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Why it’s time to say goodbye to TF2Center
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#241
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So 1k per year on infra, where did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go? I have an idea...

So 1k per year on infra, where did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go? I have an idea...
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#242
serveme.tf
3 Frags +
kKaltUuI have an idea...

Go on....

[quote=kKaltUu]I have an idea...[/quote] Go on....
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#243
3 Frags +
kKaltUuSo 1k per year on infra, where did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go? I have an idea...

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[quote=kKaltUu]So 1k per year on infra, where did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go? I have an idea...[/quote]
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#244
4 Frags +
ArieGo on....

Kkaltuu is masternoob's dealer, official

[quote=Arie]Go on....[/quote]
Kkaltuu is masternoob's dealer, official
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#245
-26 Frags +
kKaltUuwhere did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go?

Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?

[quote=kKaltUu]where did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go? [/quote]

Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?
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#246
18 Frags +
TF2C_MasterNoobkKaltUuwhere did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go?
Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?

Instead of being sarcastic you should keep your promise and show some transparency with the funds. It's been 7 months since you started collecting money. So far tf2center has seeded back 0 of that back to the community hence why most of your staff left.

Don't be the boogie man people paint you to be, your site has potential to be an asset to the competitive community and people have spent time and money on it to make sure it is. Be the better man and actually take steps to live up to your site's motto.

[quote=TF2C_MasterNoob][quote=kKaltUu]where did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go? [/quote]

Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?[/quote]

Instead of being sarcastic you should keep [url=http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/6069-a-personal-statement-from-masternoob/]your promise[/url] and show some transparency with the funds. It's been 7 months since you started collecting money. So far tf2center has seeded back 0 of that back to the community hence why most of your staff left.

Don't be the boogie man people paint you to be, your site has potential to be an asset to the competitive community and people have spent time and money on it to make sure it is. Be the better man and actually take steps to live up to your site's motto.
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#247
-23 Frags +
kKaltUuTF2C_MasterNoobkKaltUuwhere did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go?
Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?

Instead of being sarcastic you should keep your promise and show some transparency with the funds. It's been 7 months since you started collecting money. So far tf2center has seeded back 0 of that back to the community hence why most of your staff left.

Don't be the boogie man people paint you to be, your site has potential to be an asset to the competitive community and people have spent time and money on it to make sure it is. Be the better man and actually take steps to live up to your site's motto.

Stop telling people how much money TF2C has, since you have no clue; you never had. Also, stop lecturing me about why my staff left, don't project your personal reasons onto others.

[quote=kKaltUu][quote=TF2C_MasterNoob][quote=kKaltUu]where did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go? [/quote]

Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?[/quote]

Instead of being sarcastic you should keep [url=http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/6069-a-personal-statement-from-masternoob/]your promise[/url] and show some transparency with the funds. It's been 7 months since you started collecting money. So far tf2center has seeded back 0 of that back to the community hence why most of your staff left.

Don't be the boogie man people paint you to be, your site has potential to be an asset to the competitive community and people have spent time and money on it to make sure it is. Be the better man and actually take steps to live up to your site's motto.[/quote]

Stop telling people how much money TF2C has, since you have no clue; you never had. Also, stop lecturing me about why my staff left, don't project your personal reasons onto others.
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#248
14 Frags +
TF2C_MasterNoobkKaltUuTF2C_MasterNoobkKaltUuwhere did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go?
Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?

Instead of being sarcastic you should keep your promise and show some transparency with the funds. It's been 7 months since you started collecting money. So far tf2center has seeded back 0 of that back to the community hence why most of your staff left.

Don't be the boogie man people paint you to be, your site has potential to be an asset to the competitive community and people have spent time and money on it to make sure it is. Be the better man and actually take steps to live up to your site's motto.

Stop telling people how much money TF2C has, since you have no clue; you never had. Also, stop lecturing me about why my staff left, don't project your personal reasons onto others.

Then maybe you should be more transparent with were money is going, otherwise we will still have our doubts. kKaltUu can say whatever he wants.

[quote=TF2C_MasterNoob][quote=kKaltUu][quote=TF2C_MasterNoob][quote=kKaltUu]where did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go? [/quote]

Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?[/quote]

Instead of being sarcastic you should keep [url=http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/6069-a-personal-statement-from-masternoob/]your promise[/url] and show some transparency with the funds. It's been 7 months since you started collecting money. So far tf2center has seeded back 0 of that back to the community hence why most of your staff left.

Don't be the boogie man people paint you to be, your site has potential to be an asset to the competitive community and people have spent time and money on it to make sure it is. Be the better man and actually take steps to live up to your site's motto.[/quote]

Stop telling people how much money TF2C has, since you have no clue; you never had. Also, stop lecturing me about why my staff left, don't project your personal reasons onto others.[/quote]

Then maybe you should be more transparent with were money is going, otherwise we will still have our doubts. kKaltUu can say whatever he wants.
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#249
-16 Frags +
89zombiezTF2C_MasterNoobkKaltUuTF2C_MasterNoobkKaltUuwhere did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go?
Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?

Instead of being sarcastic you should keep your promise and show some transparency with the funds. It's been 7 months since you started collecting money. So far tf2center has seeded back 0 of that back to the community hence why most of your staff left.

Don't be the boogie man people paint you to be, your site has potential to be an asset to the competitive community and people have spent time and money on it to make sure it is. Be the better man and actually take steps to live up to your site's motto.

Stop telling people how much money TF2C has, since you have no clue; you never had. Also, stop lecturing me about why my staff left, don't project your personal reasons onto others.

Then maybe you should be more transparent with were money is going, otherwise we will still have our doubts. kKaltUu can say whatever he wants.

Funny that I actually mentioned that in my statement. Maybe we should stop calling random figures until then? Like I already told the DL team, we don't have 2k to spend on this.

[quote=89zombiez][quote=TF2C_MasterNoob][quote=kKaltUu][quote=TF2C_MasterNoob][quote=kKaltUu]where did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go? [/quote]

Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?[/quote]

Instead of being sarcastic you should keep [url=http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/6069-a-personal-statement-from-masternoob/]your promise[/url] and show some transparency with the funds. It's been 7 months since you started collecting money. So far tf2center has seeded back 0 of that back to the community hence why most of your staff left.

Don't be the boogie man people paint you to be, your site has potential to be an asset to the competitive community and people have spent time and money on it to make sure it is. Be the better man and actually take steps to live up to your site's motto.[/quote]

Stop telling people how much money TF2C has, since you have no clue; you never had. Also, stop lecturing me about why my staff left, don't project your personal reasons onto others.[/quote]

Then maybe you should be more transparent with were money is going, otherwise we will still have our doubts. kKaltUu can say whatever he wants.[/quote]

Funny that I actually mentioned that in my statement. Maybe we should stop calling random figures until then? Like I already told the DL team, we don't have 2k to spend on this.
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#250
11 Frags +
TF2C_MasterNoob89zombiezTF2C_MasterNoobkKaltUuTF2C_MasterNoobkKaltUuwhere did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go?
Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?

Instead of being sarcastic you should keep your promise and show some transparency with the funds. It's been 7 months since you started collecting money. So far tf2center has seeded back 0 of that back to the community hence why most of your staff left.

Don't be the boogie man people paint you to be, your site has potential to be an asset to the competitive community and people have spent time and money on it to make sure it is. Be the better man and actually take steps to live up to your site's motto.

Stop telling people how much money TF2C has, since you have no clue; you never had. Also, stop lecturing me about why my staff left, don't project your personal reasons onto others.

Then maybe you should be more transparent with were money is going, otherwise we will still have our doubts. kKaltUu can say whatever he wants.

Funny that I actually mentioned that in my statement. Maybe we should stop calling random figures until then? Like I already told the DL team, we don't have 2k to spend on this.

You're just digging yourself a deeper whole.

[quote=TF2C_MasterNoob][quote=89zombiez][quote=TF2C_MasterNoob][quote=kKaltUu][quote=TF2C_MasterNoob][quote=kKaltUu]where did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go? [/quote]

Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?[/quote]

Instead of being sarcastic you should keep [url=http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/6069-a-personal-statement-from-masternoob/]your promise[/url] and show some transparency with the funds. It's been 7 months since you started collecting money. So far tf2center has seeded back 0 of that back to the community hence why most of your staff left.

Don't be the boogie man people paint you to be, your site has potential to be an asset to the competitive community and people have spent time and money on it to make sure it is. Be the better man and actually take steps to live up to your site's motto.[/quote]

Stop telling people how much money TF2C has, since you have no clue; you never had. Also, stop lecturing me about why my staff left, don't project your personal reasons onto others.[/quote]

Then maybe you should be more transparent with were money is going, otherwise we will still have our doubts. kKaltUu can say whatever he wants.[/quote]

Funny that I actually mentioned that in my statement. Maybe we should stop calling random figures until then? Like I already told the DL team, we don't have 2k to spend on this.[/quote]

You're just digging yourself a deeper whole.
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#251
-13 Frags +
TuryYou're just digging yourself a deeper whole.

Given the amounts of negative frags, I realize that. I just wanted to make sure people would know that Kaltu's numbers are based on nothing, so you might want to adjust your expectations.

[quote=Tury]
You're just digging yourself a deeper whole.[/quote]

Given the amounts of negative frags, I realize that. I just wanted to make sure people would know that Kaltu's numbers are based on nothing, so you might want to adjust your expectations.
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#252
24 Frags +

Did you at least buy something cool with the donations? Like a mountain bike?

Did you at least buy something cool with the donations? Like a mountain bike?
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#253
14 Frags +
TF2C_MasterNoobkKaltUuTF2C_MasterNoobkKaltUuwhere did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go?
Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?

Instead of being sarcastic you should keep your promise and show some transparency with the funds. It's been 7 months since you started collecting money. So far tf2center has seeded back 0 of that back to the community hence why most of your staff left.

Don't be the boogie man people paint you to be, your site has potential to be an asset to the competitive community and people have spent time and money on it to make sure it is. Be the better man and actually take steps to live up to your site's motto.

Stop telling people how much money TF2C has, since you have no clue; you never had. Also, stop lecturing me about why my staff left, don't project your personal reasons onto others.

So why do you think your staff left? I'd love to hear the real reason.

[quote=TF2C_MasterNoob][quote=kKaltUu][quote=TF2C_MasterNoob][quote=kKaltUu]where did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go? [/quote]

Yeah, Kaltu is my bookie as well. When can I expect that money Kaltu?[/quote]

Instead of being sarcastic you should keep [url=http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/6069-a-personal-statement-from-masternoob/]your promise[/url] and show some transparency with the funds. It's been 7 months since you started collecting money. So far tf2center has seeded back 0 of that back to the community hence why most of your staff left.

Don't be the boogie man people paint you to be, your site has potential to be an asset to the competitive community and people have spent time and money on it to make sure it is. Be the better man and actually take steps to live up to your site's motto.[/quote]

Stop telling people how much money TF2C has, since you have no clue; you never had. Also, stop lecturing me about why my staff left, don't project your personal reasons onto others.[/quote]

So why do you think your staff left? I'd love to hear the [i]real[/i] reason.
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#254
3 Frags +
TF2C_MasterNoobTuryYou're just digging yourself a deeper whole.
Given the amounts of negative frags, I realize that. I just wanted to make sure people would know that Kaltu's numbers are based on nothing, so you might want to adjust your expectations.

Were you drunk while typing these replies or are you actually this out of touch and detached from reality that you feel like those series of replies actually somehow helped your case?

[quote=TF2C_MasterNoob][quote=Tury]
You're just digging yourself a deeper whole.[/quote]

Given the amounts of negative frags, I realize that. I just wanted to make sure people would know that Kaltu's numbers are based on nothing, so you might want to adjust your expectations.[/quote]
Were you drunk while typing these replies or are you actually this out of touch and detached from reality that you feel like those series of replies actually somehow helped your case?
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#255
9 Frags +

Why do you think you'll need MORE income from ads? You said more people will flock over, you are so naive to even think that you'll GAIN more people after what happened. The second an alternative comes, whether it be a new website made by the community, or Match-Making made by Valve, you bet your ass people will leave your website.

You are so power-hungry and greedy, it's pathetic.

Why do you think you'll need MORE income from ads? You said more people will flock over, you are so naive to even think that you'll GAIN more people after what happened. The second an alternative comes, whether it be a new website made by the community, or Match-Making made by Valve, you bet your ass people will leave your website.

You are so power-hungry and greedy, it's pathetic.
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#256
11 Frags +
xoWhy do you think you'll need MORE income from ads? You said more people will flock over, you are so naive to even think that you'll GAIN more people after what happened. The second an alternative comes, whether it be a new website made by the community, or Match-Making made by Valve, you bet your ass people will leave your website.

You are so power-hungry and greedy, it's pathetic.

I wouldn't even call it greed, it's more like delusion

[quote=xo]Why do you think you'll need MORE income from ads? You said more people will flock over, you are so naive to even think that you'll GAIN more people after what happened. The second an alternative comes, whether it be a new website made by the community, or Match-Making made by Valve, you bet your ass people will leave your website.

You are so power-hungry and greedy, it's pathetic.[/quote]
I wouldn't even call it greed, it's more like delusion
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#257
21 Frags +

I'm not even good enough for tf2pug.me
where to go???

this is a srs question.

I'm not even good enough for tf2pug.me
where to go???

this is a srs question.
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#258
-19 Frags +

I really hope this nerd drama piddles out soon since center hasn't changed at all, there is no reason to donate money to a black hole website and expect a return on investment. I never made a website that issues promises and collects money but I feel like it wouldn't be very trustworthy. Its like kickstarter, your money just disappears and you get to stare at the screen and watch others get successful. If there is to be donations, make sure you know where they go and who is the treasurer so there is something called "accountability." I am looking forward to Tip of the Hats because there is established transparency and a great team of activists working closely on it, not some shady coder from the 6s scene.

I really hope this nerd drama piddles out soon since center hasn't changed at all, there is no reason to donate money to a black hole website and expect a return on investment. I never made a website that issues promises and collects money but I feel like it wouldn't be very trustworthy. Its like kickstarter, your money just disappears and you get to stare at the screen and watch others get successful. If there is to be donations, make sure you know where they go and who is the treasurer so there is something called "accountability." I am looking forward to Tip of the Hats because there is established transparency and a great team of activists working closely on it, not some shady coder from the 6s scene.
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#259
23 Frags +
Sherm-Stick[...]some shady coder from the 6s scene.

What does that have to do with anything? Everyone working on ToTH is "from the 6s scene", but apparently that doesn't make them unreliable in your eyes. What a weird, weird sentence. Are you sixist?

[quote=Sherm-Stick][...]some shady coder [b]from the 6s scene[/b].[/quote]
What does that have to do with anything? Everyone working on ToTH is "from the 6s scene", but apparently that doesn't make them unreliable in your eyes. What a weird, weird sentence. Are you sixist?
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#260
14 Frags +

i'm fairly certain that every person working on ToTH is a sixes player

why do you have a slight towards 6s in your otherwise decent post?

i'm fairly certain that every person working on ToTH is a sixes player


why do you have a slight towards 6s in your otherwise decent post?
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#261
serveme.tf
14 Frags +
Sherm-Stick... not some shady coder from the 6s scene.

Are you referring to MasterNoob as a 6s player?

[quote=Sherm-Stick]... not some shady coder from the 6s scene.[/quote]

Are you referring to MasterNoob as a 6s player?
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#262
-21 Frags +

I just make lousy assumptions but he probably started comp in 6s and was working on coding center during that time. Trying to stay true to the time table as 2 when center was started but I didn't mean to get Super Critical of his comp experience, just how he came from nowhere and some people decided to donate money based on things that he typed into his computer

I just make lousy assumptions but he probably started comp in 6s and was working on coding center during that time. Trying to stay true to the time table as 2 when center was started but I didn't mean to get Super Critical of his comp experience, just how he came from nowhere and some people decided to donate money based on things that he typed into his computer
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#263
16 Frags +

http://puu.sh/j0rLP/181caf3be6.jpg

Apparently the best time to implement advertising is during the biggest controversy the site has faced...

also these ads are ass and disabling them still leaves big gray bars on the side

[img]http://puu.sh/j0rLP/181caf3be6.jpg[/img]

Apparently the best time to implement advertising is during the biggest controversy the site has faced...

also these ads are ass and disabling them still leaves big gray bars on the side
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#264
7 Frags +
saamApparently the best time to implement advertising is during the biggest controversy the site has faced...

TF2center would be a great case study in some PR degree.

[quote=saam]
Apparently the best time to implement advertising is during the biggest controversy the site has faced...[/quote]

TF2center would be a great case study in some PR degree.
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#265
3 Frags +
saamhttp://puu.sh/j0rLP/181caf3be6.jpg

Apparently the best time to implement advertising is during the biggest controversy the site has faced...

also these ads are ass and disabling them still leaves big gray bars on the side

use the eyedropper on those big gray bars.

http://puu.sh/j0sy8/53025c5b49.png

[quote=saam][img]http://puu.sh/j0rLP/181caf3be6.jpg[/img]

Apparently the best time to implement advertising is during the biggest controversy the site has faced...

also these ads are ass and disabling them still leaves big gray bars on the side[/quote]

use the eyedropper on those big gray bars.

[img]http://puu.sh/j0sy8/53025c5b49.png
[/img]
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#266
7 Frags +
saamalso these ads are ass and disabling them still leaves big gray bars on the side

https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/10997-pretty-ad-remover-for-tf2c

[quote=saam]
also these ads are ass and disabling them still leaves big gray bars on the side[/quote]

https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/10997-pretty-ad-remover-for-tf2c
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#267
5 Frags +

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#268
4 Frags +
MightyI'm not even good enough for tf2pug.me
where to go???

this is a srs question.

Would also like an answer to this
Preferably not a pug group that starts at midnight est

[quote=Mighty]I'm not even good enough for tf2pug.me
where to go???

this is a srs question.[/quote]

Would also like an answer to this
Preferably not a pug group that starts at midnight est
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#269
0 Frags +

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/newbie6v6pug

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/newbie6v6pug
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#270
1 Frags +
saamhttp://steamcommunity.com/groups/newbie6v6pug

How newbie do you have to be to qualify? Steel/Silver 6S bad, or straight from pubstomping bad?
my gamesense has been even more cancerous after taking a week long break from tf2c.

[quote=saam]http://steamcommunity.com/groups/newbie6v6pug[/quote]
How newbie do you have to be to qualify? Steel/Silver 6S bad, or straight from pubstomping bad?
my gamesense has been even more cancerous after taking a week long break from tf2c.
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