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ESEA Open S30 Happenings/Discussion
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#481
14 Frags +

i take full responsibility for the events that transpired last night due to my inability to control the childish actions of my teammates

i fully regret the ending of our sponsorship with extine and his brand, i deeply apologize for any bad publicity these players and i may have brought upon his brand, and i wish extine nothing but the best going forward with his brand and any team lucky enough to receive his support, guidance, and wisdom

i take full responsibility for the events that transpired last night due to my inability to control the childish actions of my teammates

i fully regret the ending of our sponsorship with extine and his brand, i deeply apologize for any bad publicity these players and i may have brought upon his brand, and i wish extine nothing but the best going forward with his brand and any team lucky enough to receive his support, guidance, and wisdom
482
#482
eXtelevision
26 Frags +

My brand will be just fine.

I hope you've reflected upon how this looks for you Viper. We could have, and should have played that game 5v6 and you could have taught someone a lesson by making him sit on the bench, but nope, "team synergy". He's been on the roster a week, I think standing up to hatred and bigotry is more important than getting a win in ESEA no matter who it is on the team.

You say you couldn't control the childish actions of your teammates, but you had the keys to the car in your hand the whole time. I'm very disappointed in you, after our last captain left you seemed like you really had control of the team, the situation, and understood your responsibilities as a team leader. I wish you could have put your foot down to support the values of the Burnsiders and what we're trying to accomplish.

I hope you realize how your lack of action on this has impacted others besides you and me. The other four teammates have been tarnished by this, at least in my eyes. I got apologies from two players which I appreciated and I understand it must have been tough for them in the moment. I also apologized to your opponents. Dependent on ESEA's response, I might not be involved with the league in any way shape or form in the future. I'm disgusted this happened with a team I was sponsoring. I'd be disgusted if it was my team's opponent. If I don't feel confidant that I can show up to broadcast a match and potential unprofessional behavior will be punished, I'm not gonna show up to the match. I was considering sponsoring two teams neXt season and eXpanding the resources I was spending.

My brand will be just fine.

I hope you've reflected upon how this looks for you Viper. We could have, and should have played that game 5v6 and you could have taught someone a lesson by making him sit on the bench, but nope, "team synergy". He's been on the roster a week, I think standing up to hatred and bigotry is more important than getting a win in ESEA no matter who it is on the team.

You say you couldn't control the childish actions of your teammates, but you had the keys to the car in your hand the whole time. I'm very disappointed in you, after our last captain left you seemed like you really had control of the team, the situation, and understood your responsibilities as a team leader. I wish you could have put your foot down to support the values of the Burnsiders and what we're trying to accomplish.

I hope you realize how your lack of action on this has impacted others besides you and me. The other four teammates have been tarnished by this, at least in my eyes. I got apologies from two players which I appreciated and I understand it must have been tough for them in the moment. I also apologized to your opponents. Dependent on ESEA's response, I might not be involved with the league in any way shape or form in the future. I'm disgusted this happened with a team I was sponsoring. I'd be disgusted if it was my team's opponent. If I don't feel confidant that I can show up to broadcast a match and potential unprofessional behavior will be punished, I'm not gonna show up to the match. I was considering sponsoring two teams neXt season and eXpanding the resources I was spending.
483
#483
6 Frags +

i fully understand the ramifications of these events and that i need to put my foot down when those on my team display actions that are unprofessional and unbecoming of those under the banner of an organization

ur right in that keeping a respectful and honorable appearance as a team is vastly more important than a win in ESEA and i failed in not making that decision

i fully understand the ramifications of these events and that i need to put my foot down when those on my team display actions that are unprofessional and unbecoming of those under the banner of an organization

ur right in that keeping a respectful and honorable appearance as a team is vastly more important than a win in ESEA and i failed in not making that decision
484
#484
-33 Frags +

damn the only thing that's stopping tf2 from becoming the next big esport is someone making their name nate higgers on esea

damn the only thing that's stopping tf2 from becoming the next big esport is someone making their name nate higgers on esea
485
#485
eXtelevision
32 Frags +
vladdamn the only thing that's stopping tf2 from becoming the next big esport is someone making their name nate higgers on esea

one step at a time yao

[quote=vlad]damn the only thing that's stopping tf2 from becoming the next big esport is someone making their name nate higgers on esea[/quote]

one step at a time yao
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#486
eXtelevision
18 Frags +

Team atmosphere must be great, who's the chef these days?

Team atmosphere must be great, who's the chef these days?
487
#487
eXtelevision
21 Frags +

"Hello,

The player has been issued a 3 day community conduct ban which will negatively affect his karma and will stick with potential future conduct bans. If the player receives a significant amount of negative karma they are banned for a month and will not be able to participate in league."

"Hello,

The player has been issued a 3 day community conduct ban which will negatively affect his karma and will stick with potential future conduct bans. If the player receives a significant amount of negative karma they are banned for a month and will not be able to participate in league."
488
#488
27 Frags +

The N-Word Free Zone would like to stand in solidarity with eXtine and the Portlandburnsider organization. We never condone racism, sexism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia or hatred of any kind.

Thank You.

The N-Word Free Zone would like to stand in solidarity with eXtine and the Portlandburnsider organization. We never condone racism, sexism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia or hatred of any kind.

Thank You.
489
#489
eXtelevision
14 Frags +
loljkThe N-Word Free Zone would like to stand in solidarity with eXtine and the Portlandburnsider organization. We never condone racism, sexism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia or hatred of any kind.

Thank You.

Thanks yao, I appreciate the sentiment even though your team name makes you awkward to cast. I powered through though, and voiced appreciation for you guys throughout the cast of your match on the 19th. Unfortunately I took the vods down since I don't want to be associated with the roster we fielded at all. Lmk if you want it and I can download it off YT for you.

[quote=loljk]The N-Word Free Zone would like to stand in solidarity with eXtine and the Portlandburnsider organization. We never condone racism, sexism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia or hatred of any kind.

Thank You.[/quote]

Thanks yao, I appreciate the sentiment even though your team name makes you awkward to cast. I powered through though, and voiced appreciation for you guys throughout the cast of your match on the 19th. Unfortunately I took the vods down since I don't want to be associated with the roster we fielded at all. Lmk if you want it and I can download it off YT for you.
490
#490
5 Frags +

yo why is black history month the shortest month

yo why is black history month the shortest month
491
#491
21 Frags +

Thanks eXtine, we appreciate the shout cast. You are doing us a favor by taking down that thrashing. Much love... Peace.

Thanks eXtine, we appreciate the shout cast. You are doing us a favor by taking down that thrashing. Much love... Peace.
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#492
-36 Frags +

whats wrong with a name like nate? seems like im r/outoftheloop!

downvote if ur reallly really bad at tf2

whats wrong with a name like nate? seems like im r/outoftheloop!

downvote if ur reallly really bad at tf2
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#493
-6 Frags +

oops my bad

oops my bad
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#494
3 Frags +
safrixyo why is black history month the shortest month

http://mentalfloss.com/article/91756/why-was-february-chosen-black-history-month

[quote=safrix]yo why is black history month the shortest month[/quote]
http://mentalfloss.com/article/91756/why-was-february-chosen-black-history-month
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#495
-8 Frags +

R/woosh

R/woosh
496
#496
Fireside Casts
13 Frags +

murk and hellcatt getting caught in a crossfire FeelsBadMan

murk and hellcatt getting caught in a crossfire FeelsBadMan
497
#497
22 Frags +

This def sucks to be in the middle of... I think if anyones rep should be tarnished its the player that changed his name. We were just chilling and waiting for the enemy team and he rejoined under that alias without consulting anyone else on the team. I yelled at him for it but theres not much I can do about it sadly. I payed to play this season and im not going to miss a match because my teammates being a edgy 13 year old. Thats at least my two cents on this.

This def sucks to be in the middle of... I think if anyones rep should be tarnished its the player that changed his name. We were just chilling and waiting for the enemy team and he rejoined under that alias without consulting anyone else on the team. I yelled at him for it but theres not much I can do about it sadly. I payed to play this season and im not going to miss a match because my teammates being a edgy 13 year old. Thats at least my two cents on this.
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#498
14 Frags +

https://i.imgur.com/hD0pIWn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hD0pIWn.jpg
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#499
eXtelevision
1 Frags +
crybabyhttps://i.imgur.com/hD0pIWn.jpg

I do like that meme format, but imo you could trim down half the teXt in each frame.

[quote=crybaby]https://i.imgur.com/hD0pIWn.jpg[/quote]

I do like that meme format, but imo you could trim down half the teXt in each frame.
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#500
Fireside Casts
1 Frags +

put me back in coach. im ready.

btw lft sub scout/roamer/med!!!

put me back in coach. im ready.

btw lft sub scout/roamer/med!!!
501
#501
6 Frags +

Who even is the player that changed their name to nate? Isn't that ekho?

Who even is the player that changed their name to nate? Isn't that ekho?
502
#502
eXtelevision
5 Frags +
HellcattThis def sucks to be in the middle of... I think if anyones rep should be tarnished its the player that changed his name. We were just chilling and waiting for the enemy team and he rejoined under that alias without consulting anyone else on the team. I yelled at him for it but theres not much I can do about it sadly. I payed to play this season and im not going to miss a match because my teammates being a edgy 13 year old. Thats at least my two cents on this.

I apologize to you for my failure as a team sponsor to not (edited in "not", was sorta confusing) have you guys on a roster that I control, which would have enabled me to instantly kick the player in question from the roster myself ,and not have to rely on a team captain to make that sort of decision about player discipline on the fly right before a match starts. This incident has upset me, and I'm very sorry about this.

I hope Viper has apologized to you for his failure to step in and control this teammate. You are a team and you are associated with who you play with, you are right there alongside that player's name in the STV, wearing my tag.

Viper had control of this situation and could have kicked the player from the team roster, removing him from the match. You could have left the match.

I hope

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VendingMachine

has apologized to you for his actions that night and dragging you into this debacle. You don't have to play with this person who severely disrespected you and your teammates. You also don't have to play with this team if its filled with a bunch of people who don't respect how their behavior makes YOU look.

Thanks again for your earlier apologies, I wish you the best of luck with the rest of your playing career.

[quote=Hellcatt]This def sucks to be in the middle of... I think if anyones rep should be tarnished its the player that changed his name. We were just chilling and waiting for the enemy team and he rejoined under that alias without consulting anyone else on the team. I yelled at him for it but theres not much I can do about it sadly. I payed to play this season and im not going to miss a match because my teammates being a edgy 13 year old. Thats at least my two cents on this.[/quote]

I apologize to you for my failure as a team sponsor to not [i](edited in "not", was sorta confusing) [/i]have you guys on a roster that I control, which would have enabled me to instantly kick the player in question from the roster myself ,and not have to rely on a team captain to make that sort of decision about player discipline on the fly right before a match starts. This incident has upset me, and I'm very sorry about this.

I hope Viper has apologized to you for his failure to step in and control this teammate. You are a team and you are associated with who you play with, you are right there alongside that player's name in the STV, wearing my tag.

Viper had control of this situation and could have kicked the player from the team roster, removing him from the match. You could have left the match.

I hope [spoiler]VendingMachine [/spoiler] has apologized to you for his actions that night and dragging you into this debacle. You don't have to play with this person who severely disrespected you and your teammates. You also don't have to play with this team if its filled with a bunch of people who don't respect how their behavior makes YOU look.

Thanks again for your earlier apologies, I wish you the best of luck with the rest of your playing career.
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#503
5 Frags +
andrew-Who even is the player that changed their name to nate? Isn't that ekho?

probably. it sounds like something he would do.

[quote=andrew-]Who even is the player that changed their name to nate? Isn't that ekho?[/quote]
probably. it sounds like something he would do.
504
#504
3 Frags +

Yep, it's ekh0

http://logs.tf/2222284#76561198089413141

Yep, it's ekh0

http://logs.tf/2222284#76561198089413141
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#505
eXtelevision
16 Frags +

Hm, curiously enough... there is an disciplinary ban on ehk0's ESEA profile that he has going for RedemptionArc in IM, I wonder how ESEA would think about that.

Hm, aren't there rules about being on two teams at once? I wonder how ESEA would feel about that

Don't they crack down harder on people who are trying to evade bans?

Curious, I wonder how ESEA will feel about this.

Hm, curiously enough... there is an disciplinary ban on ehk0's ESEA profile that he has going for RedemptionArc in IM, I wonder how ESEA would think about that.

Hm, aren't there rules about being on two teams at once? I wonder how ESEA would feel about that

Don't they crack down harder on people who are trying to evade bans?

Curious, I wonder how ESEA will feel about this.
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#506
15 Frags +

eXtine delivering the eXtreme pain...

eXtine delivering the eXtreme pain...
507
#507
9 Frags +
MagnegroeXtine delivering the eXtreme pain...

as eXpected

[quote=Magnegro]eXtine delivering the eXtreme pain...[/quote]
as eXpected
508
#508
7 Frags +
eXtineHm, curiously enough... there is an disciplinary ban on ehk0's ESEA profile that he has going for RedemptionArc in IM, I wonder how ESEA would think about that.

Hm, aren't there rules about being on two teams at once? I wonder how ESEA would feel about that

Don't they crack down harder on people who are trying to evade bans?

Curious, I wonder how ESEA will feel about this.

Sometimes people need to learn a lesson, id prefer to keep toxic/racist people out of this community.

[quote=eXtine]Hm, curiously enough... there is an disciplinary ban on ehk0's ESEA profile that he has going for RedemptionArc in IM, I wonder how ESEA would think about that.

Hm, aren't there rules about being on two teams at once? I wonder how ESEA would feel about that

Don't they crack down harder on people who are trying to evade bans?

Curious, I wonder how ESEA will feel about this.[/quote]
Sometimes people need to learn a lesson, id prefer to keep toxic/racist people out of this community.
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#509
-9 Frags +

The disciplinary ban is on my ESEA account for bad mannering in a match during s29 playoffs where our demo repeatedly lagged out and the other team took the opportunity to exchange ubers during his ping spikes in order to take advantage of it, and ended with us winning the match 2-1. I'm not justifying what I said during that match, but I think it would be understandable as losing 4-3 in playoffs when your hopes for the team are much higher can be extremely disappointing.

I am not using an alternate account to dodge the ban, nor to play on two teams at once. I have not played a match on redemptionarc since the first two weeks of the season, and only remain on the roster because Virgil (who coincidentally was involved in the first disciplinary ban on the other team) was kind enough to pay my ESEA fees for the entire season, and I felt that it would be extremely ungrateful to leave the roster after she kindly spent so much of her own money saving the intermediate division (she paid for like 5 people at least)

As to the username, it was originally a joke in mumble that I planned to just "oh haha this is funny guys ill join the server with a dumb alias and mess with ppl then change it back" and then I totally forgot ESEA has a name change limit and was unable to change my name back afterwards

I fully admit that the joke originally was definitely not appropriate, but the intention is not to be actively hateful towards anyone, just shock comedy. also, the tf.tv post above is not me whatsoever or any account I have ever used

The disciplinary ban is on my ESEA account for bad mannering in a match during s29 playoffs where our demo repeatedly lagged out and the other team took the opportunity to exchange ubers during his ping spikes in order to take advantage of it, and ended with us winning the match 2-1. I'm not justifying what I said during that match, but I think it would be understandable as losing 4-3 in playoffs when your hopes for the team are much higher can be extremely disappointing.

I am not using an alternate account to dodge the ban, nor to play on two teams at once. I have not played a match on redemptionarc since the first two weeks of the season, and only remain on the roster because Virgil (who coincidentally was involved in the first disciplinary ban on the other team) was kind enough to pay my ESEA fees for the entire season, and I felt that it would be extremely ungrateful to leave the roster after she kindly spent so much of her own money saving the intermediate division (she paid for like 5 people at least)

As to the username, it was originally a joke in mumble that I planned to just "oh haha this is funny guys ill join the server with a dumb alias and mess with ppl then change it back" and then I totally forgot ESEA has a name change limit and was unable to change my name back afterwards

I fully admit that the joke originally was definitely not appropriate, but the intention is not to be actively hateful towards anyone, just shock comedy. also, the tf.tv post above is not me whatsoever or any account I have ever used
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#510
0 Frags +

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