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#1673 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#1672
Give me an update please once he decides. Obviously if there's further questions I'll still answer those.

#1673
What are you looking for?
For the usual gaming needs (Quad core at most) not much is going to change. 200-300MHz bump for Kaby Lake, maybe slightly better overclockability, maybe not. Intel doesn't do price drops so the current CPUs won't get cheaper until shops are trying to clear stock. Really the only price will be indirectly, same performance with Kaby Lake should cost a little less than with Skylake.

Rendering or anything else that needs lots of cores? Yeah, wait for Zen. Skylake-X will probably just as ovepriced as the >4 Core CPUs from Intel have always been, but Zen should be interesting. Don't expect it to be faster, neither in clock speed nor in IPC, but if all goes well it should be somewhat close. Maybe 80-90% of Skylake-X. Considering that and the fact that Zen should be significantly cheaper to manufacture I'm confident that we'll finally see 8 Cores for less than a grand. Maybe around 500$ (obviously differently clocked version yadada). If the frequency wall rumours are true maybe even 6 Cores at 300$ and 4 Cores with SMT at 200$.

posted about 7 years ago
#24 anyone good with computers here? in Hardware

#21
How did you figure it out?

#23
If it's the Asrock N68C-GS then it won't support any FX at all. If it's the Asrock N68C-GS FX then it still won't support the FX-8350. Only up to 95W.

posted about 7 years ago
#14 Asus PG258Q 240Hz G-Sync Monitor in Hardware

#13
Iirc the boards were 200$. Keep in mind that was a whole board and you'd throw out the old one. Actual cost for G-Sync is about 100$.

It really depends on what that panel is. If it's just leftovers then it might not be that expensive (quarter of a 49" 4K TV panel) but if they had to put more work into getting them to 240Hz then it won't be cheap.
Also potential R&D work for 240Hz, there aren't really standard parts and layouts for that yet.

And then there's another thing: Cost might not actually be relevant. Maybe the don't want to make the PG248Q obsolete yet. I mean who is going to buy that thing if you can get the PG258Q for almost the same price? Also if they believe enough people will buy it for 800$ then you can bet they'll sell it for 800$, not 600$.

posted about 7 years ago
#1670 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#1670
For Witcher 3 I'd say a better GPU is worth it.

The problem is that there's basically no monitors that support FreeSync and Lightboost out of the box (the XL2730Z being the exception). So without doing weird stuff I'd say his options are:
Lightboost + G-Sync but only a 1060
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($227.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($106.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.00 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($288.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($55.94 @ Amazon)
Monitor: AOC G2460PG 24.0" 144Hz Monitor ($350.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1353.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-15 17:40 EDT-0400

Freesync and a much better GPU, but probably no Lightboost (maybe he can make it work but there's no guarantee):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($227.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($106.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.00 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury X 4GB Video Card ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC G2460PF 24.0" 144Hz Monitor ($229.84 @ Amazon)
Total: $1340.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-15 17:42 EDT-0400
There's also a 27" version of that monitor.
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Mf98TW/aoc-monitor-g2770pf

Or just Lightboost (rather the BenQ version which is a bit better) and a better GPU compared to the first option (so GPU wise the same as the second). Since he doesn't have to deal with the nVidia bullshit (we won't let anyone else use G-Sync but we will also block FreeSync in drivers) he could get any GPU he wants (e.g. 1070).
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($227.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($106.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.00 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($428.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($55.94 @ Amazon)
Monitor: BenQ XL2411Z 24.0" 144Hz Monitor ($249.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1391.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-15 17:46 EDT-0400

posted about 7 years ago
#1668 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#1668
Yeah that is not happening.

27" and >120Hz and IPS means >500$. You'll get 1440p and FreeSync by default but it's still too expensive. G-Sync/guaranteed Lightboost we're looking at >750$.
K i7 + Z mobo + RAM + cooler are another 600$.

If he still wants a decent GPU (i7 and 1060 is already embarassing, but we'd have to go down even further) then it's 187% not happening on that budget.

Being willing to drop either Lightboost or G-/FreeSync or 1440p isn't enough. 27" isn't a problem, but either IPS or 120Hz will have to be sacrificed to the budget.
Or the i7 and/or overclocking.

posted about 7 years ago
#1666 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#1666
Could you maybe ask what's up with the i7 then?

Resolution for the monitor?
IPS panel or is TN fine?
Definitely both Lightboost and G/FreeSync? There are plenty that support FreeSync, the problem is that most of them are not in the ToastyX strobing utility compatibility list so while I'm pretty sure that they could do LB he'd need to modify some files.
If he wants more options for strobing then the best bet would be the BenQ XL2730Z but then we're talking >500$.
Similar for prices G-Sync but at least they'll definitely support Lightboost.

What would be the maximum for build + monitor?

posted about 7 years ago
#16 anyone good with computers here? in Hardware

#9
I don't sleep, I just give everyone time to figure it out without my help.

#15
Cleaning it is nice, but if it was overheating or similar there should be beeps.

#1
Considering there's no beeps I can see 3 options:
1. There are beeps but you can't hear them. Either they are too quiet, or the mobo needs an external speaker and your case doesn't have one or it's just not hooked up or the mobos speaker is broken. This is more or less the comedy option. That's why server mobos beep once if everything is alright on every boot, so you don't have to guess if the mobo's alright.

2. The mobo is dead, that's why you're not getting any beeps. If the fans are controlled as in hooked up to the mobo, not directly to the PSU and they are usually not running at full speed then that seems unlikely. It's also hard to prove so let's save it for later.

3. There are no beeps because everything is working fine. You just can't see it.
Check the obvious things first. Monitor turned off/dead/not plugged in, cable damaged/not plugged in properly or not at all, output on the gpu or input on the monitor dead/damaged (bent pins). You can test it all in one go if you can get a different monitor and a different type of cable (e.g. HDMI instead of DVI).
The GPU could be dead (borrow a another GPU) or the PCIe power cable might not be plugged in properly / not at all. Definitely check this. Since you've been unplugging/replugging a lot that might have happened. Maybe try a different cable to be sure. If a GPU can't sense a power cable then it'll refuse to start for obvious reason. It's also supposed to prevent the whole pc from booting in those cases since it'd be useless anyway. So that might be what's happening.

posted about 7 years ago
#1664 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#1664
Overclocking yes/no?
Any rendering? Otherwise drop the i7.
Monitor within that budget or extra?
27" or 24"?
Lightboost yes/no?
G-Sync/FreeSync yes/no?

Also fuck the 212 Evo.

posted about 7 years ago
#8 Pc Setup in Customization

#5
Yes.

#6
He's referring to the copy & paste mistake.

#7
A third core still helps a bit. There's still the GPU driver. While driver + TF2's second thread don't max out one core you still gain a bit by having them on seperate cores, although 2 Cores + Hyperthreading (i3) works almost as well.

He still hasn't really asked a question we can answer.

posted about 7 years ago
#4 Pc Setup in Customization

Yes it can run TF2.
Ultra does not exist in TF2.
You will get a number of fps. That number will be lower on higher settings and higher on lower settings.

Hope that helps.

posted about 7 years ago
#36 GTX 970 $30 Class Action settlement in Hardware

So I'm too dumb to understand the settlement pdf I linked and that you didn't even know existed and I just now figured out what

One of the primary misrepresentations at issue is that the GTX 970 does not operate with a full 4 gigabytes of RAM

means, thanks to your glorious presence?

And you also just randomly decided this is the best place and time to raise awareness for autism and it's definitely not just the worst attempt at trying and failing to disguise an ad hominem anyone has ever seen?

I totally believe that. Just make sure you get it: I mean the exact opposite. It is called irony.

I won't even bother trying to explain why a troll won't work if it's recognizable as a troll from the get-go. Although you probably would've fed anyway, but that's an exception.

posted about 7 years ago
#32 GTX 970 $30 Class Action settlement in Hardware

What the actual fuck?!
I already spelled it out for you and you still don't see it's a troll? Man, reading really isn't your forté.

Come on, I told how you'd find the only thing that matters if you just looked at the table of contents.
FYI I too can use the search function. It's not some super secret americans-only thing.

But hey, since you think ability to read = autism I can at least assure you that by your definition you are most certainly not autistic.

posted about 7 years ago
#28 GTX 970 $30 Class Action settlement in Hardware

I'm amazed you're still refusing to just read the settlement. Instead you dug up the plaintiffs' demand for a jury trial.
And then didn't read it.

I also didn't expect you to keep going after #14. By then I cba to come up with believable bullshit anymore.

But still.
I gave you so many hints that you're looking at the wrong document.
Why would you dig up that meaningless 99 page monster? The only thing anyone should care about is the actual settlement. And in that one (literally the first link on arstechnica too and I think it's somewhere on anandtech as well, no idea why you never looked at it), which is "only" 33 pages, you look at the table of contents and then go to the only chapter anyone really cares about:

IV. TERMS OF THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT
A. Monetary Relief For Class Members

And it says right there

One of the primary misrepresentations at issue is that the GTX 970 does not operate with a full 4 gigabytes of RAM, but rather with a 3.5 GB pool of RAM and a decoupled and less performant 0.5 GB spillover segment that operates at one-seventh the speed of the main pool. Accordingly, Settlement Class Members allege they were shortchanged on 0.5 GB of their 4 GB of RAM, or about 12.5%. Thus, as one measure of recovery, Settlement Class Members couldexpect to receive $43.75 on average (which is 12.5% of $350) if they were successful at trial.
In this way, a recovery of $30 would represent approximately 70% of the anticipated value of these claims.

The 30$ are fucking based on the RAM.

This all would've been over in one post if it wasn't for your aversion to reading.

I mean come on, of course it's easier to argue that 4GB were promised, not the L2 or ROPs, because it says 4GB on the front of the damn box.

posted about 7 years ago
#25 GTX 970 $30 Class Action settlement in Hardware

#23

In fact, at the time such warranties were made, Defendants breached such warranties as the GTX 970 has only 1.75 MB of L2 cache, and 56 ROPs.

Please just read it.

3.5GB appear in that document 44 times because the issue is explained countless times over and over again.
Also FYI this is the demand for a jury trial, which obviously does not include the court's reasoning since
a) it was written by the plaintiffs' lawyers and
b) obviously was written before any trial took place.

But hey, if you want to play the counting game then let's play.
ROPs: 61 - 16 false positives because of "Dropski" = 45.
L2: 47 times.

total: 92

I win.

#24
But it's way too much fun.

And it keeps the thread near the top. That's why you saw it I guess.

But no, sadly this only applies to the USA.
You either have to wait for nVidia to offer it voluntarily (seems unlikely) or wait for a similar verdict in Canada or, if they haven't even been sued yet in Canada, sue them yourself.

posted about 7 years ago
#22 GTX 970 $30 Class Action settlement in Hardware
dollarlayerSetsul, you might have actually have some mental issues or something.. You tell me to read the court documents? Have you read them? Why would I read a 99 page document, when all that people care about is that there is a GTX 970 class action for a free $30 if you fill out an online form.dollarlayerMental issues for reading. Hmmm, please if you are going to call someone out for not reading a 99 page legal document at least read it yourself.

Make up your mind.
You try to insult me for reading the documents, then you try to insult me for not reading the documents?

Like I already told you, there's multiple documents.
Just a random example from the one you picked.

Specifically, Defendants falsely and misleadingly represented that the GTX 970 has 2 MB of L2 cache, 64 ROPs, and 4 GB of GDDR5

Page 27 onwards.

posted about 7 years ago
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