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Wow really?
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#91
33 Frags +
MangoesIts not even my team. If my team wants a rematch idcIts not even my team.If my team
[quote=Mangoes]Its not even my team. If my team wants a rematch idc[/quote]

[quote]Its not even my team.[/quote]
[quote]If my team[/quote]
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#92
27 Frags +

"I unpause because I paid esea prem and fees so I could play tf2 6v5"

"I unpause because I paid esea prem and fees so I could play tf2 6v5"
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#93
3 Frags +
MangoesYankeeMangoesWe unpause it there is a time limit of how long you can pause the game which is 5 mins and they used their 2 pauses already we are just following rule from ESEA.
Hahahaha
You should probably read rules. it usually helps

All it takes are the cognitive abilities of a 5 year old to realize how disingenuous that excuse is.

[quote=Mangoes][quote=Yankee][quote=Mangoes]We unpause it there is a time limit of how long you can pause the game which is 5 mins and they used their 2 pauses already [b]we are just following rule from ESEA[/b].[/quote]

Hahahaha[/quote]
You should probably read rules. it usually helps[/quote]

All it takes are the cognitive abilities of a 5 year old to realize how disingenuous that excuse is.
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#94
-1 Frags +

so much tension in this thread, you guys need to have sex more.

so much tension in this thread, you guys need to have sex more.
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#95
16 Frags +
MangoesThere is no point of posting on this thread. This thread is diagnosed with hate bape syndrome when everyone on the community just go full retard. talk all you want BYE

what does any of this even mean, haha

[quote=Mangoes]There is no point of posting on this thread. This thread is diagnosed with hate bape syndrome when everyone on the community just go full retard. talk all you want BYE[/quote]
what does any of this even mean, haha
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#96
5 Frags +

If they rematch, prob gunna be casted and have like a million people watching blacky completely wreck face for a 2nd time???

If they rematch, prob gunna be casted and have like a million people watching blacky completely wreck face for a 2nd time???
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#97
20 Frags +

If they can prove someone intentionally ddos'ed them during a match...the match needs to be replayed or if the opposing team was in on it, disqualify their asses immediately. Not to mention, esea should permanently ban whoever was in on this. That's just fucking pathetic that someone would actually still do something like this.

If they can prove someone intentionally ddos'ed them during a match...the match needs to be replayed or if the opposing team was in on it, disqualify their asses immediately. Not to mention, esea should permanently ban whoever was in on this. That's just fucking pathetic that someone would actually still do something like this.
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#98
32 Frags +

If anyone has a suspicion that they are being DoS'd, open up command prompt and type in netstat -an. It basically shows all connection's to your IP.

This is an image I pulled off another site that's an example of what your netstat might look like during a DoS attack.

http://www.gregthatcher.com/Azure/images/HackerNetStat.PNG

More information: http://www.gregthatcher.com/Azure/Ch2_DetectingDenialOfService.aspx

More indepth info on netstat: http://safesrv.net/server-slow-check-whos-connecting-and-how-many-connections-they-have/

Next time someone suspects this happening to them, please get some evidence to find out exactly what's happening.

If anyone has a suspicion that they are being DoS'd, open up command prompt and type in netstat -an. It basically shows all connection's to your IP.

This is an image I pulled off another site that's an example of what your netstat might look like during a DoS attack.

[img]http://www.gregthatcher.com/Azure/images/HackerNetStat.PNG[/img]

More information: http://www.gregthatcher.com/Azure/Ch2_DetectingDenialOfService.aspx

More indepth info on netstat: http://safesrv.net/server-slow-check-whos-connecting-and-how-many-connections-they-have/


Next time someone suspects this happening to them, please get some [b]evidence[/b] to find out exactly what's happening.
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#99
34 Frags +

The tl;dr for those who just joined us and don't want to read several pages of Toon Gang's idiocy:

TF.TV: We have several teams with circumstantial evidence that Toon Gang is DDoS'ing people to win games. Numerous people have confirmed that their internet went crazy while playing Toon Gang yet was completely fine before and after. Toon Gang, being the white ESEA knights they are, also decided to suddenly start enforcing the "5 minute pause" policy while said victims were struggling to figure out why their modem turned into a potato; using the same excuse that "people had to go to bed".

Toon Gang: l0l u guyz take video gaymes 2 srs. we don evn ddos n3rds

CHECKMATE TF2 COMMUNITY

The tl;dr for those who just joined us and don't want to read several pages of Toon Gang's idiocy:

TF.TV: We have several teams with circumstantial evidence that Toon Gang is DDoS'ing people to win games. [i]Numerous[/i] people have confirmed that their internet went crazy while playing Toon Gang yet was completely fine before and after. Toon Gang, being the white ESEA knights they are, also decided to suddenly start enforcing the "5 minute pause" policy while said victims were struggling to figure out why their modem turned into a potato; using the same excuse that "people had to go to bed".

Toon Gang: l0l u guyz take video gaymes 2 srs. we don evn ddos n3rds

CHECKMATE TF2 COMMUNITY
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#100
3 Frags +

Back To The Top

Exploits & Infractions

time to update this TF2 admins

Back To The Top

Exploits & Infractions

time to update this TF2 admins
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#101
10 Frags +
MR_SLINhey bape why do you need OpenVPN GUI?

http://i.imgur.com/pvIMQD9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pvIMQD9.jpg

http://openvpn.se/

photo courtesy of bambam

In no way am I defending anyone here, but a lot of people use openvpn for their VPN services. Again, I am not saying that he isn't using a vpn for the attacks, I just want to make sure people don't go out on a witchhunt for anyone that uses VPN's

[quote=MR_SLIN]hey bape why do you need OpenVPN GUI?

[img]http://i.imgur.com/pvIMQD9.jpg[/img]
http://i.imgur.com/pvIMQD9.jpg

http://openvpn.se/

photo courtesy of bambam[/quote]

In no way am I defending anyone here, but a lot of people use openvpn for their VPN services. Again, I am not saying that he isn't using a vpn for the attacks, I just want to make sure people don't go out on a witchhunt for anyone that uses VPN's
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#102
16 Frags +
FzeroIn no way am I defending anyone here, but a lot of people use openvpn for their VPN services. Again, I am not saying that he isn't using a vpn for the attacks, I just want to make sure people don't go out on a witchhunt for anyone that uses VPN's

Yeah, he might be using vpn to connect to his workplace network, right?

wait... how old is he?

[quote=Fzero]In no way am I defending anyone here, but a lot of people use openvpn for their VPN services. Again, I am not saying that he isn't using a vpn for the attacks, I just want to make sure people don't go out on a witchhunt for anyone that uses VPN's[/quote]

Yeah, he might be using vpn to connect to his workplace network, right?

wait... how old is he?
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#103
12 Frags +

Toon gang, It's time...for the DIP.

http://i.imgur.com/Gk6oOlI.jpg

Toon gang, It's time...for the DIP.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/Gk6oOlI.jpg[/img]
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#104
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alfunksoFzeroIn no way am I defending anyone here, but a lot of people use openvpn for their VPN services. Again, I am not saying that he isn't using a vpn for the attacks, I just want to make sure people don't go out on a witchhunt for anyone that uses VPN's
Yeah, he might be using vpn to connect to his workplace network, right?

wait... how old is he?

Hey I used a VPN in highschool. My friends and I set it up so we could get past our school internet filter.

[quote=alfunkso][quote=Fzero]In no way am I defending anyone here, but a lot of people use openvpn for their VPN services. Again, I am not saying that he isn't using a vpn for the attacks, I just want to make sure people don't go out on a witchhunt for anyone that uses VPN's[/quote]

Yeah, he might be using vpn to connect to his workplace network, right?

wait... how old is he?[/quote]

Hey I used a VPN in highschool. My friends and I set it up so we could get past our school internet filter.
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#105
4 Frags +
LunacidealfunksoFzeroIn no way am I defending anyone here, but a lot of people use openvpn for their VPN services. Again, I am not saying that he isn't using a vpn for the attacks, I just want to make sure people don't go out on a witchhunt for anyone that uses VPN's
Yeah, he might be using vpn to connect to his workplace network, right?

wait... how old is he?

Hey I used a VPN in highschool. My friends and I set it up so we could get past our school internet filter.

so he plays tf2 in school?

[quote=Lunacide][quote=alfunkso][quote=Fzero]In no way am I defending anyone here, but a lot of people use openvpn for their VPN services. Again, I am not saying that he isn't using a vpn for the attacks, I just want to make sure people don't go out on a witchhunt for anyone that uses VPN's[/quote]

Yeah, he might be using vpn to connect to his workplace network, right?

wait... how old is he?[/quote]

Hey I used a VPN in highschool. My friends and I set it up so we could get past our school internet filter.[/quote]

so he plays tf2 in school?
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#106
20 Frags +
alfunksoFzeroIn no way am I defending anyone here, but a lot of people use openvpn for their VPN services. Again, I am not saying that he isn't using a vpn for the attacks, I just want to make sure people don't go out on a witchhunt for anyone that uses VPN's
Yeah, he might be using vpn to connect to his workplace network, right?

wait... how old is he?

OpenVPN isn't that incriminating honestly, but i know for a fact that bape knows how to ddos because he's asked me if he could test it on me on numerous occations. i was this team's backup during the season and i know that they didn't ddos anybody during our matches but then again i only played 2 of them with this team, it's a very real possibility that bape has stooped this low. Also, do not join bape's mumble if you wish to not be ddos'd nor any server bape has the rcon for...

[quote=alfunkso][quote=Fzero]In no way am I defending anyone here, but a lot of people use openvpn for their VPN services. Again, I am not saying that he isn't using a vpn for the attacks, I just want to make sure people don't go out on a witchhunt for anyone that uses VPN's[/quote]

Yeah, he might be using vpn to connect to his workplace network, right?

wait... how old is he?[/quote]
OpenVPN isn't that incriminating honestly, but i know for a fact that bape knows how to ddos because he's asked me if he could test it on me on numerous occations. i was this team's backup during the season and i know that they didn't ddos anybody during our matches but then again i only played 2 of them with this team, it's a very real possibility that bape has stooped this low. Also, do not join bape's mumble if you wish to not be ddos'd nor any server bape has the rcon for...
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#107
14 Frags +

hey there are lots of legit reasons to use vpns. torrenting being the main one that comes to mind for me. gotta have that privacy.

hey there are lots of legit reasons to use vpns. torrenting being the main one that comes to mind for me. gotta have that privacy.
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#108
24 Frags +

Part of me thinks bape didn't do this because he's actually a cool dude and spends a lot of time trying to get better for someone who would DDoS other people.

Another part reminds me that this isn't the first time we've won thanks to another player having connection issues.

Either way, bape and mangoes are total buttheads about following ESEA rules to the T, ie. our fantastic .reportffw record and pause limit enforcement.

Part of me thinks bape didn't do this because he's actually a cool dude and spends a lot of time trying to get better for someone who would DDoS other people.

Another part reminds me that this isn't the first time we've won thanks to another player having connection issues.

Either way, bape and mangoes are total buttheads about following ESEA rules to the T, ie. our fantastic .reportffw record and pause limit enforcement.
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#109
7 Frags +

synchro, you seem like a pretty level headed dude. it sucks that this happened and that the circumstances seem so incriminating. the reputations of the players on your team lead a lot of people to believe they are capable of being gigantic shitlords, and that sucks for you. if you guys do take this roster further into IM, i would hope that something would change instead of this happening every time you win a game.

best of luck to you guys, i really hope your teammates figure their shit out and do the right thing.

synchro, you seem like a pretty level headed dude. it sucks that this happened and that the circumstances seem so incriminating. the reputations of the players on your team lead a lot of people to believe they are capable of being gigantic shitlords, and that sucks for you. if you guys do take this roster further into IM, i would hope that something would change instead of this happening every time you win a game.

best of luck to you guys, i really hope your teammates figure their shit out and do the right thing.
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#110
12 Frags +

it owns how mangoes edited all his posts but people quoted him anyway

it owns how mangoes edited all his posts but people quoted him anyway
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#111
3 Frags +

I use a VPN to mitigate routing issues. Saying a VPN is incriminating is wrong.

If you are experiencing internet problems on match nights I have the following suggestions:

Petition your ISP for an IP change.

After doing the above, try to mask your ip in public places. Just joining a TF2 server exposes your IP address to the people who run the server. On GameSurge, this means authenticating with authserv and setting your user mode to +x. You might also want to learn how to install and use a VPN for peace of mind. I have done this and only experienced an extra 10ms of latency as a result.

It is extremely hard to figure out where a DDoS attack originates from. Most attackers aren't dumb enough to do it with an IP that exposes them in any way. You might even tell your ISP that you suspect someone is DDoSing you and they can investigate it for you.

I use a VPN to mitigate routing issues. Saying a VPN is incriminating is wrong.

If you are experiencing internet problems on match nights I have the following suggestions:

Petition your ISP for an IP change.

After doing the above, try to mask your ip in public places. Just joining a TF2 server exposes your IP address to the people who run the server. On GameSurge, this means authenticating with authserv and setting your user mode to +x. You might also want to learn how to install and use a VPN for peace of mind. I have done this and only experienced an extra 10ms of latency as a result.

It is extremely hard to figure out where a DDoS attack originates from. Most attackers aren't dumb enough to do it with an IP that exposes them in any way. You might even tell your ISP that you suspect someone is DDoSing you and they can investigate it for you.
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#112
18 Frags +

hey i lost internet 10 minutes before a match against them, what a coinkydink

hey i lost internet 10 minutes before a match against them, what a coinkydink
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#113
1 Frags +
mebI use a VPN to mitigate routing issues. Saying a VPN is incriminating is wrong.

This is what bape used it for several times, his ping would drop a lot when he switched over. You don't really need a VPN to DDoS people, not sure where that idea came from.

[quote=meb]I use a VPN to mitigate routing issues. Saying a VPN is incriminating is wrong.[/quote]
This is what bape used it for several times, his ping would drop a lot when he switched over. You don't really need a VPN to DDoS people, not sure where that idea came from.
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#114
11 Frags +

I have a question. In no way am I defending toon gang or any of its members. Is it possible that "bullet" or one of these other known ddosers is targeting players on the enemy against toon gang without them even knowing. The point would be so that a shitstorm like this would eventually evolve from it. If he wanted to troll the shit out of them or make a shitstorm for fun, simply ddos the enemy team of a team with people known to associate with ddos and shit(bape). It would also explain mangoes idiotic defenses(or maybe hes just an idiot, I dont know him.) Is this a possibility?

AGAIN, NOT DEFENDING TOON GANG OR ANY MEMBERS.

I have a question. In no way am I defending toon gang or any of its members. Is it possible that "bullet" or one of these other known ddosers is targeting players on the enemy against toon gang without them even knowing. The point would be so that a shitstorm like this would eventually evolve from it. If he wanted to troll the shit out of them or make a shitstorm for fun, simply ddos the enemy team of a team with people known to associate with ddos and shit(bape). It would also explain mangoes idiotic defenses(or maybe hes just an idiot, I dont know him.) Is this a possibility?

AGAIN, NOT DEFENDING TOON GANG OR ANY MEMBERS.
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#115
14 Frags +
BroKingSausageAGAIN, NOT DEFENDING TOON GANG OR ANY MEMBERS.

Actually I think that's the bullet defense, as precedented in NATF2 v. bullet.

[quote=BroKingSausage]AGAIN, NOT DEFENDING TOON GANG OR ANY MEMBERS.[/quote]
Actually I think that's the bullet defense, as precedented in NATF2 v. bullet.
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#116
0 Frags +
BroKingSausageIs it possible that "bullet" or one of these other known ddosers is targeting players on the enemy against toon gang without them even knowing.12:03 AM - TWSS: it was bullet
[quote=BroKingSausage]Is it possible that "bullet" or one of these other known ddosers is targeting players on the enemy against toon gang without them even knowing.[/quote]

[quote]12:03 AM - TWSS: it was bullet[/quote]
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#117
2 Frags +
BroKingSausageI have a question. In no way am I defending toon gang or any of its members. Is it possible that "bullet" or one of these other known ddosers is targeting players on the enemy against toon gang without them even knowing. The point would be so that a shitstorm like this would eventually evolve from it. If he wanted to troll the shit out of them or make a shitstorm for fun, simply ddos the enemy team of a team with people known to associate with ddos and shit(bape). It would also explain mangoes idiotic defenses(or maybe hes just an idiot, I dont know him.) Is this a possibility?

AGAIN, NOT DEFENDING TOON GANG OR ANY MEMBERS.

Honestly I would agree with you if it wasn't for mango's really dumb 'trying to be coy and smug while mispelling the entire dictionary while I am at it' defense and bape's claim that he doesn't know how to ddos contradiction with like a dozen people who says he can. If they are just caught in the crossfire, they are doing a piss poor job of defending themselves with what should be a simple and straight-forward argument.

[quote=BroKingSausage]I have a question. In no way am I defending toon gang or any of its members. Is it possible that "bullet" or one of these other known ddosers is targeting players on the enemy against toon gang without them even knowing. The point would be so that a shitstorm like this would eventually evolve from it. If he wanted to troll the shit out of them or make a shitstorm for fun, simply ddos the enemy team of a team with people known to associate with ddos and shit(bape). It would also explain mangoes idiotic defenses(or maybe hes just an idiot, I dont know him.) Is this a possibility?

AGAIN, NOT DEFENDING TOON GANG OR ANY MEMBERS.[/quote]

Honestly I would agree with you if it wasn't for mango's really dumb 'trying to be coy and smug while mispelling the entire dictionary while I am at it' defense and bape's claim that he doesn't know how to ddos contradiction with like a dozen people who says he can. If they are just caught in the crossfire, they are doing a piss poor job of defending themselves with what should be a simple and straight-forward argument.
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#118
RGB LAN
41 Frags +

competitive DDoSing

competitive DDoSing
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#119
3 Frags +
mebIt is extremely hard to figure out where a DDoS attack originates from. Most attackers aren't dumb enough to do it with an IP that exposes them in any way. You might even tell your ISP that you suspect someone is DDoSing you and they can investigate it for you.

that's normally true

EXCEPT

bullet ddosed with an ip that exposed him l0l

but apparently im not allowed to post it on tf.tv so whatevs

[quote=meb]
It is extremely hard to figure out where a DDoS attack originates from. Most attackers aren't dumb enough to do it with an IP that exposes them in any way. You might even tell your ISP that you suspect someone is DDoSing you and they can investigate it for you.[/quote]

that's normally true

EXCEPT

bullet ddosed with an ip that exposed him l0l

but apparently im not allowed to post it on tf.tv so whatevs
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#120
12 Frags +

Everyone just needs to revert back to the original post (if infact this log is true and this TWSS dude isn't lieing)

1) Admitted they knew of the DDoS attack.

2) Admitted they knew who did it.

3) They made no attempts to tell him to stop DDoSing.

4) Motive for the attack is whoever did it "hates brands"/wants brands team to loose.

5) Multiple people have come foward with internet issues when playing this team.

I mean cammon, this kid is basically saying "we are guilty" who gives a shit if it was bape or bullet. I think this log is enough evidence.

Hes basically saying we know who was responsible and we made no attempt to stop it from happening, that's just as incriminating. They could have easily been good sports and informed an ESEA admin or told the other team that they knew what was happening, however they made no attempts to do that. In fact they upheld the ESEA pause rules and limits to the full degree, while this was happening.

He even goes as far as to say "its only logical" that the best player on the opposing team gets DDoSed and not brands himself, he is basically justifying the DDoS attack lol. Which brings into question if it really was bullet doing the ddosing. Logically bullet would DDoS brands not "the best player on their team" if he has beef with him.

I watch to much of the first 48 on A&E.

leakyYou have to DDOS blackymonster to get to IM????
12:02 AM - blackymonster: thanks for the ddoss
12:02 AM - blackymonster: gg
12:03 AM - TWSS: It wasnt us
12:03 AM - TWSS: it was bullet
12:03 AM - TWSS: he hats brands
12:03 AM - TWSS: hates
12:04 AM - blackymonster: and i get ddosseD?
12:05 AM - TWSS: its only logical your the better player and he doesnt want brands to win idk man we dint do it
12:05 AM - blackymonster: right
Everyone just needs to revert back to the original post (if infact this log is true and this TWSS dude isn't lieing)

1) Admitted they knew of the DDoS attack.

2) Admitted they knew who did it.

3) They made no attempts to tell him to stop DDoSing.

4) Motive for the attack is whoever did it "hates brands"/wants brands team to loose.

5) Multiple people have come foward with internet issues when playing this team.

I mean cammon, this kid is basically saying "we are guilty" who gives a shit if it was bape or bullet. I think this log is enough evidence.

Hes basically saying we know who was responsible and we made no attempt to stop it from happening, that's just as incriminating. They could have easily been good sports and informed an ESEA admin or told the other team that they knew what was happening, however they made no attempts to do that. In fact they upheld the ESEA pause rules and limits to the full degree, while this was happening.

He even goes as far as to say "its only logical" that the best player on the opposing team gets DDoSed and not brands himself, he is basically justifying the DDoS attack lol. Which brings into question if it really was bullet doing the ddosing. Logically bullet would DDoS brands not "the best player on their team" if he has beef with him.

I watch to much of the first 48 on A&E.

[quote=leaky]You have to DDOS blackymonster to get to IM????
12:02 AM - blackymonster: thanks for the ddoss
12:02 AM - blackymonster: gg
12:03 AM - TWSS: It wasnt us
12:03 AM - TWSS: it was bullet
12:03 AM - TWSS: he hats brands
12:03 AM - TWSS: hates
12:04 AM - blackymonster: and i get ddosseD?
12:05 AM - TWSS: its only logical your the better player and he doesnt want brands to win idk man we dint do it
12:05 AM - blackymonster: right[/quote]
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