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AsiaFortress Cup 9 Division 1 Grand Finals
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Completed
DATE
Saturday, Sep 5th
TIME
8:00 AM EDT
STREAM
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Four teams started AFC 9 competing for the title of Asia's best time, and now two remain. Mihaly's Flow (no relation to the legendary North American team) are the massive favorites going into the final, but Emi Dizziness, who overcame Chinese superteam Cute Beast by the thinnest of margins in the semifinals, stands in their way. Which team will be crowned champions? Let's find out.

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Asiafortress Grand Finals EmiDizziness Vs. Mihaly's Flow // Casted by Sakiisa & Tensei
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#1
8 Frags +

Hey all you awesome people on this forum!

I'm the new Head Administrator for AsiaFortress, and I'd like to share with you guys that we're having our Division 1 Grand Finals soon! Here's a link to our official writeup if you wish to find out more about the teams competing. The links to the Twitch stream and the Saloon.TF page (for all you gamblers) can also be found in the above link.

The match will be on 5th September 2015 at 8 PM GMT+8. This should help you out with the timezone conversion.

For you folks who have been curious about the Asian TF2 scene, this is your chance to find out! If you can't make it, don't worry because we have an STV re-cast planned with better editing and etc.

If you have any questions about the tournament or league, just post below and I'll try my best to answer them.

Thanks for your interest, and hope to see you on stream!

Regards,
Caldoran

Hey all you awesome people on this forum!

I'm the new Head Administrator for AsiaFortress, and I'd like to share with you guys that we're having our Division 1 Grand Finals soon! Here's a link to our [url=http://asiafortress.com/index.php/index.html/_/news/afc-9-division-1-grand-finals-r188]official writeup[/url] if you wish to find out more about the teams competing. The links to the Twitch stream and the Saloon.TF page (for all you gamblers) can also be found in the above link.

The match will be on [b]5th September 2015 at 8 PM GMT+8[/b]. [url=http://bit.ly/1KPgNyy]This[/url] should help you out with the timezone conversion.

For you folks who have been curious about the Asian TF2 scene, this is your chance to find out! If you can't make it, don't worry because we have an STV re-cast planned with better editing and etc.

If you have any questions about the tournament or league, just post below and I'll try my best to answer them.

Thanks for your interest, and hope to see you on stream!

Regards,
Caldoran
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#2
12 Frags +

Nice! This should be added to the "Upcoming Events"-sidebar :D

Nice! This should be added to the "Upcoming Events"-sidebar :D
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#3
2 Frags +

Good prepwork, looking forward to it!

Good prepwork, looking forward to it!
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#4
6 Frags +

My boy life, still god damn doing it up real big as the top medic in the region.

I'm not joking when I say he may be the best in the world. I've watched/streamed so many of his demos.. what a unique, effective style.

My boy life, still god damn doing it up real big as the top medic in the region.

I'm not joking when I say he may be the best in the world. I've watched/streamed so many of his demos.. what a unique, effective style.
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#5
3 Frags +

i love watching the Asian scene play this game, its so different.

i love watching the Asian scene play this game, its so different.
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#6
3 Frags +
kounterpartsi love watching the Asian scene play this game, its so different.

How? I'm genuinely curious.

[quote=kounterparts]i love watching the Asian scene play this game, its so different.[/quote]
How? I'm genuinely curious.
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#7
3 Frags +

Thank you for all your kind support guys :D

Also great thanks to the awesome soul who helped me add the event to the sidebar and the forum page! Much appreciated.

Thank you for all your kind support guys :D

Also great thanks to the awesome soul who helped me add the event to the sidebar and the forum page! Much appreciated.
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#8
1 Frags +

And the bronze match?

And the bronze match?
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#9
1 Frags +
Everton1992And the bronze match?

The match time is to be confirmed, but likely to be some time next week.

I will try to organize a cast for it as well :)

Thank you for your interest!

[quote=Everton1992]And the bronze match?[/quote]
The match time is to be confirmed, but likely to be some time next week.

I will try to organize a cast for it as well :)

Thank you for your interest!
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#10
5 Frags +

yay!

yay!
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#11
9 Frags +

One day we'll get an Asian team to beat froyo Kappa

One day we'll get an Asian team to beat froyo Kappa
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#12
8 Frags +
cinderOne day we'll get an Asian team to beat froyo Kappa

Never say never ;)

[quote=cinder]One day we'll get an Asian team to beat froyo Kappa[/quote]
Never say never ;)
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#13
5 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bNG4rfzMYY

The VOD for anyone interested.

Thanks again for everyone who viewed and supported, special thank you to Caldoran and Tensei for helping get the stream up last minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bNG4rfzMYY

The VOD for anyone interested.

Thanks again for everyone who viewed and supported, special thank you to Caldoran and Tensei for helping get the stream up last minute.
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#14
7 Frags +

asia for i58?

asia for i58?
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#15
9 Frags +

Thanks again guys for playing Logjam in the cup! It is appreciated greatly!

Thanks again guys for playing Logjam in the cup! It is appreciated greatly!
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#16
7 Frags +
Mochaaaaasia for i58?

Would love to see it.
Highly doubt it.

[quote=Mochaaaa]asia for i58?[/quote]
Would love to see it.
Highly doubt it.
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#17
3 Frags +

Won't happen. Even after matchmaking happens, it would still take a good couple of years for everything required for an international team(skill, community backing, etc) to happen.

Won't happen. Even after matchmaking happens, it would [b]still[/b] take a good couple of years for everything required for an international team(skill, community backing, etc) to happen.
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#18
7 Frags +

Honestly I think if people here can cover the costs for an Asian team, we can go ahead and do it anyways. Despite probably being crushed it'll be good to just benchmark ourselves against the rest of the world. Back in August I talked to the Cute Beast leader and he was excited about the idea of going to i55 and from what he told me, it's actually pretty doable.

Honestly I think if people here can cover the costs for an Asian team, we can go ahead and do it anyways. Despite probably being crushed it'll be good to just benchmark ourselves against the rest of the world. Back in August I talked to the Cute Beast leader and he was excited about the idea of going to i55 and from what he told me, it's actually pretty doable.
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#19
4 Frags +
ShounicHonestly I think if people here can cover the costs for an Asian team, we can go ahead and do it anyways. Despite probably being crushed it'll be good to just benchmark ourselves against the rest of the world. Back in August I talked to the Cute Beast leader and he was excited about the idea of going to i55 and from what he told me, it's actually pretty doable.

Let's do it

[quote=Shounic]Honestly I think if people here can cover the costs for an Asian team, we can go ahead and do it anyways. Despite probably being crushed it'll be good to just benchmark ourselves against the rest of the world. Back in August I talked to the Cute Beast leader and he was excited about the idea of going to i55 and from what he told me, it's actually pretty doable.[/quote]

Let's do it
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#20
4 Frags +

Nothing against the Asian scene but I would prefer giving money to the Australians to try to get them for i58 before starting an Asian fundraiser even if it required more money. In an ideal world we could get the Australians, South Americans, and then the Asians but we'll have to see if that's doable for i58, I doubt it but we've done some crazy things.

Nothing against the Asian scene but I would prefer giving money to the Australians to try to get them for i58 before starting an Asian fundraiser even if it required more money. In an ideal world we could get the Australians, South Americans, and then the Asians but we'll have to see if that's doable for i58, I doubt it but we've done some crazy things.
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#21
1 Frags +

Well it would be a "truer" international lan. But that's a pipe dream, to see teams from other countries contest previous i series winners at i58

Well it would be a "truer" international lan. But that's a pipe dream, to see teams from other countries contest previous i series winners at i58
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#22
13 Frags +

I'd be really interested to see how the best Asian teams stack up against the Europeans, Americans and Aussies.

I'm just watching the VOD right now and I really like that asiafortress are making casts and I'd like to see more. I thought I'd give some constructive criticism for the cast.

1. Your casters sound a bit bored sometimes, they need to get excited! The casters are there to hype up the game and make it more interesting as well as tell you what's going on and imparting their knowledge of the game. They perked up a bit sometimes but they can do more. If there's not much happening or there's a pause then talk about what's happened already. In pauses especially try and analyse the situation and talk about what could happen next etc.

Actually having watched it a bit more the casters get better with time, maybe they just need to warm up a bit?

2. During the pre-game the casters were far too quiet, the pre-game time is actually really important and for the first few mins the casters were barely talking. Talk about the teams and their history a bit more. This is especially important for asiafortress as many of us outside of asia are unfamiliar with these players.

In general some casters to follow the example of include: Gecks, Sideshow, Admirable and Sigafoo

3. Your casters don't talk over each other much which is great but generally it's nice to have either:

a) A caster who deals with each event as it happens (Play by Play caster) and a caster who is the analyst who goes over what happened and why in the dead time in between events.

b) 2 casters who take it in turn to swap roles. This is not as common as a) but it works, maincall.tf used to do it to great effect and it's kinda what Arx & Beta do too but it's tricky to pull off and requires your casters to really know each other

3. The match overlay is ok but I'd make the health and name bars a bit bigger and move that down to the center of the left hand side instead of having it up in the top left. It's important information to have on the screen and I found it was a bit hard to read sometimes. I personally think TFTV's overlay has it all. It's bigger, in a better place and it also has separate bars for ubercharge which are really useful for keeping track of who has the advantage.

4. The cameraman needs to follow individual's PoV's more rather than showing a top down view. TF2 is not an easy game to follow for a viewer as there is a lot going on so it's very important the cameraman tries to catch the "highlights" of the game. Davidthewin is a great example of this especially during the i55 coverage. I don't know exactly how this is done but I know that using live logs really helps as it shows you what's happening before you see it happen on the STV due to the delay. Also as was covered by your casters, Turn your steam notification sounds off! I think I also saw your cameraman's cursor floating around on the screen during one of the granary mid fights ;)

5. The Scoreboard isn't important, don't show it during the game.

6. I personally don't like the pre-game overlay with the border. It makes the important information small. Don't be scared covering up the screen during the pre-game dm fest, it's not important and most casters actually switch away from the STV for the majority of it. Again TFTV is a great example of how an overlay could be done, especially important imo is having the scores for all the maps in the corner somewhere.

7. If there's nothing to say then go to a break. It's better to listen to music than listen to your poor casters struggling to find something to say. They end up talking about the cosmetics of the players before sunshine the poor souls.

Having said all of that, it's a promising start and I'd like to see these casts continue. Regards from the UK!

I'd be really interested to see how the best Asian teams stack up against the Europeans, Americans and Aussies.

I'm just watching the VOD right now and I really like that asiafortress are making casts and I'd like to see more. I thought I'd give some constructive criticism for the cast.

1. Your casters sound a bit bored sometimes, they need to get excited! The casters are there to hype up the game and make it more interesting as well as tell you what's going on and imparting their knowledge of the game. They perked up a bit sometimes but they can do more. If there's not much happening or there's a pause then talk about what's happened already. In pauses especially try and analyse the situation and talk about what could happen next etc.

Actually having watched it a bit more the casters get better with time, maybe they just need to warm up a bit?

2. During the pre-game the casters were far too quiet, the pre-game time is actually really important and for the first few mins the casters were barely talking. Talk about the teams and their history a bit more. This is especially important for asiafortress as many of us outside of asia are unfamiliar with these players.

In general some casters to follow the example of include: Gecks, Sideshow, Admirable and Sigafoo

3. Your casters don't talk over each other much which is great but generally it's nice to have either:

a) A caster who deals with each event as it happens (Play by Play caster) and a caster who is the analyst who goes over what happened and why in the dead time in between events.

b) 2 casters who take it in turn to swap roles. This is not as common as a) but it works, maincall.tf used to do it to great effect and it's kinda what Arx & Beta do too but it's tricky to pull off and requires your casters to really know each other

3. The match overlay is ok but I'd make the health and name bars a bit bigger and move that down to the center of the left hand side instead of having it up in the top left. It's important information to have on the screen and I found it was a bit hard to read sometimes. I personally think TFTV's overlay has it all. It's bigger, in a better place and it also has separate bars for ubercharge which are really useful for keeping track of who has the advantage.

4. The cameraman needs to follow individual's PoV's more rather than showing a top down view. TF2 is not an easy game to follow for a viewer as there is a lot going on so it's very important the cameraman tries to catch the "highlights" of the game. Davidthewin is a great example of this especially during the i55 coverage. I don't know exactly how this is done but I know that using live logs really helps as it shows you what's happening before you see it happen on the STV due to the delay. Also as was covered by your casters, Turn your steam notification sounds off! I think I also saw your cameraman's cursor floating around on the screen during one of the granary mid fights ;)

5. The Scoreboard isn't important, don't show it during the game.

6. I personally don't like the pre-game overlay with the border. It makes the important information small. Don't be scared covering up the screen during the pre-game dm fest, it's not important and most casters actually switch away from the STV for the majority of it. Again TFTV is a great example of how an overlay could be done, especially important imo is having the scores for all the maps in the corner somewhere.

7. If there's nothing to say then go to a break. It's better to listen to music than listen to your poor casters struggling to find something to say. They end up talking about the cosmetics of the players before sunshine the poor souls.

Having said all of that, it's a promising start and I'd like to see these casts continue. Regards from the UK!
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#23
4 Frags +
universeNothing against the Asian scene but I would prefer giving money to the Australians to try to get them for i58 before starting an Asian fundraiser even if it required more money. In an ideal world we could get the Australians, South Americans, and then the Asians but we'll have to see if that's doable for i58, I doubt it but we've done some crazy things.

As an asian myself, I think what you said is probably right for the majority of the people. I would proabably donate to the Austrailians, as they have a better chance of competing in the i-series

[quote=universe]Nothing against the Asian scene but I would prefer giving money to the Australians to try to get them for i58 before starting an Asian fundraiser even if it required more money. In an ideal world we could get the Australians, South Americans, and then the Asians but we'll have to see if that's doable for i58, I doubt it but we've done some crazy things.[/quote]
As an asian myself, I think what you said is probably right for the majority of the people. I would proabably donate to the Austrailians, as they have a better chance of competing in the i-series
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#24
-3 Frags +

nohate but asian tf2 looks nowhere near the highest level on the other continents. looks more like div2 games

nohate but asian tf2 looks nowhere near the highest level on the other continents. looks more like div2 games
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#25
5 Frags +

Thank you so much for the feedback thus far, especially rem_TF2 for the well versed criticism.

Still working on getting these more prepared on not rushed in future and we'll definitely work on getting a separate cameraman among other improvements as well.

For everyone that watched thank you for tuning in and hopefully not too many people lost their winnings if they somehow bet on emi at the saloon ;)

Thank you so much for the feedback thus far, especially rem_TF2 for the well versed criticism.

Still working on getting these more prepared on not rushed in future and we'll definitely work on getting a separate cameraman among other improvements as well.

For everyone that watched thank you for tuning in and hopefully not too many people lost their winnings if they somehow bet on emi at the saloon ;)
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