these threads are never gonna get anywhere everyone has slightly diffrent views just gotta hope for the random ass valbe update where they change some random aspect of either wep and then just play with that for next 10 years

really anything on this website just dissolves into pure shit as we all kno

id be pissed if my med used this shit instead of the bow any med that would do that is a pussy

'issue' with market gardner not on the same level as issue with demo should be a seperate more concentrated threads on either

no i think it should be comparable with rocket's hit box in terms of it actually touches. it shoudl be a fixed arc, faster and smaller rocket with delayed explosion time.

the projectile should touch him like how a rocket will always touch, regardless of ping, on both people's screens

just flailing in the general direction shouldnt hit

still bullshit direct rockets wouldnt do that on 70 ping

all he had to do is know what direction tge scoot was going any flail to the right woulda hit

every single one of those was a lightyear away

uncultured fool

yesss

30cm tall?

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yeah i was loosely playing competitive HL and 6s slightly before i49

spy in its current state is a class that just gets trampled on by everything for the slightest glimmer of decloaking behind a med and insta dying, often times dying waaayy before even getting that opportunity. when you are playing this in a pub, that shit is obviously meaningless, so its really hard to understand why spy mains exist if not for some sort of nostalgia for what the class was.

its not my thing at all, but this class is one of those unique aspects that tf2 has over other shit and doesn't deserve to be objectively worse than every class at every aspect, including getting high priority picks which is supposed to be it's niche

you can't really say it has a niche as it is stands because the only thing it has over other classes is sapping sentries, and then i guess dying directly after by anything that so much as glimpses as you, but im sure in this case you would rather just play demo and then be able to defend yourself after lol

i just dont think there was anything wrong with it. there were times i was thinking it was actually not powerful enough because sometimes you'd hit some crazy shit and still not get the kill. without the capability of being effective at range its a shit class

i fully understand how stupid sniper/this ambi shit is in HL, but its a stupid gamemode to begin with. its built on stupidity, trying to be competitive whereas its understood and expected a pub will be stupidly random

that shit barely ever happened and if it did it was the most impressive thing that you could do in the game. ive never once felt that dying to that was OP and i was always impressed if i was headshot by that thing, and this is coming from someone who has like 20hrs of spy in the past like 8 years.

i never heard this sniper spy argument before valve actually did it and really i think its just a HL thing, but id much rather something be balanced for pubs rather than HL. hierachy should go 6s, then pubs and then lastly HL because everything else is just more valid of a gamemode

102 isnt even a lot of damage you could apply this same shitty argument to pipes fall off

HL is now the only space where spy exists in the class only because the concept of that gamemode is that you just have to play it. if you're playing spy in a pub, 100% every time you are better off playing/doing literally anythng else

they entirely fucked this whole class with the amby nerf

go invite and stream like yight did

thank u GabeN

the audio in that vid has destroyed my hearing also