i'm contesting the point huck made when he said "It made highlander payload much, MUCH slower". At the very least, it stayed pretty much the same while making other classes more dominant.

I believe that it made the game more fun for non-demos without seriously impacting the pace. I also enjoyed playing demo that week with more of a loose rotating flank-combo role focused on pipes.

I think TFTrue undid it (i know SOMETHING did), so I would expect it to be possible to re-do it.

1. not to stalk you, but i did play against your team in a scrim that week (5 days of scrims and reverted before the next match), and i remember playing a good half against your team, then we restarted to apply the update, and you guys did a lot better (we were both demo, and you're much better than me at it). i looked up logs of this and found that you didn't play 5cp highlander during that week, i looked at sizzling stats too and found nothing.
2. i'm looking at capture times from my high gold HL team from S13 vs. my low plat HL team from S14, both on badwater week:

Nerf round Times:
9:45
9:12
13:46
3:30
7:21
8:50
8:27
12:21
12:20
7:40
7:02
8:10
8:10
average: 8.901 minutes

Normal round times:
10:42
10:41
16:35
9:40
9:50
9:49
7:02
7:02
13:47
11:29
5:45
3:51
6:11
6:10
avg: 9:11

so in my experience nerf averaged 8:54 and no nerf averaged 9:11. sizzling stats didn't work for this so i just used every log i was in that wasn't broken

this is within a margin of error, but i think it goes to show that the nerf did not ruin highlander

I know it was pretty rude of me to call you an asshole a while back (for the record, you didn't deserve it and i'm sorry), but if your response is to insult me whenever you see me, you're just adding validity to it.

did any of you actually play during the sticky spam nerf? games went really fast and traps were unaffected. sentries were still focused by soldier/spy/sniper/pipes so they weren't broken. the game was fine and nobody gave it a chance

demo is too strong. limited to 1 demo per team, the 6s meta "accepts" that demo is too good and the whole team kinda plays around him.

In highlander or pubs or even MvM, demo is THE strongest class. Sniper is right up there because in HL and pubs, defensive classes make his weakness irrelevant if he can position himself.

IDK how you can nerf sniper in pubs without making the class unfun, but I'd like to have highlander not involve standing where the sniper can't see you 24/7 and getting body shot when you try to push, or you pop so early the uber is useless. When people use it in 6s, I have much less fun, yet I do it myself because it's so effective to drop someone on their way into last

I really hope vaping is safe for you guys in the long term! I can't find anything definitive about health effects.

For people that click on this thread after the fact:

twitch.tv/collinsgaming is streaming TF2 (backburner pyro, 70 FOV, hightower, a little cringey) and he's not having a good time with how people are treating him, I guess he started crying? so now there are 200 people here calling him a faggot, telling him to kill himself, and spamming hitlers, he's been getting follower alerts such as "u_r_fat_and_gay_loser" and "Collinsgaming_autism", and his chat looks like this

http://puu.sh/cUL3e/5d4e17860c.png

http://puu.sh/cULec/dbe6100ae2.png

he's asking people to stop spamming and saying "Sorry but i've got to ban you", not being mean or upset about it or anything. saying stuff like "GamingGoldfish, please stop."

poor guy just wants to stream :(

how about we not bully someone???????

playing at your actual level is "defeatist", capn, but it you try to look for an IM team without placing in open god help you

shitting on a nobody's thread is fine, but gecks casted a LAN very well recently so it's not popular to insult him

whenever you're asking why people do certain things on the forum, just remember, glorious +frags

removed because proto removed his post

clearly they haven't solved that one yet

I don't mind being lower on the priority list, but they simply don't test comp at all. Not even about balance, I mean that the new weapon literally didn't work in tournament mode, and they didn't notice this.

There's a difference between being second class and not being a concern of theirs. To their credit, they will fix reported bugs if they can.

seriously how hard is it to not click on a thread that you're not interested in? What's the point of telling people that something they care about is stupid? you're not gonna change their mind, the only explanation I can think of is frag farming

sitting in the shower with the curtain closed trying to stay in the warm air as long as possible. basically I hate being naked and cold.

a friend told me about it in high school in 2010 and now I have like 4800 hours and he's disgusted and I'm disgusted