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defyarguably one of the biggest east coast lans isn't even in the states its in canada, a lot of people aren't willing to shell out the money to travel when they're actually LOSING money to attend a lan
But how is that any different from the situation right now in Europe where people have to travel thousands of miles, across borders for a much smaller prize pool, yet they still do it?
MR_SLINTake a look at #227-237 where the aussies are talking about top level AU TF2. That's how games die. It's like Quake. New players have to put in a lot of time to beat established players and there isn't really an incentive to do so. That's when the game starts dying.
EmilioEstevezA lot of the people in this thread are talking about non-NA TF2 as if its dead/insignificant (and so is something to be avoided) which seems to me very unfair considering its recent success and the fact that it's pretty popular.
DUE TO THE LANS
point proven
/thread
But there are plenty of NA LANs to piggy back on and the distance issue is one we face in EU too yet the LANs still happen.
RickMost of the European countries are much closer to each other relative to the distance most NA tf2 players experience- its common for there to be east coast players like myself in NY and west coast in cali, that is ~3000 miles, so ease of access to a LAN that is existing already as a replacement to the ESEA lan is quite absurd.
The distance between Lisbon and Moscow is 2500miles so we have some of the same troubles in EU but we manage them. All I'm really trying to say is that not having league fees, a sponsored LAN or an anti-cheat client doesn't mean you can't have a successful, popular and competitive scene.
ETF2L doesn't provide its own LAN, doesn't have a league fee and doesn't have an anti-cheat client. Yet the i49 finals were an all EU affair and in S16 (the most recent) around 300 teams signed up. Aus/NZ were also able to send a team to i49 that could compete with the best NA had to offer yet they have a similar league situation to EU and around 10% of the population.
A lot of the people in this thread are talking about non-NA TF2 as if its dead/insignificant (and so is something to be avoided) which seems to me very unfair considering its recent success and the fact that it's pretty popular.
mansfield7To some extent any anti-cheat client has to be obscured in some way because seeing exactly what the client is doing makes it much more easy to circumvent whatever controls it has in place.
Surely if it is trivial to circumvent their anti-cheating measures then they are not fit for purpose?
PapaSmurf323are you dense?
you need to have proprietary software to have a good anticheat
Hiding what you're doing is one of the worst ways to write secure software. You are just hoping your software is secure/doing what you intend because people don't know how it does it, rather than it actually being well written.