lamefxDellort, an editor, is upset about the release form of produced content. (not a surprise)
I'm not sure what you were reading but that definitely wasn't what I was arguing here.
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[quote=lamefx]
Dellort, an editor, is upset about the release form of produced content. (not a surprise)
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I'm not sure what you were reading but that definitely wasn't what I was arguing here.
Dellort, an editor, is upset about the release form of produced content. (not a surprise)
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I'm not sure what you were reading but that definitely wasn't what I was arguing here.
fosterwait guys i think you're missing the whole point here...
Who is "June"?
IM demo, autistic arguer, pedant.
I actually don't remember, but i thought june played demo
[quote=foster]wait guys i think you're missing the whole point here...
Who is "June"?[/quote]
[s]IM demo[/s], autistic arguer, pedant.
I actually don't remember, but i thought june played demo
Who is "June"?[/quote]
[s]IM demo[/s], autistic arguer, pedant.
I actually don't remember, but i thought june played demo
The way I see it, is we are all going to get to see it within the next 8 / 9 days anyway, and hopefully the guys who produced it will make a decent amount of money from this project which in turn inspires them to start future projects that help, promote, and entertain our community.
The project was clearly not money orientated from the start, just a later realisation that a small but reasonable compensation could be made for the effort put in. I hate the idea of people doing things for this community purely for financial self-gain, but this isn't one of those cases.
*Edit* Thanks Sal, it's late :P
The way I see it, is we are all going to get to see it within the next 8 / 9 days anyway, and hopefully the guys who produced it will make a decent amount of money from this project which in turn inspires them to start future projects that help, promote, and entertain our community.
The project was clearly not money orientated from the start, just a later realisation that a small but reasonable compensation could be made for the effort put in. I hate the idea of people doing things for this community purely for financial self-gain, but this isn't one of those cases.
*Edit* Thanks Sal, it's late :P
The project was clearly not money orientated from the start, just a later realisation that a small but reasonable compensation could be made for the effort put in. I hate the idea of people doing things for this community purely for financial self-gain, but this isn't one of those cases.
*Edit* Thanks Sal, it's late :P
DrPloxoIM demo, autistic arguer, pedant.
http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac256/sunteaflower/Spongebob/zoom.gif
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IM demo, autistic arguer, pedant.[/quote]
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IM demo, autistic arguer, pedant.[/quote]
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mustardoverlordI don't mind paying the $5, nor do I really agree with june/stalin/dellort that extv was very snakelike, but good lord are some people in this community bandwagoning man-children (woman-child in renhet's case). they're entitled to their opinion, stop acting like anyone who disagrees with your favorite people like sal/lange is automatically wrong.
Why can't I just have a viewpoint? Why does it have to be about a bandwagon or liking a popular personality? I don't believe in person worship, don't make the assumption that I do.
You're acting like it's childish to debate something that was thrust into the open. I'm not telling anybody not to have an opinion, but I do not agree with the negativity.
SalamancerRenhet's reason for disagreeing has more to do with her experience with shitty art customers, I think.
Sort of. It's just gross how entitled people are to things they had no hand in and are getting for free.
[quote=mustardoverlord]I don't mind paying the $5, nor do I really agree with june/stalin/dellort that extv was very snakelike, but good lord are some people in this community bandwagoning man-children (woman-child in renhet's case). they're entitled to their opinion, stop acting like anyone who disagrees with your favorite people like sal/lange is automatically wrong.[/quote]
Why can't I just have a viewpoint? Why does it have to be about a bandwagon or liking a popular personality? I don't believe in person worship, don't make the assumption that I do.
You're acting like it's childish to debate something that was thrust into the open. I'm not telling anybody not to have an opinion, but I do not agree with the negativity.
[quote=Salamancer]Renhet's reason for disagreeing has more to do with her experience with shitty art customers, I think.[/quote]
Sort of. It's just gross how entitled people are to things they had no hand in and are getting for free.
Why can't I just have a viewpoint? Why does it have to be about a bandwagon or liking a popular personality? I don't believe in person worship, don't make the assumption that I do.
You're acting like it's childish to debate something that was thrust into the open. I'm not telling anybody not to have an opinion, but I do not agree with the negativity.
[quote=Salamancer]Renhet's reason for disagreeing has more to do with her experience with shitty art customers, I think.[/quote]
Sort of. It's just gross how entitled people are to things they had no hand in and are getting for free.
lamefxIn the end everyone just has their own agenda. What is the point of all this?
does this surprise you? there is no point its an open forum, people are just posting what they want and not really seeing eye to eye on this subject and that's pretty much it
[quote=lamefx]In the end everyone just has their own agenda. What is the point of all this?[/quote]
does this surprise you? there is no point its an open forum, people are just posting what they want and not really seeing eye to eye on this subject and that's pretty much it
does this surprise you? there is no point its an open forum, people are just posting what they want and not really seeing eye to eye on this subject and that's pretty much it
um uh EXCUSE me MISTER INTERNET MAN i'm ENTITLED to an AGENDA FREE FORUM of OPEN INTELLECTUAL DISCUSION
um uh EXCUSE me MISTER INTERNET MAN i'm ENTITLED to an AGENDA FREE FORUM of OPEN INTELLECTUAL DISCUSION
DrPloxofosterwait guys i think you're missing the whole point here...IM demo, autistic arguer, pedant.
Who is "June"?
Do you ever actually have any idea what you're talking about when you say anything?
[quote=DrPloxo][quote=foster]wait guys i think you're missing the whole point here...
Who is "June"?[/quote]
IM demo, autistic arguer, pedant.[/quote]
Do you ever actually have any idea what you're talking about when you say anything?
Who is "June"?[/quote]
IM demo, autistic arguer, pedant.[/quote]
Do you ever actually have any idea what you're talking about when you say anything?
SalamancerSo far, it doesn't seem like a majority. It seems like one person with no vested interest in the subject (June) wandering into a thread just to sperg.
Careful doggie, you can't call down the wrath of tumblr.
I have no vested interest in the documentary because I don't particularly give a shit about a big tf2 expose when I've been here for way too fucking long already. To me the story is getting the team there to begin with, the lan itself was pretty much as expected. So for those who are perhaps more in love with the game nowadays than I, sure they might be hyped to see some cool interview with Ruwin. For someone like me though, I don't care about the coverage of the lan because I remember a time where yaug got +fragged for calling ruwin a whiny bitch for crying about using his server to play bball on. Outside of that, I have perhaps lost the idolatry of invite that most new players can't seem to get out of. I voiced my opinion because I thought it was a farce and I don't particularly give a shit what color anyone's name is around here so the inevitable onslaught of -frags for disagreeing with Sal wasn't very intimidating.
You can charge whatever you want for your work, I just think you're shitty for not being more transparent about it.
Also hanbrolo, you failed to come down on sal for using the term sperg so please turn in your national-day-of-silence tumblr-warrior badge.
[quote=Salamancer]So far, it doesn't seem like a majority. It seems like one person with no vested interest in the subject (June) wandering into a thread just to sperg.[/quote]
Careful doggie, you can't call down the wrath of tumblr.
I have no vested interest in the documentary because I don't particularly give a shit about a big tf2 expose when I've been here for way too fucking long already. To me the story is getting the team there to begin with, the lan itself was pretty much as expected. So for those who are perhaps more in love with the game nowadays than I, sure they might be hyped to see some cool interview with Ruwin. For someone like me though, I don't care about the coverage of the lan because I remember a time where yaug got +fragged for calling ruwin a whiny bitch for crying about using his server to play bball on. Outside of that, I have perhaps lost the idolatry of invite that most new players can't seem to get out of. I voiced my opinion because I thought it was a farce and I don't particularly give a shit what color anyone's name is around here so the inevitable onslaught of -frags for disagreeing with Sal wasn't very intimidating.
You can charge whatever you want for your work, I just think you're shitty for not being more transparent about it.
Also hanbrolo, you failed to come down on sal for using the term sperg so please turn in your national-day-of-silence tumblr-warrior badge.
Careful doggie, you can't call down the wrath of tumblr.
I have no vested interest in the documentary because I don't particularly give a shit about a big tf2 expose when I've been here for way too fucking long already. To me the story is getting the team there to begin with, the lan itself was pretty much as expected. So for those who are perhaps more in love with the game nowadays than I, sure they might be hyped to see some cool interview with Ruwin. For someone like me though, I don't care about the coverage of the lan because I remember a time where yaug got +fragged for calling ruwin a whiny bitch for crying about using his server to play bball on. Outside of that, I have perhaps lost the idolatry of invite that most new players can't seem to get out of. I voiced my opinion because I thought it was a farce and I don't particularly give a shit what color anyone's name is around here so the inevitable onslaught of -frags for disagreeing with Sal wasn't very intimidating.
You can charge whatever you want for your work, I just think you're shitty for not being more transparent about it.
Also hanbrolo, you failed to come down on sal for using the term sperg so please turn in your national-day-of-silence tumblr-warrior badge.
2sy_morphiendI voiced my opinion because I thought it was a farce and I don't particularly give a shit what color anyone's name is around here so the inevitable onslaught of -frags for disagreeing with Sal wasn't very intimidating.
you're so brave. if only all of us could be like you, then we could stand up to the evil extv and those scummy invite players.
[quote=2sy_morphiend]I voiced my opinion because I thought it was a farce and I don't particularly give a shit what color anyone's name is around here so the inevitable onslaught of -frags for disagreeing with Sal wasn't very intimidating. [/quote]
you're so brave. if only all of us could be like you, then we could stand up to the evil extv and those scummy invite players.
you're so brave. if only all of us could be like you, then we could stand up to the evil extv and those scummy invite players.
Gather round kids and let me tell you a story. One time I dissagreed with none other than B4nny, and, wait for it, I got plus fragged. You know what's even more amazing? He got Minus Fragged.
It has nothing to do with your disagreement. It has to do with because you're wrong.
Gather round kids and let me tell you a story. One time I dissagreed with none other than B4nny, and, wait for it, I got plus fragged. You know what's even more amazing? [i]He got Minus Fragged.[/i]
It has nothing to do with your disagreement. It has to do with because you're wrong.
It has nothing to do with your disagreement. It has to do with because you're wrong.
lamefx2sy_morphiendI voiced my opinion because I thought it was a farce and I don't particularly give a shit what color anyone's name is around here so the inevitable onslaught of -frags for disagreeing with Sal wasn't very intimidating.
you're so brave. if only all of us could be like you, then we could stand up to the evil extv and those scummy invite players.
Are you seriously accusing this community of not being filled with dick sucking?
I had someone add me to buy my signed BRAD ROSS OFFICIAL sticky launcher named "Flank_Dominator" so they could complete their assortment of BRAD ROSS OFFICIAL weaponry.
[quote=lamefx][quote=2sy_morphiend]I voiced my opinion because I thought it was a farce and I don't particularly give a shit what color anyone's name is around here so the inevitable onslaught of -frags for disagreeing with Sal wasn't very intimidating. [/quote]
you're so brave. if only all of us could be like you, then we could stand up to the evil extv and those scummy invite players.[/quote]
Are you seriously accusing this community of [b]not[/b] being filled with dick sucking?
I had someone add me to buy my signed BRAD ROSS OFFICIAL sticky launcher named "Flank_Dominator" so they could complete their assortment of BRAD ROSS OFFICIAL weaponry.
you're so brave. if only all of us could be like you, then we could stand up to the evil extv and those scummy invite players.[/quote]
Are you seriously accusing this community of [b]not[/b] being filled with dick sucking?
I had someone add me to buy my signed BRAD ROSS OFFICIAL sticky launcher named "Flank_Dominator" so they could complete their assortment of BRAD ROSS OFFICIAL weaponry.
Dick biting is just as bad as dick sucking (if not worse).
Dick biting is just as bad as dick sucking (if not worse).
I honestly don't understand what the big deal is. I feel this conversation has long outlasted it's welcome and should be brought out elsewhere.
I honestly don't understand what the big deal is. I feel this conversation has long outlasted it's welcome and should be brought out elsewhere.
2sy_morphiendlamefx2sy_morphiendI voiced my opinion because I thought it was a farce and I don't particularly give a shit what color anyone's name is around here so the inevitable onslaught of -frags for disagreeing with Sal wasn't very intimidating.
you're so brave. if only all of us could be like you, then we could stand up to the evil extv and those scummy invite players.
Are you seriously accusing this community of not being filled with dick sucking?
I had someone add me to buy my signed BRAD ROSS OFFICIAL sticky launcher named "Flank_Dominator" so they could complete their assortment of BRAD ROSS OFFICIAL weaponry.
What I'm saying is why does it bother you so much if it does happen. You said it yourself that you don't care much for this game and you don't really care what the community thinks so why do you care so much now? Why do you want to protect us from this "big farce" if you dont care?
which one is it?
[quote=2sy_morphiend][quote=lamefx][quote=2sy_morphiend]I voiced my opinion because I thought it was a farce and I don't particularly give a shit what color anyone's name is around here so the inevitable onslaught of -frags for disagreeing with Sal wasn't very intimidating. [/quote]
you're so brave. if only all of us could be like you, then we could stand up to the evil extv and those scummy invite players.[/quote]
Are you seriously accusing this community of [b]not[/b] being filled with dick sucking?
I had someone add me to buy my signed BRAD ROSS OFFICIAL sticky launcher named "Flank_Dominator" so they could complete their assortment of BRAD ROSS OFFICIAL weaponry.[/quote]
What I'm saying is why does it bother you so much if it does happen. You said it yourself that you don't care much for this game and you don't really care what the community thinks so why do you care so much now? Why do you want to protect us from this "big farce" if you dont care?
which one is it?
you're so brave. if only all of us could be like you, then we could stand up to the evil extv and those scummy invite players.[/quote]
Are you seriously accusing this community of [b]not[/b] being filled with dick sucking?
I had someone add me to buy my signed BRAD ROSS OFFICIAL sticky launcher named "Flank_Dominator" so they could complete their assortment of BRAD ROSS OFFICIAL weaponry.[/quote]
What I'm saying is why does it bother you so much if it does happen. You said it yourself that you don't care much for this game and you don't really care what the community thinks so why do you care so much now? Why do you want to protect us from this "big farce" if you dont care?
which one is it?
wareyaDick biting is just as bad as dick sucking (if not worse).
I'm not going out of my way to piss anybody off here, I think it's silly that the movie is exceptionally late, was certainly assumed by a large number of people to be free, was delayed until demos were broken, and was basically a larger hassle than anybody wanted it to be. I'm pointing out that suddenly having to pay for not YT quality and having your own file is kind of a joke all things considered. I made my opinion heard, and if people want to pile on the -frag brigade then more power to them.
The fact that you even refer to it as dick biting pretty much betrays your own bias.
FogI honestly don't understand what the big deal is. I feel this conversation has long outlasted it's welcome and should be brought out elsewhere.
It's not even a big deal for me, I just think it has been a comical mismanagement and that the zealotry so rampant in this community will make it exempt from all critique.
lamefxWhat I'm saying is why does it bother you so much if it does happen. You said it yourself that you don't care much for this game and you don't really care what the community thinks so why do you care so much now? Why do you want to protect us from this "big farce" if you dont care?
which one is it?
I'm not bothered by it that much, I made one post laughing at the hypocrisy and double-talked paywall and Sal wanted to get jumpy about someone voicing critique.
[quote=wareya]Dick biting is just as bad as dick sucking (if not worse).[/quote]
I'm not going out of my way to piss anybody off here, I think it's silly that the movie is exceptionally late, was certainly assumed by a large number of people to be free, was delayed until demos were broken, and was basically a larger hassle than anybody wanted it to be. I'm pointing out that suddenly having to pay for not YT quality and having your own file is kind of a joke all things considered. I made my opinion heard, and if people want to pile on the -frag brigade then more power to them.
The fact that you even refer to it as dick biting pretty much betrays your own bias.
[quote=Fog]I honestly don't understand what the big deal is. I feel this conversation has long outlasted it's welcome and should be brought out elsewhere.[/quote]
It's not even a big deal for me, I just think it has been a comical mismanagement and that the zealotry so rampant in this community will make it exempt from all critique.
[quote=lamefx]What I'm saying is why does it bother you so much if it does happen. You said it yourself that you don't care much for this game and you don't really care what the community thinks so why do you care so much now? Why do you want to protect us from this "big farce" if you dont care?
which one is it?[/quote]
I'm not bothered by it that much, I made one post laughing at the hypocrisy and double-talked paywall and Sal wanted to get jumpy about someone voicing critique.
I'm not going out of my way to piss anybody off here, I think it's silly that the movie is exceptionally late, was certainly assumed by a large number of people to be free, was delayed until demos were broken, and was basically a larger hassle than anybody wanted it to be. I'm pointing out that suddenly having to pay for not YT quality and having your own file is kind of a joke all things considered. I made my opinion heard, and if people want to pile on the -frag brigade then more power to them.
The fact that you even refer to it as dick biting pretty much betrays your own bias.
[quote=Fog]I honestly don't understand what the big deal is. I feel this conversation has long outlasted it's welcome and should be brought out elsewhere.[/quote]
It's not even a big deal for me, I just think it has been a comical mismanagement and that the zealotry so rampant in this community will make it exempt from all critique.
[quote=lamefx]What I'm saying is why does it bother you so much if it does happen. You said it yourself that you don't care much for this game and you don't really care what the community thinks so why do you care so much now? Why do you want to protect us from this "big farce" if you dont care?
which one is it?[/quote]
I'm not bothered by it that much, I made one post laughing at the hypocrisy and double-talked paywall and Sal wanted to get jumpy about someone voicing critique.
2sy_morphiendIt's not even a big deal for me
2sy_morphiendI'm not bothered by it that much,
You made like 10 posts in this thread. dont give us this farce about it not being a big deal or bothering you.
[quote=2sy_morphiend]It's not even a big deal for me[/quote]
[quote=2sy_morphiend]I'm not bothered by it that much, [/quote]
You made like 10 posts in this thread. dont give us this farce about it not being a big deal or bothering you.
[quote=2sy_morphiend]I'm not bothered by it that much, [/quote]
You made like 10 posts in this thread. dont give us this farce about it not being a big deal or bothering you.
People put hard work into something for the absolute benefit of other people and make sure that everyone gets to experience what they've created.
Someone gets upset /essentially/ that the people who've done all the hard work can't communicate "properly".
People disagree with the person.
The hypocritical anti-bandwagoning bandwagon shows up.
Someone accuses others of double-speaking while double-speaking themself in the exact same post.
The fact this occurred over so many pages is a bad thing.
People put hard work into something for the absolute benefit of other people and make sure that everyone gets to experience what they've created.
Someone gets upset /essentially/ that the people who've done all the hard work can't communicate "properly".
People disagree with the person.
The hypocritical anti-bandwagoning bandwagon shows up.
Someone accuses others of double-speaking while double-speaking themself in the exact same post.
The fact this occurred over so many pages is a bad thing.
Someone gets upset /essentially/ that the people who've done all the hard work can't communicate "properly".
People disagree with the person.
The hypocritical anti-bandwagoning bandwagon shows up.
Someone accuses others of double-speaking while double-speaking themself in the exact same post.
The fact this occurred over so many pages is a bad thing.
In principle the decision to add a fee at the last minute was a bad one. I don't like the way Sal responded to the criticism either. You can trivialize it as much as you want but this sort of "free but not free" can do a lot of damage in the long run (like fucking crit stickybomb damage). I think it would have been better to do it the way dellort suggested and make it a donation based. Probably make more money to. Anyways, looking forward to seeing it.
In principle the decision to add a fee at the last minute was a bad one. I don't like the way Sal responded to the criticism either. You can trivialize it as much as you want but this sort of "free but not free" can do a lot of damage in the long run (like fucking crit stickybomb damage). I think it would have been better to do it the way dellort suggested and make it a donation based. Probably make more money to. Anyways, looking forward to seeing it.
Attaching a fee last minute is lame.
Denying the community that allowed all the footage to even be shot (and the lan to happen) in the first place the highest quality is super lame.
Attaching a fee last minute is lame.
Denying the community that allowed all the footage to even be shot (and the lan to happen) in the first place the highest quality is super lame.
Denying the community that allowed all the footage to even be shot (and the lan to happen) in the first place the highest quality is super lame.
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