a left wall or go back and forth between left and right walls. I’m having trouble keeping up or maintaining my speed in order to get through the jump. While playing around with key movements I did notice that if I jump off a wall and begin to airstrafe I noticed my speed is slowed down while holding the strafe key as opposed to tapping it as I’m rocket jumping and then letting go until I reach the next wall. Unfortunately when tapping the key you have much less control in the air. Now I was wondering is this a technique that is used by a lot of jumpers? I obviously haven’t built up the muscle memory yet since I have just started experimenting with this type of jumping. Also any tips on how to increase or improve my air control using this method would be appreciated. Thanks for the help!

I am starting to get fairly decent at rocket jumping and jump maps in general. I am starting to play some of the higher advanced jump maps and had a question about keeping or maintaining speed while rocket jumping. In some of the more difficult jump maps there are jumps where you need to jump off a right wall and either go up and to a left wall or go back and forth between left and right walls. I’m having trouble keeping up or maintaining my speed in order to get through the jump. While playing around with key movements I did notice that if I jump off a wall and begin to airstrafe I noticed my speed is slowed down while holding the strafe key as opposed to tapping it as I’m rocket jumping and then letting go until I reach the next wall. Unfortunately when tapping the key you have much less control in the air. Now I was wondering is this a technique that is used by a lot of jumpers? I obviously haven’t built up the muscle memory yet since I have just started experimenting with this type of jumping. Also any tips on how to increase or improve my air control using this method would be appreciated. Thanks for the help!
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#2
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do you have a clip or anything of what you're experiencing, preferably with skeys and speedo on? I'm pretty sure your problem would probably be more to do with where you're aiming your rockets, or possibly holding strafe keys too long into the "next wall" but it's hard to be 100% sure without seeing what you mean exactly.

do you have a clip or anything of what you're experiencing, preferably with skeys and speedo on? I'm pretty sure your problem would probably be more to do with where you're aiming your rockets, or possibly holding strafe keys too long into the "next wall" but it's hard to be 100% sure without seeing what you mean exactly.
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#3
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Most of the time people are either not going quick enough wall to wall and losing vertical velocity or not aiming their rocket high enough to compesate for the gain in vertical speed - I haven't heard anything before about letting go of the strafe keys to not lose speed other than just using one strafe key if you're staying on one wall. But yeah what chell said we'd need a video to comfirm if possible.

Most of the time people are either not going quick enough wall to wall and losing vertical velocity or not aiming their rocket high enough to compesate for the gain in vertical speed - I haven't heard anything before about letting go of the strafe keys to not lose speed other than just using one strafe key if you're staying on one wall. But yeah what chell said we'd need a video to comfirm if possible.
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#4
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Sounds like you're just strafing in the opposite way and cancelling your momentum
Afterglow has some old videos which I found helpful while starting out which show his keyboard presses live with the video, if you hold the strafe key while doing a wall shot you will definitely slow your momentum down cause you really only strafe when you want to move back towards the wall while facing forward (then you turn towards the wall and shoot). Not sure he has an example of alternating walls but understanding the mechanics for one wall you can apply it to two walls by switching between strafing right and strafing left at the right timings. When learning I found it was much easier to watch good jumpers and try to replicate their inputs, vs jumping entirely on my own and being led astray by a bunch of silly mistakes that I don't notice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJbXqDHLXQ4

Sounds like you're just strafing in the opposite way and cancelling your momentum
Afterglow has some old videos which I found helpful while starting out which show his keyboard presses live with the video, if you hold the strafe key while doing a wall shot you will definitely slow your momentum down cause you really only strafe when you want to move back towards the wall while facing forward (then you turn towards the wall and shoot). Not sure he has an example of alternating walls but understanding the mechanics for one wall you can apply it to two walls by switching between strafing right and strafing left at the right timings. When learning I found it was much easier to watch good jumpers and try to replicate their inputs, vs jumping entirely on my own and being led astray by a bunch of silly mistakes that I don't notice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJbXqDHLXQ4
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#5
8 Frags +
bearodactylSounds like you're just strafing in the opposite way and cancelling your momentum
Afterglow has some old videos which I found helpful while starting out which show his keyboard presses live with the video, if you hold the strafe key while doing a wall shot you will definitely slow your momentum down cause you really only strafe when you want to move back towards the wall while facing forward (then you turn towards the wall and shoot). Not sure he has an example of alternating walls but understanding the mechanics for one wall you can apply it to two walls by switching between strafing right and strafing left at the right timings. When learning I found it was much easier to watch good jumpers and try to replicate their inputs, vs jumping entirely on my own and being led astray by a bunch of silly mistakes that I don't notice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJbXqDHLXQ4

A more modern version (despite jump not changing) could be this firestabber video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qds1OoyfKuM

Jumps 3,8 and 12 (timestamped in the video) all sound related to what you're dealing with, and the video goes into a lot of detail to make sure you understand these jumps very well.

[quote=bearodactyl]Sounds like you're just strafing in the opposite way and cancelling your momentum
Afterglow has some old videos which I found helpful while starting out which show his keyboard presses live with the video, if you hold the strafe key while doing a wall shot you will definitely slow your momentum down cause you really only strafe when you want to move back towards the wall while facing forward (then you turn towards the wall and shoot). Not sure he has an example of alternating walls but understanding the mechanics for one wall you can apply it to two walls by switching between strafing right and strafing left at the right timings. When learning I found it was much easier to watch good jumpers and try to replicate their inputs, vs jumping entirely on my own and being led astray by a bunch of silly mistakes that I don't notice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJbXqDHLXQ4[/quote]

A more modern version (despite jump not changing) could be this firestabber video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qds1OoyfKuM

Jumps 3,8 and 12 (timestamped in the video) all sound related to what you're dealing with, and the video goes into a lot of detail to make sure you understand these jumps very well.
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#7
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when i rocket jumping    ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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when i rocket jumping    ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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             (つ ノ
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     \      ☆
             |     ☆
          (⌒ ⌒ヽ   /
    \  (´⌒  ⌒  ⌒ヾ   /
      (’⌒ ; ⌒   ::⌒  )
     (´     )     ::: ) /
  ☆─ (´⌒;:    ::⌒`) :;  )
     (⌒::   ::     ::⌒ )
    / (    ゝ  ヾ 丶  ソ ─
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#8
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions and videos. I went back to the jump in question it was jump 4 on apexv2 I believe. I did notice that I wasn’t aiming far enough behind but I’m stil having trouble getting enough momentum to clear the ending part to drop down into the hole. I was really stoned when I was playing the night before so maybe I was bugging about the holding strafe vs not and losing momentum. Also what bearodactyl said about holding strafe as I’m on the wall jumping was prlly also holding back my momentum. I will try these things out. Also the map with the alternating walls was cube jump C-1 I believe?

Also I have beat medium walls and medium pogo on jump academyv2 so while those do help I have gotten through them already.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and videos. I went back to the jump in question it was jump 4 on apexv2 I believe. I did notice that I wasn’t aiming far enough behind but I’m stil having trouble getting enough momentum to clear the ending part to drop down into the hole. I was really stoned when I was playing the night before so maybe I was bugging about the holding strafe vs not and losing momentum. Also what bearodactyl said about holding strafe as I’m on the wall jumping was prlly also holding back my momentum. I will try these things out. Also the map with the alternating walls was cube jump C-1 I believe?

Also I have beat medium walls and medium pogo on jump academyv2 so while those do help I have gotten through them already.
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