Setsul
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#1568 PC Build Thread in Hardware

The other shops appear to be slightly cheaper though.

CPU: i5-6600
RAM: 2x 8GB 2133MHz CL14
Mobo: GA-B150M-D3H
SSD: 850 Evo 120GB
HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA 1TB
PSU: Seasonic S12II 520W
Case: Thermaltake Versa H25
Mobo and SSD not from fgtec, without GPU the total is around 3115 BRL.
If you want to stick with fgtec I'd get the RX 480 but the reference design isn't that great.

This is sort of the baseline.
All of this is based on the assumption that you're not paying in installments.

Now if you drop down the GPU to a 970 you could get an i7, but I think the 8GB VRAM are worth it for what you're doing or rather the stuttering the 970 gets once you start using more than 3.5GB, whereas the i7 most of the time won't help at all and when it does it might not be much.

If you're willing to use other shops for the GPU you could either get
-a 390, about as fast as the 480 but cheaper so you'd still able to get the i7-6700 and have 8GB VRAM or
-a 1060, which would be around the same price as the 480, but should be faster in rendering and maybe even for calculations because the reference 480 can't keep it's boost clock at all times. Also supports CUDA, but like I said I'm not sure if you'll benefit from that.

If you're willing to get some other parts from other shops as well I'm pretty sure I could fit a 250GB SSD, an i7 and the 1060 in the budget.

EDIT: fixed one link

posted about 8 years ago
#1566 PC Build Thread in Hardware

https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-g2460pf/
for FreeSync swag.

Talked to him on Steam as well, still debating 4 vs 8GB VRAM in case of a second higher resolution monitor, but the otherwise the partlist is finished.

So apart from the Brazilian CAD workstation I'm done with the backlog for now.

posted about 8 years ago
#5 Quick 144 hz DVI Issue. in Q/A Help
kayflayI wanted to try to move the gfx card up behind the other dvi port, but there's no room and I'm not nrealy experienced enough.

You can't move the gfx card up.

http://i.imgur.com/JTPRoks.png

The black DVI port is part of the card, it's soldered on. Also the gfx card goes into a slot and there are none further up (since the CPU sits there) only further down.

I don't know how you managed to do it but your DVI port is FUBAR

http://i.imgur.com/pxj1rqH.png

Did you stab it repeatedly with a screwdriver? I've never seen this kind of damage.

If you're careful you could get the bent/ripped plastic out of the way and bend the pins back so it might work. Maybe get someone else to do it.
Replacing the complete port is possible but if you have to pay someone for it then depending on what GPU that is a whole new GPU might be cheaper.

posted about 8 years ago
#1564 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#1564
Do you want Lightboost? Just asking because you got the XL2411Z in your old list.
FreeSync would also be an option, or neither.

RX 470 availability seems almost zero and the 480 prices are still ridiculous.

Can't save the partlist because I won't register.
http://www.skytech.lt/bx80662i76700-intel-core-i76700-quad-core-340ghz-8mb-lga1151-14nm-65w-vga-box-p-276370.html
http://www.skytech.lt/b150m-pro4s-asrock-b150m-pro4s-b150-dualddr42133-sata3-hdmi-dvi-matx-p-269976.html
http://www.skytech.lt/pv416g240c5k-ddr4-patriot-viper-16gb-2x8gb-2400mhz-cl15-12v-p-260871.html
http://www.skytech.lt/mz75e250beu-ssd-samsung-850-evo-250gb-sata3-540520mbs-iops-97k-p-221705.html
http://www.skytech.lt/dt01aca100-vidinis-diskas-toshiba-1tb-sata3-7200rpm-32mb-p-128155.html if it's 64MB, 32MB version is meh. The shop got another wrong though so I'm not sure.
http://www.skytech.lt/hdwd110ezsta-toshiba-p300-hdd-1tb-sata-6gbits-p-267340.html 64MB retail version (= comes in nice but useless box) of the first one, get this if you can get it and the first is only 32MB.
http://www.skytech.lt/st1000dm003-hdd-seagate-barracuda-1tb-sata600-7200rpm-32mb-cache-p-86160.html definitely 64MB since there is no 32MB version, but also the most expensive of the three.
http://www.skytech.lt/112600220g-sapphire-radeon-480-nitro-4gb-gddr5-256-bit-2xhdmi-2xdp-lite-p-320513.html not ideal but you won't need 8GB on 1080p anyway and the 8GB version's price is just bullshit.
http://www.skytech.lt/cp9020101eu-corsair-cx450m-semimodular-atx-power-supply-100240v-450w-p-295054.html
http://www.skytech.lt/ca1c100m1wn00-thermaltake-versa-h24-window-midi-tower-p-254601.html

So that's what I'd want ideally. Problem is that it's 1260€. That's why I asked about the monitor. I can probably bring the price down to 1200€ if I try and cut some corners.

Checking prices in Germany it works out to around 1180€. If you buy the case locally shipping shouldn't be a problem. Worst if you can't find everything in one shop that ships to Lithuania have it shipped to someone in Germany, which means you can use free shipping and some shops that are cheaper but don't ship internationally and them have them send everything to you for 10-20€ depending on the carrier.

posted about 8 years ago
#1562 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#1562
I'd say GeForce / Radeon drivers work well enough that Quadros / FirePros aren't worth the premium for a single person. Companies are different, but let's not get into that.

Don't confuse CUDA and rendering. CUDA and OpenCL are used for computations. Not everything has CUDA support.
The thing is AMD needs more raw computational power to get the same performance in rendering. E.g. the RX 480 has about 30% more GFLOPs than a GTX 1060 while being slower in DX11. When you're just crunching numbers (CUDA/OpenCL) the raw performance usually makes up for any performance benefit CUDA got. If CUDA is supported at all, keep that in mind.

I asked about ECC before. Xeons are exactly the same Pentiums/i3s/i5s/i7s, literally the same chips, but they support ECC. Similar to the -K CPUs for overclock. Yes they do cost more. Intel also is blocking them on normal chipsets now so you need a more expensive one to use them (see Z chipsets for overclocking).
You said you didn't want ECC so there's no point in getting a Xeon.

Which shops are you going to buy from? I should probably get started with a partlist.
I'm still not exactly sure what your use case is going to but I'll try to come up with a somewhat balanced build.

What sizes do you want/need for the SSD and HDD?

posted about 8 years ago
#401 I've updated some huds in Customization

You fixed it in 7 minutes?
I love you.

posted about 8 years ago
#1560 PC Build Thread in Hardware

New post for visibility.

#1552
I'm still trying to gauge how much GPU power you need.
I don't think I've asked you this already, if I have just quote it: When are you going to build?

Also I forgot to ask: Do you want a Quadro/FirePro? Or is a GeForce / Radeon fine?

posted about 8 years ago
#399 I've updated some huds in Customization

http://i.imgur.com/tjLWqSi.jpg

Is this a HUD bug or just TF2?

posted about 8 years ago
#1559 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#1559
New? Absolutely not. They've all been out of production since 4 or 5 years.
Used? Maybe. But it won't be much faster. 20% at best. You could overclock but it's still nowhere near what you'd get with a new CPU + mobo.
It's probably hard to find any anyway. Anyone who upgrades regularly already got rid of them and those who keep their cpus until they die still have many years to go.

posted about 8 years ago
#33 LF Pre-Built (run tf2 at ~150 fps) in Hardware

#32

SetsulThe GPU should be 160$ after rebates. I'd use that if I were you.

At 160$ it makes sense. At 180$ the monitor wouldn't be within budget anymore, if I haven't miscalculated. At 200$ it's definitely not possible anymore.

posted about 8 years ago
#31 LF Pre-Built (run tf2 at ~150 fps) in Hardware

#29
Upgrade as in upgrading the partlist right from the start.
That 380 needs an 8 pin and a 6 pin or two 6 pins. PSUs usually have so called 6+2 pin connectors, meaning you can use them either as 6 or 8 pin. Either way a PSU with only one 6/8 pin won't work.
The build should draw ~350W.

The GPU should be 160$ after rebates. I'd use that if I were you.

Did you check if the 30$ bundle discount applies to that CPU + mobo?

That SSD is much slower.
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Evo-250GB-vs-Patriot-Blast-120GB/2977vsm34732

posted about 8 years ago
#6 Memory Issues in Hardware
SetsulIf memtest also produces errors with a different mobo then apart from some really weird PSU shenanigans it could only be the CPU.BRKSome other IT friend of mine said it might be the CPU

I'd agree with him but now I'm not sure if you actually did test other RAM.

Before you buy a new CPU there's 3 more passes of memtest86 you should run.
1. Only with stick 1.
2. Only with stick 2.
3. If you've overclocked your CPU revert back to stock settings, then test with both sticks again.

EDIT:
Why do you want to upgrade anyway? You know an i7 won't do anything for games.

posted about 8 years ago
#1557 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#1552
I didn't forget you either, edit or new post coming later today.

#1554
Overwatch is more demanding so you'll get your goal in Borderlands 2 anyway.
Waiting much longer won't do much. A week or two are good because the RX 470's and 480's availability is a bit spotty still.

I've made two partlists to give you a rough idea but the details will change abit in the final part list.
Without overclocking:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($215.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($34.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.39 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Other: RX 470 ($200.00)
Total: $725.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-15 05:52 EDT-0400

With overclocking:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($70.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170M Pro4S Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($34.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.39 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Other: RX 470 ($200.00)
Total: $800.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-15 05:53 EDT-0400

Went with a 250GB SSD since it's only 10$ more.
I know the H170 and Z170 board cost the same right now but I'd expect that to change.
The NH-D14 is more of a placeholder than anything right now. It's overkill but there weren't any good coolers that aren't too tall available at decent prices so instead of searching for a 40$ that requires a bigger case that'll cost 30$ more I just put in a 70$ cooler for now.

Possible upgrades (mostly for the non-OC version, budget is a bit tight with OC):
-16GB RAM (don't think you'll need it and you can always upgrade later)
-RX 470 8GB instead of 4GB (don't think you'll need it either)
-RX 480, not that great of a deal atm, prices being ~300$ for those 8GB models that are in stock, but in a few weeks at hopefully 240/270$ for custom models (4/8GB) with the 470 customs at 200/230$ (4/8GB) it would be worth a thought
-"better"/"nicer" case or whatever
-better PSU

#1555
Are you willing to overclock? Because that would be the best CPU for TF2. With 400$ for CPU, mobo, RAM and cooler it's within budget.
The only question is: Is your case big enough for a good cooler? It should fit a normal µATX mobo but beyond that I know nothing.

#1556
Just post again in the week before you actually buy it and I'll make a partlist with the current prices.

#1557
RPM are like GHz, basically meaningless when comparing different fans.

I skipped the line about the keyboard apparently.
Do you want a mechanical keyboard?
Full layout, tenkeyless or even smaller?

posted about 8 years ago
#1552 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#1550
Well obviously only if you want G-Sync, but yes, if you want G-Sync/FreeSync and have an nVidia GPU that means you want G-Sync.

That monitor is out of stock everywhere I think though. Alternative:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/R998TW/aoc-monitor-g2460pg
FreeSync monitors are cheaper but sadly you'll be buying before AMD releases anything that's competing with the 1070/1080.

WiFi should be fine.
There's even cheaper ones though.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/9fQypg/asus-wireless-network-card-pcen10
The USB dongles are even cheaper than that.
Read some reviews if you want to be sure about speeds.

About the case: Yeah I forgot to write that, as you can see there's a lot going on.
You're either severely overestimating the size of the components or severely underestimating the size of cases. There will still be plenty of room in a mid tower with the components you're getting.

#1551
400$ budget including or excluding the monitor?

#1552
Yeah, I wasn't suggesting actually getting a Pentium. I meant that an i5 should be enough since the i7 would very rarely do anything.

Another thing I didn't mention yet since I wasn't finished with the post above is that you won't need a 6600K or 6700K. The -K CPUs are "unlocked" (=overclockable), come with no cooler and are more expensive. You want the non-K version.

posted about 8 years ago
#1548 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#1546
I just looked it up and you said you're going to build after Black Friday?
I won't make an exact partlist yet since prices will still change.

Some things that you should definitely change though:
You don't need Z170. You can't overclock the i3-6100 and that's basically the sole reason for a Z chipset.
I know the Z170M Pro4S is on sale right now but it probably won't be when you actually buy the parts. Even so the B150M Pro4S is still cheaper.
Always go for 2 sticks of RAM. Shouldn't cost more and you get a few percent more performance.
The Phantom 240 comes with 2 fans preinstalled so you can drop 2 of the 120mm fans. I can help you figure out later which fans to get.

#1547
No problem, I think I do most of the work here and since I'm german and the price will be different either way I might as well use the more accurate ones.

Which shops will you buying from? czc.cz?
For Skylake you'll want DDR4 not DDR3. Also always use 2 sticks. Dual Channel = twice the bandwidth. It's not going to make to much of a difference, but it's a few percent of free performance.

I think CS:GO would benefit slightly from an i5 but it should run well enough on an i3.
For newer games like NFS the better GPU will definitely be worth it.

I forgot to ask: When are you going to build it?

EDIT:
God dammit I'm trying to get rid of this backlog but new people keep posting.
7 within a day? It's a fucking conspiracy.

#1548
Budget?
What are you going to use it for? / Why are you upgrading? As in in what program/game are you trying to get better performance?

posted about 8 years ago
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