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ESEA Open S31 Happenings/Discussion
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#511
-8 Frags +

dude valves racist....

dude valves racist....
512
#512
6 Frags +

GG to Sip, sorry for the 5v6. Still fun though : )

GG to Sip, sorry for the 5v6. Still fun though : )
513
#513
-2 Frags +

Ggs to team we played was fun.

Ggs to team we played was fun.
514
#514
14 Frags +

ESEA Open Power Rankings S31: Vol. 4 of 7, 6/3/19
Updates every Monday probably.

Now just past the midpoint of the season, I expected a larger shake-up in the rankings. Aside from one or two matches, most went about as expected. Still, there's plenty of room for chaos among the the #10-#20 teams fighting to hit the magic 11 win number and secure their playoff spot.
__________

#1 The Medic Academy (10-0)

Now the last undefeated team, The Medic Academy are on track to finish the regular season 16-0. Having already defeated The Perfect Sip, Late to Mid, and Goys R Us, there aren't many true threats remaining unless Cheep Cheep can pull off an upset this week.

#2 The Perfect Sip (9-1) [+1]

When they have all 6 starters playing, they seem to be the clear #2 team. They looked beatable against Soulja Boy eSports when they had to use a sub, but aside from that, they've performed as well as expected.

#3 Late To Mid (8-2) [+1]

The top three appears to have sorted itself out for the most part. Late To Mid put up a good fight against The Medic Academy and The Perfect Sip, but ended up losing to both. Nonetheless, they rebounded with a good win over Cheep Cheep, which makes it easy to place them among the top 5.

#4 Goys R Us (9-1) [+2]

In between all their trash talk in the middle of my match against them, one of them asked if I was going to move them up to #2. So far, no, but maybe soon if they can beat The Perfect Sip this week.

#5 Smol Approachable Brests (8-2)

I ranked them top 3 in my initial rankings, but a disappointing week 3 made me wonder why they weren't performing as well as expected. Since then, they appear to have gotten on the right track. Their scrim results seem to be going well and they've won all of their matches since then.

#6 Cheep Cheep (8-2) [-4]

I don't think they're taking the season too seriously since they show up to their matches with different rosters almost every time so estimating where they stand is kind of a crapshoot. At their best, they could be a few places higher, but on the otherhand, some of their lineups could be a place or two lower. They lost 1-4 to Rats on Acid, but to be fair, a lot of teams get upset on Product since it's a unique map. The rest of their week wasn't much better; they lost their next match to Late to Mid, although that result was less surprising. Regardless, no matter who they show up with, I think they're top 8 at worst.

#7 Soulja Boy eSports (6-3) [+3]

Their record sits at a modest 6-3, but behind the scenes, their scrim results show that they can beat almost any of the top teams on the right day. Their upcoming schedule is fairly light, so expect them to rise to 9-3 over the next week.

#8 Rats on Acid (9-1)

The rats started this weeks trip with a great upset over Cheep Cheep, winning on Product 4-1 with some help from Dom subbing in off the bench. Their next match against OK Kids was much less dominant, but nonetheless a victory with a final score of 3-2 in favor of the Rats. Perhaps sending Virgil back to medic and putting ZoomxZe on scout has been a worthwhile switch?

#9 Yarn Legacy (9-1) [+3]

Very quietly, Yarn Legacy has crept up the standings and is now on a 9 game win streak following a hard fought win
over Angry Dog Noises. If they want to extend that streak to 10, they'll need to play above and beyond their best
in their next match against Late to Mid.

#10 Good Damage 3 (8-2) [+1]

I was unsure about Good Damage v3 initially, but at this point, their season is already going much better than the last.
Now that they've decided to start scrimming more regularly, there's a good chance they'll rise even higher - assuming of course that they get the right pickups on soldier and medic.

#11 OK Kids (6-4) [-4]

The Kids are going through a rocky couple of weeks with 4 losses in a row. It's nothing to feel bad about though considering they only lost to good teams. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be much respite in the future as they have some fairly challenging matchups against Good Damage 3 and Crayon Eaters eSports coming up.

#12 Angry Dog Noises (6-4) [-3]

Their story is very much similar to OK Kids - a good start followed by a streak of hard fought losses against good teams. Not much else worth repeating.

#13 Hwasas Thighs (6-4)

Yep.

#14 Nav eSports (7-3) [Prev: HR]

The Nav guys haven't picked up a big win since their first match against Team Frantic, but they've overall performed steadily well enough and took rounds off good teams, so I feel they deserve a spot in the rankings.

#15 Crayon Eaters (6-4)

I blame these guys for making 25% of the open thread about eating crayons. Their last two matches were a forfeit and a 5v6 in matches they were already the underdogs in, so not much else to report.

#16 Holy Ghost Baptism (6-4) [-2]

The Creature Feature just barely slides into the last ranked spot which I determined primarily by guessing. As mentioned before, I don't see much difference between the last few spots and the honorable mentions. They're all in a tight race to make the final ESEA-Open playoffs.

Honorable Mention(s):

Free Mr. U (8-2)

Artists formerly known as The N-Word Free Zone have a great record so far, but most of those wins have come against mid-tier competition. Their strongest win yet was a narrow victory over Team Frantic. At 8-2 already, they're in a good spot, but a win in the upcoming game against Nav eSports is critical to staying in the race since the climb won't get any easier from here.

SkyZ Gaming (5-5) [Prev: #16] and
Team Frantic (5-5)

Both of these teams had a hot start, but are now going through a rough patch. They're both barely still in playoff contention with the right luck, but they're set to face off against each other soon. The winner will likely keep their playoff hopes alive, while the loser won't.

Big Guys Small Dogs (6-4) [Prev: NR]

The forfeit win kings had trouble out of the gate, but their recent roster shakeup with the addition of the fantastic mister Phoxx might put them in the playoff race if they can get the right flank scout pickup.

The CUM (6-4) [Prev: NR]

Their team name is awful and they had equally awful luck in their first half of the season. However, they have good players and they've taken care of business with their relatively easy schedule, so perhaps they could come from behind to take one of the last playoff spots.
__________

While things this week went mostly as expected, there are still another three weeks left for weird shit to happen. Watch out for The Medic Academy vs. Cheep Cheep on Tuesday, The Perfect Sip vs. Goys R Us on Wednesday, and Cheep Cheep vs. The Perfect Sip on Thursday.

[u][i][b]ESEA Open Power Rankings S31: Vol. 4 of 7, 6/3/19
[/b][/i][/u][i]Updates every Monday probably.[/i]

Now just past the midpoint of the season, I expected a larger shake-up in the rankings. Aside from one or two matches, most went about as expected. Still, there's plenty of room for chaos among the the #10-#20 teams fighting to hit the magic 11 win number and secure their playoff spot.
__________

[b]#1 The Medic Academy (10-0)
[/b]
Now the last undefeated team, The Medic Academy are on track to finish the regular season 16-0. Having already defeated The Perfect Sip, Late to Mid, and Goys R Us, there aren't many true threats remaining unless Cheep Cheep can pull off an upset this week.

[b]#2 The Perfect Sip (9-1) [+1]
[/b]
When they have all 6 starters playing, they seem to be the clear #2 team. They looked beatable against Soulja Boy eSports when they had to use a sub, but aside from that, they've performed as well as expected.

[b]#3 Late To Mid (8-2) [+1]
[/b]
The top three appears to have sorted itself out for the most part. Late To Mid put up a good fight against The Medic Academy and The Perfect Sip, but ended up losing to both. Nonetheless, they rebounded with a good win over Cheep Cheep, which makes it easy to place them among the top 5.

[b]#4 Goys R Us (9-1) [+2]
[/b]
In between all their trash talk in the middle of my match against them, one of them asked if I was going to move them up to #2. So far, no, but maybe soon if they can beat The Perfect Sip this week.

[b]#5 Smol Approachable Brests (8-2)
[/b]
I ranked them top 3 in my initial rankings, but a disappointing week 3 made me wonder why they weren't performing as well as expected. Since then, they appear to have gotten on the right track. Their scrim results seem to be going well and they've won all of their matches since then.

[b]#6 Cheep Cheep (8-2) [-4]
[/b]
I don't think they're taking the season too seriously since they show up to their matches with different rosters almost every time so estimating where they stand is kind of a crapshoot. At their best, they could be a few places higher, but on the otherhand, some of their lineups could be a place or two lower. They lost 1-4 to Rats on Acid, but to be fair, a lot of teams get upset on Product since it's a unique map. The rest of their week wasn't much better; they lost their next match to Late to Mid, although that result was less surprising. Regardless, no matter who they show up with, I think they're top 8 at worst.

[b]#7 Soulja Boy eSports (6-3) [+3]
[/b]
Their record sits at a modest 6-3, but behind the scenes, their scrim results show that they can beat almost any of the top teams on the right day. Their upcoming schedule is fairly light, so expect them to rise to 9-3 over the next week.

[b]#8 Rats on Acid (9-1)
[/b]
The rats started this weeks trip with a great upset over Cheep Cheep, winning on Product 4-1 with some help from Dom subbing in off the bench. Their next match against OK Kids was much less dominant, but nonetheless a victory with a final score of 3-2 in favor of the Rats. Perhaps sending Virgil back to medic and putting ZoomxZe on scout has been a worthwhile switch?

[b]#9 Yarn Legacy (9-1) [+3]
[/b]
Very quietly, Yarn Legacy has crept up the standings and is now on a 9 game win streak following a hard fought win
over Angry Dog Noises. If they want to extend that streak to 10, they'll need to play above and beyond their best
in their next match against Late to Mid.

[b]#10 Good Damage 3 (8-2) [+1]
[/b]
I was unsure about Good Damage v3 initially, but at this point, their season is already going much better than the last.
Now that they've decided to start scrimming more regularly, there's a good chance they'll rise even higher - assuming of course that they get the right pickups on soldier and medic.

[b]#11 OK Kids (6-4) [-4]
[/b]
The Kids are going through a rocky couple of weeks with 4 losses in a row. It's nothing to feel bad about though considering they only lost to good teams. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be much respite in the future as they have some fairly challenging matchups against Good Damage 3 and Crayon Eaters eSports coming up.

[b]#12 Angry Dog Noises (6-4) [-3]
[/b]
Their story is very much similar to OK Kids - a good start followed by a streak of hard fought losses against good teams. Not much else worth repeating.

[b]#13 Hwasas Thighs (6-4)
[/b]
Yep.

[b]#14 Nav eSports (7-3) [Prev: HR]
[/b]
The Nav guys haven't picked up a big win since their first match against Team Frantic, but they've overall performed steadily well enough and took rounds off good teams, so I feel they deserve a spot in the rankings.

[b]#15 Crayon Eaters (6-4)
[/b]
I blame these guys for making 25% of the open thread about eating crayons. Their last two matches were a forfeit and a 5v6 in matches they were already the underdogs in, so not much else to report.

[b]#16 Holy Ghost Baptism (6-4) [-2]
[/b]
The Creature Feature just barely slides into the last ranked spot which I determined primarily by guessing. As mentioned before, I don't see much difference between the last few spots and the honorable mentions. They're all in a tight race to make the final ESEA-Open playoffs.

[i][b]Honorable Mention(s):
[/b][/i]
[b]Free Mr. U (8-2)
[/b]
Artists formerly known as The N-Word Free Zone have a great record so far, but most of those wins have come against mid-tier competition. Their strongest win yet was a narrow victory over Team Frantic. At 8-2 already, they're in a good spot, but a win in the upcoming game against Nav eSports is critical to staying in the race since the climb won't get any easier from here.

[b]SkyZ Gaming (5-5) [Prev: #16][/b] and
[b]Team Frantic (5-5)[/b]

Both of these teams had a hot start, but are now going through a rough patch. They're both barely still in playoff contention with the right luck, but they're set to face off against each other soon. The winner will likely keep their playoff hopes alive, while the loser won't.

[b]Big Guys Small Dogs (6-4) [Prev: NR]
[/b]
The forfeit win kings had trouble out of the gate, but their recent roster shakeup with the addition of the fantastic mister Phoxx might put them in the playoff race if they can get the right flank scout pickup.

[b]The CUM (6-4) [Prev: NR]
[/b]
Their team name is awful and they had equally awful luck in their first half of the season. However, they have good players and they've taken care of business with their relatively easy schedule, so perhaps they could come from behind to take one of the last playoff spots.
__________

While things this week went mostly as expected, there are still another three weeks left for weird shit to happen. Watch out for The Medic Academy vs. Cheep Cheep on Tuesday, The Perfect Sip vs. Goys R Us on Wednesday, and Cheep Cheep vs. The Perfect Sip on Thursday.
515
#515
4 Frags +

I have a question for any and all crayon eaters. Are colored pencils basically the health food store version of your favorite snack?

I have a question for any and all crayon eaters. Are colored pencils basically the health food store version of your favorite snack?
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#516
6 Frags +
wbacon#13 Hwasas Thighs (6-4)

Yep.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/86f6e265fbfd1482c92826d9cadc150f/tumblr_mk15orTLOF1ri7mlyo1_500.gif

[quote=wbacon]
[b]#13 Hwasas Thighs (6-4)
[/b]
Yep.
[/quote]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/86f6e265fbfd1482c92826d9cadc150f/tumblr_mk15orTLOF1ri7mlyo1_500.gif[/img]
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#517
2 Frags +

wbacon im curious how you decide to rank teams, do u look at scrims or just matches or is it a mix

wbacon im curious how you decide to rank teams, do u look at scrims or just matches or is it a mix
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#518
14 Frags +
niaazwbacon im curious how you decide to rank teams, do u look at scrims or just matches or is it a mix

My main criteria in order of importance:

1. Match performance vs. quality teams: If you beat or play well against good teams, you're probably good. I also
take into account special circumstances like if a team had to play without their main roster.

2. Match performance as the favorite: If lower level teams make it a close game, that's a negative.

3. Scrim results: I don't look at the result so much since scrims aren't always a good indicator for matches,
but if you're scrimming good teams and not getting rolled, that's a positive.

4. Potential: As in, if you have good individual players but aren't winning yet. I mostly used this when there weren't many matches to go off of yet.

5. Intangible factors: e.g., a team that practices often with the same roster will probably be ranked higher than a casual no-scrim team if all other things are equal.

I use this as a guideline and ask if team X would likely lose to most the teams above it, and then
ask if it would likely win against most of the teams below it, and adjust accordingly until the list feels right.

[quote=niaaz]wbacon im curious how you decide to rank teams, do u look at scrims or just matches or is it a mix[/quote]

My main criteria in order of importance:

1. Match performance vs. quality teams: If you beat or play well against good teams, you're probably good. I also
take into account special circumstances like if a team had to play without their main roster.

2. Match performance as the favorite: If lower level teams make it a close game, that's a negative.

3. Scrim results: I don't look at the result so much since scrims aren't always a good indicator for matches,
but if you're scrimming good teams and not getting rolled, that's a positive.

4. Potential: As in, if you have good individual players but aren't winning yet. I mostly used this when there weren't many matches to go off of yet.

5. Intangible factors: e.g., a team that practices often with the same roster will probably be ranked higher than a casual no-scrim team if all other things are equal.

I use this as a guideline and ask if team X would likely lose to most the teams above it, and then
ask if it would likely win against most of the teams below it, and adjust accordingly until the list feels right.
519
#519
-12 Frags +

WATCH AIRSHOTINSANETOMYBRAIN'S MATCH RIGHT NOW!

WATCH AIRSHOTINSANETOMYBRAIN'S MATCH RIGHT NOW!
520
#520
7 Frags +
wbacon#6 Cheep Cheep (8-2) [-4]

I don't think they're taking the season too seriously since they show up to their matches with different rosters almost every time so estimating where they stand is kind of a crapshoot. At their best, they could be a few places higher, but on the otherhand, some of their lineups could be a place or two lower. They lost 1-4 to Rats on Acid, but to be fair, a lot of teams get upset on Product since it's a unique map. The rest of their week wasn't much better; they lost their next match to Late to Mid, although that result was less surprising. Regardless, no matter who they show up with, I think they're top 8 at worst.

We're taking it seriously, we've had 3 subs in our last couple matches bc people are traveling. Something closer to our main roster will be back soon :D

[quote=wbacon]
[b]#6 Cheep Cheep (8-2) [-4]
[/b]
I don't think they're taking the season too seriously since they show up to their matches with different rosters almost every time so estimating where they stand is kind of a crapshoot. At their best, they could be a few places higher, but on the otherhand, some of their lineups could be a place or two lower. They lost 1-4 to Rats on Acid, but to be fair, a lot of teams get upset on Product since it's a unique map. The rest of their week wasn't much better; they lost their next match to Late to Mid, although that result was less surprising. Regardless, no matter who they show up with, I think they're top 8 at worst.
[/quote]
We're taking it seriously, we've had 3 subs in our last couple matches bc people are traveling. Something closer to our main roster will be back soon :D
521
#521
9 Frags +

https://imgur.com/a/TU27neh

This is what happens when charter takes a week to fix my internet

https://imgur.com/a/TU27neh

This is what happens when charter takes a week to fix my internet
522
#522
newbie.tf
3 Frags +
wbacon#13 Hwasas Thighs (6-4)

Yep.

https://media.giphy.com/media/BFWDNv8fyMuSQ/giphy.gif

[quote=wbacon][b]#13 Hwasas Thighs (6-4)
[/b]
Yep.[/quote]

[img]https://media.giphy.com/media/BFWDNv8fyMuSQ/giphy.gif[/img]
523
#523
7 Frags +
Kikihttps://imgur.com/a/TU27neh

This is what happens when charter takes a week to fix my internet

I really thought XERSHA had more character than that. Sad. Eid Mubarak Xersha my brother, Allah wants you to do the right thing.

[quote=Kiki]https://imgur.com/a/TU27neh

This is what happens when charter takes a week to fix my internet[/quote]
I really thought XERSHA had more character than that. Sad. Eid Mubarak Xersha my brother, Allah wants you to do the right thing.
524
#524
-6 Frags +
LlanfairpwllgwyngyllKikihttps://imgur.com/a/TU27neh

This is what happens when charter takes a week to fix my internet
I really thought XERSHA had more character than that. Sad. Eid Mubarak Xersha my brother, Allah wants you to do the right thing.

i cut xersha before he even played a match

[quote=Llanfairpwllgwyngyll][quote=Kiki]https://imgur.com/a/TU27neh

This is what happens when charter takes a week to fix my internet[/quote]
I really thought XERSHA had more character than that. Sad. Eid Mubarak Xersha my brother, Allah wants you to do the right thing.[/quote]
i cut xersha before he even played a match
525
#525
13 Frags +
rongol

Accept my reschedule. You don't need FFWs to beat newbie mix teams.

[quote=rongol][/quote]
Accept my reschedule. You don't need FFWs to beat newbie mix teams.
526
#526
-31 Frags +
KikirongolAccept my reschedule. You don't need FFWs to beat newbie mix teams.

??? fuck off, i've got a busy schedule.

[quote=Kiki][quote=rongol][/quote]
Accept my reschedule. You don't need FFWs to beat newbie mix teams.[/quote]
??? fuck off, i've got a busy schedule.
527
#527
26 Frags +

last season of esea and people really be trying to grab ffws in an attempt to be 4-12

last season of esea and people really be trying to grab ffws in an attempt to be 4-12
528
#528
17 Frags +
rongol??? fuck off, i've got a busy schedule.

Two of us have work at 6 am that morning, but we're playing reschedule or not.

[quote=rongol]
??? fuck off, i've got a busy schedule.[/quote]
Two of us have work at 6 am that morning, but we're playing reschedule or not.
529
#529
-20 Frags +
Kikirongol??? fuck off, i've got a busy schedule.Two of us have work at 6 am that morning, but we're playing reschedule or not.

yeah and i'm working too? do you think that you're the only players with jobs? what the fuck? i have the option of either taking a ffw or giving one, and the decision is very clear to me. don't get upset.

[quote=Kiki][quote=rongol]
??? fuck off, i've got a busy schedule.[/quote]
Two of us have work at 6 am that morning, but we're playing reschedule or not.[/quote]
yeah and i'm working too? do you think that you're the only players with jobs? what the fuck? i have the option of either taking a ffw or giving one, and the decision is very clear to me. don't get upset.
530
#530
10 Frags +

how can you be so busy that you can't reschedule, yet commit to a season of tf2? something doesn't add up....

how can you be so busy that you can't reschedule, yet commit to a season of tf2? something doesn't add up....
531
#531
-11 Frags +
yaigahow can you be so busy that you can't reschedule, yet commit to a season of tf2? something doesn't add up....

sometimes people do things and those things prevent them from doing other things unexpectedly

[quote=yaiga]how can you be so busy that you can't reschedule, yet commit to a season of tf2? something doesn't add up....[/quote]
sometimes people do things and those things prevent them from doing other things unexpectedly
532
#532
5 Frags +

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/vVS1f4x3z5zZ_spnRV1LImXQ-jFw1z7Aqz2qBwcFSbk/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/D732JrgXUAAiBBx.jpg%3Alarge

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/vVS1f4x3z5zZ_spnRV1LImXQ-jFw1z7Aqz2qBwcFSbk/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/D732JrgXUAAiBBx.jpg%3Alarge
533
#533
7 Frags +

Everyone uses the excuse that they have something to do the next day, which is mostly proven to be a lie, and takes a cheap FFW. Reschedule the match xersha, play the game dude. Also why the fuck would you schedule something at 12:30am.

Everyone uses the excuse that they have something to do the next day, which is mostly proven to be a lie, and takes a cheap FFW. Reschedule the match xersha, play the game dude. Also why the fuck would you schedule something at 12:30am.
534
#534
-9 Frags +
YariEveryone uses the excuse that they have something to do the next day, which is mostly proven to be a lie, and takes a cheap FFW. Reschedule the match xersha, play the game dude. Also why the fuck would you schedule something at 12:30am.

it takes an hour for me to get back home from work and i finish at 11 est. also stop perpetuating this dumbass meme that i'm someone i'm not. i'm not going to continue this conversation any further.
https://i.imgur.com/DlMzDve.png

[quote=Yari]Everyone uses the excuse that they have something to do the next day, which is mostly proven to be a lie, and takes a cheap FFW. Reschedule the match xersha, play the game dude. Also why the fuck would you schedule something at 12:30am.[/quote]
it takes an hour for me to get back home from work and i finish at 11 est. also stop perpetuating this dumbass meme that i'm someone i'm not. i'm not going to continue this conversation any further.
https://i.imgur.com/DlMzDve.png
535
#535
-1 Frags +

i made a bet and now every match after this week needs to be product.

please help me fellow schedulers/leaders

i made a bet and now every match after this week needs to be product.

please help me fellow schedulers/leaders
536
#536
3 Frags +

gg Zam Theorem, I played like trash
https://i.imgur.com/MOWAAuh.png

gg Zam Theorem, I played like trash
https://i.imgur.com/MOWAAuh.png
537
#537
2 Frags +

thanks wickedbacon! Pedophilia down.

https://i.imgur.com/GaJ2B7n.png

thanks wickedbacon! Pedophilia down.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/GaJ2B7n.png[/img]
538
#538
5 Frags +

gg smol

gg smol
539
#539
9 Frags +

https://imgur.com/a/IkcqONb

https://imgur.com/a/IkcqONb
540
#540
9 Frags +

gg S.A.B. please change your name. Thanks.

gg S.A.B. please change your name. Thanks.
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