I've been playing Team Fortress 2 for a year, i've always liked to play in pubs, but there's something that was, and still is, tedious for me, and that, is that i suck. A friend of mine recommended me to search for help in this website, and here i am. All i want is to don't suck at this game, i want, at least, to be decent at the game. Please, help me.
I really like if you give your help to me in the chat and in-game.
Need help with skills (Like aim, tatics, ect.)
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I've been playing Team Fortress 2 for a year, i've always liked to play in pubs, but there's something that was, and still is, tedious for me, and that, is that i suck. A friend of mine recommended me to search for help in this website, and here i am. All i want is to don't suck at this game, i want, at least, to be decent at the game. Please, help me.
I really like if you give your help to me in the chat and in-game.
I really like if you give your help to me in the chat and in-game.
Well, there are a few good sources. One is the MGE archives http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD098F81F2CA74F00
, a bunch of old videos that help a lot. Another source are the newbie mixes that are announced on the sidebar every friday!
Well, there are a few good sources. One is the MGE archives http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD098F81F2CA74F00
, a bunch of old videos that help a lot. Another source are the newbie mixes that are announced on the sidebar every friday!
, a bunch of old videos that help a lot. Another source are the newbie mixes that are announced on the sidebar every friday!
Well what class do you play, and is your DM good? I think it shouldn't be too hard to figure out a few specific flaws in your gameplay yourself (ie I can't hit my scattergun shots scout v scout, I can't always do a certain rocket jump, etc). If you can't say off the top of your head, try joining a DM or MGE server and figure out why you're dying.
Well what class do you play, and is your DM good? I think it shouldn't be too hard to figure out a few specific flaws in your gameplay yourself (ie I can't hit my scattergun shots scout v scout, I can't always do a certain rocket jump, etc). If you can't say off the top of your head, try joining a DM or MGE server and figure out why you're dying.
I mostly play Demoman, Medic, Pyro and Engineer, and when i play as Demoman i miss alot of pipe hits. When i was really depressed, i tried to play some MGE, to see if i get better, but i just give up at that time, so is like i never touched MGE.
I mostly play Demoman, Medic, Pyro and Engineer, and when i play as Demoman i miss alot of pipe hits. When i was really depressed, i tried to play some MGE, to see if i get better, but i just give up at that time, so is like i never touched MGE.
Well, something to do as demoman is do jump maps and do soapdm, which server is at the side.
Well, something to do as demoman is do jump maps and do soapdm, which server is at the side.
MGE definitely has that effect on people. What I would suggest is just picking a class that you like, i.e. demoman and just playing around in pubs until you feel confident in your aim, maybe try some pick up games at tf2lobby.com if you're interested in comp and really new. You should also make sure to check out the Newbie mixes (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix) if you want to learn more about competitive 6v6. As for just helping your DM, there are some servers that run a mod made by the glorious Lange called SOAPDM. If you have ever played FFA in Quake, it's kind of like that and helps your DM a lot without making you really frustrated (usually). Also, if you don't already, using an FPS config and a custom config in general really helped me. You can easily make one using TF2mate (http://clugu.com/tf2mate/) If you stick around here, then watching streams also helps a bit I think. On the top right of the page there's a list of hilarious streamers, a lot of them playing the highest level of TF2. People generally tend to be helpful in this community, so feel free to ask me or anyone else questions!
MGE definitely has that effect on people. What I would suggest is just picking a class that you like, i.e. demoman and just playing around in pubs until you feel confident in your aim, maybe try some pick up games at tf2lobby.com if you're interested in comp and really new. You should also make sure to check out the Newbie mixes (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix) if you want to learn more about competitive 6v6. As for just helping your DM, there are some servers that run a mod made by the glorious Lange called SOAPDM. If you have ever played FFA in Quake, it's kind of like that and helps your DM a lot without making you really frustrated (usually). Also, if you don't already, using an FPS config and a custom config in general really helped me. You can easily make one using TF2mate (http://clugu.com/tf2mate/) If you stick around here, then watching streams also helps a bit I think. On the top right of the page there's a list of hilarious streamers, a lot of them playing the highest level of TF2. People generally tend to be helpful in this community, so feel free to ask me or anyone else questions!
MGE can be frustating, try DM. Join the servers on the "Active Servers" sidebar, watch some streams, see how the pros do it, it helps at the begining to watch and understand what do the skilled players do.
MGE can be frustating, try DM. Join the servers on the "Active Servers" sidebar, watch some streams, see how the pros do it, it helps at the begining to watch and understand what do the skilled players do.
use stickies in mge, but since you're really a demo/medi player it'll be more beneficial if you play lots of lobbies/pugs.
use stickies in mge, but since you're really a demo/medi player it'll be more beneficial if you play lots of lobbies/pugs.
As a player who also sucks, I can tell you that you probably don't really need any of the things listed in the thread. They'll help, but they're more for competitive players working on their aim. What you need is to play.
Seriously, just playing the game is the biggest factor in how well you do. You'll develop gamesense and aim in a setting that fits your skill level by just putting in time on a pub. Once you've got the basics down, you'll be able to move up to more focused training in MGE or a Newbie Mix.
You should remember to play smart when you pub. Keep track of your kill/death, and if you die a lot, brainstorm what would be causing it. One tip which I suspect might be the issue: when you go into a fight, count the players involved from each team. You're probably dying to pairs or groups of players while the rest of your team backs off.
As a player who also sucks, I can tell you that you probably don't really need any of the things listed in the thread. They'll help, but they're more for competitive players working on their aim. What you need is to play.
Seriously, just playing the game is the biggest factor in how well you do. You'll develop gamesense and aim in a setting that fits your skill level by just putting in time on a pub. Once you've got the basics down, you'll be able to move up to more focused training in MGE or a Newbie Mix.
You should remember to play smart when you pub. Keep track of your kill/death, and if you die a lot, brainstorm what would be causing it. One tip which I suspect might be the issue: when you go into a fight, count the players involved from each team. You're probably dying to pairs or groups of players while the rest of your team backs off.
Seriously, just playing the game is the biggest factor in how well you do. You'll develop gamesense and aim in a setting that fits your skill level by just putting in time on a pub. Once you've got the basics down, you'll be able to move up to more focused training in MGE or a Newbie Mix.
You should remember to play smart when you pub. Keep track of your kill/death, and if you die a lot, brainstorm what would be causing it. One tip which I suspect might be the issue: when you go into a fight, count the players involved from each team. You're probably dying to pairs or groups of players while the rest of your team backs off.
For demo since you're missing pipes, I'd try the tr_walkway map and practice piping bots. You have to get good knowledge of how fast a player goes and how fast your pipes are to get hits. This will mainly help with people who aren't going to do any fancy movements, which are most people in pubs. I don't think you're actually looking for competitive play advice so you generally won't be fighting classes with extremely good movement, but if you are then you'd have to MGE/DM a lot. Also, stickies are you friend. Stickies are much more reliable in most situations, so make sure those are on top too.
For demo since you're missing pipes, I'd try the tr_walkway map and practice piping bots. You have to get good knowledge of how fast a player goes and how fast your pipes are to get hits. This will mainly help with people who aren't going to do any fancy movements, which are most people in pubs. I don't think you're actually looking for competitive play advice so you generally won't be fighting classes with extremely good movement, but if you are then you'd have to MGE/DM a lot. Also, stickies are you friend. Stickies are much more reliable in most situations, so make sure those are on top too.
BentomatAs a player who also sucks, I can tell you that you probably don't really need any of the things listed in the thread. They'll help, but they're more for competitive players working on their aim. What you need is to play.
3,000 hrs, I don't think it is purely an experience problem
[quote=Bentomat]As a player who also sucks, I can tell you that you probably don't really need any of the things listed in the thread. They'll help, but they're more for competitive players working on their aim. What you need is to play.
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3,000 hrs, I don't think it is purely an experience problem
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3,000 hrs, I don't think it is purely an experience problem
you could always record a demo by typing "record whatever" in console without the quotations, and watch it later with "demoui" to see what you're doing wrong
just try to improve when you can and fix what you're doing wrong until there's a point where you can't find any flaws whatsoever
every time you die, don't just think, "oh i'm dead"
without first thinking, "why did i die? could i have prevented that??"
if you keep fixing things about your gameplay one step at a time, you'll eventually improve as long as you keep those things in mind for the future. i know a lot of bad tf2 players who have been playing for years, and they just don't care about if they die or lose and don't actively try to think about their actions because they just figure they're going to respawn or the map is going to eventually change. if you're playing mge/dm, just keep goals in mind rather than only playing purely to win at mge, work on aspects of your game, work on something and keep focused!
you could always record a demo by typing "record whatever" in console without the quotations, and watch it later with "demoui" to see what you're doing wrong
just try to improve when you can and fix what you're doing wrong until there's a point where you can't find any flaws whatsoever
every time you die, don't just think, "oh i'm dead"
without first thinking, "why did i die? could i have prevented that??"
if you keep fixing things about your gameplay one step at a time, you'll eventually improve as long as you keep those things in mind for the future. i know a lot of bad tf2 players who have been playing for years, and they just don't care about if they die or lose and don't actively try to think about their actions because they just figure they're going to respawn or the map is going to eventually change. if you're playing mge/dm, just keep goals in mind rather than only playing purely to win at mge, work on aspects of your game, work on something and keep focused!
just try to improve when you can and fix what you're doing wrong until there's a point where you can't find any flaws whatsoever
every time you die, don't just think, "oh i'm dead"
without first thinking, "why did i die? could i have prevented that??"
if you keep fixing things about your gameplay one step at a time, you'll eventually improve as long as you keep those things in mind for the future. i know a lot of bad tf2 players who have been playing for years, and they just don't care about if they die or lose and don't actively try to think about their actions because they just figure they're going to respawn or the map is going to eventually change. if you're playing mge/dm, just keep goals in mind rather than only playing purely to win at mge, work on aspects of your game, work on something and keep focused!
Something I enjoy doing is watching casts. This helps you get the flow of the game and learn what is good and what is bad to do since most of the time the casters will comment about it.
I'm a pretty bad demo jumper so what I find more fun is to watch demo rollout videos (so I know what I should be doing) and just spend 10-20 minutes a day on each of the maps rollout out.
This sort of helps with sticky placement (muscle memory) and builds your confidence. DM servers are more fun for me as demo then MGE. Pubs/Pugs/Lobbies are all good for just understanding the game more and working on game sense.
Something I enjoy doing is watching casts. This helps you get the flow of the game and learn what is good and what is bad to do since most of the time the casters will comment about it.
I'm a pretty bad demo jumper so what I find more fun is to watch demo rollout videos (so I know what I should be doing) and just spend 10-20 minutes a day on each of the maps rollout out.
This sort of helps with sticky placement (muscle memory) and builds your confidence. DM servers are more fun for me as demo then MGE. Pubs/Pugs/Lobbies are all good for just understanding the game more and working on game sense.
I'm a pretty bad demo jumper so what I find more fun is to watch demo rollout videos (so I know what I should be doing) and just spend 10-20 minutes a day on each of the maps rollout out.
This sort of helps with sticky placement (muscle memory) and builds your confidence. DM servers are more fun for me as demo then MGE. Pubs/Pugs/Lobbies are all good for just understanding the game more and working on game sense.
He doesn't want to do competitive, I'm warning you guys.
He just wants to be better at general tf2, more like a pubstar, and I'm not really sure what to suggest for things like that besides working on aim.
4:17 PM - It's a Kyle Massey Christmas: do you want to like
4:17 PM - It's a Kyle Massey Christmas: look at sort of competitive
4:17 PM - It's a Kyle Massey Christmas: or
4:17 PM - It's a Kyle Massey Christmas: just not sucking
4:18 PM - Herman: Just not sucking.
4:18 PM - Herman: I want to be, mostly, a pub star.
He doesn't want to do competitive, I'm warning you guys.
He just wants to be better at general tf2, more like a pubstar, and I'm not really sure what to suggest for things like that besides working on aim.
[quote]4:17 PM - It's a Kyle Massey Christmas: do you want to like
4:17 PM - It's a Kyle Massey Christmas: look at sort of competitive
4:17 PM - It's a Kyle Massey Christmas: or
4:17 PM - It's a Kyle Massey Christmas: just not sucking
4:18 PM - Herman: Just not sucking.
4:18 PM - Herman: I want to be, mostly, a pub star.[/quote]
He just wants to be better at general tf2, more like a pubstar, and I'm not really sure what to suggest for things like that besides working on aim.
[quote]4:17 PM - It's a Kyle Massey Christmas: do you want to like
4:17 PM - It's a Kyle Massey Christmas: look at sort of competitive
4:17 PM - It's a Kyle Massey Christmas: or
4:17 PM - It's a Kyle Massey Christmas: just not sucking
4:18 PM - Herman: Just not sucking.
4:18 PM - Herman: I want to be, mostly, a pub star.[/quote]
ErenJayBentomatAs a player who also sucks, I can tell you that you probably don't really need any of the things listed in the thread. They'll help, but they're more for competitive players working on their aim. What you need is to play.3,000 hrs, I don't think it is purely an experience problem
That's absurd. Herman you can add me if you want. I'm genuinely interested in understanding how this can happen.
[quote=ErenJay][quote=Bentomat]As a player who also sucks, I can tell you that you probably don't really need any of the things listed in the thread. They'll help, but they're more for competitive players working on their aim. What you need is to play.
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3,000 hrs, I don't think it is purely an experience problem[/quote]
That's absurd. Herman you can add me if you want. I'm genuinely interested in understanding how this can happen.
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3,000 hrs, I don't think it is purely an experience problem[/quote]
That's absurd. Herman you can add me if you want. I'm genuinely interested in understanding how this can happen.
play pugs constantly, play some dm and mge but don't take them too serious unless you really want to challenge yourself against a better player or at least on the same skill level as you. practice rollouts by watching some vids and trying to imitate their movements. the gamesense is a playtime and teamwork experience thing. have fun, don't rage, it's just a game.
play pugs constantly, play some dm and mge but don't take them too serious unless you really want to challenge yourself against a better player or at least on the same skill level as you. practice rollouts by watching some vids and trying to imitate their movements. the gamesense is a playtime and teamwork experience thing. have fun, don't rage, it's just a game.
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in all seriousness playing scrims and matches against people better than you and trying you ass off while you do it provides by far the best return for your time as far as improvement
dm mge pugs all help some too
in all seriousness playing scrims and matches against people better than you and trying you ass off while you do it provides by far the best return for your time as far as improvement
dm mge pugs all help some too
dm mge pugs all help some too
make sure you're getting at least 60 fps, ideally you'd want over 120 fps and a 120 hertz monitor. it makes getting good easier.
make sure you're getting at least 60 fps, ideally you'd want over 120 fps and a 120 hertz monitor. it makes getting good easier.
Well, if you want to improve your DM, just play on some of the deathmatch servers (which you can find under the servers list on this website) It really helps improve aim.
Also, MGE is good if you're playing with a good friend of yours.
Well, if you want to improve your DM, just play on some of the deathmatch servers (which you can find under the servers list on this website) It really helps improve aim.
Also, MGE is good if you're playing with a good friend of yours.
Also, MGE is good if you're playing with a good friend of yours.
alfunksoMGE can be frustating, try DM.
I dunno. I can see DM being equally as frustrating, or even more frustrating for newer players.
[quote=alfunkso]MGE can be frustating, try DM.[/quote]
I dunno. I can see DM being equally as frustrating, or even more frustrating for newer players.
I dunno. I can see DM being equally as frustrating, or even more frustrating for newer players.
sounds like you just need to play pubs more. get better at the mechanics of playing a fast paced fps and all that.
sounds like you just need to play pubs more. get better at the mechanics of playing a fast paced fps and all that.
milehighmilitiasounds like you just need to play pubs more. get better at the mechanics of playing a fast paced fps and all that.
No.
Hermani've always liked to play in pubs
Suggesting he plays a lot of pubs.
[quote=milehighmilitia]sounds like you just need to play pubs more. get better at the mechanics of playing a fast paced fps and all that.[/quote]
No.
[quote=Herman][b]i've always liked to play in pubs[/b][/quote]
Suggesting he plays a lot of pubs.
No.
[quote=Herman][b]i've always liked to play in pubs[/b][/quote]
Suggesting he plays a lot of pubs.
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