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Is desk height important compared to where you're sitting? I notice that my arm is bent at an angle somewhere between 140 and 160 degrees, and my forearm is resting against my desk so it's kinda hard to move my mouse.

Edit: Is it important to not have a desk that sways and creaks every time I swipe my mouse across my mouse pad?

Is desk height important compared to where you're sitting? I notice that my arm is bent at an angle somewhere between 140 and 160 degrees, and my forearm is resting against my desk so it's kinda hard to move my mouse.

Edit: Is it important to not have a desk that sways and creaks every time I swipe my mouse across my mouse pad?
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I prefer having my desk at the same height as my arm, but it's just personal preference.

I prefer having my desk at the same height as my arm, but it's just personal preference.
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If you rest your arm on your arm chair like i do then its a good idea to make sure your arm is at the same height or higher than your desk. Having it lower makes it so you use your wrist more for movement than your whole arm which can cause RSI and wrist issues.

If you rest your arm on your arm chair like i do then its a good idea to make sure your arm is at the same height or higher than your desk. Having it lower makes it so you use your wrist more for movement than your whole arm which can cause RSI and wrist issues.
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90° arm 90° leg

90° arm 90° leg
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AlexandrosI prefer having my desk at the same height as my arm, but it's just personal preference.

for long term and for extended gaming sessions it's not just preference

[quote=Alexandros]I prefer having my desk at the same height as my arm, but it's just personal preference.[/quote]
for long term and for extended gaming sessions it's not just preference
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botmodeAlexandrosI prefer having my desk at the same height as my arm, but it's just personal preference.for long term and for extended gaming sessions it's not just preference

Do you have a desk now?

[quote=botmode][quote=Alexandros]I prefer having my desk at the same height as my arm, but it's just personal preference.[/quote]
for long term and for extended gaming sessions it's not just preference[/quote]
Do you have a desk now?
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Here's the proper ergonomics:

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https://compass-ssl.surface.com/assets/58/4e/584e5215-aedf-483f-9f43-132af7d23365.jpg?n=Windows_Ergonomics_1920_PopUp_img.jpg

It's commonly recommended to have the top of your monitor at eye level, but afaik that convention is because office use has you reading the top of your screen more than anywhere else. For gaming, you tend to focus a lot more on the middle of the screen, but because I find it easier to look down than up without moving the neck, I have the middle of my screen just a bit below eye-level. The point of this is to keep your neck straight and not bend up or down, what exactly you need to do for that might differ.

http://www.versatables.com/discover/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/ergonomics-keyboard-hands.jpg

Wristrests are pretty commonly recommended too, but they're crutches. A wristrest is bad for ergonomics, but better than the alternative of having your wrists on your desk.
The feet that increase the angle on keyboards are bad for ergonomics too. Ideally the keyboard should have no angle at all, like laptop keyboards or many custom mechs, but most keyboard manufacturers aren't on board with it because it's non-standard.

http://computeraideddesignguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/how-to-hold-a-mouse-ergonomically.jpg

http://www.aim.net.nz/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/mouse-closer.png

https://www.principlefourosteopathy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Mouse-Desktop-Positioning.jpg

Mice come in all shapes and sizes, and unfortunately very few are truly ergonomic. But the important things are to keep it as close to straight as you can (which often means getting a smaller-than-fullsize keyboard, I play on a low sens so I actually need to use either a 40% keyboard or a standalone numpad to keep it good), keep the wrist straight, and don't have it any closer or further than your forearm reach.

Basically just make sure you're able to keep a good sitting posture (back and neck straight), your arms are around a 90 degree angle from your body, but still elevated enough to keep your wrists above your keyboard and mouse. Even any one of those is more than most people do to avoid RSI so take it with a grain of salt, but I've started doing most of those and it feels a lot better.

None of my desks/tabletops I had supported this when sitting down, so I started using a standing desk, which is something to look into too.

DoggerelEdit: Is it important to not have a desk that sways and creaks every time I swipe my mouse across my mouse pad?

Yes. Not because it's bad for ergonomics or anything, but because that sounds annoying as fuck.

Here's the proper ergonomics:
[spoiler][img]https://compass-ssl.surface.com/assets/58/4e/584e5215-aedf-483f-9f43-132af7d23365.jpg?n=Windows_Ergonomics_1920_PopUp_img.jpg[/img]
It's commonly recommended to have the top of your monitor at eye level, but afaik that convention is because office use has you reading the top of your screen more than anywhere else. For gaming, you tend to focus a lot more on the middle of the screen, but because I find it easier to look down than up without moving the neck, I have the middle of my screen just a bit below eye-level. The point of this is to keep your neck straight and not bend up or down, what exactly you need to do for that might differ.

[img]http://www.versatables.com/discover/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/ergonomics-keyboard-hands.jpg[/img]
Wristrests are pretty commonly recommended too, but they're crutches. A wristrest is bad for ergonomics, but better than the alternative of having your wrists on your desk.
The feet that increase the angle on keyboards are bad for ergonomics too. Ideally the keyboard should have no angle at all, like laptop keyboards or many custom mechs, but most keyboard manufacturers aren't on board with it because it's non-standard.

[img]http://computeraideddesignguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/how-to-hold-a-mouse-ergonomically.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.aim.net.nz/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/mouse-closer.png[/img]
[img]https://www.principlefourosteopathy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Mouse-Desktop-Positioning.jpg[/img]
Mice come in all shapes and sizes, and unfortunately very few are truly ergonomic. But the important things are to keep it as close to straight as you can (which often means getting a smaller-than-fullsize keyboard, I play on a low sens so I actually need to use either a 40% keyboard or a standalone numpad to keep it good), keep the wrist straight, and don't have it any closer or further than your forearm reach.[/spoiler]

Basically just make sure you're able to keep a good sitting posture (back and neck straight), your arms are around a 90 degree angle from your body, but still elevated enough to keep your wrists above your keyboard and mouse. Even any one of those is more than most people do to avoid RSI so take it with a grain of salt, but I've started doing most of those and it feels a lot better.

None of my desks/tabletops I had supported this when sitting down, so I started using a standing desk, which is something to look into too.

[quote=Doggerel]Edit: Is it important to not have a desk that sways and creaks every time I swipe my mouse across my mouse pad?[/quote] Yes. Not because it's bad for ergonomics or anything, but because that sounds annoying as fuck.
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I have to switch back and forth between a great gaming setup ergonomically and an awful one. I have to say that game performance doesn't take a hit, only comfort. As long as you take breaks to do other stuff and don't just sit at your desk for hours straight, you will be fine with even a terrible setup. If you are the type of person who frequently pulls marathons consider getting a more ergonomic setup.

I have to switch back and forth between a great gaming setup ergonomically and an awful one. I have to say that game performance doesn't take a hit, only comfort. As long as you take breaks to do other stuff and don't just sit at your desk for hours straight, you will be fine with even a terrible setup. If you are the type of person who frequently pulls marathons consider getting a more ergonomic setup.
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