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#182 Live from the streets in Off Topic
Red_How about if we don't want to get shot follow directions and don't charge officers :)

Maybe if was that simple we wouldn't be having this discussion?

posted about 9 years ago
#176 Live from the streets in Off Topic
Harbingerboppet The way Wilson phrases it basically makes it looks like Brown was literally running through the bullets as if he was superman. He described it as if the bullets 'annoyed' him. His testimony is complete bullshit right from the beginning lie about his knowledge of the robbery that just happened.

It is also mind boggling to me the people buy into the story that Brown was running away from DW (who admitted he was shooting at a fleeing enemy; mistake #1), then for some reason decided to turn around and charge at him. Let me ask anyone, if you were running away from gunshots, do you think you, with a functioning brain, would turn around and run back at them? It is extremely more sensible to think that after realizing that he was being shot at - MB stopped and surrendered (which ALL of the eyewitness stories maintain and are consistent) then was shot.

Brown was facing him, not running away. He was 290 pounds. The he had approached the officer for 20 feet after he had been shot.

290lb guy was within 8 feet of him. Doesn't matter what race he was, I'd be scared as fuck.

Shut. The fuck. Up.

Calm down br0

Darren Wilson himself during his testimony said that Michael Brown was initially running away after the first altercation before stopping (and allegedly turning around to charge). Read the testimony, I posted it earlier.

Darren Wilson and Michael Brown are both 6'4 - Brown is just considerably heavier - if you would be 'scared as fuck' from a guy who is only 80lb heavier (still a great deal, I'm aware) then you are exaggerating. Someone who is heavier by that much would warrant caution, but not ridiculous panic, especially when you are armed and he is not.

Also good job getting your info from CNN when you just followed up this post by saying that the media can't be trusted due to emotional bias.

posted about 9 years ago
#169 Live from the streets in Off Topic
MemphisVonMarxistwords
Did you even read the article about the pen wielding one armed man?As he advanced toward the officers, Claunch was "refusing to show his hands," the representative said.Hmm. There's testimony that shows Michael Brown did the same thing. Here's where it may be hard for you to understand. Follow the police's commands and show your hands = not getting shot. Now I know you're instantly going to bring up Levar Jones because he did follow commands and was shot. The thing is, they didn't see this shooting as 'justifiable' and he was charged with assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature, a felony that carries up to 20 years in prison. He's going through the justice system the same way Darren Wilson is/did. He shot someone, they felt it wasn't justifiable and now he's (by 'he' I mean Sean Groubert the cop who shot Jones) being charged.

There is no concrete proof whether or not Wilson told Brown to put his hands up or either get on the ground - only his word (according to Wilson he said to 'get on the ground'). All other resident eyewitness accounts say that Brown did put his hands up or more or less stopped and surrendered. This very well could be a case of 'following commands' and still being shot.

posted about 9 years ago
#162 Live from the streets in Off Topic
Phaserapparently after chasing him, Brown turns around, reaches into his pants and charges towards Wilson. He shoots multiple shots and apparently he hit him at least once /(it appears that MB is a fucking bear because I don't remember the last time someone gets shot and keeps running - also, Brown was unarmed, why would he reach into his pocket?)
When i worked in downtown pittsburgh many years ago, there was a gunfight between the cops and a drugged up guy in the T station (subway station) right outside my office. The police shot him twice in the chest and he ran for 6 blocks before he slowed down and collapsed, and he still struggled to be subdued. Adrenaline and drugs can make your body do amazing shit.

Brown wasn't drugged.

The way Wilson phrases it basically makes it looks like Brown was literally running through the bullets as if he was superman. He described it as if the bullets 'annoyed' him. His testimony is complete bullshit right from the beginning lie about his knowledge of the robbery that just happened.

It is also mind boggling to me the people buy into the story that Brown was running away from DW (who admitted he was shooting at a fleeing enemy; mistake #1), then for some reason decided to turn around and charge at him. Let me ask anyone, if you were running away from gunshots, do you think you, with a functioning brain, would turn around and run back at them? It is extremely more sensible to think that after realizing that he was being shot at - MB stopped and surrendered (which ALL of the eyewitness stories maintain and are consistent) then was shot.

posted about 9 years ago
#142 Live from the streets in Off Topic
Harbinger
Also, holy mother of fuck that kid is behemoth. I'm pretty sure that if Brown or any other black, white, hispanic or asian guy that big was physically confronting me, a 5'9" 150 pound guy, while im trying to exit my car

Darren Wilson is also 6'4 and 210 lbs. Not sure if that's relevant, he sure as hell wouldn't automatically been taken down by Brown.

I advise that everyone who actually cares about the legitimacy of Darren Wilson actually read the transcript of his testimony. It's extremely formulated and strange - and seems to only paint Brown as this hyper -belligerent criminal and Wilson as a 'perfect' cop.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images/11/24/darren-wilson-testimony-snippet.pdf

He basically lied with multiple inconsistencies:

1) Says he was aware of the robbery that MB committed /(Ferguson police chief back in august completely refutes this)

2) Says MB was wearing a black shirt /(Bob McCulloch says he was wearing a white shirt)

3) Says he politely asked the boys to get on the sidewalk /(Dorian Johnson, MB's friend said that he had told them to 'get the fuck on the sidewalk')

4) Says that MB said "fuck what you have to say" /(very robotic and strange thing to say, also Dorian Johnson again, says that he did all of the talking and MB said nothing for majority of the time until the altercation started)

5) Says he noticed the two boys from the stealing - why he confronted them a second time /(once again, it's been confirmed that he had no knowledge of the robbery, also Dorian Johnson was not a part of the police dispatch so he couldn't possibly have recognized him)

6) Tells Brown to 'come here for a minute' Brown responds 'what the fuck are you going to do about it?" /(response does not fit the call - also once again Dorian Johnson says that Brown has said nothing up to this point)

7) Says Brown had cigarillos in his right hand/(Brown then proceeded to punch him with his right hand? apparently no evidence of cigarillos or cigarillo residue in his car afterwards, where Wilson said he was getting hit)

8)His whole story is that he pulls up to Brown (who had just shoplifted) and his friend, Brown tells him to fuck off, he rolls back up because he notices the cigarillos, He opens his door, Brown shuts it, and punches him through his window(???) then tells his friend to 'hold these(cigs)' and then proceeds to assault Wilson.

Extremely bizarre as he just robbed a store and it would probably be in his best interest to keep a low profile. Even more bizarre to attack a cop out of random because he told you to get on the sidewalk? Then hand your cigs to your friend and proceed to beat him up through a window and enter his car?

9) here's the good part: He says that he's in the car with Brown (allegedly assaulting him) so he pulls out his gun and points it at him. What does Brown apparently say according to Wilson.
"You're too much of a pussy to shoot me"

ok

10) apparently after chasing him, Brown turns around, reaches into his pants and charges towards Wilson. He shoots multiple shots and apparently he hit him at least once /(it appears that MB is a fucking bear because I don't remember the last time someone gets shot and keeps running - also, Brown was unarmed, why would he reach into his pocket?)

posted about 9 years ago
#123 Live from the streets in Off Topic
iFY_Race isn't even the issue here

1)White Prosecutor has deep family ties in the police force (father killed by a black man)

2)Police force is extreme majority white and patrolling area is predominantly black

3)jury was majority white

4)little discussion on the changes that are needed in that community in regards to the relationship between the people and the police force

In no way is it certain that it is a race issue, but It's not unreasonable to think that it is.

posted about 9 years ago
#8 jurassic world in Off Topic

I'm not gonna lie my jaw dropped when that blue-whale sized dinosaur grabbed the shark. If the screenplay is terrible, they better make it up with some dazzling visuals.

posted about 9 years ago
#116 Live from the streets in Off Topic
SpaceCadetboppetSpaceCadetI live in Philadelphia and I was at Broad Street for this. Every fucking ghetto in the city rolled out for this "celebration" so don't even try and say this was a "white" riot. Were you there? I don't think you were, so sit the fuck down.The picture wasn't necessary, but chill, I think the point he's trying to make is that rioting is not an exclusively African American thing, which common sense can tell anyone.
You're right, black/white and every corner of the globe riot for one reason or another. Perhaps the only difference in his analogy was that in all 4 of his examples there were likely a total of 0 gunshots at the "white riots". Ferguson had what?...150+ in 2 hours? very chilled

Ultimately depends on the motivation of the riot. 'Civil rights' vs. 'A Sports Game' will of course produce different types of behavior - not that I am condoning either.

Mr_OwlIf nobody had guns this wouldnt be an issue

every gun on earth needs to be melted down into scrap

we as a species have gotten past the point of needing them

I'm honestly curious to see how the police force would function with just rubber bullets and tazers. Would be interesting to see how it could prevent otherwise death-causing cases to occur.

posted about 9 years ago
#110 Live from the streets in Off Topic
SpaceCadetI live in Philadelphia and I was at Broad Street for this. Every fucking ghetto in the city rolled out for this "celebration" so don't even try and say this was a "white" riot. Were you there? I don't think you were, so sit the fuck down.

The picture wasn't necessary, but chill, I think the point he's trying to make is that rioting is not an exclusively African American thing, which common sense can tell anyone.

posted about 9 years ago
#1 jurassic world in Off Topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFinNxS5KN4

should i be excited or not

posted about 9 years ago
#107 Live from the streets in Off Topic
Turinyeah every cop that shot a black person is racist

Who said that?

posted about 9 years ago
#98 Live from the streets in Off Topic
Blowsr4ptureMarxist2 words. Gas pedal. The point is police resort to deadly force far more often than they should because they *know* it's unlikely that they'll be held accountable. This isn't an isolated incident. Furthermore, his back up arrived, according to the prosecutor, roughly 10 seconds after the last shot. So it was entirely avoidable.
You seem to forget the reason he shot him is because he was being charged at. When a 250-290 pound man is running at you, one who has already attempted to take your gun and has already assaulted you, you think the best course of action is to just stand there for half a minute in hopes he won't fucking kill you in the mean time?

They really don't know exactly when the backup will get there they have to handle the incident ASAP. And not rely on there backup to be there immediately cause they don't know if they are going to be there in 10 seconds or 10 minutes! I think that he could of used the tazer or something not his gun.

Yeah I have no idea why tazers aren't used more often by cops. Enemy is neutralized, and everyone lives.

posted about 9 years ago
#95 Live from the streets in Off Topic
MarxistIf you decided to escalate the situation by going in by yourself, and stepping out of the vehicle to give chase, alone, then you could also simply aim your gun in such a way so as not to shoot somebody in the head twice.

You're stretching it Marxist - we really don't know what happened, and frankly it doesn't matter. The decision is made, Brown is dead, Wilson wasn't indicted. What we need to be discussing is the protests and the actual problems in that community.

posted about 9 years ago
#91 Live from the streets in Off Topic
ukmMarxistIn much the same way Rosa Parks was not the first black person to refuse to give up his or her seat on a bus, Michael brown is not the first, or even the last person, to be shot to death by police for crimes that do not warrant the death penalty.
http://i.imgur.com/1YLKJ6u.jpg

hey look its the second coming of rosa parks

You missed the point. Whether Michael Brown was innocent or not is almost irrelevant - he was just the catalyst for the protests. At the time of the shooting, it was widely believed he was innocent. As Marxist has already stated, this isn't about Michael Brown necessarily, it's about a problem that their community feels they have endured for far too long.

Whether Michael Brown deserved to be shot is unbeknownst to anyone except people who actually saw it and Darren Wilson - anything could have happened, any evidence could have been skewed.

The protest should have continued to be peaceful, It's really sad to see them take the violence route; it dilutes the message completely.

posted about 9 years ago
#67 Live from the streets in Off Topic
ukmmaybe dont assault a police officer if u dont want to get shot

also maybe don't encourage a culture of "us vs the police" in ur community and raise your kids to feel like police are the enemy if you don't want them to assault a police officer and get shot when they grow up

maybe

or blame the cops and pretend black skin absolves you of any responsibility to act like a decent human being i dont know whatever works

Michael Brown is one person, it is unfair to determine the nature of their culture based on one criminal mainstream case. You could just as easily say that the police force in Ferguson has the Us vs. Them mentality; which could to be the case with actual real instances of racial profiling in that area. You can't just automatically assume that parents raise them with that ideology - as far as we know, Michael Brown could have been taught that police officers are actually spiders in disguise.

You have a majority black community and a massively predominant white police force, and racism still being a thing (believe or not) you are going to have some issues whether you like it or not.
Whether or not Michael Brown assaulted Darren Wilson is a moot point seeing as the decision has already been made.

or blame the cops and pretend black skin absolves you of any responsibility to act like a decent human being i dont know whatever works

I don't think anywhere in these past few months has anyone said that Michael Brown is innocent 'because he has black skin'. Some are asserting that is the reason he was 'targeted', but to say that anyone pretends their race is a responsibility deflector is absurd.

posted about 9 years ago
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