problems with faceit
12:12 AM - 3D ghost in your dream: im not playing if milan doesnt med
12:12 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: rejoin the server
12:12 AM - 3D ghost in your dream: tell milan ot med
12:12 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: campy will med
12:12 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: rejoin
-your intended (or even 2-3 people who were possibilities for) medic pick doesn't "want" to medic, because they either have a huge ego or want to simply have fun. it's fine if players just want to have fun and not play medic, but that's a very big issue with this website, in that it's supposed to be taken seriously, and there's rarely room for "fun" pugs. I'm not saying that's a request of mine, because i prefer tryhard pugs, but there are many players that prefer having the option to play pugs for fun rather than to try as hard as possible to win by mainclassing.
-half the time one of your two substantially better players has to play medic, as a result
12:13 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: youre trying to be a top player in this game
12:13 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: and you emo out of pugs
-the ceo of the website not recognizing the difference between an issue and emoing
12:14 AM - 3D ghost in your dream: he shouldnt be in the same pug as me
-every single invite/advanced pug (except literally one pug out of my maybe 80?) i've EVER played on faceit has the most ridiculous skill disparity between players that it's legitimately unbelievable that ANYBODY can think tf2 can support a matchmaking system for pugs, where the counter argument for that is that this platform will help tf2 grow. we all know why that logic makes 0 sense; the root of the problem is tf2's playerbase not being competitive players and a very pub and casual-esque game, not to mention that faceit just has very terrible quality pugs, not quite helping the case of making pugs "fun"
12:20 AM - 3D ghost in your dream: its because the site is bad
12:20 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: whats an awful pug?
12:20 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: one where you lose?
12:20 AM - 3D ghost in your dream: being forced to play with skp
12:20 AM - 3D ghost in your dream: and milan
12:21 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: youve played DOZENS of pugs with them on pugchamp
12:21 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: you realize that right
12:21 AM - 3D ghost in your dream: no
12:21 AM - 3D ghost in your dream: i would fat kid them
12:21 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: MILAN CAPTAINS
12:21 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: HE PICKS YOU
12:21 AM - 3D ghost in your dream: i dont add to milan pugs
12:21 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: you realize this attitude of excluding people is harmful to growing the game right?
12:21 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: excluding people left and right
i'm pretty confident in saying the awful quality of pugs is much more harmful to the "growth of the game" (lol) than "excluding" players that are 1-2 divisions below you.
12:21 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: if you want to be a diva, play invite pugs
12:21 AM - 3D ghost in your dream: i pug more than 90% of the invite players
12:22 AM - 3D ghost in your dream: play invite pugs
12:22 AM - 3D ghost in your dream: do u hear yourself
12:22 AM - 3D ghost in your dream: there are none to play
12:22 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: what efforts have you gone to to organize one?
12:22 AM - b4nny | TF2PL.com: or do you just prefer to bitch and complain into the wind
first of all, "invite" pugs are worse quality than 90% of the pugchamp pugs i've ever played, because you have a few high invite players and then you have multiple high IM / low invite players who can only play one class in the game. the quality of invite pugs can also never be top tier, because it's first come first serve, so I don't really see the point in an mm system for invite pugs when there's only 95 invite players in the system, but most importantly out of those 95 people, a lot of them never pug in general, some people aren't always online, etc etc. i've tried organizing invite pugs and every single time they've taken at least 1-2 hour to start, absolutely no exaggeration, and then when they did start, they were very bad quality pugs as mentioned above. also, isn't it extremely telling how pointless an mm system is if you have to ask people to add up. that literally defeats the entire purpose of an mm system. you can think "oh if we get them started, they'll keep going" but that's obviously not the case as a couple reasons mentioned above.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST,
i just want to add up to roamer or demo only without having 3+ players every pug who can only play those classes