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#119 Invite players in Open? in TF2 General Discussion
b4nnySeeing as there is no way to force people to play in and pay up for any division, sandbagging will always exist. Perhaps lowering Invite fees would have some impact, but almost certainly the best way to tackle it would be to increase the incentive to play in Invite instead. For example if you made more money than the winners of Open regardless of your placing in Invite, then you'd probably get many more of those people who are wasting their talents in lower divisions to tough it out in Invite. This would either take a complete restructuring of the prizes and fees for ESEA TF2 or a significant influx of cash. But of course, we are lucky to have the little prize money we already have so its kind of a pipe dream.

Not sure exactly how to interpret this but it's already the case that the minimum prize from invite (namely, fourth place: $2100 per team, or $2590 subtracting fees, which is still around $430 a person) is bigger than any of the prizes in open or IM ($1500 and $1000 respectively, or $250 and $166.66 each). Getting fifth place or otherwise narrowly missing playoffs does suck though because you have a net loss of $510 per team (not to mention the time investment from scrimming regularly and starting matches at 11est) with nothing to show for it.
This could also be interpreted as having invite teams that don't make playoffs get a smaller cut of the prize money as an incentive to finish the season and get some sort of reimbursement for dropping $85 a piece, but I don't think that would be very wise. For example, if it were the case that everyone won money regardless of their place you could have last place teams that coast all season with no incentive to get better because they know they will already get money, even if they don't scrim and are terribad.
https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=news&d=comments&id=14846 (most recent prize breakdown I could find on google)

speedyplaying open for "money" is pretty sad

As others have said I doubt anybody has played strictly for the money, if you wanted money you would play overwatch or get a real job with an hourly wage. As far as I see it it's perfectly fine to have fun with your buds in open and collect a check afterwards. My first season of open (s17) ended up with dingo+5 vs hero+5 but nobody complained on the forums or got butthurt about it. The way I saw it, it was a good thing because it gave my team the opportunity to play teams better than us and give us a challenge. It's like scrimming teams that are in a division higher than you (in playoffs for example when it's harder to find scrims), sure you might get out DM'd and generally out played but if you never go out of your comfort zone and keep playing shit open teams you will never improve. The second season I played open (s19) it was being 'sandbagged' by 6cuties who were supposedly unbeatable but we took it as a challenge and didn't care that they had a bunch of 'invite players'. Since we didn't whine and moan like a bunch of babies we were able to actually play tf2 and ended up beating them in a super close golden cap (probably because paddie wasn't playing that night lol). The point is it's all about the way you look at things. If you ever go into a match thinking you're going to lose (because they have so many spooky ex low invite players :o) you're going to lose lol.

posted about 8 years ago
#6 Free mentoring by ex prem player in TF2 General Discussion

Please Assist My Good Friend And Teammate, Saam, In Achieving Above 130 Damage Per Minute In The North American Invitational Division :D (He Is Very Big Noob Scout & Need Your Help . . .)

https://play.esea.net/teams/74784

posted about 8 years ago
#2 Bren casting with himself in Videos

You should cast with him friendo

posted about 8 years ago
#5 ESEA pugs? in TF2 General Discussion

they didnt actually give out the prizes and paying for premium is aids

posted about 8 years ago
#26 ESEA S24 W1: mario party 4 vs. fishy fishes in Matches
Trotz21Who will pocket for fishy fishes since Froot had that bad thing :C

or is he back :D ?

presumably saelot/oobii will play cause theyre paid up so i guess rip frootaloo
not sure who will play what maybe they'll put kawa on soldier and oobii on scout or something like that

posted about 8 years ago
#24 ESEA S24 W1: mario party 4 vs. fishy fishes in Matches
mathemaphysicistso is this happening

both teams agreed on the match page to play it tonight at 1030 so i have no reason to believe otherwise

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also note that ding0d and a certain meme spewing garden gnome have joined the roster and are paid up from maL...

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-l_czGnU0RmU/UnD4AHwmwDI/AAAAAAAAG0o/BL6FkJ0laHM/s1600/garden+gnome+beckons.jpg

posted about 8 years ago
#171 ESEA Invite S24 Happenings/Discussion in TF2 General Discussion

ding0d + 5 gnomes seems like a pretty strong team tbh

posted about 8 years ago
#10 ETF2L S26 W2: 3/6 vs. Lowpander in Matches

Go hildreth and crayon!

posted about 8 years ago
#6 Daring Greatly by Deer [fragmovie] in Videos

It's done at last! PogChamp

edit: not sure if it's just cause im trying to watch on a tiny phone screen but it's hard to tell who it is playing in each clip
sometimes the killfeed isn't there to read either cause it cuts to a smooth with no hud
name plates like in the tftv highlight videos would be a cool addition if you end up re-rendering it to avoid being muted or whatever

posted about 8 years ago
#158 ESEA Invite S24 Happenings/Discussion in TF2 General Discussion

what i want to know is why did these apes waste $85 to die in a week

posted about 8 years ago
#34 cookiejake joins EVL Gaming in News
mustardoverlordcookiejake is my invite sleeper cell

I need only recite the correct combination of words and the division will bow before me

good luck with that bud
first you're going to have to make it out of IM without getting cut...

posted about 8 years ago
#17 Can pro gamers........................ smoke weed? in Esports
Ond_kajableghfarechttps://eslgfx.net/media/lo/rulebook/ESLProLeagueRules.pdf
ESL Pro League Rulebook2.4.2.2 Alcohol or other psychoactive drugs
To play a match, be it online or offline, under the influence of alcohol or other psychoactive drugs, even if
not among the punishable substances, is strictly prohibited, and may lead to severe punishment. Moderate
consumption of alcohol outside the active tournament hours for a participant is permitted if not in conflict
with local/national law.

So technically you are not allowed to drink energy drinks/coffee before games?

watch out the e-police might come to your house and arrest you if you have a cup of coffee before your match

https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/chansub-global-emoticon-8e128fa8dc1de29c-24x18.png

posted about 8 years ago
#37 Team Skull challenges Invite in News
RikachuLOOKS LIKE YOURE WRONG AGAIN
I ALSO GOT 2ND IN OPEN SEASON 13
BURNNNNNNNNNNNN

damn u guys are basically the 2nd place champions of the world
also holy fuck goldfish was the only player on this team lmao i think i'll have to give him credit for dropping 54 frags even tho his team lost
https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=3700090
edit: granted theres no heal stats so he may or may not have taken 50% heals which would make it a wee bit less impressive

posted about 8 years ago
#35 Team Skull challenges Invite in News

i just realized how much this team reeks of 2nd place
goldfish & boar got 2nd in open last season
catface screwb and krypt got 2nd in IM last season
rikachu got 2nd in the open tourney at esa rewind & got 2nd in IM a few seasons ago (Lose To Mister Wrench . . . VERY Sad . . . )

edit: rik did win im in s22 and boar won the esa open tourney... but without the help of farmadukegrylls and yours truly they would have stood no chance...
actually im p sure golf dish won im with cafe monster back in the day as well but that's negated by the fact that he got 2nd in open with mr slin around that time...

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not quite as 2nd place as cookiejake tho
s21 im - 2nd
s22 open - 2nd
now the question is: will he be able to break the curse this season and dethrone the baniel or will evl finish 2nd again? only time will tell...
posted about 8 years ago
#29 list in TF2 General Discussion
knuckI see saam has taken over the John Milter role of typing tf2 player names into the pastebin search and hoping someone didn't private their juicy chatlog

nobody can truly replace the pastebin bandit

posted about 8 years ago
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