I mean I think a lot of people would love it of ETF2L ran an American division, think a lot of people's problems with moving away from esea is there wouldn't be the same level of organization in other American leagues (UGC) and you are right in saying the competition lies with the players, but it's hard to move around (once again) because we don't want to keep diluting the player base more than we have to, lots of people tend to just quit the game and not bother anymore if big changes like this have to be made, it's a tough position.

That being said, I think everything will be fine if esea won't be so hastey when it comes to the fees, it is an odd time of the year for sign ups but the competition outside of invite this season looks promising.

Another thing, I'm already sponsoring a couple IM teams but if an open team is thinking about not playing because they can't make their fees, please come talk to me and I'll help you out with your expenses, MAD LUXURIOUS OPEN :)

why are you all still arguing? its as enigma says, runes can't be bought with money so by you're definition of a p2w game, this means League is not....meta heroes that are "OP" mostly refer to the competitive scene anyways and like 80% of the time won't apply to casual games that everyone on this forum is playing.

so please, can we give this p2w thing a rest??

pay for my team and ill let you roster ride

im so sad this didn't get any consideration for ESEA, its such a great map gameplay wise and its beautiful!

I mean the whole conversation is me calling cookiejake a douche if youre into that

ROFL

Great players, they have the potential to do extremely well in IM this season, Hit these guys up! <3 corsa

Why does everyone think Yukon is a bad map just because it plays differently from other 5cp maps, same goes for coalplant. Quit being hypocrites people, it's practically like you all open the thread and first post you see is "GRANARY IS BAD" so you all just jump on the bandwagon and don't even think about it

I have a very strong opinion when it comes to the map rotation.

While I don't think that any maps in the current rotation show any glaring flaws, I do think a lot of better maps have been passed on or looked over, or even some maps deserve a 2nd chance (unpopular opinion, cp_warmfront, Yukon, follower, freight with some revisions)

That's not specifically the issue, as I stated before I don't think the maps in the rotation are bad at all. My issue with the map rotation now without cp gravelpit has made having a different gamemode in the rotation seem counter intuitive for a couple of reasons. For one, I think that if 85% of the maps played are 5cp (bad math whatever) then all the maps should be 5 cp, just randomly throwing in 1 koth map a season just seems redundant (like having some unusual extra part or feature) why have teams practice the gameplay of 5 cp all season to have it randomly thrown off for 1 week to play, in my opinion, a completely different game. Not to mention the teams extremely good at koth, maybe better then they are at cp5, only get that 1 week a season to have a chance to play a mode they thrive in.

Now, this is not to say I think viaduct is a bad map, I think it's a great map, but would it not make sense to replace the less popular cp maps with koth maps so that our time spent practice koth and not cp does not seem so wasted or even random? There are great koth maps out there if you take a chance to look or even play test some.

Just a personal opinion, maps id like to see In the rotation are Yukon, coalplant and possibly sandstone

I love the new map except for the massive frame drops (specifically the lighthouse area on cp2)

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This isn't gonna be a post really reflecting on everything in the thread, but if people actually think esea will drop tf2 even with a lesser amount of players you're kidding youself lol they make great revenue off tf2 despite the lower number of players, they barely even pay attention to tf2 and they make money from it.

goodluck trying to convince them of that, the players from most of those teams are the most stubborn people I've ever talked to and think gold/plat is the pinnacle of comp tf2

december 30th is literally the worst possible date to have a LAN holy

as far as I know 10/16 playoff teams are alive and well so they will all probably be promoted, I think it should be a really competitive season of IM.