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#61
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#59
Depends on how weird TF2 acts, but you should definitely be getting enough fps. The 212 Evo might not be sufficient to overclock a 4770K, you might want to consider the Noctua NH-D14 or the Phanteks TC14PE (fancy colours).

#61
It's about the binning. Nonetheless for games there's basically no advantage over the 4770K, if you don't use more than 2 GPUs (for that you should use LGA2011 anyway) there's no way to that the 4770K would bottleneck. With the 4960X you might be able to get high enough clockrates to overcome the Haswell IPC advantage, but then we're talking about a 1000$ CPU + 100-200$ for cooling being slightly faster (single digit percentages) than a 300$ CPU + <100$ for cooling (and a cheaper mobo aswell), so yeah...

#59
Depends on how weird TF2 acts, but you should definitely be getting enough fps. The 212 Evo might not be sufficient to overclock a 4770K, you might want to consider the Noctua NH-D14 or the Phanteks TC14PE (fancy colours).

#61
It's about the binning. Nonetheless for games there's basically no advantage over the 4770K, if you don't use more than 2 GPUs (for that you should use LGA2011 anyway) there's no way to that the 4770K would bottleneck. With the 4960X you might be able to get high enough clockrates to overcome the Haswell IPC advantage, but then we're talking about a 1000$ CPU + 100-200$ for cooling being slightly faster (single digit percentages) than a 300$ CPU + <100$ for cooling (and a cheaper mobo aswell), so yeah...
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#62
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syllySetsulDepends on the "performance updates" by valve.

I'm using a 4770K too (although with a 7970 GHZ) and on maxquality I'm usually getting stable 240 fps in 6s, some drops in HL and some random bad drops (worst I've had was 80) in pubs, because TF2 refuses to use more than 30% of the CPU. If I can fix the CPU usage problem I'll get 240fps constant, everywhere, all the time.

tl;dr
It'll destroy TF2, as much as it is possible after years of horrible updates.
For other games the GPU might be a bit of a bottleneck, especially on 120Hz (but you can always switch to 60Hz for demanding single player games e.g. Crysis 3).
what if i had maxframes on with this build? (talking about http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2kBAx)

edit: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2lAbB i changed the keyboard/mouse and added a cpu cooler. does it look alright now?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2lJCw

[quote=sylly][quote=Setsul]Depends on the "performance updates" by valve.

I'm using a 4770K too (although with a 7[b]9[/b]70 GHZ) and on max[b]quality[/b] I'm usually getting stable 240 fps in 6s, some drops in HL and some random bad drops (worst I've had was 80) in pubs, because TF2 refuses to use more than 30% of the CPU. If I can fix the CPU usage problem I'll get 240fps constant, everywhere, all the time.

tl;dr
It'll destroy TF2, as much as it is possible after years of horrible updates.
For other games the GPU might be a bit of a bottleneck, especially on 120Hz (but you can always switch to 60Hz for demanding single player games e.g. Crysis 3).[/quote]
what if i had maxframes on with this build? (talking about http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2kBAx)

edit: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2lAbB i changed the keyboard/mouse and added a cpu cooler. does it look alright now?[/quote]
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2lJCw
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#63
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I'm looking to build a system that will run TF2 at 240 fps constant, and eventually work well with the Asus VG248QE. I don't mind maxframes or highframes, really, so that should help. I know that TF2 is pretty processor intensive, but I guess I'll need a pretty good GPU for the 144hz monitor... I'm looking for maximum power per dollar, obviously. I'm pretty broke.

Help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, and Merry Christmas!! :)

I'm looking to build a system that will run TF2 at 240 fps constant, and eventually work well with the Asus VG248QE. I don't mind maxframes or highframes, really, so that [i]should[/i] help. I know that TF2 is pretty processor intensive, but I guess I'll need a pretty good GPU for the 144hz monitor... I'm looking for maximum power per dollar, obviously. I'm pretty broke.

Help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, and Merry Christmas!! :)
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#64
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pD2c should I invest a bit more in my cpu?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pD2c should I invest a bit more in my cpu?
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#65
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StarzZhttp://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pD2c should I invest a bit more in my cpu?

You might want to bump the 3.1 to a 3.4 or so and its not much more but you don't need an i7 or anything like that. Personally if you have a bit more an ssd wouldn't be a bad upgrade.

[quote=StarzZ]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pD2c should I invest a bit more in my cpu?[/quote]
You might want to bump the 3.1 to a 3.4 or so and its not much more but you don't need an i7 or anything like that. Personally if you have a bit more an ssd wouldn't be a bad upgrade.
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#66
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pI0N Is there anything I should change? My budjet is ~ 1000 dollars.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pI0N Is there anything I should change? My budjet is ~ 1000 dollars.
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#67
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#65
Upgrading the CPU usually means that you have to upgrade the motherboard as well, so spending a bit more can't really hurt.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pKLK
H87 mobo, if you want/can afford it http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-h87mg43

EDIT:
#67
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pNew
4770K with a 7870XT looks a bit weird, 4670K and a 770 seems more reasonable.
Proper CPU cooler. The 212 Evo is a exceptionally good cooler, for a 30$ cooler. The sad truth is, a 30$ cooler won't get you anywhere in terms of overclocking Haswell.
Mobo with WLAN.
semi-modular PSU (although a better PSU couldn't hurt).

#65
Upgrading the CPU usually means that you have to upgrade the motherboard as well, so spending a bit more can't really hurt.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pKLK
H87 mobo, if you want/can afford it http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-h87mg43

EDIT:
#67
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pNew
4770K with a 7870XT looks a bit weird, 4670K and a 770 seems more reasonable.
Proper CPU cooler. The 212 Evo is a exceptionally good cooler, [b]for a 30$ cooler[/b]. The sad truth is, a 30$ cooler won't get you anywhere in terms of overclocking Haswell.
Mobo with WLAN.
semi-modular PSU (although a better PSU couldn't hurt).
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#68
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pNCE
How is this build? I can't spend much more than $700, and I need the OS and monitor. I will be playing mostly tf2 and csgo.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pNCE
How is this build? I can't spend much more than $700, and I need the OS and monitor. I will be playing mostly tf2 and csgo.
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#69
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double post

double post
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#70
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2qaw5
cheaper and better GPU
cheaper PSU from a proper manufacturer (not ...max) that at least won't randomly catch fire.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2qaw5
cheaper and better GPU
cheaper PSU from a proper manufacturer (not ...max) that at least won't randomly catch fire.
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#71
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CPU: Intel i7 3770 (245€ )
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 (81€ )
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H (114€ )
Memory: 8GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 (81€ )
Storage: 2TB WD Caviar Black / 120GB Samsung 840 Pro (125€/118€)
Video Card: Evga Sc Signature 2 GTX 680 (400€ )
Case: Fractal Define Refine R4 Arctic White (100€ )
Power Supply: Corsair TX650 (90€ )
Optical Drive: Sony DVD Player (20€ )
Operating System: Windows 7 HP (87€ )
Monitor: Benq XL 2420T (350€ )
Keyboard: Cm Storm Quickfire TK Cherry MX Red (80€ )
Mouse: Zowie Ec1 evo (60€ )

Rig: 1374€
Total: 1864€

[b]CPU[/b]: Intel i7 3770 (245€ )
[b]CPU Cooler[/b]: Noctua NH-D14 (81€ )
[b]Motherboard[/b]: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H (114€ )
[b]Memory[/b]: 8GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 (81€ )
[b]Storage[/b]: 2TB WD Caviar Black / 120GB Samsung 840 Pro (125€/118€)
[b]Video Card[/b]: Evga Sc Signature 2 GTX 680 (400€ )
[b]Case[/b]: Fractal Define Refine R4 Arctic White (100€ )
[b]Power Supply[/b]: Corsair TX650 (90€ )
[b]Optical Drive[/b]: Sony DVD Player (20€ )
[b]Operating System[/b]: Windows 7 HP (87€ )
[b]Monitor[/b]: Benq XL 2420T (350€ )
[b]Keyboard[/b]: Cm Storm Quickfire TK Cherry MX Red (80€ )
[b]Mouse[/b]: Zowie Ec1 evo (60€ )

Rig: 1374€
Total: 1864€
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#72
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Quick pc question, could I put a gtx superclocked 760 into my dell xps 8300? It has a 460 watt power supply

Quick pc question, could I put a gtx superclocked 760 into my dell xps 8300? It has a 460 watt power supply
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#73
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Can I have an opinion on this build?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€279.78 @ Amazon Espana)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler (€59.40 @ Amazon Espana)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€162.71 @ Amazon Espana)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€146.47 @ Amazon Espana)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.10 @ Amazon Espana)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (€295.94 @ Amazon Espana)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: €998.40
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-27 22:21 CET+0100)

Can I have an opinion on this build?

[url=http://es.pcpartpicker.com/p/2qX33]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://es.pcpartpicker.com/p/2qX33/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://es.pcpartpicker.com/p/2qX33/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://es.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770k]Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] (€279.78 @ Amazon Espana)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://es.pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhu12s]Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] (€59.40 @ Amazon Espana)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://es.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z87pro]Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] (€162.71 @ Amazon Espana)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://es.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m2a1600c9]Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url]
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://es.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te250bw]Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk[/url] (€146.47 @ Amazon Espana)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://es.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (€54.10 @ Amazon Espana)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://es.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx770dc2oc2gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card[/url] (€295.94 @ Amazon Espana)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://es.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-rc932kkn5gp]Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case[/url]
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://es.pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ss750am]SeaSonic M12II 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url]
[b]Total:[/b] €998.40
[i](Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/i]
[i](Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-27 22:21 CET+0100)[/i]
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#74
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You don't need a 750W PSU, 500W are enough. Do you plan to overclock your CPU?

You don't need a 750W PSU, 500W are enough. Do you plan to overclock your CPU?
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#75
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sidestepYou don't need a 750W PSU, 500W are enough. Do you plan to overclock your CPU?

Dont think so. My dad would kill me if I plan to do that x) I'll check that thank you!

[quote=sidestep]You don't need a 750W PSU, 500W are enough. Do you plan to overclock your CPU?[/quote]

Dont think so. My dad would kill me if I plan to do that x) I'll check that thank you!
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#76
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No need for that mainboard then. Get a cheaper one like the ASRock B85 Pro4. You can also take the non K version of the CPU then.

No need for that mainboard then. Get a cheaper one like the ASRock B85 Pro4. You can also take the non K version of the CPU then.
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#77
-1 Frags +

How's this build? First time I'm doing this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($116.97 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($53.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($81.49 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($195.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VS228H-P 21.5" Monitor ($127.58 @ Newegg)
Other: Case Fan Filter ($4.99)
Other: CM Quickfire brown switches ($84.29)
Total: $1048.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 16:41 EST-0500)

How's this build? First time I'm doing this.


[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rHan]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rHan/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rHan/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd6300wmhkbox]AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor[/url] ($116.97 @ OutletPC)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhu9bse2]Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] ($46.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-960gmu3s3fx]ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard[/url] ($53.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbsr]G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($81.49 @ OutletPC)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-internal-hard-drive-sv300s37a120g]Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk[/url] ($79.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-hd7870dc22gd5v2]Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card[/url] ($195.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-s210e001]NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($47.99 @ Mwave)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr]EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($32.99 @ Microcenter)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas]Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($16.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700404]Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vs228hp]Asus VS228H-P 21.5" Monitor[/url] ($127.58 @ Newegg)
[b]Other:[/b] Case Fan Filter ($4.99)
[b]Other:[/b] CM Quickfire brown switches ($84.29)
[b]Total:[/b] $1048.19
[i](Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/i]
[i](Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 16:41 EST-0500)[/i]
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#78
0 Frags +
pandurrrHow's this build? First time I'm doing this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($116.97 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($53.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($81.49 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($195.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VS228H-P 21.5" Monitor ($127.58 @ Newegg)
Other: Case Fan Filter ($4.99)
Other: CM Quickfire brown switches ($84.29)
Total: $1048.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 16:41 EST-0500)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-E/CSM Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($59.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($129.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($84.29 @ Amazon)
Total: $1054.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 17:14 EST-0500)

[quote=pandurrr]How's this build? First time I'm doing this.


[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rHan]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rHan/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rHan/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd6300wmhkbox]AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor[/url] ($116.97 @ OutletPC)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhu9bse2]Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] ($46.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-960gmu3s3fx]ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard[/url] ($53.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbsr]G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($81.49 @ OutletPC)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-internal-hard-drive-sv300s37a120g]Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk[/url] ($79.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-hd7870dc22gd5v2]Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card[/url] ($195.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-s210e001]NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($47.99 @ Mwave)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr]EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($32.99 @ Microcenter)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas]Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($16.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700404]Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vs228hp]Asus VS228H-P 21.5" Monitor[/url] ($127.58 @ Newegg)
[b]Other:[/b] Case Fan Filter ($4.99)
[b]Other:[/b] CM Quickfire brown switches ($84.29)
[b]Total:[/b] $1048.19
[i](Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/i]
[i](Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 16:41 EST-0500)[/i][/quote]

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rJNi]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rJNi/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rJNi/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54570]Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-b85mecsm]Asus B85M-E/CSM Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($84.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-kvr13n9s8hk28]Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory[/url] ($59.99 @ Mac Mall)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n760tf2gd5oc]MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card[/url] ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcacore1000usb3bl]Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($35.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120pg0650gr]EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($64.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc02050]Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/dell-monitor-s2240m]Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5" Monitor[/url] ($129.99 @ Adorama)
[b]Keyboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-keyboard-sgk4000gkcm1us]Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard[/url] ($84.29 @ Amazon)
[b]Total:[/b] $1054.18
[i](Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/i]
[i](Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 17:14 EST-0500)[/i]
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-E/CSM Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($59.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($129.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($84.29 @ Amazon)
Total: $1054.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 17:14 EST-0500)

I saw you got rid of the ssd. Is it not worth it?

[quote]PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-E/CSM Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($59.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($129.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($84.29 @ Amazon)
Total: $1054.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 17:14 EST-0500)[/quote]

I saw you got rid of the ssd. Is it not worth it?
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#80
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pandurrrPCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-E/CSM Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($59.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($129.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($84.29 @ Amazon)
Total: $1054.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 17:14 EST-0500)

I saw you got rid of the ssd. Is it not worth it?

I personally would upgrade other things at this price point, but an ssd is pretty awesome. You can get a windows licence for much cheaper on reddit.com/r/softwareswap or maybe free from your school. If you can do either of those, I would get the ssd.

[quote=pandurrr][quote]PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-E/CSM Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($59.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($129.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($84.29 @ Amazon)
Total: $1054.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 17:14 EST-0500)[/quote]

I saw you got rid of the ssd. Is it not worth it?[/quote]
I personally would upgrade other things at this price point, but an ssd is pretty awesome. You can get a windows licence for much cheaper on reddit.com/r/softwareswap or maybe free from your school. If you can do either of those, I would get the ssd.
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#81
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I personally would upgrade other things at this price point, but an ssd is pretty awesome. You can get a windows licence for much cheaper on reddit.com/r/softwareswap or maybe free from your school. If you can do either of those, I would get the ssd.

Alright, thanks for the advice!

[quote]I personally would upgrade other things at this price point, but an ssd is pretty awesome. You can get a windows licence for much cheaper on reddit.com/r/softwareswap or maybe free from your school. If you can do either of those, I would get the ssd.[/quote]

Alright, thanks for the advice!
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#82
-4 Frags +

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rSJb
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rSJb/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rSJb/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-980 3.33Ghz 6-Core Processor ($577.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS8900 Extreme CPU Cooler ($37.99 @ J&R)
Motherboard: Asus P6X58-E WS ATX LGA1366 Motherboard ($359.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 12GB (6 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($163.09 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 2 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($88.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($301.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.24 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($502.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($502.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($158.86 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ TigerDirect)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($132.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell U2412M 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 120Hz 24.0" Monitor ($501.16 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Alienware AW2310 ($500.00)
Keyboard: Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($149.99 @ Dell)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($67.05 @ SuperBiiz)
Headphones: Razer BlackShark Headset ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Projector: Sony AW15 ($1200.00)
Total: $5858.22
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 22:02 EST-0500)

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rSJb
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rSJb/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rSJb/benchmarks/

[b]CPU[/b]: Intel Core i7-980 3.33Ghz 6-Core Processor ($577.98 @ NCIX US)
[b]CPU Cooler[/b]: Zalman CNPS8900 Extreme CPU Cooler ($37.99 @ J&R)
[b]Motherboard[/b]: Asus P6X58-E WS ATX LGA1366 Motherboard ($359.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Memory[/b]: Kingston HyperX 12GB (6 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($163.09 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage[/b]: OCZ Vertex 2 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($88.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage[/b]: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($301.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage[/b]: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Storage[/b]: Seagate SV35.5 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.24 @ B&H)
[b]Video Card[/b]: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($502.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Video Card[/b]: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($502.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Case[/b]: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($158.86 @ NCIX US)
[b]Optical Drive[/b]: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ TigerDirect)
[b]Operating System[/b]: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($132.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Monitor[/b]: Dell U2412M 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($279.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Monitor[/b]: BenQ XL2420T 120Hz 24.0" Monitor ($501.16 @ Amazon)
[b]Monitor[/b]: Alienware AW2310 ($500.00)
[b]Keyboard[/b]: Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($149.99 @ Dell)
[b]Mouse[/b]: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($67.05 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Headphones[/b]: Razer BlackShark Headset ($119.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Projector[/b]: Sony AW15 ($1200.00)
[b]Total: $5858.22[/b]
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-28 22:02 EST-0500)
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#83
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Would you recommend the AMD FX-6300 for playing TF2? How many frames could I expect if I used that and say a GTX 760 along with an fps config? Thanks.

Would you recommend the AMD FX-6300 for playing TF2? How many frames could I expect if I used that and say a GTX 760 along with an fps config? Thanks.
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#84
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TerraWould you recommend the AMD FX-6300 for playing TF2? How many frames could I expect if I used that and say a GTX 760 along with an fps config? Thanks.

I use a FX-6120 and a Radeon 7870 and with chris' dx9frames config the worst fps I got was 60 while streaming a 30 wave 10 person mvm server. You should be fine with the FX-6300 and GTX 760 since both of those are higher end parts than mine.

[quote=Terra]Would you recommend the AMD FX-6300 for playing TF2? How many frames could I expect if I used that and say a GTX 760 along with an fps config? Thanks.[/quote]

I use a FX-6120 and a Radeon 7870 and with chris' dx9frames config the worst fps I got was 60 while streaming a 30 wave 10 person mvm server. You should be fine with the FX-6300 and GTX 760 since both of those are higher end parts than mine.
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#85
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double post, oops.

double post, oops.
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#86
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StimpackTerraWould you recommend the AMD FX-6300 for playing TF2? How many frames could I expect if I used that and say a GTX 760 along with an fps config? Thanks.
I use a FX-6120 and a Radeon 7870 and with chris' dx9frames config the worst fps I got was 60 while streaming a 30 wave 10 person mvm server. You should be fine with the FX-6300 and GTX 760 since both of those are higher end parts than mine.

Wow, thanks. The FX-6300 is SO CHEAP compared to Intel chips... It's hard to resist. I might go for a cheaper video card because I'm more concerned with the processor than anything else. I would like to stick with Nvidia though so I can use Lightboost. Would something like the GTX 660 cause too much of an fps hit? I'm trying to avoid going over $700, but I need something that will work with the VG248QE.

[quote=Stimpack][quote=Terra]Would you recommend the AMD FX-6300 for playing TF2? How many frames could I expect if I used that and say a GTX 760 along with an fps config? Thanks.[/quote]

I use a FX-6120 and a Radeon 7870 and with chris' dx9frames config the worst fps I got was 60 while streaming a 30 wave 10 person mvm server. You should be fine with the FX-6300 and GTX 760 since both of those are higher end parts than mine.[/quote]
Wow, thanks. The FX-6300 is SO CHEAP compared to Intel chips... It's hard to resist. I might go for a cheaper video card because I'm more concerned with the processor than anything else. I would like to stick with Nvidia though so I can use Lightboost. Would something like the GTX 660 cause too much of an fps hit? I'm trying to avoid going over $700, but I need something that will work with the VG248QE.
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#87
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sidestepNo need for that mainboard then. Get a cheaper one like the ASRock B85 Pro4. You can also take the non K version of the CPU then.

Ok I'll take a look on that. Since it's my first build i'm mostly following a build from logicalincrements.com and getting some opinions

[quote=sidestep]No need for that mainboard then. Get a cheaper one like the ASRock B85 Pro4. You can also take the non K version of the CPU then.[/quote]

Ok I'll take a look on that. Since it's my first build i'm mostly following a build from [url=http://www.logicalincrements.com/]logicalincrements.com[/url] and getting some opinions
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#88
3 Frags +
TerraWow, thanks. The FX-6300 is SO CHEAP compared to Intel chips... It's hard to resist. I might go for a cheaper video card because I'm more concerned with the processor than anything else. I would like to stick with Nvidia though so I can use Lightboost. Would something like the GTX 660 cause too much of an fps hit? I'm trying to avoid going over $700, but I need something that will work with the VG248QE.

The GTX 660 is roughly the NVIDIA equivalent of my graphics card, so you should expect similar results (I think). For your build, consult one of the pcpartpicker wizards here, they probably know a lot more than I do.

[quote=Terra]
Wow, thanks. The FX-6300 is SO CHEAP compared to Intel chips... It's hard to resist. I might go for a cheaper video card because I'm more concerned with the processor than anything else. I would like to stick with Nvidia though so I can use Lightboost. Would something like the GTX 660 cause too much of an fps hit? I'm trying to avoid going over $700, but I need something that will work with the VG248QE.[/quote]

The GTX 660 is roughly the NVIDIA equivalent of my graphics card, so you should expect similar results (I think). For your build, consult one of the pcpartpicker wizards here, they probably know a lot more than I do.
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#89
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StimpackThe GTX 660 is roughly the NVIDIA equivalent of my graphics card, so you should expect similar results (I think). For your build, consult one of the pcpartpicker wizards here, they probably know a lot more than I do.

After doing some research, I've found that a 660 would really save me only ~$30 over the 760, so I might as well just go with the 760...
I'm also considering forgoing the Lightboost thing and just choosing one of the new AMD R9 cards. How much does Lightboost really do? I've heard mixed reviews. Looking at this makes it seem pretty amazing, though.

[quote=Stimpack]
The GTX 660 is roughly the NVIDIA equivalent of my graphics card, so you should expect similar results (I think). For your build, consult one of the pcpartpicker wizards here, they probably know a lot more than I do.[/quote]
After doing some research, I've found that a 660 would really save me only ~$30 over the 760, so I might as well just go with the 760...
I'm also considering forgoing the Lightboost thing and just choosing one of the new AMD R9 cards. How much does Lightboost really do? I've heard mixed reviews. Looking at [url=http://www.blurbusters.com/faq/60vs120vslb/]this[/url] makes it seem pretty amazing, though.
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#90
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Planning a build for i52, just seen the Asrock M8 and I'm very tempted. Comes with case, motherboard and a PSU.

Asrock M8: £465
Intel i5 4670 (non-k): £165
Noctua NH-L9i: £35
2x4GB Corsair Vengeance SO-DIMM: £70
250GB Samsung 840 EVO: £150
EVGA GTX760 SC (Blower style): £200

Total: £1130

Expensive for a 4670+gtx760 system with only 250GB of storage (I spent the same on my 3570k cooled by h100i + 7970 system) but for something that will only be used at LANs, for the show-off factor I think it's quite reasonable and I won't exactly be stretched for cash.

My other options are the Fractal Design Node 304, in which case I'd need a motherboard and PSU
Fractal Design Node 304: £60
MSI Z87i GAMING AC: £130
Seasonic G550: £75

Parts from before
250GB Samsung 840 EVO: £150
EVGA GTX760 SC (Blower style): £200

Since I can now get a better CPU cooler and I have better airflow overall I can make some more changes (better CPU,better CPU cooler and normal DDR3 RAM)
Intel i5 4670k: £170
Noctua NH-U12S: £50
2x4gb Corsair Vengeance: £65

New total: £900

~£230 saving is quite significant and actually probably enough to turn me off the M8. The third option is the upcoming Corsair Obsidian mITX case, but this will likely be more expensive and I doubt the design of the case will match what I want from the case.

Planning a build for i52, just seen the Asrock M8 and I'm very tempted. Comes with case, motherboard and a PSU.

Asrock M8: £465
Intel i5 4670 (non-k): £165
Noctua NH-L9i: £35
2x4GB Corsair Vengeance SO-DIMM: £70
250GB Samsung 840 EVO: £150
EVGA GTX760 SC (Blower style): £200

Total: £1130

Expensive for a 4670+gtx760 system with only 250GB of storage (I spent the same on my 3570k cooled by h100i + 7970 system) but for something that will only be used at LANs, for the show-off factor I think it's quite reasonable and I won't exactly be stretched for cash.

My other options are the Fractal Design Node 304, in which case I'd need a motherboard and PSU
Fractal Design Node 304: £60
MSI Z87i GAMING AC: £130
Seasonic G550: £75

Parts from before
250GB Samsung 840 EVO: £150
EVGA GTX760 SC (Blower style): £200

Since I can now get a better CPU cooler and I have better airflow overall I can make some more changes (better CPU,better CPU cooler and normal DDR3 RAM)
Intel i5 4670k: £170
Noctua NH-U12S: £50
2x4gb Corsair Vengeance: £65

New total: £900

~£230 saving is quite significant and actually probably enough to turn me off the M8. The third option is the upcoming Corsair Obsidian mITX case, but this will likely be more expensive and I doubt the design of the case will match what I want from the case.
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