Worked like a charm, by now everyone should have seen the thread and therefore the form.
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10/10 ad hominem.
If you're right you have mental issues for reading.
FYI there's more than one document.
OH NO SOMEONE WROTE IN CAPS ON THE INTERNET HE MUST BE MAD.
Maybe I should take your advice? On the other hand it's coming from someone with severely lacking reading comprehension. Also this is still way to much fun.
dollarlayerYou can sue for any damn thing you want to.
Pro Tip: To figure out who wrote what you have to look for username of the poster . They are preceded by the post number so they should be easy to spot. In this example "#8 dollarlayer".
I can't find right now where I'm supposed to have criticised the judge, but I'm pretty sure you can point me in the right direction.
At least we can agree on onions though.
Now you're actually trying to read it wrong?
My point was what people cared about, since it affected performance, was the VRAM. But in court the ROPs and L2 cache made for a better case since there was now doubt there where less than advertised, it was verifiable and nVidia admitted to it.
Of course review sites wrote nothing about that, since no one gives a fuck about the ROPs and L2 cache, which is exactly my point.
SetsulBut if you want to correct me without even reading the documents, then here we go:
READ THE FUCKING COURT DOCUMENTS BEFORE GOING APESHIT ON ME.
In fact, I'm going to quote them for you.
In the Nvidia GTX 970 Reviewer’s Guide, sent to all media intended to review, repeat the specifications of, describe, and promote the GTX 970, Nvidia stated that the GTX 970 had 2MB L2 Cache, and 64 ROPs.
Alben also admitted that the ROPs (Raster Operating Pipelines) are not the 64 ROPs as advertised, but instead are 56 ROPs. And further, the L2 cache was not the 2048KB advertised, but 1792KB instead
#1662
You've got to give me something to work with here.
I have absolutely no idea if you'd benefit from Hyperthreading and/or more cores.
So still no idea what you'd define as "a stronger CPU". I don't even know what setup you're coming from, that would help too.
Right now an upgrade could be anything from a 100$ i3 up to an 1500$ Decacore for all I know.
I can just ask some preliminary questions.
Overclocking yes/no?
ECC yes/no?
1. Are you serious?
2. Slightly white than red/green/blue? How does that work?
3. Try white.
But so far it sounds like a dead contact to me.
What do you mean, very faint?
Try looking at some solid colours. Red, green and blue ideally. Watch if the line changes.
Is it the top line or just near the top?
1s/ 60 = 16.67ms
1s/120 = 8.33ms
1s/144 = 6.94ms
1s/240 = 4.17ms
In other words the difference between 144 and 240 isn't even double the difference from 120 to 144.
Yeah, diminishing returns.
#11
I'm not quite as optimistic.
VG248QE (144Hz) - 250-300$
PG248Q (180Hz) - 450-500$
PG258Q (240Hz) - ?
However Acer did announce the Predator XB251HQT. There shouldn't be too many 24.5" 240Hz TN panels so I'm assuming it's the same.
I'd guess 749 or 799$ launch price with street prices round 650-700 once the Acer is available.
We'll have to wait and see.
Is it exactly one row of pixels?
If possible test a different monitor with the same connection?
What "VGA plugin"?
#1659
When are you going to build?
2000$ seems overkill.
Frankly I have no idea how much CPU/GPU power and RAM you'll need.
Rough estimate? Or just your current build and then that times x.
There was no need to feel attacked, I just assumed you didn't exactly know what was going on since you wrote "or something".
But if you want to correct me without even reading the documents, then here we go:
dollarlayerI'm well aware that 4GB can be used on the card, just the rest (0.5GB) is so slow its practically useless in games, which is the whole point of the class action.
Nope, still wrong.
The ROPs and L2 cache were a major part of the lawsuit, even though more wouldn't have done anything they are the main reason the class action suit succeeded. That's what I find funny.
Because the whole suit is about misrepresentation, not performance. The VRAM issue is very complicated in both regards, whereas the ROPs and L2 are extremely clear cut. nVidia claimed 64 ROPs and 2MB L2, but the 970 got only 56 ROPs and 1.75MB L2.
Yeah you can sue for anything, I just find the whole system strange. People complained about performance, but to succeed they had to sue about misrepresentation and the stuff that didn't affect performance helped their case more than that which did.
dollarlayerThe way the card was designed it could only really use 3.5GB of memory, instead of the 4GB they advertised, or something....
And you're still wrong.
This is only partially about memory and even then it's only the bandwidth. Because technically you can use 4GB.
The "problem" is that they copy pasted the number of ROPs and size of the L2 cache from the 980. Missing those doesn't actually affect performance since the shaders you'd need to utilize them are disabled on the 970.
Welcome the the American way of justice. You can't sue for stuff that affects you, but you can sue for stuff the doesn't affect you.
So in the end marketing people being lazy and copy pasting too much is costing nVidia millions. Frankly I find it hilarious.
#1656
The 380X was mostly a placeholder for whatever will be on sale in October. Maybe we'll see reasonable RX 470 prices become the norm. That would be nice.
#1657
Yes.
Being 5 years old doesn't suddenly give a pc the right to crash programs.
I'll be honest, the easiest fix might actually be to just install Windows or Linux via boot camp and run TF2 on that. You'll probably get more fps as well.
#1653
XL2411Z it is then.
First of all it's ethernet and wifi. You can get a connection to the internet with both.
Secondly do not use wifi if there's any way you can avoid it.
It will just lead to another opportunity for me to use this:
The speed is not a problem. TF2 needs <500 kbit/s. The problem is latency. Your ping will be higher and it will fluctuate more, the more people use wifi in your area (doesn't have to be on your network), the worse it gets.
To answer your question: Yes you can get a wifi adapter for 10$, but I would not recommend wifi.
Anyway, rough partlist.
I thought about getting an i5-6600 and running integrated graphics and getting a GPU later, but since you might be playing on fairly high settings and the difference to an i3-6100 is only 10% i went with that as planned.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H170M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($34.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 380X 4GB WINDFORCE 2X Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: BenQ XL2411Z 24.0" 144Hz Monitor ($269.00 @ B&H)
Total: $839.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-08 16:20 EDT-0400
There will be some minor changes for the final partlist, mostly waiting for a 380 to be on sale for 150$ again or you can stretch the budget a bit and get a 380X, only worth it if you'll other games though. If you think you'll need more than 250GB we can add an HDD, but you can also just get one later, once you start running out of space.