it just feels like after waiting 2 and a half years for just a random date, you'd think we would be getting them yesterday like the date says. however, all they did was be vague as fuck and then just announce not even another date but a quarter deadline so people don't get mad again when it eventually gets pushed back for the 999999th time.
if we want to "push tf2 forward" like rgl says, division in community projects is not the answer and the fact that b4nny and nicell splintered off into their own pug service is a slap in the face for this. what's gonna happen to all the work put in to one project when eventually the entire community shifts from one pug service to another. it's not rocket science