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#181
8 Frags +

not to egg on the political discussion but i just want to say that not voting is probably the worst thing you can do. yeah hillary and trump are both stupid choices but not voting is like saying "i dont care which one of them wins". if you really think neither of them should win, then vote against them, and vote third party. even if third party is seemingly pointless, at least you are saying "i think somebody that isnt hillary or trump should be president", and that is a lot better than "sure let one of those two fuckheads win". hell, even write in your vote for mickey mouse, he gets plenty of votes every election.

this image is very appropriate: https://techofcomm.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/vote-2.jpg

not to egg on the political discussion but i just want to say that not voting is probably the worst thing you can do. yeah hillary and trump are both stupid choices but not voting is like saying "i dont care which one of them wins". if you really think neither of them should win, then vote against them, and vote third party. even if third party is seemingly pointless, at least you are saying "i think somebody that isnt hillary or trump should be president", and that is a lot better than "sure let one of those two fuckheads win". hell, even write in your vote for mickey mouse, he gets plenty of votes every election.

this image is very appropriate: https://techofcomm.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/vote-2.jpg
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#182
1 Frags +
retrogradei cant get better at tf2 no matter how hard i work and i feel like im even getting worse. i have a spot on a plat highlander team but feel like i dont deserve it and keep seeing myself drop further out of the skill level i used to be at.

i get good grades in school but could be working a lot harder, and it makes me mad at myself that im not doing more, but when i do i just do worse and it gets hard to justify.

i feel like im losing friends irl and even when hanging out with people i feel like im on the outside, trying to be with them instead of them wanting to be with me.

im becoming a worse person because of tf2 and while i am actively trying to stop i always end up thinking that the horrible person that comes up every so often is who i really am which makes me feel worse.

e: oh ya im also a completely uninteresting person

i mean usually I joke around saying tf2 > life, but im just joking. you should prioritize your life choices over a cartoon shooter from 2007 on the source engine

[quote=retrograde]i cant get better at tf2 no matter how hard i work and i feel like im even getting worse. i have a spot on a plat highlander team but feel like i dont deserve it and keep seeing myself drop further out of the skill level i used to be at.

i get good grades in school but could be working a lot harder, and it makes me mad at myself that im not doing more, but when i do i just do worse and it gets hard to justify.

i feel like im losing friends irl and even when hanging out with people i feel like im on the outside, trying to be with them instead of them wanting to be with me.

im becoming a worse person because of tf2 and while i am actively trying to stop i always end up thinking that the horrible person that comes up every so often is who i really am which makes me feel worse.

e: oh ya im also a completely uninteresting person[/quote]
i mean usually I joke around saying tf2 > life, but im just joking. you should prioritize your life choices over a cartoon shooter from 2007 on the source engine
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#183
-4 Frags +
ILLEGALELEPHANTGUNnot to egg on the political discussion but i just want to say that not voting is probably the worst thing you can do. yeah hillary and trump are both stupid choices but not voting is like saying "i dont care which one of them wins". if you really think neither of them should win, then vote against them, and vote third party. even if third party is seemingly pointless, at least you are saying "i think somebody that isnt hillary or trump should be president", and that is a lot better than "sure let one of those two fuckheads win". hell, even write in your vote for mickey mouse, he gets plenty of votes every election.

this image is very appropriate: https://techofcomm.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/vote-2.jpg

Not voting is stupid but if the majority in your election area has voted for the opposition you're better off staying home. Also your vote doesn't have a large impact on the outcome of the election. It's the electoral college who decides who becomes president. You're simply telling them who you want them to vote for. Also the electoral college doesn't have to vote for who the people they're representing want them to. They can vote for whoever technically. And this has happened before but hasn't made a specific impact on the outcome on the election.

CGP Grey explains this way better than me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUS9mM8Xbbw

[quote=ILLEGALELEPHANTGUN]not to egg on the political discussion but i just want to say that not voting is probably the worst thing you can do. yeah hillary and trump are both stupid choices but not voting is like saying "i dont care which one of them wins". if you really think neither of them should win, then vote against them, and vote third party. even if third party is seemingly pointless, at least you are saying "i think somebody that isnt hillary or trump should be president", and that is a lot better than "sure let one of those two fuckheads win". hell, even write in your vote for mickey mouse, he gets plenty of votes every election.

this image is very appropriate: https://techofcomm.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/vote-2.jpg[/quote]
Not voting is stupid but if the majority in your election area has voted for the opposition you're better off staying home. Also your vote doesn't have a large impact on the outcome of the election. It's the electoral college who decides who becomes president. You're simply telling them who you want them to vote for. Also the electoral college doesn't have to vote for who the people they're representing want them to. They can vote for whoever technically. And this has happened before but hasn't made a specific impact on the outcome on the election.

CGP Grey explains this way better than me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUS9mM8Xbbw
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#184
0 Frags +
wjust started working again like a month ago and management treats me like im subhuman. they always whistle at me and say one word commands like "come" or "eat" while pointing towards the breakfast room like im a dog.. (i dont think i ever heard them call me by my name when i say their's all the time)

everytime i ask them something they pause for a good 10 sec and just give me a disgusted look. there were some lowkey racism here and there but i didnt really want to overreact. they make me buy them coffee out of my own pocket even though i receive less than minimum wage (late pay cheque by a week). when i asked them for my pay stub, they hide from me the entire week

stuff like this really wears down my confidence about myself as a human being.my coworkers and customers on the other hand have been very pleasant and i get along with them really well

sorry for the rant i usually dont get stuff like this off my chest that often. i have that problem where i just hold stuff in

whoa cmon, this whole thread is here for getting stuff of your chest, no need to apologize. im glad you are taking part. as for your situation, if you havent already started looking elsewhere for work, do that. minimum wage is bullshit and there are jobs out there that are entry level that pay more than minimum wage. where i live, minimum wage is a little under $9/hr and i know of a few places with entry level positions paying $11/hr. you have to look around more. think about what is nearby and apply to everything. craigslist is also great for finding work, you just have to go thru about 10 pages of ads but it is well worth it. the job i have now doing construction was found on craigslist, as was my previous job working on a farm.

charisfuspeaking from experience, getting out more helps in general. people irl (at least every state ive been to) are generally pretty nice and welcoming if you give off positive vibes. learning how to talk to people respectfully and without memes is one of the best skills you can learn. learn to talk to people in a way that is respectful, not awkward, and makes them feel good; people love it when you kiss their ass, whether they know it or not. every person who is good at socializing was once shit at socializing, nobody is born with it, thats why people say 'fake it till you make it'. exist in an uncomfortuable situation until it becomes your comfort zone. don't be afraid to get out there and feel awkward and out of place.

when i was in highschool i was a prisoner of my own thoughts. i always assumed people thought the worst of me. do you ever wonder if your friends don't actually enjoy your presence, but tolerate it? you can't allow yourself to tell yourself what is reality and what isn't. you can't hold court in your head, assuming what people are thinking about you is always true, trying to read their alterior motives. the reality is, most people are often thinking about themselves, with their own worries, problems and insecurities. everyone's life is a movie to them, and the rest of us are supporting actors. everyone has value to this earth, and we're all here for a reason, so be nicer to yourself in general.

i wanted to highlight what you said because it is powerful and applicable to a lot of people here, and i can vouch for what you are saying. if anyone is self conscious, feels awkward, doesnt know how to socialize, please read and let these words sink in for a while. getting outside regularly and socializing with strangers is healthy, and its going to help you a lot to have those kinds of social skills/comfortable with unknowns as you age.

[quote=w]just started working again like a month ago and management treats me like im subhuman. they always whistle at me and say one word commands like "come" or "eat" while pointing towards the breakfast room like im a dog.. (i dont think i ever heard them call me by my name when i say their's all the time)

everytime i ask them something they pause for a good 10 sec and just give me a disgusted look. there were some lowkey racism here and there but i didnt really want to overreact. they make me buy them coffee out of my own pocket even though i receive less than minimum wage (late pay cheque by a week). when i asked them for my pay stub, they hide from me the entire week

stuff like this really wears down my confidence about myself as a human being.my coworkers and customers on the other hand have been very pleasant and i get along with them really well

sorry for the rant i usually dont get stuff like this off my chest that often. i have that problem where i just hold stuff in[/quote]
whoa cmon, this whole thread is here for getting stuff of your chest, no need to apologize. im glad you are taking part. as for your situation, if you havent already started looking elsewhere for work, do that. minimum wage is bullshit and there are jobs out there that are entry level that pay more than minimum wage. where i live, minimum wage is a little under $9/hr and i know of a few places with entry level positions paying $11/hr. you have to look around more. think about what is nearby and apply to everything. craigslist is also great for finding work, you just have to go thru about 10 pages of ads but it is well worth it. the job i have now doing construction was found on craigslist, as was my previous job working on a farm.

[quote=charisfu]
speaking from experience, getting out more helps in general. people irl (at least every state ive been to) are generally pretty nice and welcoming if you give off positive vibes. learning how to talk to people respectfully and without memes is one of the best skills you can learn. learn to talk to people in a way that is respectful, not awkward, and makes them feel good; people love it when you kiss their ass, whether they know it or not. every person who is good at socializing was once shit at socializing, nobody is born with it, thats why people say 'fake it till you make it'. exist in an uncomfortuable situation until it becomes your comfort zone. don't be afraid to get out there and feel awkward and out of place.

when i was in highschool i was a prisoner of my own thoughts. i always assumed people thought the worst of me. do you ever wonder if your friends don't actually enjoy your presence, but [b]tolerate[/b] it? you can't allow yourself to tell yourself what is reality and what isn't. you can't hold court in your head, assuming what people are thinking about you is always true, trying to read their alterior motives. the reality is, most people are often thinking about themselves, with their own worries, problems and insecurities. everyone's life is a movie to them, and the rest of us are supporting actors. everyone has value to this earth, and we're all here for a reason, so be nicer to yourself in general.[/quote]
i wanted to highlight what you said because it is powerful and applicable to a lot of people here, and i can vouch for what you are saying. if anyone is self conscious, feels awkward, doesnt know how to socialize, please read and let these words sink in for a while. getting outside regularly and socializing with strangers is healthy, and its going to help you a lot to have those kinds of social skills/comfortable with unknowns as you age.
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#185
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JewJubesNot voting is stupid but if the majority in your election area has voted for the opposition you're better off staying home. Also your vote doesn't have a large impact on the outcome of the election. It's the electoral college who decides who becomes president. You're simply telling them who you want them to vote for. Also the electoral college doesn't have to vote for who the people they're representing want them to. They can vote for whoever technically. And this has happened before but hasn't made a specific impact on the outcome on the election.

CGP Grey explains this way better than me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUS9mM8Xbbw
loocorijnainstead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote!
[quote=JewJubes]
Not voting is stupid but if the majority in your election area has voted for the opposition you're better off staying home. Also your vote doesn't have a large impact on the outcome of the election. It's the electoral college who decides who becomes president. You're simply telling them who you want them to vote for. Also the electoral college doesn't have to vote for who the people they're representing want them to. They can vote for whoever technically. And this has happened before but hasn't made a specific impact on the outcome on the election.

CGP Grey explains this way better than me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUS9mM8Xbbw[/quote]
[quote=loocorijna]
instead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote![/quote]
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#186
4 Frags +

I know this thread has been pretty much about people struggling with some part of their life (or just the whole thing), but ILLEGALELEPHANTGUN said it was for pretty much any feeling you wanna get out so I just wanna say that I was super nervous about starting college but it has honestly been awesome. I'm really enjoying myself and I'm happy with life. The few months before I had been doubting a lot of stuff about me and in my life but I feel like I'm figuring myself out more and becoming much more comfortable with myself and the people around me. Best of luck to everyone else out there!

I know this thread has been pretty much about people struggling with some part of their life (or just the whole thing), but ILLEGALELEPHANTGUN said it was for pretty much any feeling you wanna get out so I just wanna say that I was super nervous about starting college but it has honestly been awesome. I'm really enjoying myself and I'm happy with life. The few months before I had been doubting a lot of stuff about me and in my life but I feel like I'm figuring myself out more and becoming much more comfortable with myself and the people around me. Best of luck to everyone else out there!
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#187
10 Frags +

I played too much tf2 in my youth (12-14) so now I have poor social skills

I played too much tf2 in my youth (12-14) so now I have poor social skills
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#188
marketplace.tf
-3 Frags +
loocorijnaGeel9fade-are you legitimately saying that hillary is a better option than trump?

or gary johnson? or jill stein?

you cannot legitimately convince me that any of those would be better than trump, especially taking into account hillary's corruption and past, gary johnson's support of the TPP, and the fact that jill stein is straight up nuts

lol dude

you can point out how stupid the conservative platform is without promoting hillary

that said Trump would be worse than Hillary, but Hillary is also a godawful option for the presidency. I'm just not voting. Fuck it.
instead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote!

the problem is neither of the main third parties deserve my vote either. Gary Johnson is for privatizing way too many things, and Jill Stein has a dubious record regarding vaccinations.

[quote=loocorijna][quote=Geel9][quote=fade-]are you legitimately saying that hillary is a better option than trump?

or gary johnson? or jill stein?

you cannot legitimately convince me that any of those would be better than trump, especially taking into account hillary's corruption and past, gary johnson's support of the TPP, and the fact that jill stein is straight up nuts[/quote]

lol dude

you can point out how stupid the conservative platform is without promoting hillary

that said Trump would be worse than Hillary, but Hillary is also a godawful option for the presidency. I'm just not voting. Fuck it.[/quote]
instead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote![/quote]

the problem is neither of the main third parties deserve my vote either. Gary Johnson is for privatizing way too many things, and Jill Stein has a dubious record regarding vaccinations.
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#189
0 Frags +
Geel9loocorijnaGeel9fade-are you legitimately saying that hillary is a better option than trump?

or gary johnson? or jill stein?

you cannot legitimately convince me that any of those would be better than trump, especially taking into account hillary's corruption and past, gary johnson's support of the TPP, and the fact that jill stein is straight up nuts

lol dude

you can point out how stupid the conservative platform is without promoting hillary

that said Trump would be worse than Hillary, but Hillary is also a godawful option for the presidency. I'm just not voting. Fuck it.
instead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote!

the problem is neither of the main third parties deserve my vote either. Gary Johnson is for privatizing way too many things, and Jill Stein has a dubious record regarding vaccinations.

Jill Stein is completely in support of vaccinations. the entire idea that she was anti-vax came from people who misconstrued something she said about keeping big pharma away from regulatory agencies.
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/766410502792544256

[quote=Geel9][quote=loocorijna][quote=Geel9][quote=fade-]are you legitimately saying that hillary is a better option than trump?

or gary johnson? or jill stein?

you cannot legitimately convince me that any of those would be better than trump, especially taking into account hillary's corruption and past, gary johnson's support of the TPP, and the fact that jill stein is straight up nuts[/quote]

lol dude

you can point out how stupid the conservative platform is without promoting hillary

that said Trump would be worse than Hillary, but Hillary is also a godawful option for the presidency. I'm just not voting. Fuck it.[/quote]
instead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote![/quote]

the problem is neither of the main third parties deserve my vote either. Gary Johnson is for privatizing way too many things, and Jill Stein has a dubious record regarding vaccinations.[/quote]
Jill Stein is completely in support of vaccinations. the entire idea that she was anti-vax came from people who misconstrued something she said about keeping big pharma away from regulatory agencies.
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/766410502792544256
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#190
marketplace.tf
-4 Frags +
loocorijnaGeel9loocorijnaGeel9fade-are you legitimately saying that hillary is a better option than trump?

or gary johnson? or jill stein?

you cannot legitimately convince me that any of those would be better than trump, especially taking into account hillary's corruption and past, gary johnson's support of the TPP, and the fact that jill stein is straight up nuts

lol dude

you can point out how stupid the conservative platform is without promoting hillary

that said Trump would be worse than Hillary, but Hillary is also a godawful option for the presidency. I'm just not voting. Fuck it.
instead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote!

the problem is neither of the main third parties deserve my vote either. Gary Johnson is for privatizing way too many things, and Jill Stein has a dubious record regarding vaccinations.
Jill Stein is completely in support of vaccinations. the entire idea that she was anti-vax came from people who misconstrued something she said about keeping big pharma away from regulatory agencies.
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/766410502792544256

That's definitely encouraging. Can you provide me with a clear, concise list of her major policies and what she wants to do as president?

[quote=loocorijna][quote=Geel9][quote=loocorijna][quote=Geel9][quote=fade-]are you legitimately saying that hillary is a better option than trump?

or gary johnson? or jill stein?

you cannot legitimately convince me that any of those would be better than trump, especially taking into account hillary's corruption and past, gary johnson's support of the TPP, and the fact that jill stein is straight up nuts[/quote]

lol dude

you can point out how stupid the conservative platform is without promoting hillary

that said Trump would be worse than Hillary, but Hillary is also a godawful option for the presidency. I'm just not voting. Fuck it.[/quote]
instead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote![/quote]

the problem is neither of the main third parties deserve my vote either. Gary Johnson is for privatizing way too many things, and Jill Stein has a dubious record regarding vaccinations.[/quote]
Jill Stein is completely in support of vaccinations. the entire idea that she was anti-vax came from people who misconstrued something she said about keeping big pharma away from regulatory agencies.
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/766410502792544256[/quote]

That's definitely encouraging. Can you provide me with a clear, concise list of her major policies and what she wants to do as president?
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#191
1 Frags +

i dont sleep enough

i dont sleep enough
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#192
1 Frags +
Geel9loocorijnaGeel9loocorijnaGeel9fade-are you legitimately saying that hillary is a better option than trump?

or gary johnson? or jill stein?

you cannot legitimately convince me that any of those would be better than trump, especially taking into account hillary's corruption and past, gary johnson's support of the TPP, and the fact that jill stein is straight up nuts

lol dude

you can point out how stupid the conservative platform is without promoting hillary

that said Trump would be worse than Hillary, but Hillary is also a godawful option for the presidency. I'm just not voting. Fuck it.
instead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote!

the problem is neither of the main third parties deserve my vote either. Gary Johnson is for privatizing way too many things, and Jill Stein has a dubious record regarding vaccinations.
Jill Stein is completely in support of vaccinations. the entire idea that she was anti-vax came from people who misconstrued something she said about keeping big pharma away from regulatory agencies.
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/766410502792544256

That's definitely encouraging. Can you provide me with a clear, concise list of her major policies and what she wants to do as president?

Very concise list here: http://www.jill2016.com/plan
A bit more detail here: http://www.jill2016.com/platform

[quote=Geel9][quote=loocorijna][quote=Geel9][quote=loocorijna][quote=Geel9][quote=fade-]are you legitimately saying that hillary is a better option than trump?

or gary johnson? or jill stein?

you cannot legitimately convince me that any of those would be better than trump, especially taking into account hillary's corruption and past, gary johnson's support of the TPP, and the fact that jill stein is straight up nuts[/quote]

lol dude

you can point out how stupid the conservative platform is without promoting hillary

that said Trump would be worse than Hillary, but Hillary is also a godawful option for the presidency. I'm just not voting. Fuck it.[/quote]
instead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote![/quote]

the problem is neither of the main third parties deserve my vote either. Gary Johnson is for privatizing way too many things, and Jill Stein has a dubious record regarding vaccinations.[/quote]
Jill Stein is completely in support of vaccinations. the entire idea that she was anti-vax came from people who misconstrued something she said about keeping big pharma away from regulatory agencies.
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/766410502792544256[/quote]

That's definitely encouraging. Can you provide me with a clear, concise list of her major policies and what she wants to do as president?[/quote]
Very concise list here: http://www.jill2016.com/plan
A bit more detail here: http://www.jill2016.com/platform
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#193
marketplace.tf
-1 Frags +
loocorijnaGeel9loocorijnaGeel9loocorijnaGeel9fade-are you legitimately saying that hillary is a better option than trump?

or gary johnson? or jill stein?

you cannot legitimately convince me that any of those would be better than trump, especially taking into account hillary's corruption and past, gary johnson's support of the TPP, and the fact that jill stein is straight up nuts

lol dude

you can point out how stupid the conservative platform is without promoting hillary

that said Trump would be worse than Hillary, but Hillary is also a godawful option for the presidency. I'm just not voting. Fuck it.
instead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote!

the problem is neither of the main third parties deserve my vote either. Gary Johnson is for privatizing way too many things, and Jill Stein has a dubious record regarding vaccinations.
Jill Stein is completely in support of vaccinations. the entire idea that she was anti-vax came from people who misconstrued something she said about keeping big pharma away from regulatory agencies.
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/766410502792544256

That's definitely encouraging. Can you provide me with a clear, concise list of her major policies and what she wants to do as president?
Very concise list here: http://www.jill2016.com/plan
A bit more detail here: http://www.jill2016.com/platform

they're against nuclear power

i can't vote for imbeciles

[quote=loocorijna][quote=Geel9][quote=loocorijna][quote=Geel9][quote=loocorijna][quote=Geel9][quote=fade-]are you legitimately saying that hillary is a better option than trump?

or gary johnson? or jill stein?

you cannot legitimately convince me that any of those would be better than trump, especially taking into account hillary's corruption and past, gary johnson's support of the TPP, and the fact that jill stein is straight up nuts[/quote]

lol dude

you can point out how stupid the conservative platform is without promoting hillary

that said Trump would be worse than Hillary, but Hillary is also a godawful option for the presidency. I'm just not voting. Fuck it.[/quote]
instead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote![/quote]

the problem is neither of the main third parties deserve my vote either. Gary Johnson is for privatizing way too many things, and Jill Stein has a dubious record regarding vaccinations.[/quote]
Jill Stein is completely in support of vaccinations. the entire idea that she was anti-vax came from people who misconstrued something she said about keeping big pharma away from regulatory agencies.
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/766410502792544256[/quote]

That's definitely encouraging. Can you provide me with a clear, concise list of her major policies and what she wants to do as president?[/quote]
Very concise list here: http://www.jill2016.com/plan
A bit more detail here: http://www.jill2016.com/platform[/quote]

they're against nuclear power

i can't vote for imbeciles
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#194
12 Frags +

say goodbye to ur thread now elephantgun

say goodbye to ur thread now elephantgun
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#195
0 Frags +
Geel9loocorijnaGeel9loocorijnaGeel9loocorijnaGeel9fade-are you legitimately saying that hillary is a better option than trump?

or gary johnson? or jill stein?

you cannot legitimately convince me that any of those would be better than trump, especially taking into account hillary's corruption and past, gary johnson's support of the TPP, and the fact that jill stein is straight up nuts

lol dude

you can point out how stupid the conservative platform is without promoting hillary

that said Trump would be worse than Hillary, but Hillary is also a godawful option for the presidency. I'm just not voting. Fuck it.
instead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote!

the problem is neither of the main third parties deserve my vote either. Gary Johnson is for privatizing way too many things, and Jill Stein has a dubious record regarding vaccinations.
Jill Stein is completely in support of vaccinations. the entire idea that she was anti-vax came from people who misconstrued something she said about keeping big pharma away from regulatory agencies.
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/766410502792544256

That's definitely encouraging. Can you provide me with a clear, concise list of her major policies and what she wants to do as president?
Very concise list here: http://www.jill2016.com/plan
A bit more detail here: http://www.jill2016.com/platform

they're against nuclear power

i can't vote for imbeciles

they're for a transition to 100% renewable energy
i dunno what's wrong with that

[quote=Geel9][quote=loocorijna][quote=Geel9][quote=loocorijna][quote=Geel9][quote=loocorijna][quote=Geel9][quote=fade-]are you legitimately saying that hillary is a better option than trump?

or gary johnson? or jill stein?

you cannot legitimately convince me that any of those would be better than trump, especially taking into account hillary's corruption and past, gary johnson's support of the TPP, and the fact that jill stein is straight up nuts[/quote]

lol dude

you can point out how stupid the conservative platform is without promoting hillary

that said Trump would be worse than Hillary, but Hillary is also a godawful option for the presidency. I'm just not voting. Fuck it.[/quote]
instead of not voting, consider supporting a third party! while they may not win this election cycle, they will get equal funding in the next cycle if they receive 5% of the vote![/quote]

the problem is neither of the main third parties deserve my vote either. Gary Johnson is for privatizing way too many things, and Jill Stein has a dubious record regarding vaccinations.[/quote]
Jill Stein is completely in support of vaccinations. the entire idea that she was anti-vax came from people who misconstrued something she said about keeping big pharma away from regulatory agencies.
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/766410502792544256[/quote]

That's definitely encouraging. Can you provide me with a clear, concise list of her major policies and what she wants to do as president?[/quote]
Very concise list here: http://www.jill2016.com/plan
A bit more detail here: http://www.jill2016.com/platform[/quote]

they're against nuclear power

i can't vote for imbeciles[/quote]
they're for a transition to 100% renewable energy
i dunno what's wrong with that
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#196
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loocorijnathey're for a transition to 100% renewable energy
i dunno what's wrong with that

they're against nuclear, which, for all intents and purposes, is just as good as renewable.

Like fuck, I can't vote for or respect someone who honestly buys into all that anti-nuclear bullshit

[quote=loocorijna]
they're for a transition to 100% renewable energy
i dunno what's wrong with that[/quote]

they're against nuclear, which, for all intents and purposes, is just as good as renewable.

Like fuck, I can't vote for or respect someone who honestly buys into all that anti-nuclear bullshit
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#197
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I just want to share my gratitude towards teamfortress.tv, in its entirety.

Chiefly I'm thankful for this space to experience and explore competitive TF2 as a whole; most of my friends have long moved on from this game and it's comforting to be a part--albeit a small, relatively unvocal part--of such a unique, spirited and largely accepting community.

But there's another, stranger reason I'm thankful to have found tftv.

This past quarter I took a notoriously difficult argumentative writing class that culminated in a twelve page research paper. To some of you that may not seem like too much trouble, but for a first time researcher like myself, it seemed insurmountable. We were allowed to write on any subject that interested us, and I chose to research how interaction on the internet can create conformity in the thoughts and ideas expressed by users online. I used this thread as a primary source to demonstrate how upvotes and downvotes--I mean upfrags and downfrags--can shape the course of an online conversation. When I got my grades at the beginning of this summer, I was surprised to see I was one of only three people to pass the class with an A.

So I just wanted to express my thanks to all of you tftv users: every shitposter, pro player, lurker, memer, caster, nerdstar pursuer, and community figure. I love all of you and I'm proud to be a part of this community.

I just want to share my gratitude towards teamfortress.tv, in its entirety.

Chiefly I'm thankful for this space to experience and explore competitive TF2 as a whole; most of my friends have long moved on from this game and it's comforting to be a part--albeit a small, relatively unvocal part--of such a unique, spirited and largely accepting community.

But there's another, stranger reason I'm thankful to have found tftv.

This past quarter I took a notoriously difficult argumentative writing class that culminated in a twelve page research paper. To some of you that may not seem like too much trouble, but for a first time researcher like myself, it seemed insurmountable. We were allowed to write on any subject that interested us, and I chose to research how interaction on the internet can create conformity in the thoughts and ideas expressed by users online. I used [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/33194/b4nny-v-thalash]this thread[/url] as a primary source to demonstrate how upvotes and downvotes--I mean upfrags and downfrags--can shape the course of an online conversation. When I got my grades at the beginning of this summer, I was surprised to see I was one of only three people to pass the class with an A.

So I just wanted to express my thanks to all of you tftv users: every shitposter, pro player, lurker, memer, caster, nerdstar pursuer, and community figure. I love all of you and I'm proud to be a part of this community.
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#199
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honestly if youre against nuclear power im going to assume youre grossly uninformed. the only real downside to nuclear power atm is what to do with the waste it produces

honestly if youre against nuclear power im going to assume youre grossly uninformed. the only real downside to nuclear power atm is what to do with the waste it produces
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#200
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Geel9loocorijnathey're for a transition to 100% renewable energy
i dunno what's wrong with that

they're against nuclear, which, for all intents and purposes, is just as good as renewable.

Like fuck, I can't vote for or respect someone who honestly buys into all that anti-nuclear bullshit

Technically it's not renewable, though the renewable energy sources we currently have aren't really viable and nuclear is much better than our current dependence on oil. However there is technology for solar energy currently under development which could turn into a viable large scale energy source, at the same time there are completely renewable forms of nuclear power. I assume that the renewable nuclear power generators lost interest because the others are more profitable.

[quote=Geel9][quote=loocorijna]
they're for a transition to 100% renewable energy
i dunno what's wrong with that[/quote]

they're against nuclear, which, for all intents and purposes, is just as good as renewable.

Like fuck, I can't vote for or respect someone who honestly buys into all that anti-nuclear bullshit[/quote]
Technically it's not renewable, though the renewable energy sources we currently have aren't really viable and nuclear is much better than our current dependence on oil. However there is technology for solar energy currently under development which could turn into a viable large scale energy source, at the same time there are completely renewable forms of nuclear power. I assume that the renewable nuclear power generators lost interest because the others are more profitable.
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#201
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TommyI played too much tf2 in my youth (12-14) so now I have poor social skills

Ok i know this sounds crazy but I learned most of my social skills from watching tv shows. It's also a great conversation starter, and im not talking anime or some shit. Watch tv shows that are popular among people your age, its a great way to connect with somebody and watching people have conversations will help you have conversations.

[quote=Tommy]I played too much tf2 in my youth (12-14) so now I have poor social skills[/quote]

Ok i know this sounds crazy but I learned most of my social skills from watching tv shows. It's also a great conversation starter, and im not talking anime or some shit. Watch tv shows that are popular among people your age, its a great way to connect with somebody and watching people have conversations will help you have conversations.
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#202
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JJDoreI know this thread has been pretty much about people struggling with some part of their life (or just the whole thing), but ILLEGALELEPHANTGUN said it was for pretty much any feeling you wanna get out so I just wanna say that I was super nervous about starting college but it has honestly been awesome. I'm really enjoying myself and I'm happy with life. The few months before I had been doubting a lot of stuff about me and in my life but I feel like I'm figuring myself out more and becoming much more comfortable with myself and the people around me. Best of luck to everyone else out there!

glad to hear! not every post has to be super dark or trauma filled. before i went away to university i was anxious as a mofo, but upon arrival i had a total 180 on that feeling. i loved my time spent dorming, made a lot of cool friends, and got to try out a lot of different clubs/hobbies i might not have thought about at home. that being said, i probably wouldnt dorm again. super expensive, the food at home is 100x better than on campus, and i was taking the train home every weekend to be with my girlfriend, so that was costly in itself. a great experience, nonetheless. definitely happy i got to do it though.

[quote=JJDore]I know this thread has been pretty much about people struggling with some part of their life (or just the whole thing), but ILLEGALELEPHANTGUN said it was for pretty much any feeling you wanna get out so I just wanna say that I was super nervous about starting college but it has honestly been awesome. I'm really enjoying myself and I'm happy with life. The few months before I had been doubting a lot of stuff about me and in my life but I feel like I'm figuring myself out more and becoming much more comfortable with myself and the people around me. Best of luck to everyone else out there![/quote]
glad to hear! not every post has to be super dark or trauma filled. before i went away to university i was anxious as a mofo, but upon arrival i had a total 180 on that feeling. i loved my time spent dorming, made a lot of cool friends, and got to try out a lot of different clubs/hobbies i might not have thought about at home. that being said, i probably wouldnt dorm again. super expensive, the food at home is 100x better than on campus, and i was taking the train home every weekend to be with my girlfriend, so that was costly in itself. a great experience, nonetheless. definitely happy i got to do it though.
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#203
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@ political discussion; i deem it okay because political ideas are a touchy subject and not easily discussed, theres a lot of tiptoeing around issues and it almost always turns into a full on debate. that being said i find it appropriate to open up about your political stances and engage in conversation, but please remember to keep it civil here. theres nothing productive about talking down to people because your opinions differ. and as for politics in general, i dont think there is ever going to be one right answer. politics will always have to change and adapt to the times. i try to keep my head out of politics though so i might just be talking out my ass.

@ political discussion; i deem it okay because political ideas are a touchy subject and not easily discussed, theres a lot of tiptoeing around issues and it almost always turns into a full on debate. that being said i find it appropriate to open up about your political stances and engage in conversation, but please remember to keep it civil here. theres nothing productive about talking down to people because your opinions differ. and as for politics in general, i dont think there is ever going to be one right answer. politics will always have to change and adapt to the times. i try to keep my head out of politics though so i might just be talking out my ass.
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#204
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I was going to start out in open this next season, but apparently "video games will destroy my grades" even though I've already been doing well in school and getting maybe 1 or 2 B's at most a semester. And now I probably won't be able to play tf2 with a team at all for at least the next 10 seasons or when I graduate college and move out (hint:I'm still in high school) and probably ESEA will be dead by then and it just really fucking pisses me off that I probably will never get better at this game or be able to play with some of the amazing people I've met because of this game. This probably looks like whining to some of you guys who are struggling with more serious situations but I'm just really annoyed.

I was going to start out in open this next season, but apparently "video games will destroy my grades" even though I've already been doing well in school and getting maybe 1 or 2 B's at most a semester. And now I probably won't be able to play tf2 with a team at all for at least the next 10 seasons or when I graduate college and move out (hint:I'm still in high school) and probably ESEA will be dead by then and it just really fucking pisses me off that I probably will never get better at this game or be able to play with some of the amazing people I've met because of this game. This probably looks like whining to some of you guys who are struggling with more serious situations but I'm just really annoyed.
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#205
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CONFIDENCE IS KEY. Sometimes u gotta say fuck it and do it. Nike wasn't lying
also for the people complaining about having no friends:
high school sucks, I have friends and they smoke weed and shit and thats great but i dont do it i was never interested. dont let your friend convince you to do something u dont want to do like if u want to smoke weed go for it have fun. I've accepted the fact that I probably wont have super close hs friends and my real friends live 5 hours away from me and I see them 2 months of 1 year at summer camp, so you might as well focus on academics so you can get into the college you want to go and then start fresh there.

CONFIDENCE IS KEY. Sometimes u gotta say fuck it and do it. Nike wasn't lying
also for the people complaining about having no friends:
high school sucks, I have friends and they smoke weed and shit and thats great but i dont do it i was never interested. dont let your friend convince you to do something u dont want to do like if u want to smoke weed go for it have fun. I've accepted the fact that I probably wont have super close hs friends and my real friends live 5 hours away from me and I see them 2 months of 1 year at summer camp, so you might as well focus on academics so you can get into the college you want to go and then start fresh there.
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#206
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i spend way too much money on dumb shit

do it enjoy the stuff i buy? yes

do i spend far too much money for a 16 year old? yes

like dude i don't see me spending a few hundred here and there as being overboard but i compare myself to other people my age and it's like wtf

i spend way too much money on dumb shit

do it enjoy the stuff i buy? yes

do i spend far too much money for a 16 year old? yes

like dude i don't see me spending a few hundred here and there as being overboard but i compare myself to other people my age and it's like wtf
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#207
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fade-i don't see me spending a few hundred here and there as being overboard

It's like you're bragging

[quote=fade-]i don't see me spending a few hundred here and there as being overboard[/quote]
It's like you're bragging
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#208
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Well I'm 13 and even with 5 years of experience I still can't play without someone saying something about my fucking age and honestly I'm tired of it. People have no fucking respect for anyone in this community and its sad. It has so much potential and I'd like to enjoy this game but people are making it difficult for me. I'm not the happiest person in the world right now and I feel like TF2 is that thing that makes me happy. I love this game and what it's done for me, I've learned to do simple scripts for things like a crouch jump or a rocket jump and it's great. I wanna play PugChamp with sandblast (og ass nigga he coo) but people still continue to laugh at me or make me look bad and my image is ruined. No one ever takes me seriously at all and I don't know what to do. Sometimes I'm confused on what I do to make people hate me so much and it actually hurts when people constantly trash talk me even when I do good and try to be a good person. Anger has always been a problem for me and this community ticks it and when people make me angry there's no going back. But even when I'm cool and chilling still people love to mess with me. Why? Cause I'm young? Do people get off to being mean to younger people because they've got nothing going on in their life. Idk anymore. This community has some serious issues and we need to lose the whole bully kids thing. It's old because you don't know what the fuck could be going on in there life before you shitting on their day. Half of the time, I just wanna play my favorite game for many years and many more to come. But everyday it gets harder and harder.

Well I'm 13 and even with 5 years of experience I still can't play without someone saying something about my fucking age and honestly I'm tired of it. People have no fucking respect for anyone in this community and its sad. It has so much potential and I'd like to enjoy this game but people are making it difficult for me. I'm not the happiest person in the world right now and I feel like TF2 is that thing that makes me happy. I love this game and what it's done for me, I've learned to do simple scripts for things like a crouch jump or a rocket jump and it's great. I wanna play PugChamp with sandblast (og ass nigga he coo) but people still continue to laugh at me or make me look bad and my image is ruined. No one ever takes me seriously at all and I don't know what to do. Sometimes I'm confused on what I do to make people hate me so much and it actually hurts when people constantly trash talk me even when I do good and try to be a good person. Anger has always been a problem for me and this community ticks it and when people make me angry there's no going back. But even when I'm cool and chilling still people love to mess with me. Why? Cause I'm young? Do people get off to being mean to younger people because they've got nothing going on in their life. Idk anymore. This community has some serious issues and we need to lose the whole bully kids thing. It's old because you don't know what the fuck could be going on in there life before you shitting on their day. Half of the time, I just wanna play my favorite game for many years and many more to come. But everyday it gets harder and harder.
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#209
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tonyswedeyWell I'm 13 and even with 5 years of experience I still can't play without someone saying something about my fucking age and honestly I'm tired of it. People have no fucking respect for anyone in this community and its sad. It has so much potential and I'd like to enjoy this game but people are making it difficult for me. I'm not the happiest person in the world right now and I feel like TF2 is that thing that makes me happy. I love this game and what it's done for me, I've learned to do simple scripts for things like a crouch jump or a rocket jump and it's great. I wanna play PugChamp with sandblast (og ass nigga he coo) but people still continue to laugh at me or make me look bad and my image is ruined. No one ever takes me seriously at all and I don't know what to do. Sometimes I'm confused on what I do to make people hate me so much and it actually hurts when people constantly trash talk me even when I do good and try to be a good person. Anger has always been a problem for me and this community ticks it and when people make me angry there's no going back. But even when I'm cool and chilling still people love to mess with me. Why? Cause I'm young? Do people get off to being mean to younger people because they've got nothing going on in their life. Idk anymore. This community has some serious issues and we need to lose the whole bully kids thing. It's old because you don't know what the fuck could be going on in there life before you shitting on their day. Half of the time, I just wanna play my favorite game for many years and many more to come. But everyday it gets harder and harder.

people out there really do get off to being mean to young kids. i cant believe youve been playing since you were 8? i almost want to suggest that you pour your time into more profitable games like League or OW since you are still so young and ripe. that of course is your choice but, man if i knew about the world of pro gaming when i was your age id have hopped in to counter strike or something. as for the anger thing, let it go. youre going to learn that eventually so why not now. what people say or do online in games really has no fucking purpose. the way you want to hop on your favorite game and play and enjoy yourself, people out there want to hop into a game and be a troll. i wish there was a better explanation other than "trolls exist". im all for people being nicer but thats like preaching of a utopia, it just isnt going to happen. people are dicks \o/ literally who gives a fuck. i get that its frustrating to deal with, i suggest learn where the Mute option is and learn to ignore people better. sounds like shitty advice but its really all you can do. ignoring trolls is the best way to counter them, if you give any sort of reply you are just 'feeding' them and encouraging them to troll more.

[quote=tonyswedey]Well I'm 13 and even with 5 years of experience I still can't play without someone saying something about my fucking age and honestly I'm tired of it. People have no fucking respect for anyone in this community and its sad. It has so much potential and I'd like to enjoy this game but people are making it difficult for me. I'm not the happiest person in the world right now and I feel like TF2 is that thing that makes me happy. I love this game and what it's done for me, I've learned to do simple scripts for things like a crouch jump or a rocket jump and it's great. I wanna play PugChamp with sandblast (og ass nigga he coo) but people still continue to laugh at me or make me look bad and my image is ruined. No one ever takes me seriously at all and I don't know what to do. Sometimes I'm confused on what I do to make people hate me so much and it actually hurts when people constantly trash talk me even when I do good and try to be a good person. Anger has always been a problem for me and this community ticks it and when people make me angry there's no going back. But even when I'm cool and chilling still people love to mess with me. Why? Cause I'm young? Do people get off to being mean to younger people because they've got nothing going on in their life. Idk anymore. This community has some serious issues and we need to lose the whole bully kids thing. It's old because you don't know what the fuck could be going on in there life before you shitting on their day. Half of the time, I just wanna play my favorite game for many years and many more to come. But everyday it gets harder and harder.[/quote]
people out there really do get off to being mean to young kids. i cant believe youve been playing since you were 8? i almost want to suggest that you pour your time into more profitable games like League or OW since you are still so young and ripe. that of course is your choice but, man if i knew about the world of pro gaming when i was your age id have hopped in to counter strike or something. as for the anger thing, let it go. youre going to learn that eventually so why not now. what people say or do online in games really has no fucking purpose. the way you want to hop on your favorite game and play and enjoy yourself, people out there want to hop into a game and be a troll. i wish there was a better explanation other than "trolls exist". im all for people being nicer but thats like preaching of a utopia, it just isnt going to happen. people are dicks \o/ literally who gives a fuck. i get that its frustrating to deal with, i suggest learn where the Mute option is and learn to ignore people better. sounds like shitty advice but its really all you can do. ignoring trolls is the best way to counter them, if you give any sort of reply you are just 'feeding' them and encouraging them to troll more.
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#210
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ILLEGALELEPHANTGUNtonyswedeyWell I'm 13 and even with 5 years of experience I still can't play without someone saying something about my fucking age and honestly I'm tired of it. People have no fucking respect for anyone in this community and its sad. It has so much potential and I'd like to enjoy this game but people are making it difficult for me. I'm not the happiest person in the world right now and I feel like TF2 is that thing that makes me happy. I love this game and what it's done for me, I've learned to do simple scripts for things like a crouch jump or a rocket jump and it's great. I wanna play PugChamp with sandblast (og ass nigga he coo) but people still continue to laugh at me or make me look bad and my image is ruined. No one ever takes me seriously at all and I don't know what to do. Sometimes I'm confused on what I do to make people hate me so much and it actually hurts when people constantly trash talk me even when I do good and try to be a good person. Anger has always been a problem for me and this community ticks it and when people make me angry there's no going back. But even when I'm cool and chilling still people love to mess with me. Why? Cause I'm young? Do people get off to being mean to younger people because they've got nothing going on in their life. Idk anymore. This community has some serious issues and we need to lose the whole bully kids thing. It's old because you don't know what the fuck could be going on in there life before you shitting on their day. Half of the time, I just wanna play my favorite game for many years and many more to come. But everyday it gets harder and harder.people out there really do get off to being mean to young kids. i cant believe youve been playing since you were 8? i almost want to suggest that you pour your time into more profitable games like League or OW since you are still so young and ripe. that of course is your choice but, man if i knew about the world of pro gaming when i was your age id have hopped in to counter strike or something. as for the anger thing, let it go. youre going to learn that eventually so why not now. what people say or do online in games really has no fucking purpose. the way you want to hop on your favorite game and play and enjoy yourself, people out there want to hop into a game and be a troll. i wish there was a better explanation other than "trolls exist". im all for people being nicer but thats like preaching of a utopia, it just isnt going to happen. people are dicks \o/ literally who gives a fuck. i get that its frustrating to deal with, i suggest learn where the Mute option is and learn to ignore people better. sounds like shitty advice but its really all you can do. ignoring trolls is the best way to counter them, if you give any sort of reply you are just 'feeding' them and encouraging them to troll more.

thanks dude im working on my attitude and anger its just having no confidence and knowing whats wrong with me and i cant help myself it makes me angry. but im getting better everyday

[quote=ILLEGALELEPHANTGUN][quote=tonyswedey]Well I'm 13 and even with 5 years of experience I still can't play without someone saying something about my fucking age and honestly I'm tired of it. People have no fucking respect for anyone in this community and its sad. It has so much potential and I'd like to enjoy this game but people are making it difficult for me. I'm not the happiest person in the world right now and I feel like TF2 is that thing that makes me happy. I love this game and what it's done for me, I've learned to do simple scripts for things like a crouch jump or a rocket jump and it's great. I wanna play PugChamp with sandblast (og ass nigga he coo) but people still continue to laugh at me or make me look bad and my image is ruined. No one ever takes me seriously at all and I don't know what to do. Sometimes I'm confused on what I do to make people hate me so much and it actually hurts when people constantly trash talk me even when I do good and try to be a good person. Anger has always been a problem for me and this community ticks it and when people make me angry there's no going back. But even when I'm cool and chilling still people love to mess with me. Why? Cause I'm young? Do people get off to being mean to younger people because they've got nothing going on in their life. Idk anymore. This community has some serious issues and we need to lose the whole bully kids thing. It's old because you don't know what the fuck could be going on in there life before you shitting on their day. Half of the time, I just wanna play my favorite game for many years and many more to come. But everyday it gets harder and harder.[/quote]
people out there really do get off to being mean to young kids. i cant believe youve been playing since you were 8? i almost want to suggest that you pour your time into more profitable games like League or OW since you are still so young and ripe. that of course is your choice but, man if i knew about the world of pro gaming when i was your age id have hopped in to counter strike or something. as for the anger thing, let it go. youre going to learn that eventually so why not now. what people say or do online in games really has no fucking purpose. the way you want to hop on your favorite game and play and enjoy yourself, people out there want to hop into a game and be a troll. i wish there was a better explanation other than "trolls exist". im all for people being nicer but thats like preaching of a utopia, it just isnt going to happen. people are dicks \o/ literally who gives a fuck. i get that its frustrating to deal with, i suggest learn where the Mute option is and learn to ignore people better. sounds like shitty advice but its really all you can do. ignoring trolls is the best way to counter them, if you give any sort of reply you are just 'feeding' them and encouraging them to troll more.[/quote] thanks dude im working on my attitude and anger its just having no confidence and knowing whats wrong with me and i cant help myself it makes me angry. but im getting better everyday
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