Kiki The positions he's taken on immigration, media, war, and trade, whether you agree with them or not, are all in direct opposition to the interests of the financial and industrial powers that be.
Not true (see Zidgel's post above).
Also, did you forget the part where he gave a trillion dollar tax cut to (mostly) businesses and then they used it to buy back billions of dollars of their own stock?
(Sauce: https://money.com/companies-spending-trump-tax-cuts-stock-buybacks/ )
How the fuck is that anti-establishment?
[quote=Kiki] The positions he's taken on immigration, media, war, and trade, whether you agree with them or not, are all in direct opposition to the interests of the financial and industrial powers that be. [/quote]
Not true (see Zidgel's post above).
Also, did you forget the part where he gave a trillion dollar tax cut to (mostly) businesses and then they used it to buy back billions of dollars of their own stock?
(Sauce: https://money.com/companies-spending-trump-tax-cuts-stock-buybacks/ )
How the fuck is that anti-establishment?
CaptainZidgelimmigration control, war
Open borders are an internationalist, pro-business position. Closed borders are protectionist and nationalist. Whether they're mean or not is irrelevant to my point.
Edit: On the Middle East, the US should not have gone there, but has created what would be a failed state if we left. Disentangling your military from a situation like that is a hard ask. Not inconsistent with an anti-war position. How would you do it?
You have a very naive view of politics if you think CNN showing donald trump on the TV, or "a minority electinh him" contradicts what I'm saying. I'm not saying a conspiracy rules everything, though certainly rich people can organize collectively, as the epstein case I mentioned, as well as this impeachment process shows. I'm sure you agree that an essential fact of our political process is wealthy people and companies paying politicians for favorable policy outcomes. All this requires is these people or companies acting out of pure self-interest. It can be in CNN's best interest to show Donald Trump if they want to make lots of money off ads, and it can be in CNN's board of directors' best interest if Trump is removed from office, if it might hurt their stock options.
Also, this petty bit about the Electoral College/ Senate being unfair. Power, cultural, economic or political, is concentrated in densely populated areas by definition. On top of this, California et. all already receive more power than say Wyoming in the House. The purpose of the Senate is to avoid situations like Alberta, Canada, wherein a natural resource-rich but low population area essentially bankrolls the entire country's budget. "Power" is more than how many guys in suits you have standing around in some room in DC. How many House seats is NBC's headquarters in Manhattan worth?
[quote=CaptainZidgel]immigration control, war[/quote]
Open borders are an internationalist, pro-business position. Closed borders are protectionist and nationalist. Whether they're mean or not is irrelevant to my point.
Edit: On the Middle East, the US should not have gone there, but has created what would be a failed state if we left. Disentangling your military from a situation like that is a hard ask. Not inconsistent with an anti-war position. How would you do it?
You have a very naive view of politics if you think CNN showing donald trump on the TV, or "a minority electinh him" contradicts what I'm saying. I'm not saying a conspiracy rules everything, though certainly rich people can organize collectively, as the epstein case I mentioned, as well as this impeachment process shows. I'm sure you agree that an essential fact of our political process is wealthy people and companies paying politicians for favorable policy outcomes. All this requires is these people or companies acting out of pure self-interest. It can be in CNN's best interest to show Donald Trump if they want to make lots of money off ads, and it can be in CNN's board of directors' best interest if Trump is removed from office, if it might hurt their stock options.
Also, this petty bit about the Electoral College/ Senate being unfair. Power, cultural, economic or political, is concentrated in densely populated areas by definition. On top of this, California et. all already receive more power than say Wyoming in the House. The purpose of the Senate is to avoid situations like Alberta, Canada, wherein a natural resource-rich but low population area essentially bankrolls the entire country's budget. "Power" is more than how many guys in suits you have standing around in some room in DC. How many House seats is NBC's headquarters in Manhattan worth?
Shears
Looks like he gave free money to big business. I'm disappointed but not really surprised.
That doesn't change the nationalist policies he has put in motion, however. Before Trump I don't think anyone would've thought a trade war with China would ever happen. He has also given handouts to independent dairy farmers and propped up a coal industry that the economies of say West Virginia depend on. These are protectionist policies that benefit his voting base: working class whites whose lives were destroyed by globalization, at the hands of multinat firms and high finance.
I don't want to fellate the guy, but we can do this anecdotal "what about when Trump did X" thing all day. He's greedy and rich, he is also a nationalist. He is both.
[quote=Shears][/quote]
Looks like he gave free money to big business. I'm disappointed but not really surprised.
That doesn't change the nationalist policies he has put in motion, however. Before Trump I don't think anyone would've thought a trade war with China would ever happen. He has also given handouts to independent dairy farmers and propped up a coal industry that the economies of say West Virginia depend on. These are protectionist policies that benefit his voting base: working class whites whose lives were destroyed by globalization, at the hands of multinat firms and high finance.
I don't want to fellate the guy, but we can do this anecdotal "what about when Trump did X" thing all day. He's greedy and rich, he is also a nationalist. He is both.
KikiThese are protectionist policies that benefit his voting base: working class whites whose lives were destroyed by globalization, at the hands of multinat firms and high finance.
lmfao trumps base isnt "white working class" its white suburban middle upper class shitheads
the people you're talking about just dont vote
[quote=Kiki]These are protectionist policies that benefit his voting base: working class whites whose lives were destroyed by globalization, at the hands of multinat firms and high finance.[/quote]
lmfao trumps base isnt "white working class" its white suburban middle upper class shitheads
the people you're talking about just dont vote