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Selling HDDs
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We're done here
No, we're not.

So I've got a few HDDs that I don't need anymore because I have replaced / will be replacing them in the next couple of days.

I can ship to anywhere in the EU, any parcel service you want or just the cheapest I can find (insured or not, your choice). Shipping might be extra depending on how many you buy, where you live and whether or not you want it to be insured.

I'm selling two each of:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2TB (ST2000DM001) 55€ one sold
Both about 2 years old. Can provide invoice / proof of purchase / anything you need for warranty related concerns.
Before anyone asks, both are the "good" two platter version, not the shitty bait and switch 3 platter version.

Toshiba MD04ACA400 4TB 100€ one sold
Both pretty much exactly 1 year old. Includes original packaging and all the swag (read: 4 screws) that it came with.
Can provide invoice / proof of purchase / anything you need for warranty related concerns.

Toshiba MD04ACA500 5TB 135€ sold
Both less than 1 year old. Includes original packaging and all the swag (read: warranty pamphlets) that it came with.
Can provide invoice / proof of purchase / anything you need for warranty related concerns.

The Toshibas are not that well known I think so FYI they are all SATA III HDDs, 7200rpm, 128MB cache.
They've also been sold as PH-30xxE-1Hx0 or most recently as X300.
They're the consumer branded / SATA version of the MG04ACA enterprise HDDs (that's why they've got 128MB instead of the standard 64MB), so yes, they are pretty damn fast.
Yes, they support CCTL/ERC/TLER. URE rate is lower than the advertised 1 in 10^14 from my experience, although that's not surprising since the enterprise version is advertised to exceed 10^16.

All drives are working perfectly fine, no errors or anything at all. I quite like the MD04ACA actually, in fact the drives I'm replacing everything with are the 6TB version to get that sweet sweet storage density. The main reason I'm selling the 4 and 5TB drives is to have drives of only one size for RAID10.
I've only kept the 2TB drives for compatibility until now and didn't really them anymore so I figured if I'm going to start selling HDDs I might as well get rid of those too.

[s][b]We're done here[/b][/s]
[b]No, we're not.[/b]

So I've got a few HDDs that I don't need anymore because I have replaced / will be replacing them in the next couple of days.

I can ship to anywhere in the EU, any parcel service you want or just the cheapest I can find (insured or not, your choice). Shipping might be extra depending on how many you buy, where you live and whether or not you want it to be insured.

I'm selling [b]two[/b] each of:
[s][b]Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2TB[/b] (ST2000DM001) [b]55€[/b] one sold[/s]
Both about 2 years old. Can provide invoice / proof of purchase / anything you need for warranty related concerns.
Before anyone asks, both are the "good" two platter version, not the shitty bait and switch 3 platter version.

[b]Toshiba MD04ACA400 4TB[/b] [b]100€[/b] one sold
Both pretty much exactly 1 year old. Includes original packaging and all the swag (read: 4 screws) that it came with.
Can provide invoice / proof of purchase / anything you need for warranty related concerns.

[s][b]Toshiba MD04ACA500 5TB[/b] [b]135€[/b][/s] sold
Both less than 1 year old. Includes original packaging and all the swag (read: warranty pamphlets) that it came with.
Can provide invoice / proof of purchase / anything you need for warranty related concerns.

The Toshibas are not that well known I think so FYI they are all SATA III HDDs, 7200rpm, 128MB cache.
They've also been sold as PH-30xxE-1Hx0 or most recently as X300.
They're the consumer branded / SATA version of the MG04ACA enterprise HDDs (that's why they've got 128MB instead of the standard 64MB), so yes, they are pretty damn fast.
Yes, they support CCTL/ERC/TLER. URE rate is lower than the advertised 1 in 10^14 from my experience, although that's not surprising since the enterprise version is advertised to exceed 10^16.

All drives are working perfectly fine, no errors or anything at all. I quite like the MD04ACA actually, in fact the drives I'm replacing everything with are the 6TB version to get that sweet sweet storage density. The main reason I'm selling the 4 and 5TB drives is to have drives of only one size for RAID10.
I've only kept the 2TB drives for compatibility until now and didn't really them anymore so I figured if I'm going to start selling HDDs I might as well get rid of those too.
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http://i.imgur.com/W5Xi0qw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/W5Xi0qw.jpg
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Depending on the cost of shipping to Portugal, definitely interested in either the Seagate or Toshiba 4tb. I need a extra hard drive for the i55 fragmovie badly but I don't have enough saved up atm, if you could hold onto one of those until the end of the month or something would be cool! :)

Depending on the cost of shipping to Portugal, definitely interested in either the Seagate or Toshiba 4tb. I need a extra hard drive for the i55 fragmovie badly but I don't have enough saved up atm, if you could hold onto one of those until the end of the month or something would be cool! :)
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#2
But you know some of them. ;-)
Most of that is just additional information for nerds.

#3
I'm not expecting to sell them all that quickly, there'll probably be more than one left.
If one of the 5TB ends up being the last one I'll sell it to you for the 4TB price if you promise to actually finish the fragmovie before Valve releases HL3 unlike some other people.
I didn't put much effort into it but the cheapest I could find for >500g to Portugal was 7€.

#2
But you know some of them. ;-)
Most of that is just additional information for nerds.

#3
I'm not expecting to sell them all that quickly, there'll probably be more than one left.
If one of the 5TB ends up being the last one I'll sell it to you for the 4TB price if you promise to actually finish the fragmovie before Valve releases HL3 unlike some other people.
I didn't put much effort into it but the cheapest I could find for >500g to Portugal was 7€.
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#5
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Please to god tell me that you wiped these with something like DBAN or using something like Ccleanerbuilt in secure drive erase option with at least a couple of passes. I am sure that you do not want any of your data getting out. I wouldn't recommend selling HDD'S as the only 100% way of getting rid of the data is to physically destroy the hard drive.

Then again this IS Setsul were talking about here so he probably did this already.

Please to god tell me that you wiped these with something like [url=http://www.dban.org/]DBAN[/url] or using something like [url=https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download]Ccleaner[/url]built in secure drive erase option with at least a couple of passes. I am sure that you do not want any of your data getting out. I wouldn't recommend selling HDD'S as the only 100% way of getting rid of the data is to physically destroy the hard drive.

Then again this IS Setsul were talking about here so he probably did this already.
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#6
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Oh boi setsul's porn folder
->
Pictures of computer parts

Oh boi setsul's porn folder
->
Pictures of computer parts
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#5
Don't worry.
Even if I didn't it's striped and ZFS anyway. So unless you bought all HDDs you'd never get all blocks. Even if you did you'd have to find one of the few people who can restore a zpool and then pay them a couple of grand just for the chance that they might be able to do it.

So yeah, no one will ever know what was on there.

#6
Nah, I've got the real thing. I mean look at these sexy, hard drives.

#5
Don't worry.
Even if I didn't it's striped and ZFS anyway. So unless you bought all HDDs you'd never get all blocks. Even if you did you'd have to find one of the few people who can restore a zpool and then pay them a couple of grand just for the chance that they might be able to do it.

So yeah, no one will ever know what was on there.

#6
Nah, I've got the real thing. I mean look at these sexy, hard drives.
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#8
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The Seagates are gone, 1 Toshiba reserved, 3 Toshiba (any combination) still available.

The Seagates are gone, 1 Toshiba reserved, 3 Toshiba (any combination) still available.
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#9
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5TBs are gone now as well.
One 4TB is reserved for Kaneco, one is still available.

5TBs are gone now as well.
One 4TB is reserved for Kaneco, one is still available.
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#10
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Have you ever wondered what 50TB look like?

http://i.imgur.com/nxDczi5.jpg

Now you know.

Everything sold except for two that are reserved.
Actually two brits have expressed interest in the last 2TB. They don't know it yet but they'll have to fight for it at i58.

Have you ever wondered what 50TB look like?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/nxDczi5.jpg[/img]
Now you know.

Everything sold except for two that are reserved.
Actually two brits have expressed interest in the last 2TB. They don't know it yet but they'll have to fight for it at i58.
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SetsulHave you ever wondered what 50TB look like?
http://i.imgur.com/nxDczi5.jpg
Now you know.

Everything sold except for two that are reserved.
Actually two brits have expressed interest in the last 2TB. They don't know it yet but they'll have to fight for it at i58.

just out of curiosity, what are the purpose of all of these HDD's you've acquired? like this is 50 terabytes, and i bet you have plenty of more HDD's. are those for your server/gaming rig/work pc/something else? in the 9 years of my still working 160GB drive ive never managed to fill more than a half of it, how do you even fill that much storage single handedly?

[quote=Setsul]Have you ever wondered what 50TB look like?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/nxDczi5.jpg[/img]
Now you know.

Everything sold except for two that are reserved.
Actually two brits have expressed interest in the last 2TB. They don't know it yet but they'll have to fight for it at i58.[/quote]

just out of curiosity, what are the purpose of all of these HDD's you've acquired? like this is 50 terabytes, and i bet you have plenty of more HDD's. are those for your server/gaming rig/work pc/something else? in the 9 years of my still working 160GB drive ive never managed to fill more than a half of it, how do you even fill that much storage single handedly?
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These are for my Server/NAS and Backup NAS.
First you need to understand that my storage efficiency is terrible. It will improve once BTRFS RAID6 is completely stable (although only for the Backups, otherwise performance is too important) so I'm running RAID10 exclusively. Also filling an array up to 100% is a bad idea if you don't want it to slow to a crawl. So even with compression and even deduplication due to that overhead (2x for each RAID10, everything exists on at least 3 different arrays) I'm only getting around 7TB usable out of the 48TB (8x 6TB) that I bought during the most recent upgrade. The picture shows 50TB because I didn't want to lie and 50 sounds better than 48.

Anyway 7TB is still a lot compared 160GB I guess. So why do I have that much data. Well I've got pretty much anything I've ever produced still lying around somewhere. That's a few hundred GB. Some backups of my boot partitions (not only my PC, but laptop and older PCs/laptops that are long gone now as well) so that's another few hundred GB. Games obviously, I cba to reinstall games but I also cba to exclude them from the automatic backups, so I could save those a TB (obviously more in raw capacity) or so if I had to. Pictures should be a couple GB as well.
By far the biggest though are music and videos. It's kind of obvious for music but why should I have to physically search for a certain movie if I'm going to watch it digitally anyway? Bonus: I don't have to worry about discs getting scratched or simply dying. Keep in mind that a single Blu Ray is 25GB, so your usual 26 episodes season with 6 discs + bonus material is easily >150GB. You can guess that I'm getting a couple TB from that.

These are for my Server/NAS and Backup NAS.
First you need to understand that my storage efficiency is terrible. It will improve once BTRFS RAID6 is completely stable (although only for the Backups, otherwise performance is too important) so I'm running RAID10 exclusively. Also filling an array up to 100% is a bad idea if you don't want it to slow to a crawl. So even with compression and even deduplication due to that overhead (2x for each RAID10, everything exists on at least 3 different arrays) I'm only getting around 7TB usable out of the 48TB (8x 6TB) that I bought during the most recent upgrade. The picture shows 50TB because I didn't want to lie and 50 sounds better than 48.

Anyway 7TB is still a lot compared 160GB I guess. So why do I have that much data. Well I've got pretty much anything I've ever produced still lying around somewhere. That's a few hundred GB. Some backups of my boot partitions (not only my PC, but laptop and older PCs/laptops that are long gone now as well) so that's another few hundred GB. Games obviously, I cba to reinstall games but I also cba to exclude them from the automatic backups, so I could save those a TB (obviously more in raw capacity) or so if I had to. Pictures should be a couple GB as well.
By far the biggest though are music and videos. It's kind of obvious for music but why should I have to physically search for a certain movie if I'm going to watch it digitally anyway? Bonus: I don't have to worry about discs getting scratched or simply dying. Keep in mind that a single Blu Ray is 25GB, so your usual 26 episodes season with 6 discs + bonus material is easily >150GB. You can guess that I'm getting a couple TB from that.
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Due to poor brits being poor for the foreseeable future and Kaneco to busy to actually tackle big projects that would require a new HDD one 2TB and one 4TB are available again.

Due to poor brits being poor for the foreseeable future and Kaneco to busy to actually tackle big projects that would require a new HDD one 2TB and one 4TB are available again.
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Would you consider shipping to Canada? I might wanna grab the 2TB one

Would you consider shipping to Canada? I might wanna grab the 2TB one
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Yes, but don't forget about shipping, conversion rates and most likely taxes.
Right now 55€ ~ 82 CAD. I'll have to check what shipping costs and if and what taxes apply.

EDIT: Cheapest I've found so far is DHL for 16€ which would put the total above the price for a new one in Canada.

Yes, but don't forget about shipping, conversion rates and most likely taxes.
Right now 55€ ~ 82 CAD. I'll have to check what shipping costs and if and what taxes apply.

EDIT: Cheapest I've found so far is DHL for 16€ which would put the total above the price for a new one in Canada.
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#16
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Last 2TB gone, one 4TB left.
100€.

Last 2TB gone, one 4TB left.
100€.
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#17
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setsul can I ask you how much you have spent on your computer/related stuff

i must know :3

setsul can I ask you how much you have spent on your computer/related stuff

i must know :3
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#18
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I don't know. I don't think I want to know.

I don't know. I don't think I want to know.
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