A lot of what we are talking about is that intent doesn’t matter, simply the effect it has on a division. Of course intent cannot (nor probably should it be) governed by a small pool of largely volunteer staff.

I think RGL putting out a spreadsheet that both admins and players alike can source is a great first step. Without that we’d probably be arguing largely about inconsistency. Now that there is a baseline to determine consistent rulings, we can refine those rulings.

As for actual rulings, i don’t think anything short of winning a division should get you restricted in it, since by definition you were not unbeatable. I think it gets trickier when trying to compare achievements in the div above to a lower div (such as should ADV playoffs restrict you in main). Again, i’m not defending a team’s intent when they play a lower div, nor whether or not it is beneficial for that particular team to play the div they are playing. I am solely basing that opinion on how it effects the division as a whole and I've been convinced that it’s beneficial, or at least unharmful

Adv <-> Invite is a special scenario that needs to be thought of separately. The way I see it, the best players in the league exist in both ADV and INV, but Invite is specifically where the best players in the league are also committing to a crazy time and discipline commitment for that season. An effective 'top' division that does not involve people revolving their entire life around tf2 sounds like a good thing to me and ADV can be that. Having an invite pool of 4-5 were it is a genuinely competitive push to get in, and having adv be an unrestricted ecosystem of anyone who wants to be there sounds fine to me. You can't force people to seek glory, that's an internal drive.

For lower divisions, I agree with everything justjazz said, I think it sounds healthy for there to be a variety of *reasonable* competition within a division. Making every division guard railed sounds counter productive for skill growth. If I had to throw out restriction rules (because there has to be SOME restriction) I would say if you get 1st, move up or offclass. Or, play within one div of the highest you've played. I'm open to decaying restrictions as well. Maybe 1 year removes one div of restriction.

I will say, I think sandbaggers are lame. Rust is a non issue, you can be a scrim team as long as you want if you fear rust. That said, as rumpus and justjazz have argued, I think it is genuinely healthy for the div's competiton, regardless of the reasons sandbaggers do what they do.

There’s a lot of good responses here - I wanted to add on that not every job is high pressure with make or break deadlines. I used to have a job like that and it shattered my confidence, but I’ve since transitioned to a job more similar to what you’ve described. It’s important work but if you can’t get something done as quickly as expected, nobody dies or looses thousands of dollars. This low stress environment has helped me build up my self confidence to the point that im actually interested in looking into more urgent work again, because i now feel like i can do it and succeed.

So given what you described i would suggest finding a job that feels low stress to you and allow it to build your confidence. The fact that you made this post at all suggests you want to eventually be given high responsibilities and succeed. The fact that you want it makes it so much more likely to happen since you’ll be looking for solutions and opportunities. Take comfort in that

This thread has honestly shifted my perspective on RGLs professionalism. I’ve never been bothered by the professionalism in the past, and in fact expected it, but im stating to feel that the behavior policing is hurting more than it’s helping.

In particular this part of what ghadili said resonated with me

Perhaps if RGL restricted its policing to dangerous behavior like grooming or violent threats, or violations of competitive integrity like ddossing and cheating, but allowed the community to govern itself in terms of other behavior (sandbagging, toxicity, slurs, racism) we might have a stronger/larger community? I know this is a baseless claim, it just feels like what we have been doing has not been working. I also admit I’ve never been the target of discrimination, in game or out and if people currently playing feel that the pc culture RGL enforces has made a crucial positive difference for you then im all ears.

??? The steam id of your tftv account is literally the steam id of that player. Wdym “that’s not me”

Are there any moderated mge servers? Where being a dick gets you perma banned?

I agree. Having widespread awareness/standardization of explicitly what is considered ok and what isn’t sounds like a solid first step. I know most of us probably feel like we know what is ok and what isn’t but those lines can get blurry real fast when dealing with real and complex situations, especially if you know and like the people involved. Because of the secrecy of these situations, the community as a whole will need to be the ultimate observers and enforcers of safe behavior rather than leaving it up a few unpaid and unqualified admins

You can see here on the wiki under combat https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/List_of_default_keys

Canceling the engy buildings is connected to the ‘last weapon used’ command which in console is “lastinv”

If you’re not sure how to rebind it, the scripting wiki is a very good resource: https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Scripting

I’m west coast and personally shifting scrims to 830/9 would work well. I would have zero warmup/review for 830 but currently scrims end pretty late since I make dinner afterwords and am ideally sleeping by 1est (so like one hour to cram my entire evening into and wind down). If it meant a significant increase of players from the east coast would play I’d be happy to make the change.

Is there like a public doc somewhere with all common technical issues and troubleshooting solutions listed? Or is all tf2 IT knowledge dispersed into tftv posts

This reminds me of a cfg I made a while back for using the bow. It lets you just right click once to draw and left click once to fire.

bind MOUSE2 +useBow
bind MOUSE1 "releaseBow"
alias +useBow +drawBow

alias +drawBow "+attack; alias -useBow -drawBow"
alias -drawBow "+attack; alias +useBow +sheathArrow"
alias +sheathArrow "+attack2; alias -useBow -sheathArrow"
alias -sheathArrow "-attack2; -attack; alias +useBow +drawBow;"

alias releaseBow "-attack; alias useBow +drawBow"

I never tested it thoroughly because I don’t use the bow very much but from my few attempts it works. If you do want to use it just exec bow.cfg when you switch to the bow, and then reset mouse1 and mouse2 to whatever you have them normally when you switch off :)

I asked dolphin about this and I believe he said it resets after 6 months. I’m not sure if that’s from the most recent sub or the first one though

If you can’t find that specific cfg its not too difficult to re create the things you’re asking for from scratch. If you DM me I can give some basic info/advice/examples to get started. Knowing how to edit your own cfgs and create custom behavior is pretty great because you can make your game behave exactly as you want and come up with lots of interesting behaviors that you personally like.

Brock is literally pulling that out of his ass. Here’s exactly what I said:

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Pretty awful, constantly top damaging and stealing everybody’s kills so we don’t get to do anything, also ruined the team’s emo vibes with his positive attitude