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ESEA Invite: Froyotech vs. The Mad Men
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#61
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THEBILLDOZERtaggstuffpark the bus after capping one point for the next 25 minutes and they win the money in a boring fashion

except for nobody does or has done this

[quote=THEBILLDOZER][quote=tagg]stuff[/quote]
park the bus after capping one point for the next 25 minutes and they win the money in a boring fashion[/quote]
except for nobody does or has done this
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#62
-11 Frags +

lack of an incentive. nobody stands to earn anything, so people just play for fun.

lack of an incentive. nobody stands to earn anything, so people just play for fun.
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#63
27 Frags +

lol you can't park the bus for 25 minutes, the round resets after 10 min

lol you can't park the bus for 25 minutes, the round resets after 10 min
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#64
2 Frags +

as someone who watches this game a lot I find that koth is the most interesting gametype to watch from a spectator's viewpoint

too bad there's only one good koth map right now

as someone who watches this game a lot I find that koth is the most interesting gametype to watch from a spectator's viewpoint

too bad there's only one good koth map right now
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#65
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marmadukeGRYLLSmostly because that's laughable that a team of 6 players picked off of random teams in NA are going to somehow do what europe and australia and americas "super" teams never came close to doing in beating froyo on lan. i could see teams getting close if froyo kept not giving a fuck and not scrimming and other teams put in 3+ hours nightly with demo reviews and shit like that but if froyo went tryhard to prep for lan lolggandyourelyingtoyourselfifyouthinkotherwise

I was always kind of curious that besides the lack of true high level competition in Australia, why iM with such an incredibly talented roster still couldn't place even after boot camping for a week or two at the i52 LAN.

You would think that's way more hours of practice than what I think most Invite teams put in now let alone way more than how much effort established TF2 teams would put into the game in a short period of time. I don't think any other top TF2 team has ever done the boot-camp style practicing you normally see CS:GO teams do for majors but maybe I'm overestimating the advantage it would give over other teams in our scene.

[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]mostly because that's laughable that a team of 6 players picked off of random teams in NA are going to somehow do what europe and australia and americas "super" teams never came close to doing in beating froyo on lan. i could see teams getting close if froyo kept not giving a fuck and not scrimming and other teams put in 3+ hours nightly with demo reviews and shit like that but if froyo went tryhard to prep for lan lolggandyourelyingtoyourselfifyouthinkotherwise[/quote]

I was always kind of curious that besides the lack of true high level competition in Australia, why iM with such an incredibly talented roster still couldn't place even after boot camping for a week or two at the i52 LAN.

You would think that's way more hours of practice than what I think most Invite teams put in now let alone way more than how much effort established TF2 teams would put into the game in a short period of time. I don't think any other top TF2 team has ever done the boot-camp style practicing you normally see CS:GO teams do for majors but maybe I'm overestimating the advantage it would give over other teams in our scene.
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#66
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You are. I agree with marm here. I think that froyo definitely has the top 6 and if not, close to the top in each role of the team worldwide, and I don't really think Its possible to beat them without a massive practice advantage since they have the best DM and cohesion .

I don't think that bootcamping for a couple of weeks is going to make or break froyo , but I could be wrong.

You are. I agree with marm here. I think that froyo definitely has the top 6 and if not, close to the top in each role of the team worldwide, and I don't really think Its possible to beat them without a massive practice advantage since they have the best DM and cohesion .

I don't think that bootcamping for a couple of weeks is going to make or break froyo , but I could be wrong.
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#67
15 Frags +
PhunkYou are. I agree with marm here. I think that froyo definitely has the top 6 and if not, close to the top in each role of the team worldwide, and I don't really think Its possible to beat them without a massive practice advantage since they have the best DM and cohesion .

I don't think that bootcamping for a couple of weeks is going to make or break froyo , but I could be wrong.

posts like these are simply just wrong. yes froyo has top talent in pretty much every role, but there are players out there even without extensive amounts of practice that could beat them. its embarrassing to read people talk about a team as unbeatable. like i said before, the pieces are out there that could beat them. they just haven't came together, and who knows if they ever will.

[quote=Phunk]You are. I agree with marm here. I think that froyo definitely has the top 6 and if not, close to the top in each role of the team worldwide, and I don't really think Its possible to beat them without a massive practice advantage since they have the best DM and cohesion .

I don't think that bootcamping for a couple of weeks is going to make or break froyo , but I could be wrong.[/quote]
posts like these are simply just wrong. yes froyo has top talent in pretty much every role, but there are players out there even without extensive amounts of practice that could beat them. its embarrassing to read people talk about a team as unbeatable. like i said before, the pieces are out there that could beat them. they just haven't came together, and who knows if they ever will.
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#68
15 Frags +

someone take down froyo please watching a team roll invite isnt very fun spectator wise (imo)

someone take down froyo please watching a team roll invite isnt very fun spectator wise (imo)
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#69
1 Frags +
bowswer5marmadukeGRYLLSmostly because that's laughable that a team of 6 players picked off of random teams in NA are going to somehow do what europe and australia and americas "super" teams never came close to doing in beating froyo on lan. i could see teams getting close if froyo kept not giving a fuck and not scrimming and other teams put in 3+ hours nightly with demo reviews and shit like that but if froyo went tryhard to prep for lan lolggandyourelyingtoyourselfifyouthinkotherwise
I was always kind of curious that besides the lack of true high level competition in Australia, why iM with such an incredibly talented roster still couldn't place even after boot camping for a week or two at the i52 LAN.

You would think that's way more hours of practice than what I think most Invite teams put in now let alone way more than how much effort established TF2 teams would put into the game in a short period of time. I don't think any other top TF2 team has ever done the boot-camp style practicing you normally see CS:GO teams do for majors but maybe I'm overestimating the advantage it would give over other teams in our scene.

It doesn't matter how hard you train for two weeks or w/e if you've only ever played against the best once before. It's only the fact that every player on i52 iM was astonishing at their class + yuki and sheep being insane that let them compete as closely as they did. If they played invite for a few seasons it would be a very different story, it's a pity how shit au-us ping is atm. I think theoretically if the packets travel directly across the world at the speed of light with no delay the best ping possible is ~60ms, something to look forward to in the distant future I guess.

[quote=bowswer5][quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]mostly because that's laughable that a team of 6 players picked off of random teams in NA are going to somehow do what europe and australia and americas "super" teams never came close to doing in beating froyo on lan. i could see teams getting close if froyo kept not giving a fuck and not scrimming and other teams put in 3+ hours nightly with demo reviews and shit like that but if froyo went tryhard to prep for lan lolggandyourelyingtoyourselfifyouthinkotherwise[/quote]

I was always kind of curious that besides the lack of true high level competition in Australia, why iM with such an incredibly talented roster still couldn't place even after boot camping for a week or two at the i52 LAN.

You would think that's way more hours of practice than what I think most Invite teams put in now let alone way more than how much effort established TF2 teams would put into the game in a short period of time. I don't think any other top TF2 team has ever done the boot-camp style practicing you normally see CS:GO teams do for majors but maybe I'm overestimating the advantage it would give over other teams in our scene.[/quote]
It doesn't matter how hard you train for two weeks or w/e if you've only ever played against the best once before. It's only the fact that every player on i52 iM was astonishing at their class + yuki and sheep being insane that let them compete as closely as they did. If they played invite for a few seasons it would be a very different story, it's a pity how shit au-us ping is atm. I think theoretically if the packets travel directly across the world at the speed of light with no delay the best ping possible is ~60ms, something to look forward to in the distant future I guess.
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#70
-7 Frags +
nope packets travel directly across the world at the speed of light

http://images.rapgenius.com/85dd188ff71be941cb5b3895939691cd.500x447x1.jpg

[quote=nope] packets travel directly across the world at the speed of light [/quote]

[img]http://images.rapgenius.com/85dd188ff71be941cb5b3895939691cd.500x447x1.jpg[/img]
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#71
10 Frags +

#70
They way it looks like right now you can be glad if you get fiber by the time the rest of the world is enjoying their 0ms quantum teleportation 10 Terabit/s connections.

#70
They way it looks like right now you can be glad if you get fiber by the time the rest of the world is enjoying their 0ms quantum teleportation 10 Terabit/s connections.
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#72
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nope I think theoretically if the packets travel directly across the world at the speed of light with no delay the best ping possible is ~60ms, something to look forward to in the distant future I guess.

Where are you even getting this number from? Also, would lossless mean near 0 ping for everyone? Wtf?

[quote=nope] I think theoretically if the packets travel directly across the world at the speed of light with no delay the best ping possible is ~60ms, something to look forward to in the distant future I guess.[/quote]

Where are you even getting this number from? Also, would lossless mean near 0 ping for everyone? Wtf?
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#73
14 Frags +

would have loved to play vs froyo in epsi's prime

would have loved to play vs froyo in epsi's prime
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#74
-19 Frags +

elevate is a team with practice that can beat froyo. Just the fact that they've managed to pull out the 4th seed with little to no practice says it(like seriously has elevate even scrimmed at all this season). They also got a good scout pair, demo, and an ok soldier pair.

elevate is a team with practice that can beat froyo. Just the fact that they've managed to pull out the 4th seed with little to no practice says it(like seriously has elevate even scrimmed at all this season). They also got a good scout pair, demo, and an ok soldier pair.
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#75
9 Frags +
gargleburryelevate is a team with practice that can beat froyo. Just the fact that they've managed to pull out the 4th seed with little to no practice says it(like seriously has elevate even scrimmed at all this season). They also got a good scout pair, demo, and an ok soldier pair.

i'm not inside elevate's mumble or anything but i think it's pretty clear from how they're approaching matches taht they're taking this entire season as a complete joke.

[quote=gargleburry]elevate is a team with practice that can beat froyo. Just the fact that they've managed to pull out the 4th seed with little to no practice says it(like seriously has elevate even scrimmed at all this season). They also got a good scout pair, demo, and an ok soldier pair.[/quote]

i'm not inside elevate's mumble or anything but i think it's pretty clear from how they're approaching matches taht they're taking this entire season as a complete joke.
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#76
-6 Frags +
Mr_Owlgargleburryelevate is a team with practice that can beat froyo. Just the fact that they've managed to pull out the 4th seed with little to no practice says it(like seriously has elevate even scrimmed at all this season). They also got a good scout pair, demo, and an ok soldier pair.
i'm not inside elevate's mumble or anything but i think it's pretty clear from how they're approaching matches taht they're taking this entire season as a complete joke.

Maybe thats what they want you to think, but at lan it will be different!

[quote=Mr_Owl][quote=gargleburry]elevate is a team with practice that can beat froyo. Just the fact that they've managed to pull out the 4th seed with little to no practice says it(like seriously has elevate even scrimmed at all this season). They also got a good scout pair, demo, and an ok soldier pair.[/quote]

i'm not inside elevate's mumble or anything but i think it's pretty clear from how they're approaching matches taht they're taking this entire season as a complete joke.[/quote]

Maybe thats what they want you to think, but at lan it will be different!
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#77
17 Frags +
DreamboatMr_Owlgargleburryelevate is a team with practice that can beat froyo. Just the fact that they've managed to pull out the 4th seed with little to no practice says it(like seriously has elevate even scrimmed at all this season). They also got a good scout pair, demo, and an ok soldier pair.
i'm not inside elevate's mumble or anything but i think it's pretty clear from how they're approaching matches taht they're taking this entire season as a complete joke.

Maybe thats what they want you to think, but at lan it will be different!

Because from what they've seen from elevate, LAN is where they shine, right?

[quote=Dreamboat][quote=Mr_Owl][quote=gargleburry]elevate is a team with practice that can beat froyo. Just the fact that they've managed to pull out the 4th seed with little to no practice says it(like seriously has elevate even scrimmed at all this season). They also got a good scout pair, demo, and an ok soldier pair.[/quote]

i'm not inside elevate's mumble or anything but i think it's pretty clear from how they're approaching matches taht they're taking this entire season as a complete joke.[/quote]

Maybe thats what they want you to think, but at lan it will be different![/quote]

Because from what they've seen from elevate, LAN is where they shine, right?
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#78
12 Frags +
marmadukeGRYLLSi get cut and fall back down to an 0-16 invite team

dude we got a ffw 1-15

[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]
i get cut and fall back down to an 0-16 invite team[/quote]

dude we got a ffw 1-15
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#79
4 Frags +
Rainmannope I think theoretically if the packets travel directly across the world at the speed of light with no delay the best ping possible is ~60ms, something to look forward to in the distant future I guess.
Where are you even getting this number from?

I'd presume the maths was something like:
About 15000km from Sydney to Chicago.
speed of light is 300,000km/s
So it'd take 0.05 seconds to get there. Or 50ms.

But, I'm pretty sure Ping measures the time there and back. So the best possible ping for that trip would be 100ms. Sydney to LA would be 80ms. Course, that would be with the presumption that it was a straight line and that the light wasn't hindered like it is when travelling through optical fiber and that there was no need for repeaters, switches, routers, etc.

[quote=Rainman][quote=nope] I think theoretically if the packets travel directly across the world at the speed of light with no delay the best ping possible is ~60ms, something to look forward to in the distant future I guess.[/quote]

Where are you even getting this number from?[/quote]
I'd presume the maths was something like:
About 15000km from Sydney to Chicago.
speed of light is 300,000km/s
So it'd take 0.05 seconds to get there. Or 50ms.

But, I'm pretty sure Ping measures the time there and back. So the best possible ping for that trip would be 100ms. Sydney to LA would be 80ms. Course, that would be with the presumption that it was a straight line and that the light wasn't hindered like it is when travelling through optical fiber and that there was no need for repeaters, switches, routers, etc.
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