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Hey, i have problems with recording in TF2 to create Fragmovies. Iam using Lawena to to record,Virtual Dub to convert and Vegas Pro 14 to edit the videos.I already upload one Fragvideo(clip), so it worked before.But for some reasons,when i convert my tga files to AVI and drag and drop it in vegas i cant play the video, just the audio is working.iam getting kinda mad because iam not able to fix it.i already deleted Virtual Dub and deinstalled/reinstalled Vegas Pro 14 but its still not working. Help me please x(

Hey, i have problems with recording in TF2 to create Fragmovies. Iam using Lawena to to record,Virtual Dub to convert and Vegas Pro 14 to edit the videos.I already upload one Fragvideo(clip), so it worked before.But for some reasons,when i convert my tga files to AVI and drag and drop it in vegas i cant play the video, just the audio is working.iam getting kinda mad because iam not able to fix it.i already deleted Virtual Dub and deinstalled/reinstalled Vegas Pro 14 but its still not working. Help me please x(
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happens to me too, i just converted all the clips out of .avi using HandBrake

happens to me too, i just converted all the clips out of .avi using [url=https://handbrake.fr/]HandBrake[/url]
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First of all, Virtual Dub is incredibly outdated and slow, and there is a better and faster alternative to it:
https://github.com/AronParker/AviRecorder
No experience with Handbrake, but it seems even more confusing than Adobe products, so get Adobe Media Encoder for encoding.

First of all, Virtual Dub is incredibly outdated and slow, and there is a better and faster alternative to it:
https://github.com/AronParker/AviRecorder
No experience with Handbrake, but it seems even more confusing than Adobe products, so get Adobe Media Encoder for encoding.
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CitroMaindFirst of all, Virtual Dub is incredibly outdated and slow, and there is a better and faster alternative to it:
https://github.com/AronParker/AviRecorder
No experience with Handbrake, but it seems even more confusing than Adobe products, so get Adobe Media Encoder for encoding.

Is the Adobe Media Encoder able, to convert tga/wav files into a avi/mp4/whatever?
Iam using Lawena to record.So you think AviRecorder would be better for that?

[quote=CitroMaind]First of all, Virtual Dub is incredibly outdated and slow, and there is a better and faster alternative to it:
https://github.com/AronParker/AviRecorder
No experience with Handbrake, but it seems even more confusing than Adobe products, so get Adobe Media Encoder for encoding.[/quote]
Is the Adobe Media Encoder able, to convert tga/wav files into a avi/mp4/whatever?
Iam using Lawena to record.So you think AviRecorder would be better for that?
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Use AVIRecorded WHILE youre using lawena to record. It will automatically mash the tga files in a big fat avi file. then use adobe media encoder to encode them to smaller, easier to edit mp4's

Use AVIRecorded WHILE youre using lawena to record. It will automatically mash the tga files in a big fat avi file. then use adobe media encoder to encode them to smaller, easier to edit mp4's
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CitroMaindUse AVIRecorded WHILE youre using lawena to record. It will automatically mash the tga files in a big fat avi file. then use adobe media encoder to encode them to smaller, easier to edit mp4's

Alright i will try that. Thank you

[quote=CitroMaind]Use AVIRecorded WHILE youre using lawena to record. It will automatically mash the tga files in a big fat avi file. then use adobe media encoder to encode them to smaller, easier to edit mp4's[/quote]
Alright i will try that. Thank you
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you should also use a video codec encoder while your avi is being recorded. if youre using avirecorder you can just select one in your recording settings. i highly suggest using lagarith lossless encoder. i forget if it comes with avirecorder but if it doesnt you can get it here https://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html

you should also use a video codec encoder while your avi is being recorded. if youre using avirecorder you can just select one in your recording settings. i highly suggest using lagarith lossless encoder. i forget if it comes with avirecorder but if it doesnt you can get it here https://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html
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The problem with uncompressed .AVI files (which programs like VirtualDub put out) is that they're so incredibly big and qualitative that most normal PCs and editing software are unable to play and edit them smoothly. That's why I would recommend to encode your recorded files to another codec which is easier to handle and edit (also like 1/100 in file size).

I don't use another external program for that though. You can open .TGA sequences directly in Vegas so after recording my clip with lawena I load it into Vegas, encode it to .mp4 so I can use and edit it later on. No VirtualDub or Adobe Media Encoder needed.

If you're not sure what render settings to use hit me up, mine are pretty okay I guess.

The problem with uncompressed .AVI files (which programs like VirtualDub put out) is that they're so incredibly big and qualitative that most normal PCs and editing software are unable to play and edit them smoothly. That's why I would recommend to encode your recorded files to another codec which is easier to handle and edit (also like 1/100 in file size).

I don't use another external program for that though. You can open .TGA sequences directly in Vegas so after recording my clip with lawena I load it into Vegas, encode it to .mp4 so I can use and edit it later on. No VirtualDub or Adobe Media Encoder needed.

If you're not sure what render settings to use hit me up, mine are pretty okay I guess.
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Virtualdub slow?
well sure if you use whatever cccp/klite codec packs gives you as VFW encoders. Setting virtualdub to use external encoders is a bit of a hassle but you can utilize the latest version of x264, your choice of audio, and muxer. It is bound to be faster as long as it is configured properly.

Just saying. Not trying to imply converting TGA + audio to video format is a faster method than directly capturing video.

SourceNick i highly suggest using lagarith lossless encoder.

I'd rather recommend MagicYUV (https://www.magicyuv.com/) or UTvideo (http://umezawa.dyndns.info/archive/utvideo/). Lagarith is a slow lossless encoder. UTvideo is fastest of the bunch. MagicYUV apparently can record in 16bit.

Virtualdub slow?
well sure if you use whatever cccp/klite codec packs gives you as VFW encoders. Setting virtualdub to use external encoders is a bit of a hassle but you can utilize the latest version of x264, your choice of audio, and muxer. It is bound to be faster as long as it is configured properly.

Just saying. Not trying to imply converting TGA + audio to video format is a faster method than directly capturing video.

[quote=SourceNick] i highly suggest using lagarith lossless encoder.[/quote]

I'd rather recommend MagicYUV (https://www.magicyuv.com/) or UTvideo (http://umezawa.dyndns.info/archive/utvideo/). Lagarith is a slow lossless encoder. UTvideo is fastest of the bunch. MagicYUV apparently can record in 16bit.
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TheMackey5The problem with uncompressed .AVI files (which programs like VirtualDub put out) is that they're so incredibly big and qualitative that most normal PCs and editing software are unable to play and edit them smoothly. That's why I would recommend to encode your recorded files to another codec which is easier to handle and edit (also like 1/100 in file size).

I don't use another external program for that though. You can open .TGA sequences directly in Vegas so after recording my clip with lawena I load it into Vegas, encode it to .mp4 so I can use and edit it later on. No VirtualDub or Adobe Media Encoder needed.

If you're not sure what render settings to use hit me up, mine are pretty okay I guess.

Yeah sure tell me your render settings. The problem what i have is, that i already uploaded 1 video and it was kinda like motion blur and not the best quality for some reasons...so iam not sure because i might will loose more quality just by compressing that was the main reason why i used the uncompressed clips and just deleted them later. When you know a solution just go ahead.

[quote=TheMackey5]The problem with uncompressed .AVI files (which programs like VirtualDub put out) is that they're so incredibly big and qualitative that most normal PCs and editing software are unable to play and edit them smoothly. That's why I would recommend to encode your recorded files to another codec which is easier to handle and edit (also like 1/100 in file size).

I don't use another external program for that though. You can open .TGA sequences directly in Vegas so after recording my clip with lawena I load it into Vegas, encode it to .mp4 so I can use and edit it later on. No VirtualDub or Adobe Media Encoder needed.

If you're not sure what render settings to use hit me up, mine are pretty okay I guess.[/quote]
Yeah sure tell me your render settings. The problem what i have is, that i already uploaded 1 video and it was kinda like motion blur and not the best quality for some reasons...so iam not sure because i might will loose more quality just by compressing that was the main reason why i used the uncompressed clips and just deleted them later. When you know a solution just go ahead.
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Vegas Pro 14 ...
kinda like motion blur ...

Vegas still has that resampling option enabled by default? *shivers*

Try the lossless codecs mentioned above. Find whatever decodes fast enough for vegas.

Vegas Pro 14 ...
kinda like motion blur ...

Vegas still has that resampling option enabled by default? *shivers*

Try the lossless codecs mentioned above. Find whatever decodes fast enough for vegas.
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jp_Vegas Pro 14 ...
kinda like motion blur ...

Vegas still has that resampling option enabled by default?

has it? i dont know. how do i disable that?

[quote=jp_]Vegas Pro 14 ...
kinda like motion blur ...



Vegas still has that resampling option enabled by default?[/quote]
has it? i dont know. how do i disable that?
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LemonStarDudehas it? i dont know. how do i disable that?

I don't know... I don't use Vegas anymore.

Google:

http://obengplus.com/artikel/pic/tip/sony-vegas-pro-dummy-hyper-lapse3.jpg

[quote=LemonStarDude]
has it? i dont know. how do i disable that?[/quote]
I don't know... I don't use Vegas anymore.

Google:
[img]http://obengplus.com/artikel/pic/tip/sony-vegas-pro-dummy-hyper-lapse3.jpg[/img]
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jp_LemonStarDudehas it? i dont know. how do i disable that?I don't know... I don't use Vegas anymore.

Google:
http://obengplus.com/artikel/pic/tip/sony-vegas-pro-dummy-hyper-lapse3.jpg

Thank you!

[quote=jp_][quote=LemonStarDude]
has it? i dont know. how do i disable that?[/quote]
I don't know... I don't use Vegas anymore.

Google:
[img]http://obengplus.com/artikel/pic/tip/sony-vegas-pro-dummy-hyper-lapse3.jpg[/img][/quote]
Thank you!
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Yo, like jp_ already said, automatic resampling (which somewhat looks like motion blur) is a really annoying attribute of Vegas. Resampling happenes when the framerate of the source doesn't match with the output of the project. So what Vegas actually tries to do is to adjust and overlap both of these. If the actual movement in the project is actually slow it might look more smooth. But when fast movement occures (which TF2 is basically all about) it looks like frames are somewhat overlapping themselves. This is not what you want to achive.

So like jp_ already said you should disable resampling like this. There is no option to set this by default but you can actually select any video-event at once and change it simultaneously.

Se yeah, my render settings are these:

MainConcept AVC/AAC (*.mp4;*avc),
this: http://imgur.com/a/dBi6q
also this: http://imgur.com/a/3Aj6l

My Vegas is in german but since you got the same nationality I guess you'll understand.

If ther're still questions or if anyone of you has better solutions please let us know.

Yo, like jp_ already said, automatic resampling (which somewhat looks like motion blur) is a really annoying attribute of Vegas. Resampling happenes when the framerate of the source doesn't match with the output of the project. So what Vegas actually tries to do is to adjust and overlap both of these. If the actual movement in the project is actually slow it might look more smooth. But when fast movement occures (which TF2 is basically all about) it looks like frames are somewhat overlapping themselves. This is not what you want to achive.

So [url=http://obengplus.com/artikel/pic/tip/sony-vegas-pro-dummy-hyper-lapse3.jpg] like jp_ already said [/url] you should disable resampling like this. There is no option to set this by default but you can actually select any video-event at once and change it simultaneously.

Se yeah, my render settings are these:

MainConcept AVC/AAC (*.mp4;*avc),
this: [url=http://imgur.com/a/dBi6q] http://imgur.com/a/dBi6q [/url]
also this: [url=http://imgur.com/a/3Aj6l] http://imgur.com/a/3Aj6l [/url]

My Vegas is in german but since you got the same nationality I guess you'll understand.

If ther're still questions or if anyone of you has better solutions please let us know.
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