Hey, I just built a new computer a few days ago and it has way better specs than my older computer, but I can't get anywhere near the same frames I used to have on the older rig.
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CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($8.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($210.42 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($225.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.96 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.96 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($684.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 780T ATX Full Tower Case ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($115.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.05 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($129.95 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer XB241H bmipr 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($420.36 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Zowie FK1 Wired Optical Mouse
Other: Razer Overwatch Goliathus Extended SPEED Soft Gaming Mouse Mat - Mouse Pad of Professional Gamers ($35.00)
Other: Logitech Z623 200 Watt Home Speaker System, 2.1 Speaker System (Black) ($149.99)
Other: Elgato Game Capture HD60 Pro, stream and record in 1080p60, superior low latency technology, H.264 hardware encoding, PCIe ($200.00)
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-14 04:02 EST-0500 I know TF2 doesn't have the best optimization, but I don't think I should have such a reduction in performance for not playing since June/July.. I used to get above 80 frames almost all the time while 720p/60fps streaming on the older rig and now I drop to 60 fps with the new rig, could my old FPS config be causing the drop or something? I've overclocked my newer rig to 4.2GHz, but the older rig wasn't even OC'd lol
I was planning to make my older computer into a streambox until it just decided to die, which is why I haven't been able to play for so long.
Hey, I just built a new computer a few days ago and it has way better specs than my older computer, but I can't get anywhere near the same frames I used to have on the older rig.
I went from this:
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[b]CPU:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yT2kcf/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770k]Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($403.07 @ Amazon)
[b]Thermal Compound:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6RrG3C/arctic-silver-thermal-paste-as535g]Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste[/url] ($8.89 @ Amazon)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/s4xfrH/asus-motherboard-sabertoothz87]Asus Sabertooth Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url]
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NdkD4D/corsair-memory-cml16gx3m2a1600c10]Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($92.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YmMFf7/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256m4ssd2]Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url]
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gwBv6h/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st3000dm001]Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($91.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RtMFf7/evga-video-card-02gp42774kr]EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card[/url]
[b]Case:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NTyFf7/nzxt-case-phan002gr]NZXT Phantom (Black/Green) ATX Full Tower Case[/url] ($114.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LxMFf7/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu850ax]Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url]
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2v9KHx/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas]Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($19.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BVvRsY/microsoft-os-gfc02050]Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 OEM 64-bit[/url]
[b]Wireless Network Adapter:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YM9KHx/rosewill-wireless-network-card-rnxn180ube]Rosewill RNX-N180UBE USB 2.0 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter[/url] ($29.52 @ Amazon)
[b]Speakers:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/svBv6h/logitech-speakers-980000402]Logitech Z623 200W 2.1ch Speakers[/url] ($122.54 @ Amazon)
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[b]CPU:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tdmxFT/intel-cpu-bx80662i76700k]Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($339.99 @ Newegg)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wjmLrH/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhu12s]Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] ($59.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Thermal Compound:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6RrG3C/arctic-silver-thermal-paste-as535g]Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste[/url] ($8.89 @ Amazon)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3n7CmG/msi-motherboard-z170agamingm7]MSI Z170A GAMING M7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] ($210.42 @ Amazon)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4vWrxr/gskill-memory-f42400c15d16gvr]G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory[/url] ($94.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v3fp99/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7ke512bw]Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($225.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxMFf7/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-0f10452]Hitachi Ultrastar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($73.96 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxMFf7/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-0f10452]Hitachi Ultrastar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($73.96 @ Amazon)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bNcMnQ/evga-video-card-08gp46286]EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card[/url] ($684.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vj4NnQ/corsair-case-cc9011059ww]Corsair 780T ATX Full Tower Case[/url] ($189.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LCfp99/evga-power-supply-220g20850xr]EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($115.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QZ6BD3/lg-optical-drive-wh16ns40]LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($59.05 @ Amazon)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930]Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit[/url] ($129.95 @ Amazon)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HPX2FT/acer-monitor-xb241hbmipr]Acer XB241H bmipr 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor[/url] ($420.36 @ Amazon)
[b]Mouse:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zhsKHx/zowie-mouse-fk1]Zowie FK1 Wired Optical Mouse[/url]
[b]Other:[/b] Razer Overwatch Goliathus Extended SPEED Soft Gaming Mouse Mat - Mouse Pad of Professional Gamers ($35.00)
[b]Other:[/b] Logitech Z623 200 Watt Home Speaker System, 2.1 Speaker System (Black) ($149.99)
[b]Other:[/b] Elgato Game Capture HD60 Pro, stream and record in 1080p60, superior low latency technology, H.264 hardware encoding, PCIe ($200.00)
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I know TF2 doesn't have the best optimization, but I don't think I should have such a reduction in performance for not playing since June/July.. I used to get above 80 frames almost all the time while 720p/60fps streaming on the older rig and now I drop to 60 fps with the new rig, could my old FPS config be causing the drop or something? I've overclocked my newer rig to 4.2GHz, but the older rig wasn't even OC'd lol
I was planning to make my older computer into a streambox until it just decided to die, which is why I haven't been able to play for so long.
Foxway better specs
FoxI went from this:
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 OEM 64-bit
to this:
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit
[quote=Fox]way better specs[/quote]
[quote=Fox]
I went from this:
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BVvRsY/microsoft-os-gfc02050]Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 OEM 64-bit[/url]
to this:
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930]Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit[/url]
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CoYoTe could that really be the problem or are you just doing a windows 10 meme?
CoYoTe could that really be the problem or are you just doing a windows 10 meme?
make sure your monitor is plugged to the GPU instead of the motherboard
make sure your monitor is plugged to the GPU instead of the motherboard
Anecdotally I got more fps using max graphics settings than chris or comanglia configs after the gun mettle update.
If you're doing a full "factory" reset of all your tf2 settings make sure to disable steam cloud if you have that enabled, in my experience it can interfere with some of the config files.
Happy testing.
Anecdotally I got more fps using max graphics settings than chris or comanglia configs after the gun mettle update.
If you're doing a full "factory" reset of all your tf2 settings make sure to disable steam cloud if you have that enabled, in my experience it can interfere with some of the config files.
Happy testing.
Screwballhes meming
fr3fouI've been thinking of upgrading to Windows 10 and was wondering does tf2 run better/worse on that OS.
damneasyRan worse for me, cpu/gpu: i7-4770k, gtx 770
and ran worse for me.
(half meme :)
[quote=Screwball]hes meming[/quote]
[quote=fr3fou]I've been thinking of upgrading to Windows 10 and was wondering does tf2 run better/worse on that OS.[/quote]
[quote=damneasy]Ran worse for me, cpu/gpu: i7-4770k, gtx 770[/quote]
and ran worse for me.
(half meme :)
Windows 10 can do weird things.
Maybe your capture card is shit. (Hint: all capture cards are shit)
Very good choice of thermal paste, it's worse than the one the NH-U12S comes with. Wouldn't want the CPU to run too cool.
I also congratulate you on overclocking a CPU that runs at 4.2 GHz to 4.2 GHz.
Windows 10 can do weird things.
Maybe your capture card is shit. (Hint: all capture cards are shit)
Very good choice of thermal paste, it's worse than the one the NH-U12S comes with. Wouldn't want the CPU to run too cool.
I also congratulate you on overclocking a CPU that runs at 4.2 GHz to 4.2 GHz.
CoYoTeScrewballhes meming
fr3fouI've been thinking of upgrading to Windows 10 and was wondering does tf2 run better/worse on that OS.
damneasyRan worse for me, cpu/gpu: i7-4770k, gtx 770
and ran worse for me.
(half meme :)
it actually runs fine now
[quote=CoYoTe][quote=Screwball]hes meming[/quote]
[quote=fr3fou]I've been thinking of upgrading to Windows 10 and was wondering does tf2 run better/worse on that OS.[/quote]
[quote=damneasy]Ran worse for me, cpu/gpu: i7-4770k, gtx 770[/quote]
and ran worse for me.
(half meme :)[/quote]
it actually runs fine now
SetsulWindows 10 can do weird things.
Maybe your capture card is shit. (Hint: all capture cards are shit)
Very good choice of thermal paste, it's worse than the one the NH-U12S comes with. Wouldn't want the CPU to run too cool.
I also congratulate you on overclocking a CPU that runs at 4.2 GHz to 4.2 GHz.
geez
i'm not running tf2 through my capture card, it's for ps4/iOS capturing, i didn't even know the noctua paste came with the fan tbh
the cpu is at base at 4.0, i don't ever overclock things and i upped the voltage so it stays at 4.2? i don't understand why your post is so antagonistic towards me lol
[quote=Setsul]Windows 10 can do weird things.
Maybe your capture card is shit. (Hint: all capture cards are shit)
Very good choice of thermal paste, it's worse than the one the NH-U12S comes with. Wouldn't want the CPU to run too cool.
I also congratulate you on overclocking a CPU that runs at 4.2 GHz to 4.2 GHz.[/quote]
geez
i'm not running tf2 through my capture card, it's for ps4/iOS capturing, i didn't even know the noctua paste came with the fan tbh
the cpu is at base at 4.0, i don't ever overclock things and i upped the voltage so it stays at 4.2? i don't understand why your post is so antagonistic towards me lol
Make sure to delete the Xbox app/disable game DVR if you haven't already.
Make sure to [url=https://www.404techsupport.com/2015/08/input-games-windows-10/]delete the Xbox app/disable game DVR[/url] if you haven't already.
Foxthe cpu is at base at 4.0, i don't ever overclock things and i upped the voltage so it stays at 4.2?
That's not how it works, depending on how much you upped the voltage you're either just producing useless heat or killing your CPU.
There are just too many things wrong with this build to list right now.
I have no idea what else you've done wrong.
The only thing I can recommend is checking how many fps you're getting now with your old pc.
[quote=Fox]
the cpu is at base at 4.0, i don't ever overclock things and i upped the voltage so it stays at 4.2?[/quote]
That's not how it works, depending on how much you upped the voltage you're either just producing useless heat or killing your CPU.
There are just too many things wrong with this build to list right now.
I have no idea what else you've done wrong.
The only thing I can recommend is checking how many fps you're getting now with your old pc.
FoxSetsulWindows 10 can do weird things.
Maybe your capture card is shit. (Hint: all capture cards are shit)
Very good choice of thermal paste, it's worse than the one the NH-U12S comes with. Wouldn't want the CPU to run too cool.
I also congratulate you on overclocking a CPU that runs at 4.2 GHz to 4.2 GHz.
geez
i'm not running tf2 through my capture card, it's for ps4/iOS capturing, i didn't even know the noctua paste came with the fan tbh
the cpu is at base at 4.0, i don't ever overclock things and i upped the voltage so it stays at 4.2? i don't understand why your post is so antagonistic towards me lol
Your CPU has a baseclock of 100MHz and a base multiplier of 40, resulting in 4.0GHz. When your CPU is put under load, it will turbo to 4.2GHz, out of the box. On Skylake, you can make this turbo number go up higher by increasing the boost multiplier. If you just increase the voltage without doing anything else, you're literally just making your CPU run hotter. The only reason you increase the voltage is that when you raise the boost multiplier above stock(42, for a turbo boosted clock of 4.2GHz), your processor will start producing errors because the tiny parts in it won't switch on/off fast enough before the next cycle.
Think of it as a car assembly line where the parts aren't fed to the robots quick enough, and some parts will still be missing before the car automatically moves on to the next station. You'll have to make the feed lines run quicker to keep up or you'll end up with a mess of a car at the end. Want to make cars quicker(higher clock speed)? You need more parts faster(higher voltage). If you ask too much of your assembly feed lines, parts will fly off and damage your factory(overheating of the CPU).
So what you should be doing is raising the boost multiplier and then gradually giving the CPU more voltage if it doesn't run stabile. Raising the voltage alone is useless because your CPU is already running at 4.2GHz whenever necessary, temperatures permitting. Look up a Skylake overclocking guide before you do this.
[quote=Fox][quote=Setsul]Windows 10 can do weird things.
Maybe your capture card is shit. (Hint: all capture cards are shit)
Very good choice of thermal paste, it's worse than the one the NH-U12S comes with. Wouldn't want the CPU to run too cool.
I also congratulate you on overclocking a CPU that runs at 4.2 GHz to 4.2 GHz.[/quote]
geez
i'm not running tf2 through my capture card, it's for ps4/iOS capturing, i didn't even know the noctua paste came with the fan tbh
the cpu is at base at 4.0, i don't ever overclock things and i upped the voltage so it stays at 4.2? i don't understand why your post is so antagonistic towards me lol[/quote]Your CPU has a baseclock of 100MHz and a base multiplier of 40, resulting in 4.0GHz. When your CPU is put under load, it will turbo to 4.2GHz, out of the box. On Skylake, you can make this turbo number go up higher by increasing the boost multiplier. If you just increase the voltage without doing anything else, you're literally just making your CPU run hotter. The only reason you increase the voltage is that when you raise the boost multiplier above stock(42, for a turbo boosted clock of 4.2GHz), your processor will start producing errors because the tiny parts in it won't switch on/off fast enough before the next cycle.
Think of it as a car assembly line where the parts aren't fed to the robots quick enough, and some parts will still be missing before the car automatically moves on to the next station. You'll have to make the feed lines run quicker to keep up or you'll end up with a mess of a car at the end. Want to make cars quicker(higher clock speed)? You need more parts faster(higher voltage). If you ask too much of your assembly feed lines, parts will fly off and damage your factory(overheating of the CPU).
So what you should be doing is raising the boost multiplier and then gradually giving the CPU more voltage if it doesn't run stabile. Raising the voltage alone is useless because your CPU is already running at 4.2GHz whenever necessary, temperatures permitting. Look up a Skylake overclocking guide before you do this.
So how much fps are you getting on your old pc? To make sure it's not just TF2 updates killing fps again.
Do what #14 said, it's one of the numerous weird things windows 10 does.
Also check temps because depending on how high you set the voltage, how well you applied the thermal paste and how fast the case fans are running you might've managed to make the 6700K throttle down to lower clocks.
#16
I don't think that analogy works that well.
My own analogy:
You want steaks.
They usually take 3 minutes.
You want them to be done faster this time.
You put more charcoal on the grill.
You leave the steaks on it for 3 minutes anyway.
Now you have burnt steaks.
I'm hungry, send steaks.
So how much fps are you getting on your old pc? To make sure it's not just TF2 updates killing fps again.
Do what #14 said, it's one of the numerous weird things windows 10 does.
Also check temps because depending on how high you set the voltage, how well you applied the thermal paste and how fast the case fans are running you might've managed to make the 6700K throttle down to lower clocks.
#16
I don't think that analogy works that well.
My own analogy:
You want steaks.
They usually take 3 minutes.
You want them to be done faster this time.
You put more charcoal on the grill.
You leave the steaks on it for 3 minutes anyway.
Now you have burnt steaks.
I'm hungry, send steaks.
SetsulYou want steaks.
They usually take 3 minutes.
You want them to be done faster this time.
You put more charcoal on the grill.
You leave the steaks on it for 3 minutes anyway.
Now you have burnt steaks.
I'm hungry, send steaks.
Intel has obviously been working hard on foolproofing this by building a sous-vide cooker into Kaby Lake so the chips always stay at the perfect target temperature and not a degree higher. Zip-lock bags not included.
[quote=Setsul]You want steaks.
They usually take 3 minutes.
You want them to be done faster this time.
You put more charcoal on the grill.
You leave the steaks on it for 3 minutes anyway.
Now you have burnt steaks.
I'm hungry, send steaks.[/quote]
Intel has obviously been working hard on foolproofing this by building a sous-vide cooker into Kaby Lake so the chips always stay at the perfect target temperature and not a degree higher. Zip-lock bags not included.