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931
#931
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Nub_DanisheeeIsnt nub_danish like 17? Why is he calling someone a college freshman or w/e?im saying he just likes the idea of free college becuase he is a college student

so you dont like it because you cant get in?

[quote=Nub_Danish][quote=eee]Isnt nub_danish like 17? Why is he calling someone a college freshman or w/e?[/quote]
im saying he just likes the idea of free college becuase he is a college student[/quote]
so you dont like it because you cant get in?
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#932
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GentlemanJonNub_DanishI mean everything we observe with the study of economics points to the fact that a free market is the only system that works and gives the largest number of people the greatest amount of happiness and freedom.Your view of history is facile. The great depression wasn't just something that happened in John Steinbeck novels. If you think the rise of the Nazis had nothing to do with the results of free markets left alone to do their good work think again.

If you think markets are stable or related to social freedom, or produce any kind of natural justice, you are a fool. The larger and freer the market the greater the instability - markets aren't rational, they don't adjust logically, they aren't politically neutral, they do not contain truth. Everything we observe through the study of economics tells us that.

The rational actor that dominates applied economics is the product of a sick mind, literally, and in any truly scientific subject would have been discredited decades ago because it's a total failure experimentally. After we've shot all the politicians, the economists are next.

I got a little interesting video about deregulation of price control and letting the free market work it's way around massive inflation, namely what happened in West-Germany post WWII https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0D1RAY5NZ8

[quote=GentlemanJon][quote=Nub_Danish]I mean everything we observe with the study of economics points to the fact that a free market is the only system that works and gives the largest number of people the greatest amount of happiness and freedom.[/quote]
Your view of history is facile. The great depression wasn't just something that happened in John Steinbeck novels. If you think the rise of the Nazis had nothing to do with the results of free markets left alone to do their good work think again.

If you think markets are stable or related to social freedom, or produce any kind of natural justice, you are a fool. The larger and freer the market the greater the instability - markets aren't rational, they don't adjust logically, they aren't politically neutral, they do not contain truth. Everything we observe through the study of economics tells us that.

The rational actor that dominates applied economics is the product of a sick mind, literally, and in any truly scientific subject would have been discredited decades ago because it's a total failure experimentally. After we've shot all the politicians, the economists are next.[/quote]
I got a little interesting video about deregulation of price control and letting the free market work it's way around massive inflation, namely what happened in West-Germany post WWII https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0D1RAY5NZ8
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#933
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AvastNub_DanishAvastCalling current China communist might be one of the most inaccurate comparisons you could make to a theoretical communist state.I never called said it was currently communist I just listed off socialist and communist nations where you can clearly see the loss of freedom under communist or socialist rule.Nub_Danishwould you like to live in communist russia? china, venezula, north korea? nazi germany? to be a socialist or communist nation you directly give up your freedoms
Don't troll me conbud!!!!

you notice how Venezuela a socialist country is in there.
also im already in university elliiot so that doesnt really work

[quote=Avast][quote=Nub_Danish][quote=Avast]Calling current China communist might be one of the most inaccurate comparisons you could make to a theoretical communist state.[/quote]
I never called said it was currently communist I just listed off socialist and communist nations where you can clearly see the loss of freedom under communist or socialist rule.[/quote]

[quote=Nub_Danish]would you like to live in communist russia? china, venezula, north korea? nazi germany? to be a socialist or communist nation you directly give up your freedoms[/quote]

Don't troll me conbud!!!![/quote]
you notice how Venezuela a socialist country is in there.
also im already in university elliiot so that doesnt really work
934
#934
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the more time passes the more i think Metal Gear Solid is non-fiction.
Hideo Koijma knew this whole time and was trying to warn us!

the more time passes the more i think Metal Gear Solid is non-fiction.
Hideo Koijma knew this whole time and was trying to warn us!
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#935
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If youre already in uni why are you still so dumb?

If youre already in uni why are you still so dumb?
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#936
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downpourthe more time passes the more i think Metal Gear Solid is non-fiction.
Hideo Koijma knew this whole time and was trying to warn us!

http://i.imgur.com/Hrdvy4k.jpg

I nearly lost my fucking mind at this

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I USED TO PLAY FOOTBALL YA KNOW, COULDA GONE PRO
[quote=downpour]the more time passes the more i think Metal Gear Solid is non-fiction.
Hideo Koijma knew this whole time and was trying to warn us![/quote]

http://i.imgur.com/Hrdvy4k.jpg

I nearly lost my fucking mind at this
[spoiler]I USED TO PLAY FOOTBALL YA KNOW, COULDA GONE PRO[/spoiler]
937
#937
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eeeIf youre already in uni why are you still so dumb?

becuase my major is computer science and minor economics so my proffesors haven't really tried to indoctrinate me into believing your left wing beliefs.

[quote=eee]If youre already in uni why are you still so dumb?[/quote]
becuase my major is computer science and minor economics so my proffesors haven't really tried to indoctrinate me into believing your left wing beliefs.
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#938
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GentlemanJonThe rational actor that dominates applied economics is the product of a sick mind, literally, and in any truly scientific subject would have been discredited decades ago because it's a total failure experimentally. After we've shot all the politicians, the economists are next.

Go full Khmer Rouge and kill everyone with glasses, for looking too intellectual, build massive pyres of skulls so you got an exotic tourist attraction, and make such a mess that VIETNAM, after the bloodiest civil war they had with more ordinance dropped on them then in WWII had to go in Cambodja and do the humanitarian thing by removing the Khmer Rouge AND fight off China at the same time

Indoctrination is indoctrination whether it's left wing or right wing. you shouldnt be using that word unless you are speaking about the poor sods that got send to "re-education" camps or indoctrinated by fear like the threat of "dissapearing"

[quote=GentlemanJon]
The rational actor that dominates applied economics is the product of a sick mind, literally, and in any truly scientific subject would have been discredited decades ago because it's a total failure experimentally. After we've shot all the politicians, the economists are next.[/quote]
Go full Khmer Rouge and kill everyone with glasses, for looking too intellectual, build massive pyres of skulls so you got an exotic tourist attraction, and make such a mess that VIETNAM, after the bloodiest civil war they had with more ordinance dropped on them then in WWII had to go in Cambodja and do the humanitarian thing by removing the Khmer Rouge AND fight off China at the same time

Indoctrination is indoctrination whether it's left wing or right wing. you shouldnt be using that word unless you are speaking about the poor sods that got send to "re-education" camps or indoctrinated by fear like the threat of "dissapearing"
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#939
3 Frags +

US politics is fucking aids and so is this thread.

US politics is fucking aids and so is this thread.
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#940
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Nub_Danishbecuase my major is computer science and minor economics so my proffesors haven't really tried to indoctrinate me into believing your left wing beliefs.

if yr minor is economics why don't you know economics?

or better yet

why do you think you know economics?

[quote=Nub_Danish]
becuase my major is computer science and minor economics so my proffesors haven't really tried to indoctrinate me into believing your left wing beliefs.[/quote]
if yr minor is economics why don't you know economics?

or better yet

why do you think you know economics?
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#941
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can this thread die already

can this thread die already
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#942
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eeeIsnt nub_danish like 17? Why is he calling someone a college freshman or w/e?eeeso you dont like it because you cant get in?eeeIf youre already in uni why are you still so dumb?eeeif yr minor is economics why don't you know economics?

or better yet

why do you think you know economics?

that's enough man leave him alone

[quote=eee]Isnt nub_danish like 17? Why is he calling someone a college freshman or w/e?[/quote]
[quote=eee]so you dont like it because you cant get in?[/quote]
[quote=eee]If youre already in uni why are you still so dumb?[/quote]
[quote=eee]if yr minor is economics why don't you know economics?

or better yet

why do you think you know economics?[/quote]

that's enough man leave him alone
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#943
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sacGentlemanJonThe rational actor that dominates applied economics is the product of a sick mind, literally, and in any truly scientific subject would have been discredited decades ago because it's a total failure experimentally. After we've shot all the politicians, the economists are next.Go full Khmer Rouge and kill everyone with glasses, for looking too intellectual, build massive pyres of skulls so you got an exotic tourist attraction, and make such a mess that VIETNAM, after the bloodiest civil war they had with more ordinance dropped on them then in WWII had to go in Cambodja and do the humanitarian thing by removing the Khmer Rouge AND fight off China at the same time

Indoctrination is indoctrination whether it's left wing or right wing. you shouldnt be using that word unless you are speaking about the poor sods that got send to "re-education" camps or indoctrinated by fear like the threat of "dissapearing"

the point is its hard for my professors to force there beliefs on me considering the classes are just math while in a class like poli sci your professors beliefs are directly put on you

[quote=sac][quote=GentlemanJon]
The rational actor that dominates applied economics is the product of a sick mind, literally, and in any truly scientific subject would have been discredited decades ago because it's a total failure experimentally. After we've shot all the politicians, the economists are next.[/quote]
Go full Khmer Rouge and kill everyone with glasses, for looking too intellectual, build massive pyres of skulls so you got an exotic tourist attraction, and make such a mess that VIETNAM, after the bloodiest civil war they had with more ordinance dropped on them then in WWII had to go in Cambodja and do the humanitarian thing by removing the Khmer Rouge AND fight off China at the same time

Indoctrination is indoctrination whether it's left wing or right wing. you shouldnt be using that word unless you are speaking about the poor sods that got send to "re-education" camps or indoctrinated by fear like the threat of "dissapearing"[/quote]
the point is its hard for my professors to force there beliefs on me considering the classes are just math while in a class like poli sci your professors beliefs are directly put on you
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#944
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GentlemanJonNub_DanishI mean everything we observe with the study of economics points to the fact that a free market is the only system that works and gives the largest number of people the greatest amount of happiness and freedom.Your view of history is facile. The great depression wasn't just something that happened in John Steinbeck novels. If you think the rise of the Nazis had nothing to do with the results of free markets left alone to do their good work think again.

If you think markets are stable or related to social freedom, or produce any kind of natural justice, you are a fool. The larger and freer the market the greater the instability - markets aren't rational, they don't adjust logically, they aren't politically neutral, they do not contain truth. Everything we observe through the study of economics tells us that.

The rational actor that dominates applied economics is the product of a sick mind, literally, and in any truly scientific subject would have been discredited decades ago because it's a total failure experimentally. After we've shot all the politicians, the economists are next.

nazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally, it's just so complex and based off of so many different peoples decisions of what to buy and what to sell that it seems random and is impossible to measure, just because you cant understand it doesn't mean its random.

[quote=GentlemanJon][quote=Nub_Danish]I mean everything we observe with the study of economics points to the fact that a free market is the only system that works and gives the largest number of people the greatest amount of happiness and freedom.[/quote]
Your view of history is facile. The great depression wasn't just something that happened in John Steinbeck novels. If you think the rise of the Nazis had nothing to do with the results of free markets left alone to do their good work think again.

If you think markets are stable or related to social freedom, or produce any kind of natural justice, you are a fool. The larger and freer the market the greater the instability - markets aren't rational, they don't adjust logically, they aren't politically neutral, they do not contain truth. Everything we observe through the study of economics tells us that.

The rational actor that dominates applied economics is the product of a sick mind, literally, and in any truly scientific subject would have been discredited decades ago because it's a total failure experimentally. After we've shot all the politicians, the economists are next.[/quote]
nazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally, it's just so complex and based off of so many different peoples decisions of what to buy and what to sell that it seems random and is impossible to measure, just because you cant understand it doesn't mean its random.
945
#945
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this is like reading the facebook feed about the election

this is like reading the facebook feed about the election
946
#946
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Nub_Danishnazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally.

the scariest part of this thread is you've somehow managed to get accepted to a college without learning how to google things

[quote=Nub_Danish]
nazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally.[/quote]
the scariest part of this thread is you've somehow managed to get accepted to a college without learning how to google things
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#947
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"Nazis were the socialist party of Germany"

Yes and North Korea is a Democratic People's Republic

"Nazis were the socialist party of Germany"

Yes and North Korea is a Democratic People's Republic
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#948
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Nub_Danish just because you cant understand it doesn't mean its random.

he never said it was random, he said it was irrational

[quote=Nub_Danish] just because you cant understand it doesn't mean its random.[/quote]

he never said it was random, he said it was irrational
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#949
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I haven't read 90% of this thread but do people just not know about the electoral college? This election is Hilary's 100% and no amount of ignorant white people can get trump in office. Even the republican party hates trump.

I haven't read 90% of this thread but do people just not know about the electoral college? This election is Hilary's 100% and no amount of ignorant white people can get trump in office. Even the republican party hates trump.
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#950
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eeeNub_Danishnazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally.the scariest part of this thread is you've somehow managed to get accepted to a college without learning how to google things

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nazi+party

[quote=eee][quote=Nub_Danish]
nazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally.[/quote]
the scariest part of this thread is you've somehow managed to get accepted to a college without learning how to google things[/quote]
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nazi+party
951
#951
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weren't nazis only socialist up until hitler was like "benito is a real cool guy with real cool muscles, i like how he does money and stuff" then modeled nazis after the national fascist party in the early 1920s

weren't nazis only socialist up until hitler was like "benito is a real cool guy with real cool muscles, i like how he does money and stuff" then modeled nazis after the national fascist party in the early 1920s
952
#952
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Nub_DanisheeeNub_Danishnazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally.the scariest part of this thread is you've somehow managed to get accepted to a college without learning how to google thingshttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=nazi+party

Do you want to bother to use that yourself, because you'll quickly discover that National Socialism is not Socialism and that the Nazi party were very far right in their political and economic ideals.

[quote=Nub_Danish][quote=eee][quote=Nub_Danish]
nazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally.[/quote]
the scariest part of this thread is you've somehow managed to get accepted to a college without learning how to google things[/quote]
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nazi+party[/quote]

Do you want to bother to use that yourself, because you'll quickly discover that National Socialism is not Socialism and that the Nazi party were very far right in their political and economic ideals.
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#953
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NuzzyfutsNub_DanisheeeNub_Danishnazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally.the scariest part of this thread is you've somehow managed to get accepted to a college without learning how to google thingshttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=nazi+party
Do you want to bother to use that yourself, because you'll quickly discover that National Socialism is not Socialism and that the Nazi party were very far right in their political and economic ideals.

The original "Twenty-Five Point Programme" of the party, adopted in 1920, listed several economic demands (including "the abolition of all incomes unearned by work," "the ruthless confiscation of all war profits," "the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations," "profit-sharing in large enterprises," "extensive development of insurance for old-age," and "land reform suitable to our national requirements"),[13] but the degree to which the Nazis supported this programme in later years has been questioned. (the last part about the loss of support is unsubstantiated.)
So they did away with private business and your trying to tell me that it is a far right country. (the german business owner was in name the owner of the business still, but he didnt control what to produce, where to sell it, how much to sell it for etc.)

[quote=Nuzzyfuts][quote=Nub_Danish][quote=eee][quote=Nub_Danish]
nazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally.[/quote]
the scariest part of this thread is you've somehow managed to get accepted to a college without learning how to google things[/quote]
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nazi+party[/quote]

Do you want to bother to use that yourself, because you'll quickly discover that National Socialism is not Socialism and that the Nazi party were very far right in their political and economic ideals.[/quote]
The original "Twenty-Five Point Programme" of the party, adopted in 1920, listed several economic demands (including "the abolition of all incomes unearned by work," "the ruthless confiscation of all war profits," "the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations," "profit-sharing in large enterprises," "extensive development of insurance for old-age," and "land reform suitable to our national requirements"),[13] but the degree to which the Nazis supported this programme in later years has been questioned. (the last part about the loss of support is unsubstantiated.)
So they did away with private business and your trying to tell me that it is a far right country. (the german business owner was in name the owner of the business still, but he didnt control what to produce, where to sell it, how much to sell it for etc.)
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#954
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http://news.hamptonu.edu/release/Hampton-University's-CPP-Latest-Poll-Shows-VA-Voter-Shift-from-Clinton-to-Trump-Post-Email-Investigation

Hope ur all ready for 4 years of President Trump because he's up 3 points in Virginia according to a new poll from Hampton University. This is the first time this poll has shown Trump ahead of Clinton. Clinton absolutely has to win Colorado and Virginia to win the presidency and it's not looking likely anymore.

God I hate the U.S.

http://news.hamptonu.edu/release/Hampton-University's-CPP-Latest-Poll-Shows-VA-Voter-Shift-from-Clinton-to-Trump-Post-Email-Investigation

Hope ur all ready for 4 years of President Trump because he's up 3 points in Virginia according to a new poll from Hampton University. This is the first time this poll has shown Trump ahead of Clinton. Clinton absolutely has to win Colorado and Virginia to win the presidency and it's not looking likely anymore.

God I hate the U.S.
955
#955
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whymeohttp://news.hamptonu.edu/release/Hampton-University's-CPP-Latest-Poll-Shows-VA-Voter-Shift-from-Clinton-to-Trump-Post-Email-Investigation

Hope ur all ready for 4 years of President Trump because he's up 3 points in Virginia according to a new poll from Hampton University. This is the first time this poll has shown Trump ahead of Clinton. Clinton absolutely has to win Colorado and Virginia to win the presidency and it's not looking likely anymore.

God I hate the U.S.

stay un-shook my friend, its a single poll in a single state that isn't even necessary to win the election, nearly every national poll that has come out in the past 2-3 days has Hillary up by 4+

[quote=whymeo]http://news.hamptonu.edu/release/Hampton-University's-CPP-Latest-Poll-Shows-VA-Voter-Shift-from-Clinton-to-Trump-Post-Email-Investigation

Hope ur all ready for 4 years of President Trump because he's up 3 points in Virginia according to a new poll from Hampton University. This is the first time this poll has shown Trump ahead of Clinton. Clinton absolutely has to win Colorado and Virginia to win the presidency and it's not looking likely anymore.

God I hate the U.S.[/quote]

stay un-shook my friend, its a single poll in a single state that isn't even necessary to win the election, nearly every national poll that has come out in the past 2-3 days has Hillary up by 4+
956
#956
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Nub_DanishNuzzyfutsNub_DanisheeeNub_Danishnazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally.the scariest part of this thread is you've somehow managed to get accepted to a college without learning how to google thingshttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=nazi+party
Do you want to bother to use that yourself, because you'll quickly discover that National Socialism is not Socialism and that the Nazi party were very far right in their political and economic ideals.
The original "Twenty-Five Point Programme" of the party, adopted in 1920, listed several economic demands (including "the abolition of all incomes unearned by work," "the ruthless confiscation of all war profits," "the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations," "profit-sharing in large enterprises," "extensive development of insurance for old-age," and "land reform suitable to our national requirements"),[13] but the degree to which the Nazis supported this programme in later years has been questioned. (the last part about the loss of support is unsubstantiated.)
So they did away with private business and your trying to tell me that it is a far right country. (the german business owner was in name the owner of the business still, but he didnt control what to produce, where to sell it, how much to sell it for etc.)

http://i.imgur.com/gO3yA0a.png

I guess the Nazi party didn't have a defined economic policy since Hitler didn't really give a shit, he didn't think the economy was very important. It seemed like whenever Hitler would make a stance that could be attributed to non-marxist socialist ideas or fascist ideas he'd just later contradict it

so this whole argument BLOWS

[quote=Nub_Danish][quote=Nuzzyfuts][quote=Nub_Danish][quote=eee][quote=Nub_Danish]
nazis were the socialist party of Germany and markets are simply based on supply and demand so it does adjust rationally.[/quote]
the scariest part of this thread is you've somehow managed to get accepted to a college without learning how to google things[/quote]
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nazi+party[/quote]

Do you want to bother to use that yourself, because you'll quickly discover that National Socialism is not Socialism and that the Nazi party were very far right in their political and economic ideals.[/quote]
The original "Twenty-Five Point Programme" of the party, adopted in 1920, listed several economic demands (including "the abolition of all incomes unearned by work," "the ruthless confiscation of all war profits," "the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations," "profit-sharing in large enterprises," "extensive development of insurance for old-age," and "land reform suitable to our national requirements"),[13] but the degree to which the Nazis supported this programme in later years has been questioned. (the last part about the loss of support is unsubstantiated.)
So they did away with private business and your trying to tell me that it is a far right country. (the german business owner was in name the owner of the business still, but he didnt control what to produce, where to sell it, how much to sell it for etc.)[/quote]

http://i.imgur.com/gO3yA0a.png

I guess the Nazi party didn't have a defined economic policy since Hitler didn't really give a shit, he didn't think the economy was very important. It seemed like whenever Hitler would make a stance that could be attributed to non-marxist socialist ideas or fascist ideas he'd just later contradict it

so this whole argument BLOWS
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#957
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nitewhymeohttp://news.hamptonu.edu/release/Hampton-University's-CPP-Latest-Poll-Shows-VA-Voter-Shift-from-Clinton-to-Trump-Post-Email-Investigation

Hope ur all ready for 4 years of President Trump because he's up 3 points in Virginia according to a new poll from Hampton University. This is the first time this poll has shown Trump ahead of Clinton. Clinton absolutely has to win Colorado and Virginia to win the presidency and it's not looking likely anymore.

God I hate the U.S.

stay un-shook my friend, its a single poll in a single state that isn't even necessary to win the election, nearly every national poll that has come out in the past 2-3 days has Hillary up by 4+

She has much better chances in Virginia and Colorado, if she cant win those she won't win Florida, Ohio etc.
And most polls that have come out aren't showing the full effect of Comey's announcement because the polling took place either partially or fully before the announcement.

[quote=nite][quote=whymeo]http://news.hamptonu.edu/release/Hampton-University's-CPP-Latest-Poll-Shows-VA-Voter-Shift-from-Clinton-to-Trump-Post-Email-Investigation

Hope ur all ready for 4 years of President Trump because he's up 3 points in Virginia according to a new poll from Hampton University. This is the first time this poll has shown Trump ahead of Clinton. Clinton absolutely has to win Colorado and Virginia to win the presidency and it's not looking likely anymore.

God I hate the U.S.[/quote]

stay un-shook my friend, its a single poll in a single state that isn't even necessary to win the election, nearly every national poll that has come out in the past 2-3 days has Hillary up by 4+[/quote]

She has much better chances in Virginia and Colorado, if she cant win those she won't win Florida, Ohio etc.
And most polls that have come out aren't showing the full effect of Comey's announcement because the polling took place either partially or fully before the announcement.
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#958
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if you actually want hillary to become president you're insane.

if you actually want hillary to become president you're insane.
959
#959
5 Frags +

Hillary wont make the country worse, she will just maintain the status quo.
Donald will do... something that no one can predict, almost definitely wont leave things unchanged.

Depending on how much you know and believe, both can be worse than the other.

Hillary wont make the country worse, she will just maintain the status quo.
Donald will do... something that no one can predict, almost definitely wont leave things unchanged.

Depending on how much you know and believe, both can be worse than the other.
960
#960
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downpourHillary wont make the country worse, she will just maintain the status quo.
Donald will do... something that no one can predict, almost definitely wont leave things unchanged.

Depending on how much you know and believe, both can be worse than the other.

people dont like the current status quo my dude thats why people vote trump

[quote=downpour]Hillary wont make the country worse, she will just maintain the status quo.
Donald will do... something that no one can predict, almost definitely wont leave things unchanged.

Depending on how much you know and believe, both can be worse than the other.[/quote]
people dont like the current status quo my dude thats why people vote trump
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