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#181
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I like how everyone here talking shit about froyo really doesnt know whats going on at all and when an invite player has anything to say about froyo that is actually reasonable they get an instant -38 frags. Granted, Clockwork couldve came off in a better manner but when people who really dont know what is going on are bashing them when its already over with and you cant do anything to bring it back, I DONT BLAME HIM. Everyone needs to chill take a step back and look at it from their perspective (Timezone issues, Family, Last-minute occurances) Everyone who has been talking shit about Froyo needs to stop because in doing so you are worsening the situation and being counterproductive.

Just my thoughts.

Sorry, Not Sorry.

I like how everyone here talking shit about froyo really doesnt know whats going on at all and when an invite player has anything to say about froyo that is actually reasonable they get an instant -38 frags. Granted, Clockwork couldve came off in a better manner but when people who really dont know what is going on are bashing them when its already over with and you cant do anything to bring it back, I DONT BLAME HIM. Everyone needs to chill take a step back and look at it from their perspective (Timezone issues, Family, Last-minute occurances) Everyone who has been talking shit about Froyo needs to stop because in doing so you are worsening the situation and being counterproductive.

Just my thoughts.

Sorry, Not Sorry.
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#182
18 Frags +
DomTheWhiteGuyI like how everyone here talking shit about froyo really doesnt know whats going on at all and when an invite player has anything to say about froyo that is actually reasonable they get an instant -38 frags. Granted, Clockwork couldve came off in a better manner but when people who really dont know what is going on are bashing them when its already over with and you cant do anything to bring it back, I DONT BLAME HIM. Everyone needs to chill take a step back and look at it from their perspective (Timezone issues, Family, Last-minute occurances) Everyone who has been talking shit about Froyo needs to stop because in doing so you are worsening the situation and being counterproductive.

Just my thoughts.

Sorry, Not Sorry.

People didn't -frag clock for his reasons, they -fragged him because instead of giving reasons he just tried to pick on one person

[quote=DomTheWhiteGuy]I like how everyone here talking shit about froyo really doesnt know whats going on at all and when an invite player has anything to say about froyo that is actually reasonable they get an instant -38 frags. Granted, Clockwork couldve came off in a better manner but when people who really dont know what is going on are bashing them when its already over with and you cant do anything to bring it back, I DONT BLAME HIM. Everyone needs to chill take a step back and look at it from their perspective (Timezone issues, Family, Last-minute occurances) Everyone who has been talking shit about Froyo needs to stop because in doing so you are worsening the situation and being counterproductive.

Just my thoughts.

Sorry, Not Sorry.[/quote]

People didn't -frag clock for his reasons, they -fragged him because instead of giving reasons he just tried to pick on one person
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#183
-7 Frags +
DomTheWhiteGuyI like how everyone here talking shit about froyo really doesnt know whats going on at all and when an invite player has anything to say about froyo that is actually reasonable they get an instant -38 frags. Granted, Clockwork couldve came off in a better manner but when people who really dont know what is going on are bashing them when its already over with and you cant do anything to bring it back, I DONT BLAME HIM. Everyone needs to chill take a step back and look at it from their perspective (Timezone issues, Family, Last-minute occurances) Everyone who has been talking shit about Froyo needs to stop because in doing so you are worsening the situation and being counterproductive.

Just my thoughts.

Sorry, Not Sorry.

Yeah I'm just waiting to get -20 frags because I said that all of this was just some simple miscommunication. :/ Hope people read what b4nny and others have posted and realize that all of this was really just a lack of communication between multiple parties, which happens, and quit bashing froyo for not showing up/saying why they didn't show up.

[quote=DomTheWhiteGuy]I like how everyone here talking shit about froyo really doesnt know whats going on at all and when an invite player has anything to say about froyo that is actually reasonable they get an instant -38 frags. Granted, Clockwork couldve came off in a better manner but when people who really dont know what is going on are bashing them when its already over with and you cant do anything to bring it back, I DONT BLAME HIM. Everyone needs to chill take a step back and look at it from their perspective (Timezone issues, Family, Last-minute occurances) Everyone who has been talking shit about Froyo needs to stop because in doing so you are worsening the situation and being counterproductive.

Just my thoughts.

Sorry, Not Sorry.[/quote]

Yeah I'm just waiting to get -20 frags because I said that all of this was just some simple miscommunication. :/ Hope people read what b4nny and others have posted and realize that all of this was really just a lack of communication between multiple parties, which happens, and quit bashing froyo for not showing up/saying why they didn't show up.
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#184
-6 Frags +

This can be avoided if instead of b4nny showing a pic of his team offline, he (or another Froyo member) could have better explained the situation. not saying it was b4nny's fault, just agree it was terrible communication

This can be avoided if instead of b4nny showing a pic of his team offline, he (or another Froyo member) could have better explained the situation. not saying it was b4nny's fault, just agree it was terrible communication
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#185
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luigi_manDomTheWhiteGuyI like how everyone here talking shit about froyo really doesnt know whats going on at all and when an invite player has anything to say about froyo that is actually reasonable they get an instant -38 frags. Granted, Clockwork couldve came off in a better manner but when people who really dont know what is going on are bashing them when its already over with and you cant do anything to bring it back, I DONT BLAME HIM. Everyone needs to chill take a step back and look at it from their perspective (Timezone issues, Family, Last-minute occurances) Everyone who has been talking shit about Froyo needs to stop because in doing so you are worsening the situation and being counterproductive.

Just my thoughts.

Sorry, Not Sorry.

Yeah I'm just waiting to get -20 frags because I said that all of this was just some simple miscommunication. :/ Hope people read what b4nny and others have posted and realize that all of this was really just a lack of communication between multiple parties, which happens, and quit bashing froyo for not showing up/saying why they didn't show up.

I got your back dude.

[quote=luigi_man][quote=DomTheWhiteGuy]I like how everyone here talking shit about froyo really doesnt know whats going on at all and when an invite player has anything to say about froyo that is actually reasonable they get an instant -38 frags. Granted, Clockwork couldve came off in a better manner but when people who really dont know what is going on are bashing them when its already over with and you cant do anything to bring it back, I DONT BLAME HIM. Everyone needs to chill take a step back and look at it from their perspective (Timezone issues, Family, Last-minute occurances) Everyone who has been talking shit about Froyo needs to stop because in doing so you are worsening the situation and being counterproductive.

Just my thoughts.

Sorry, Not Sorry.[/quote]

Yeah I'm just waiting to get -20 frags because I said that all of this was just some simple miscommunication. :/ Hope people read what b4nny and others have posted and realize that all of this was really just a lack of communication between multiple parties, which happens, and quit bashing froyo for not showing up/saying why they didn't show up.[/quote]

I got your back dude.
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#186
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deetrDomTheWhiteGuyI like how everyone here talking shit about froyo really doesnt know whats going on at all and when an invite player has anything to say about froyo that is actually reasonable they get an instant -38 frags. Granted, Clockwork couldve came off in a better manner but when people who really dont know what is going on are bashing them when its already over with and you cant do anything to bring it back, I DONT BLAME HIM. Everyone needs to chill take a step back and look at it from their perspective (Timezone issues, Family, Last-minute occurances) Everyone who has been talking shit about Froyo needs to stop because in doing so you are worsening the situation and being counterproductive.

Just my thoughts.

Sorry, Not Sorry.

People didn't -frag clock for his reasons, they -fragged him because instead of giving reasons he just tried to pick on one person

Even then, its still incredibly counterproductive to be talking shit about the issue when you have no say in the issue. You (among others) were just theory-crafting and worsening the issue without any true knowledge of what happened. Like I had said granted he probably should have came off in a better manner, but I dont blame him.

[quote=deetr][quote=DomTheWhiteGuy]I like how everyone here talking shit about froyo really doesnt know whats going on at all and when an invite player has anything to say about froyo that is actually reasonable they get an instant -38 frags. Granted, Clockwork couldve came off in a better manner but when people who really dont know what is going on are bashing them when its already over with and you cant do anything to bring it back, I DONT BLAME HIM. Everyone needs to chill take a step back and look at it from their perspective (Timezone issues, Family, Last-minute occurances) Everyone who has been talking shit about Froyo needs to stop because in doing so you are worsening the situation and being counterproductive.

Just my thoughts.

Sorry, Not Sorry.[/quote]

People didn't -frag clock for his reasons, they -fragged him because instead of giving reasons he just tried to pick on one person[/quote]

Even then, its still incredibly counterproductive to be talking shit about the issue when you have no say in the issue. You (among others) were just theory-crafting and worsening the issue without any true knowledge of what happened. Like I had said granted he probably should have came off in a better manner, but I dont blame him.
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#187
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b4nnyAs far as I know, we got involved with this tournament somehow through a casual conversation between clockwork and one of his many EU friends that was involved in the organization of this event. My understanding of it was that it was a tentative agreement and that clockwork never promised we would be there nor with any roster even remotely resembling our starting 6. He's not even the leader of the team, I am, and I was never approached/contacted by anyone organizing this to either be invited or to confirm any details whatsoever. Admittedly, I could have sought them out, but I was under the assumption that clockwork and everyone behind the scenes were on the same page and had it handled. The impression I got was that this was supposed to be a casual, "if it happens it happens," kind of tournament where we would just pugscrim and feel out some of the other teams while getting rick rolled due to our ping disadvantage. Because of that, and the seeming lack of pressure behind this whole thing, I honestly never really expected to play or at the very least place well in this tournament.

The thing with this though is...

TF2 BlogThe best teams in Europe—Reason Gaming, The Last Resort and nerdRage.tf2—are lining up to take on froyotech, the current world champions. Four other LAN hopefuls have been thrown in with these lions to fight tooth and nail one last time before they enter into the LAN arena a month from now at one of TF2's biggest intercontinental tournaments, Insomnia55.

- August 13th

I have to assume this somewhat of an agreement happened before this blog post. Considering that and then seeing it as basically set in stone via this blog post, I just hope you guys ended up having the fullest of intentions of going through with it. If up front it was a straight up "maybe", then I wouldn't consider it Froyo's fault Valve advertised you guys in such a light.

edit: Unless I am understanding this blog post incorrectly.

[quote=b4nny]As far as I know, we got involved with this tournament somehow through a casual conversation between clockwork and one of his many EU friends that was involved in the organization of this event. My understanding of it was that it was a tentative agreement and that clockwork never promised we would be there nor with any roster even remotely resembling our starting 6. He's not even the leader of the team, I am, and I was never approached/contacted by anyone organizing this to either be invited or to confirm any details whatsoever. Admittedly, I could have sought them out, but I was under the assumption that clockwork and everyone behind the scenes were on the same page and had it handled. The impression I got was that this was supposed to be a casual, "if it happens it happens," kind of tournament where we would just pugscrim and feel out some of the other teams while getting rick rolled due to our ping disadvantage. Because of that, and the seeming lack of pressure behind this whole thing, I honestly never really expected to play or at the very least place well in this tournament.[/quote]

The thing with this though is...

[quote=TF2 Blog]The best teams in Europe—Reason Gaming, The Last Resort and nerdRage.tf2—[b]are lining up to take on froyotech[/b], the current world champions. Four other LAN hopefuls have been thrown in with these lions to fight tooth and nail one last time before they enter into the LAN arena a month from now at one of TF2's biggest intercontinental tournaments, Insomnia55.[/quote] - August 13th

I have to assume this somewhat of an agreement happened before this blog post. Considering that and then seeing it as basically set in stone via this blog post, I just hope you guys ended up having the fullest of intentions of going through with it. If up front it was a straight up "maybe", then I wouldn't consider it Froyo's fault Valve advertised you guys in such a light.

edit: Unless I am understanding this blog post incorrectly.
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#188
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http://i.imgur.com/ZvRz2Qh.gif

[img]http://i.imgur.com/ZvRz2Qh.gif[/img]
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#189
9 Frags +

tldr froyo got lazy and frgot to go to tournament b4nny is sorry. it was thier mistake. ok.

tldr froyo got lazy and frgot to go to tournament b4nny is sorry. it was thier mistake. ok.
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#190
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who the fuck cares haha. u guys all need to chill out. Lets play some fucking video games!!!

who the fuck cares haha. u guys all need to chill out. Lets play some fucking video games!!!
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#191
9 Frags +
DomTheWhiteGuydeetrDomTheWhiteGuyI like how everyone here talking shit about froyo really doesnt know whats going on at all and when an invite player has anything to say about froyo that is actually reasonable they get an instant -38 frags. Granted, Clockwork couldve came off in a better manner but when people who really dont know what is going on are bashing them when its already over with and you cant do anything to bring it back, I DONT BLAME HIM. Everyone needs to chill take a step back and look at it from their perspective (Timezone issues, Family, Last-minute occurances) Everyone who has been talking shit about Froyo needs to stop because in doing so you are worsening the situation and being counterproductive.

Just my thoughts.

Sorry, Not Sorry.

People didn't -frag clock for his reasons, they -fragged him because instead of giving reasons he just tried to pick on one person

Even then, its still incredibly counterproductive to be talking shit about the issue when you have no say in the issue. You (among others) were just theory-crafting and worsening the issue without any true knowledge of what happened. Like I had said granted he probably should have came off in a better manner, but I dont blame him.

I didn't say anything about the issue, all I said was that basically telling somebody to fuck off is not the right way to deal with the situation even if it is what you feel

[quote=DomTheWhiteGuy][quote=deetr][quote=DomTheWhiteGuy]I like how everyone here talking shit about froyo really doesnt know whats going on at all and when an invite player has anything to say about froyo that is actually reasonable they get an instant -38 frags. Granted, Clockwork couldve came off in a better manner but when people who really dont know what is going on are bashing them when its already over with and you cant do anything to bring it back, I DONT BLAME HIM. Everyone needs to chill take a step back and look at it from their perspective (Timezone issues, Family, Last-minute occurances) Everyone who has been talking shit about Froyo needs to stop because in doing so you are worsening the situation and being counterproductive.

Just my thoughts.

Sorry, Not Sorry.[/quote]

People didn't -frag clock for his reasons, they -fragged him because instead of giving reasons he just tried to pick on one person[/quote]

Even then, its still incredibly counterproductive to be talking shit about the issue when you have no say in the issue. You (among others) were just theory-crafting and worsening the issue without any true knowledge of what happened. Like I had said granted he probably should have came off in a better manner, but I dont blame him.[/quote]

I didn't say anything about the issue, all I said was that basically telling somebody to fuck off is not the right way to deal with the situation even if it is what you feel
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#192
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showstopperPlatinumlol
HOLY FUCK MIXUP CONFIRMED RETURNING FOR i58...HYPE HOLY SHIT...
harbleu#bringbackmixup

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[quote=showstopper][quote=Platinum]lol[/quote]

HOLY FUCK MIXUP CONFIRMED RETURNING FOR i58...HYPE HOLY SHIT...[/quote]


[quote=harbleu]#bringbackmixup[/quote]

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#193
7 Frags +

This is probably really late but I feel like everyone is waiting for this enormous apology from each individual member of Froyotech and they are. You guys are seriously blowing this out of proportion in the way that each member most likely had a valid excuse and 3 members have already given some sort of explanation albeit two of them had a rude way of saying it, but they can't just sit there and stand getting talked about in a bad manner and not respond rudely. I understand that since they are the #1 team in North America that they should have an air of professionalism circling around them but at this point of the thread I don't think a lot of teams could handle all this trashtalk about them. I agree that they do need to apologize but I'm not sure that a thread with near 210 posts all talking about them in a bad manner, this isn't the end of the world and half of Froyo do their own part in streaming and trying to get more and more people to play this game and in no way missing one tournament can possibly kill this games hopes of staying alive.

This is probably really late but I feel like everyone is waiting for this enormous apology from each individual member of Froyotech and they are. You guys are seriously blowing this out of proportion in the way that each member most likely had a valid excuse and 3 members have already given some sort of explanation albeit two of them had a rude way of saying it, but they can't just sit there and stand getting talked about in a bad manner and not respond rudely. I understand that since they are the #1 team in North America that they should have an air of professionalism circling around them but at this point of the thread I don't think a lot of teams could handle all this trashtalk about them. I agree that they do need to apologize but I'm not sure that a thread with near 210 posts all talking about them in a bad manner, this isn't the end of the world and half of Froyo do their own part in streaming and trying to get more and more people to play this game and in no way missing one tournament can possibly kill this games hopes of staying alive.
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#194
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this slip up effected probably <1% of the people who have posted in this thread and ur talking like ur some epic froyotech insiders. get some info before you post. ur all like donald trump if he was on tftv

this slip up effected probably <1% of the people who have posted in this thread and ur talking like ur some epic froyotech insiders. get some info before you post. ur all like donald trump if he was on tftv
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#195
5 Frags +

A lot of assumptions were made that in an ideal situation shouldn't, also some people could've approached the issue more cautiously. But the burden to be the better men, in this situation, falls more heavily on Froyo's side. Frustration, as I've already said, is to be expected if someone simply doesn't show up for a highly important(in it's context) event like this. A more mature and adequate position from clockwork, imo, would be to first keep his chill and explain the circumstances that led to today, then, secondly, address Alkaline's posts without any sarcasm.

A lot of assumptions were made that in an ideal situation shouldn't, also some people could've approached the issue more cautiously. But the burden to be the better men, in this situation, falls more heavily on Froyo's side. Frustration, as I've already said, is to be expected if someone simply doesn't show up for a highly important(in it's context) event like this. A more mature and adequate position from clockwork, imo, would be to [b]first[/b] keep his chill and explain the circumstances that led to today, then, [b]secondly[/b], address Alkaline's posts without any sarcasm.
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#196
-1 Frags +

why care when you dont have to and still do well

why care when you dont have to and still do well
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#197
12 Frags +

shit happens, there were still some amazing games that was played

shit happens, there were still some amazing games that was played
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#198
11 Frags +

I can't believe you guys managed to get 100 posts on this thread. Over a situation that was clearly a mistake..

Anyone who actually finds what they did that big of a deal really needs to relax.

I can't believe you guys managed to get 100 posts on this thread. Over a situation that was clearly a mistake..

Anyone who actually finds what they did [i]that[/i] big of a deal really needs to relax.
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#199
3 Frags +

This has to be the most cancerous thing ever... All the time I hear people talking about how great the TF2 community is. And I agree. The TF2 community is usually pretty great. I enjoy being apart of it. And then I read all through this thread... I'll admit, after watching nearly the entire GGG stream today, I was a little disappointed to not see Froyotech, awful ping or nah. But that didn't take away from my enjoyment of seeing good TF2. It genuinely made me even more hyped for i55. And then I get on good old teamfortress.tv and see this thread. Normally I'm excited for some juicy drama, but this isnt drama. This is a bunch of people striking out at others and it is really disgusting. Honestly, this thread should be removed, everyone should forget about this, enjoy the rest of the GGG tournament, and just be happy until i55.
- Some insignificant nobody who loves this game

This has to be the most cancerous thing ever... All the time I hear people talking about how great the TF2 community is. And I agree. The TF2 community is usually pretty great. I enjoy being apart of it. And then I read all through this thread... I'll admit, after watching nearly the entire GGG stream today, I was a little disappointed to not see Froyotech, awful ping or nah. But that didn't take away from my enjoyment of seeing good TF2. It genuinely made me even more hyped for i55. And then I get on good old teamfortress.tv and see this thread. Normally I'm excited for some juicy drama, but this isnt drama. This is a bunch of people striking out at others and it is really disgusting. Honestly, this thread should be removed, everyone should forget about this, enjoy the rest of the GGG tournament, and just be happy until i55.
- Some insignificant nobody who loves this game
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#200
3 Frags +

why can't we be friends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5OXON8vIaA

why can't we be friends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5OXON8vIaA
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#201
-4 Frags +

I am also disappointed that I couldn't see froyotech in the GGG. I waited until 5 am to watch froyotech, but sad that they didn't show up.
However, there was certainly a miscommunication between people who managed the GGG and froyotech.
B4nny has no fault at all.

I am also disappointed that I couldn't see froyotech in the GGG. I waited until 5 am to watch froyotech, but sad that they didn't show up.
However, there was certainly a miscommunication between people who managed the GGG and froyotech.
B4nny has no fault at all.
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#202
18 Frags +
LightstrikerI am also disappointed that I couldn't see froyotech in the GGG. I waited until 5 am to watch froyotech, but sad that they didn't show up.
However, there was certainly a miscommunication between people who managed the GGG and froyotech.
B4nny has no fault at all.
b4nnyUltimately it was my fault for not being more on top of this.
[quote=Lightstriker]I am also disappointed that I couldn't see froyotech in the GGG. I waited until 5 am to watch froyotech, but sad that they didn't show up.
However, there was certainly a miscommunication between people who managed the GGG and froyotech.
[b]B4nny has no fault at all[/b].[/quote]

[quote=b4nny]Ultimately it was my fault for not being more on top of this.
[/quote]
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#203
2 Frags +
xhodz"kid"

that's so fucking condescending, it's not even funny.

Take the time to read the entire quote before you jump on somebody for a single word, especially when it's irrelevant to the rest of the post and the topic at hand. The quote he responded to by Charles32Tevs had the word "kid" in it. At this point, I feel it's completely justified. The majority of people in this thread are acting like, and truly are, children. Some of us have real jobs. Some of us don't live with our parents, and on the rare chances we get to see them, family comes first. Trying to communicating between NA and EU is difficult, at best, when it things come up. This is just a game, and shit happens.

[quote=xhodz]"kid"

that's so fucking condescending, it's not even funny.[/quote]

Take the time to read the entire quote before you jump on somebody for a single word, especially when it's irrelevant to the rest of the post and the topic at hand. The quote he responded to by Charles32Tevs had the word "kid" [i]in[/i] it. At this point, I feel it's completely justified. The majority of people in this thread are acting like, and truly are, children. Some of us have real jobs. Some of us don't live with our parents, and on the rare chances we get to see them, [b]family comes first[/b]. Trying to communicating between NA and EU is difficult, at best, when it things come up. This is just a game, and shit happens.
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#204
18 Frags +

Dude just let this thread die, froyo and management had unfortanate misunderstanding, and some angry people grabbed their pitchforks, and some froyo members were justifiably angry that unjust anger was being directed at them. B4nny cleared things up and The End.

Dude just let this thread die, froyo and management had unfortanate misunderstanding, and some angry people grabbed their pitchforks, and some froyo members were justifiably angry that unjust anger was being directed at them. B4nny cleared things up and [i]The End[/i].
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#205
20 Frags +

There were some sweet frags though, can't wait for beater's frag compilation

Last person to post is the man

There were some sweet frags though, can't wait for beater's frag compilation

Last person to post is the man
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