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I can't read any of this. All the text is fuzzy, not sure why.
posted about 8 years ago
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rocketslayWhy do people need assault rifles? If you're defending your home, a pistol will suffice, right? We haven't reached the point where there's open warfare in the streets or anything
Right, but when that does happen you can sit at home under your bed with your dick shriveled up right next to mustardoverlord while you suck on each others thumbs in a fetal position.
Don't tell me how to defend myself, my family or my property.
posted about 8 years ago
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GentlemanJonSpaceCadetI agree with you, and the points you raise are accurate and fair.I'm fully aware of the disingenuous nature of the discussion in the vast majority of the thread on various topics, I regard most of it (to borrow a phrase from many a US military misadventure) as a quagmire which is why I try to stick to relatively simple objectively provable points of fact and trimming the hyperbole here and there.
Schweppes is also correct in his statements and you guys do not conflict.
You also need to understand there is a double-standard at work here in this very thread and in the way everything is being portrayed on the news.
Go back in this thread and count up the number of times posters have insinuated that anyone who voted for or supports Trump is a racist. Lumping everyone into the same group (racists) because of a few is exactly the double standard and hypocritical attitude of so many posters in this thread.
It might be worth you while to completely ignore the trolls (obvious who they are) and respond to the people who want to have an actual mature discussion and not an argument. There is a difference.
It's a fascinating topic for in depth discussion but I'm not sure the atmosphere here is conducive to a genuinely neutral and constructive exchange of viewpoints.
We are in agreement that this forum is not a good place for all viewpoints. There are some posters here I simply refuse to respond to because they have a right/wrong mentality for whatever reason.
posted about 8 years ago
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GentlemanJonSchweppesAsk yourself this: Would you say the same thing if the roles were reversed and Trump supporters were rioting in the streets, beating up Hillary supporters, sparring with police and breaking people's stuff after the result of the general election?If it was all of them being violent then I'd say that all of them were not protesting peacefully. If it was a handful being violent I'd say that a handful were spoiling peaceful protests. If the police reported that they were arresting mostly members of fringe groups that had exploited the situation I'd accept their statements at face value until they were proved false.
Don't make the mistake of thinking I have some kind of Democrat/Republican bias in this. Both candidates were horrifying car crashes in a country where Obama showed that it's possible to have a unifying President by winning easily just a few years ago.
SchweppesThe media would go nuts and it would never be referred to as a 'peaceful protest', but as an attack on democracy. Which is exactly what these whiny shits are doingI'm not in the media, objectively by any standard these are overwhelmingly peaceful protests. I just don't see the point pretending they are something they are not.
I agree with you, and the points you raise are accurate and fair.
Schweppes is also correct in his statements and you guys do not conflict.
You also need to understand there is a double-standard at work here in this very thread and in the way everything is being portrayed on the news.
Go back in this thread and count up the number of times posters have insinuated that anyone who voted for or supports Trump is a racist. Lumping everyone into the same group (racists) because of a few is exactly the double standard and hypocritical attitude of so many posters in this thread.
It might be worth you while to completely ignore the trolls (obvious who they are) and respond to the people who want to have an actual mature discussion and not an argument. There is a difference.
posted about 8 years ago
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EmilioEstevez There haven't been millions rioting, but there are for sure significant numbers of democrats who legitimately believe that Trump is a fascist and anybody who supports him must be a racist homophobe. Which obviously isn't true.
College students on this message board, who have experienced very little in the world, do not agree with your statement.
posted about 8 years ago
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changed my mind, not getting involved.
The amount of misinformation and idiotic comments in this thread is beyond correcting.
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posted about 8 years ago
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whymeoSpaceCadetwhymeoReading through this thread seeing all the Trump supporters trying to say it had nothing to do with race when the only major demographic trump did well with was white people.
The fact that Clinton was the establishment candidate and racism can both play a role. It doesn't just have to be one thing.
So wait a minute, let me understand.
Trump did well with white people so that makes it a racist vote. (not sure of the exact % just yet)
Obama in 2012 had 93% of the black vote and in 2008 had 95% of the black vote. Racism had no impact on those?
You can't have it both ways.
Yeah, I also remember when Obama ran on keeping all white Christians out of the country so that's totally a good argument. Crazy times my man!
This is called completely ignoring everything I said and talking about a completely different topic.
posted about 8 years ago
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whymeoReading through this thread seeing all the Trump supporters trying to say it had nothing to do with race when the only major demographic trump did well with was white people.
The fact that Clinton was the establishment candidate and racism can both play a role. It doesn't just have to be one thing.
So wait a minute, let me understand.
Trump did well with white people so that makes it a racist vote. (not sure of the exact % just yet)
Obama in 2012 had 93% of the black vote and in 2008 had 95% of the black vote. Racism had no impact on those?
You can't have it both ways.
posted about 8 years ago
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MarxistFor once in my life I find myself almost agreeing with Schweppes lol. A lot of this Trump vote wasn't people giving over to calls for Race and Nation - they were voting anti-establishment - because these same voters came out for Obama in 08'. It's actually a big opportunity for the *real* left in the US to make its move, because 2-4 years from now, anybody who voted Trump with the hopes of real change are going to be sorely disappointed lol.
I am glad he already failed without even starting.
posted about 8 years ago
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Look dude, you are a racist if you or anyone you know voted for Trump....currently (59,054,059 people)
Deal with it
posted about 8 years ago
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Clinton's HQ was packed full for 8-10 hours, they stayed there loyally until 2 AM and she refuses to come out and talk to her supporters at the end of the night. She still hasn't addressed them at all. What a load of crap and really shows you what she was all about. Herself.
posted about 8 years ago
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I believe Clinton has won Maine
posted about 8 years ago
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flatlinewhere's the clinton hq livestream
posted about 8 years ago
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Poor John King on CNN is just playing with his touch screen monitor in the background while everyone else talks. I think he is still looking for a way Clinton can win. Dude is going to develop a blister at this rate.
posted about 8 years ago