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Paladins of the Realm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2gBkqP4V9Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2gBkqP4V9Y
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Looks better than OW

Looks better than OW
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played this a while ago and i'm glad to see they continued their business model of stealing overwatch characters.

it was actually pretty fun until they raped it with shitty updates i don't know what state the game is in now tho.

the biggest difference is that gameplay isn't focused around funneling 12 people into a choke and if the game kept building off that it'd be really fun

played this a while ago and i'm glad to see they continued their business model of stealing overwatch characters.

it was actually pretty fun until they raped it with shitty updates i don't know what state the game is in now tho.

the biggest difference is that gameplay isn't focused around funneling 12 people into a choke and if the game kept building off that it'd be really fun
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Jesus fucking christ

They aren't even trying to be subtle

Jesus fucking christ

They aren't even trying to be subtle
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#5
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This game is so fun

add me my name is aiera

This game is so fun

add me my name is aiera
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paladins is pretty good, but personally i prefer duck game

paladins is pretty good, but personally i prefer duck game
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holy shit, it's like they copy pasted overwatch, changed the art style, and swapped the sexes of some heroes

holy shit, it's like they copy pasted overwatch, changed the art style, and swapped the sexes of some heroes
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#8
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i seriously like that engineer skin

i seriously like that engineer skin
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I said this in a /r/tf2 thread about Paladins, but since most people on tftv don't care about reddit, I'll say it here too.
Paladins' closed alpha came out before Overwatch's closed beta. At least 60% of the champions in Paladins existed in the closed alpha. Even though Overwatch had been in the works for a good while before its beta came out, so was Paladins in its alpha. In addition, it's almost impossible to come up with original content in a genre that has already been explored pretty well, since both games are basically the fusion of fps's (which are relatively hard to innovate except in new movement styles) and mobas (which there are plenty of; see LoL, DotA, Smite, Strife, Dawngate, et al). So to say that Paladins copied blatantly from Overwatch is like saying that LoL stole from DotA, when there's obviously some major differences in both gameplay and the characters.

TL;DR: They're both from the same genre (class-based FPS), so they're gonna share some similarities. That plus Paladins came out first.

I said this in a /r/tf2 thread about Paladins, but since most people on tftv don't care about reddit, I'll say it here too.
Paladins' closed alpha came out before Overwatch's closed beta. At least 60% of the champions in Paladins existed in the closed alpha. Even though Overwatch had been in the works for a good while before its beta came out, so was Paladins in its alpha. In addition, it's almost impossible to come up with original content in a genre that has already been explored pretty well, since both games are basically the fusion of fps's (which are relatively hard to innovate except in new movement styles) and mobas (which there are plenty of; see LoL, DotA, Smite, Strife, Dawngate, et al). So to say that Paladins copied blatantly from Overwatch is like saying that LoL stole from DotA, when there's obviously some major differences in both gameplay and the characters.

TL;DR: They're both from the same genre (class-based FPS), so they're gonna share some similarities. That plus Paladins came out first.
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I feel like it's sort of a Antz vs Bugs Life thing
Bugs Life was in works first, then the art director(I could be wrong?) left to dreamworks and started working on Antz with the same plot. Antz was released in films a monthish before Bugs Life in the end.

OW was in development much earlier than paladins I feel but paladins had first playable builds much before.

In the end OW battleborn and paladins all share basically the same archetype of characters and weapons and at this point I don't really care about who did it first or whatever because they are all done horribly and are uninteresting in their regards.

I feel like it's sort of a Antz vs Bugs Life thing
Bugs Life was in works first, then the art director(I could be wrong?) left to dreamworks and started working on Antz with the same plot. Antz was released in films a monthish before Bugs Life in the end.

OW was in development much earlier than paladins I feel but paladins had first playable builds much before.

In the end OW battleborn and paladins all share basically the same archetype of characters and weapons and at this point I don't really care about who did it first or whatever because they are all done horribly and are uninteresting in their regards.
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AnduLoL stole from DotA

LoL stole from DotA without question.

not the genre, sure. and the concept of abilities (at least if they're really generic) can't be copied.

but when heroes are 100% identical, not just in all of their abilities but in their personalities too, there's no excuse.

[quote=Andu]LoL stole from DotA[/quote]
LoL stole from DotA without question.

not the genre, sure. and the concept of abilities (at least if they're really generic) can't be copied.

but when heroes are 100% identical, not just in all of their abilities but in their personalities too, there's no excuse.
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fen_I feel like it's sort of a Antz vs Bugs Life thing
Bugs Life was in works first, then the art director(I could be wrong?) left to dreamworks and started working on Antz with the same plot. Antz was released in films a monthish before Bugs Life in the end.

OW was in development much earlier than paladins I feel but paladins had first playable builds much before.

In the end OW battleborn and paladins all share basically the same archetype of characters and weapons and at this point I don't really care about who did it first or whatever because they are all done horribly and are uninteresting in their regards.

Only problems with that is comparing Paladins' and Overwatch's closed betas the Paladins beta looked incredibly janky, empty, and unpolished and Overwatch's didn't. Overwatch's beta looked like an absolutely polished complete game (sparing balance changes) while Paladins actually earned that title of beta. I'm pretty convinced they spent way less time on Paladin's playable builds than Blizzard did with Overwatch.

[quote=fen_]I feel like it's sort of a Antz vs Bugs Life thing
Bugs Life was in works first, then the art director(I could be wrong?) left to dreamworks and started working on Antz with the same plot. Antz was released in films a monthish before Bugs Life in the end.

OW was in development much earlier than paladins I feel but paladins had first playable builds much before.

In the end OW battleborn and paladins all share basically the same archetype of characters and weapons and at this point I don't really care about who did it first or whatever because they are all done horribly and are uninteresting in their regards.[/quote]

Only problems with that is comparing Paladins' and Overwatch's closed betas the Paladins beta looked incredibly janky, empty, and unpolished and Overwatch's didn't. Overwatch's beta looked like an absolutely polished complete game (sparing balance changes) while Paladins actually earned that title of beta. I'm pretty convinced they spent way less time on Paladin's playable builds than Blizzard did with Overwatch.
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who cares lmao both look like shite games

who cares lmao both look like shite games
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fahrenheitOverwatch's beta looked like an absolutely polished complete game (sparing balance changes)

let's just agree to all forget that period in time during overwatch's beta where fov was locked

[quote=fahrenheit]Overwatch's beta looked like an absolutely polished complete game (sparing balance changes)[/quote]
let's just agree to all forget that period in time during overwatch's beta where fov was locked
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toads_tfwho cares lmao both look like shite games

thanks for coming in this thread just to say you dont care :d

[quote=toads_tf]who cares lmao both look like shite games[/quote]

thanks for coming in this thread just to say you dont care :d
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Hahaha this is so great. This game needs a comp scene.

Hahaha this is so great. This game needs a comp scene.
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#17
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ThoughtcrimeHahaha this is so great. This game needs a comp scene.

it had a 100k tourney rofl

http://www.esportsearnings.com/tournaments/19005-dreamhack-summer-2016-paladins-founders-tournament

fucking kill me tbh why can't tf2 get this shit

[quote=Thoughtcrime]Hahaha this is so great. This game needs a comp scene.[/quote]

it had a 100k tourney rofl

http://www.esportsearnings.com/tournaments/19005-dreamhack-summer-2016-paladins-founders-tournament

fucking kill me tbh why can't tf2 get this shit
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paladins is pretty fun you feel like a god when you snipe though, not sure if it just has really forgiving lag compensation or if tf2 just has me conditioned to blame myself every time I miss even though it's probably netcode

paladins is pretty fun you feel like a god when you snipe though, not sure if it just has really forgiving lag compensation or if tf2 just has me conditioned to blame myself every time I miss even though it's probably netcode
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yttriumAnduLoL stole from DotALoL stole from DotA without question

LoL was developed together with creators of original DotA. At the time it was released it was pretty much the only modern MOBA.

[quote=yttrium][quote=Andu]LoL stole from DotA[/quote]
LoL stole from DotA without question[/quote]
LoL was developed together with creators of original DotA. At the time it was released it was pretty much the only modern MOBA.
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shorasLoL was developed together with creators of original DotA. At the time it was released it was pretty much the only modern MOBA.

Learn some history.

The only real developer to move in with Riot for League was Steve Feak, better known as Guinsoo. There was another developer, Pendragon, but he didn't actually work on the game itself - he made the original forums, and helped foster the new League community. Guinsoo was not the original creator, either. He forked it from a guy named Eul, and lots of other people forked it too. Guinsoo took all of their ideas and pulled them into one blanket, calling it DotA Allstars. He threw feature after feature in and, for the most part, the balance was abysmal.

Then, after two years (and a few other developers sprinkled in there), the reigns of development were passed on to Icefrog, who did all the actual balance work, making the game what it is today over the course of half a decade.

Guinsoo went on to Riot and Icefrog went on to Valve. Neither was the original creator. One of them, however, has the notoriety for taking other people's ideas.

At the time it was released, it was the only modern MOBA, correct, although Dota followed shortly thereafter (and was known to be in deep development before League was released). HoN also followed between League and Dota, having also been in development during that time period. It's not like it was the only one being worked on - it was just the first to release.

[quote=shoras]LoL was developed together with creators of original DotA. At the time it was released it was pretty much the only modern MOBA.[/quote]
[url=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-16-the-story-of-dota-article]Learn some history.[/url]

The only real developer to move in with Riot for League was [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Feak]Steve Feak[/url], better known as Guinsoo. There was another developer, Pendragon, but he didn't actually work on the game itself - he made the original forums, and helped foster the new League community. Guinsoo was not the original creator, either. He forked it from a guy named Eul, and lots of other people forked it too. Guinsoo took all of their ideas and pulled them into one blanket, calling it DotA Allstars. He threw feature after feature in and, for the most part, the balance was abysmal.

Then, after two years (and a few other developers sprinkled in there), the reigns of development were passed on to Icefrog, who did all the actual balance work, making the game what it is today over the course of half a decade.

Guinsoo went on to Riot and Icefrog went on to Valve. Neither was the original creator. One of them, however, has the notoriety for taking other people's ideas.

At the time it was released, it was the only modern MOBA, correct, although Dota followed shortly thereafter (and was known to be in deep development before League was released). HoN also followed between League and Dota, having also been in development during that time period. It's not like it was the only one being worked on - it was just the first to release.
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is the join match button hitbox like super fucked up? lol

is the join match button hitbox like super fucked up? lol
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saamThoughtcrimeHahaha this is so great. This game needs a comp scene.
it had a 100k tourney rofl

http://www.esportsearnings.com/tournaments/19005-dreamhack-summer-2016-paladins-founders-tournament

fucking kill me tbh why can't tf2 get this shit

I honestly think at this point it's explicitly for marketing purposes

When flappy bird, angry bird, and clash of clans came out there were so many knockoffs because the games interested the casual player. Same for LOL/Dota, there were so many shitty mobas pumped out with like 1 or 2 gimmicks changed and still got tourneys(i.e. smite HOTS heroes of newerth etc). It feels like investors just want to exploit some other gimmick meshed with the most popular gametype at the moment, which right now is the blend of FPS and moba, and try to simply lure players into each of their games. OW has the best "gameplay ability" and skins, Paladins has cards, and I have no idea what the fuck battleborn's gimmick is.

I could be wrong but I really think this is just how the video game industry has changed for pc gaming.

[quote=saam][quote=Thoughtcrime]Hahaha this is so great. This game needs a comp scene.[/quote]

it had a 100k tourney rofl

http://www.esportsearnings.com/tournaments/19005-dreamhack-summer-2016-paladins-founders-tournament

fucking kill me tbh why can't tf2 get this shit[/quote]

I honestly think at this point it's explicitly for marketing purposes

When flappy bird, angry bird, and clash of clans came out there were so many knockoffs because the games interested the casual player. Same for LOL/Dota, there were so many shitty mobas pumped out with like 1 or 2 gimmicks changed and still got tourneys(i.e. smite HOTS heroes of newerth etc). It feels like investors just want to exploit some other gimmick meshed with the most popular gametype at the moment, which right now is the blend of FPS and moba, and try to simply lure players into each of their games. OW has the best "gameplay ability" and skins, Paladins has cards, and I have no idea what the fuck battleborn's gimmick is.

I could be wrong but I really think this is just how the video game industry has changed for pc gaming.
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Im calling it ow doing league of legends fan fic. Looks and feels like that. Not that bad to be honest but still eh. Great if you dont have $40+ for ow

Im calling it ow doing league of legends fan fic. Looks and feels like that. Not that bad to be honest but still eh. Great if you dont have $40+ for ow
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paladins was fun about 12 updates ago, but then hi-rez being hi-rez kept changing a good thing until it was a shell of its former self.

also idk if it still works but you can type /fov ### (### being the desired fov) in chat and get higher fov than the menus let you.

paladins was fun about 12 updates ago, but then hi-rez being hi-rez kept changing a good thing until it was a shell of its former self.

also idk if it still works but you can type /fov ### (### being the desired fov) in chat and get higher fov than the menus let you.
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#25
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played this with sideshow, he was pretty good so the game must be shit Kappa

played this with sideshow, he was pretty good so the game must be shit Kappa
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