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TF2 clips. Solution to huge .avi files?
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So I recently got a new pc and want to mess around after effects and sony vegas and get some clips out.

But I'm stuck on the boring part...

So I want it the maximum quality possible and at 1080p so I rendered it with vdub at 480fps's and 1920x1080, but I got a 60Gb .avi file for like a 15 second clip, I can't afford having 10-15 of these 50gb+ files in order to make a single minute movie. Is there any way to export from vdub directly at a smaller size? or encoding it before importing it to vegas?

I tried easy h.264 to compress the file before importing and it was great I got a 15mb file instead of 15Gbs, but I lost a lot of quality in the process, is there any way to avoid this? Any other compressing program or codec I should know about?

I wouldn't ming being stuck with 1-2gbs video files for editing, thats cool, 50gb on the other hand is way too much for a single file.

So I recently got a new pc and want to mess around after effects and sony vegas and get some clips out.

But I'm stuck on the boring part...

So I want it the maximum quality possible and at 1080p so I rendered it with vdub at 480fps's and 1920x1080, but I got a 60Gb .avi file for like a 15 second clip, I can't afford having 10-15 of these 50gb+ files in order to make a single minute movie. Is there any way to export from vdub directly at a smaller size? or encoding it before importing it to vegas?

I tried easy h.264 to compress the file before importing and it was great I got a 15mb file instead of 15Gbs, but I lost a lot of quality in the process, is there any way to avoid this? Any other compressing program or codec I should know about?

I wouldn't ming being stuck with 1-2gbs video files for editing, thats cool, 50gb on the other hand is way too much for a single file.
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Install Lagarith Lossless Codec and when you're saving the tga's to .avi in VirtualDub go to Video > Compression, pick Lagarith and hit OK. The codec reduces the clip size by a lot with little to no quality loss

Install Lagarith Lossless Codec and when you're saving the tga's to .avi in VirtualDub go to Video > Compression, pick Lagarith and hit OK. The codec reduces the clip size by a lot with little to no quality loss
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What were the settings you used in easy h.246? I've used it for everything I've uploaded recently, and it shows no noticeable quality loss, even when I encode before and after editing. You honestly don't need to upload in 1080p, most people either can't watch videos on youtube with it because of net restraints, or will just watch in the default resolution. This was done with easy h.246. Just make sure you use the highest setting when encoding.

What were the settings you used in easy h.246? I've used it for everything I've uploaded recently, and it shows no noticeable quality loss, even when I encode before and after editing. You honestly don't need to upload in 1080p, most people either can't watch videos on youtube with it because of net restraints, or will just watch in the default resolution. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rlSDjBb0P4&feature=player_detailpage]This[/url] was done with easy h.246. Just make sure you use the highest setting when encoding.
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Lagarith and UT Video codec are both great.

The filesize will still be pretty big with those two, but still considerably smaller.

Lagarith and UT Video codec are both great.

The filesize will still be pretty big with those two, but still considerably smaller.
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The answer to your problems is: P N G S

Use srcdemo2, it makes better quality movies and png's are smaller file sizes.

The answer to your problems is: P N G S

Use srcdemo2, it makes better quality movies and png's are smaller file sizes.
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There's no way to compress to not lose any quality. It comes with the package. You don't lose that much quality at all when compressing with easy h264. That's all I use to compress my videos and they turn out great.

There's no way to compress to not lose any quality. It comes with the package. You don't lose that much quality at all when compressing with easy h264. That's all I use to compress my videos and they turn out great.
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MitsInstall Lagarith Lossless Codec and when you're saving the tga's to .avi in VirtualDub go to Video > Compression, pick Lagarith and hit OK. The codec reduces the clip size by a lot with little to no quality loss

Looks great, the file is went from 50gbs to 15gb's. It's still a bit huge and VLC won't even play it properly and is buffering all the time.

WaldoWhat were the settings you used in easy h.246? I've used it for everything I've uploaded recently, and it shows no noticeable quality loss, even when I encode before and after editing. You honestly don't need to upload in 1080p, most people either can't watch videos on youtube with it because of net restraints, or will just watch in the default resolution. This was done with easy h.246. Just make sure you use the highest setting when encoding.

I used the extreme settings, I really wanted to 1080p movies to take advantage of my screen and the highest quality possible.

zigzterLagarith and UT Video codec are both great.

The filesize will still be pretty big with those two, but still considerably smaller.

Will try UT codec thanks

kirbyThere's no way to compress to not lose any quality. It comes with the package. You don't lose that much quality at all when compressing with easy h264. That's all I use to compress my videos and they turn out great.

Yeah it doesn't loose too much quality on 720p, the problem is, I'm trying to render on 1080p and it does affect quality a bit and is fairly noticeable.

[quote=Mits]Install Lagarith Lossless Codec and when you're saving the tga's to .avi in VirtualDub go to Video > Compression, pick Lagarith and hit OK. The codec reduces the clip size by a lot with little to no quality loss[/quote]

Looks great, the file is went from 50gbs to 15gb's. It's still a bit huge and VLC won't even play it properly and is buffering all the time.

[quote=Waldo]What were the settings you used in easy h.246? I've used it for everything I've uploaded recently, and it shows no noticeable quality loss, even when I encode before and after editing. You honestly don't need to upload in 1080p, most people either can't watch videos on youtube with it because of net restraints, or will just watch in the default resolution. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rlSDjBb0P4&feature=player_detailpage]This[/url] was done with easy h.246. Just make sure you use the highest setting when encoding.[/quote]
I used the extreme settings, I really wanted to 1080p movies to take advantage of my screen and the highest quality possible.

[quote=zigzter]Lagarith and UT Video codec are both great.

The filesize will still be pretty big with those two, but still considerably smaller.[/quote]
Will try UT codec thanks

[quote=kirby]There's no way to compress to not lose any quality. It comes with the package. You don't lose that much quality at all when compressing with easy h264. That's all I use to compress my videos and they turn out great.[/quote]
Yeah it doesn't loose too much quality on 720p, the problem is, I'm trying to render on 1080p and it does affect quality a bit and is fairly noticeable.
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Ah, I wouldn't know about 1080p. I only render 720p. Sorry then :(

Ah, I wouldn't know about 1080p. I only render 720p. Sorry then :(
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Do you absolutely need an intermediate format*?

Doesn't your video editor support importing the image sequence? You could save time by skipping the step... You shouldn't need to move the images files on the disk if you're properly using recording tools like lawenarecordingtool and srcdemo2

Also, you shouldn't use lossy codecs (like h264/xvid) as an intermediate format because you'll end up with compression artifacts before the final encode. Look for encoders with "lossless" in the name.

If you absolutely have no space for lossless files...Look into 10bit encoders, totally might not be supported by VEGAS but you'll save tons of disk space.

*intermediate formats are not meant to be played, so VLC/MPC/WMP will have trouble decoding them smoothly.

Do you absolutely need an intermediate format*?

Doesn't your video editor support importing the image sequence? You could save time by skipping the step... You shouldn't need to move the images files on the disk if you're properly using recording tools like lawenarecordingtool and srcdemo2

Also, you shouldn't use lossy codecs (like h264/xvid) as an intermediate format because you'll end up with compression artifacts before the final encode. Look for encoders with "lossless" in the name.

If you absolutely have no space for lossless files...Look into 10bit encoders, totally might not be supported by VEGAS but you'll save tons of disk space.

*intermediate formats are not meant to be played, so VLC/MPC/WMP will have trouble decoding them smoothly.
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jp_Do you absolutely need an intermediate format?

Doesn't your video editor support importing the image sequence? You could save time by skipping the step... You shouldn't need to move the images files on the disk if you're properly using recording tools like lawenarecordingtool and srcdemo2

Also, you shouldn't use lossy codecs (like h264/xvid) as an intermediate format because you'll end up with compression artifacts before the final encode. Look for encoders with "lossless" in the name.

I guess I can import directly the image sequence into after effects, won't that be much more complicated to work around tho instead of a single file?

[quote=jp_]Do you absolutely need an intermediate format?

Doesn't your video editor support importing the image sequence? You could save time by skipping the step... You shouldn't need to move the images files on the disk if you're properly using recording tools like lawenarecordingtool and srcdemo2

Also, you shouldn't use lossy codecs (like h264/xvid) as an intermediate format because you'll end up with compression artifacts before the final encode. Look for encoders with "lossless" in the name.[/quote]

I guess I can import directly the image sequence into after effects, won't that be much more complicated to work around tho instead of a single file?
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crespiThe answer to your problems is: P N G S

Use srcdemo2, it makes better quality movies and png's are smaller file sizes.

tried srcdemo, for some reason didnt work for me, it didnt even open the program, maybe because of windows 8?

[quote=crespi]The answer to your problems is: P N G S

Use srcdemo2, it makes better quality movies and png's are smaller file sizes.[/quote]

tried srcdemo, for some reason didnt work for me, it didnt even open the program, maybe because of windows 8?
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KanecoI guess I can import directly the image sequence into after effects, won't that be much more complicated to work around tho instead of a single file?

Source -> After Effects -> ? -> Vegas -> Final Encode
Source -> After Effects -> Premier -> Final Encode

There shouldn't be a problem importing an image sequence. But you'll have to create an intermediate format to import to vegas.

Do you have Java and dokan library installed? Does Dokan even support win8? Maybe you can't use it, but I don't know a thing about Win8.

[quote=Kaneco]
I guess I can import directly the image sequence into after effects, won't that be much more complicated to work around tho instead of a single file?[/quote]
Source -> After Effects -> ? -> Vegas -> Final Encode
Source -> After Effects -> Premier -> Final Encode

There shouldn't be a problem importing an image sequence. But you'll have to create an intermediate format to import to vegas.


Do you have Java and dokan library installed? Does Dokan even support win8? Maybe you can't use it, but I don't know a thing about Win8.
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