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I've been having an annoying issue, I've had screen tear persist.

Sometimes it's nonexistant, but more commonly it's just enough to catch my eye and annoy me.

I've got a 60Hz monitor, and i usually keep fps maxed at 61. I've changed it to 65, changed it to lower (58-59), I've turned vsync on and off, i've uninstalled my mods, but no matter what i do there's still that slight bit of screen tear.

Is there a common reason for this, or solution? Or maybe an explanation of how it works may help, because it seems i can't quite deduce the issue.

I've been having an annoying issue, I've had screen tear persist.

Sometimes it's nonexistant, but more commonly it's [i]just enough[/i] to catch my eye and annoy me.

I've got a 60Hz monitor, and i usually keep fps maxed at 61. I've changed it to 65, changed it to lower (58-59), I've turned vsync on and off, i've uninstalled my mods, but no matter what i do there's still that slight bit of screen tear.

Is there a common reason for this, or solution? Or maybe an explanation of how it works may help, because it seems i can't quite deduce the issue.
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remove the cap or cap it above 100, vsync off

you can see more than 60 frames on a 60hz monitor

remove the cap or cap it above 100, vsync off

you can see more than 60 frames on a 60hz monitor
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i dont think there's a reason to cap fps unless you're using in game accel

but if you must id recommend at least 121 while playing at 60hz

i dont think there's a reason to cap fps unless you're using in game accel

but if you must id recommend at least 121 while playing at 60hz
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RainofLightremove the cap or cap it above 100, vsync off

you can see more than 60 frames on a 60hz monitor

I have it set to 61 for stream/youtube, though in theory it would make more sense to cap it at 121 and set the recorder to 60. Thanks, i'll give that a shot.

[quote=RainofLight]remove the cap or cap it above 100, vsync off

you can see more than 60 frames on a 60hz monitor[/quote]

I have it set to 61 for stream/youtube, though in theory it would make more sense to cap it at 121 and set the recorder to 60. Thanks, i'll give that a shot.
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don't just limit it like that there's other things that could be affected by frame rate other than your monitor.

remove the limit or put it at like 300 or something.

don't just limit it like that there's other things that could be affected by frame rate other than your monitor.

remove the limit or put it at like 300 or something.
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cp_granary_pro
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are you on win 7?

are you on win 7?
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Set the limit to 121 (hz * 2 + 1)

Set the limit to 121 (hz * 2 + 1)
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Phrakturei dont think there's a reason to cap fps unless you're using in game accel

but if you must id recommend at least 121 while playing at 60hz

CPU temps, especially if you're on a laptop. Though capping to around 100fps is usually fine for laptop users.

Raising the FPS cap, or trying to find a higher refresh rate monitor would help a lot.

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If you or anybody else who views this really wants to get the most refresh rate at 1080p on single link dvi these setting should work for you if you use CRU (custom resolution utility) http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU

http://i.imgur.com/366dgNK.png

I left a tiny bit of room for overhead so that way you're not 100% maxing out the capabilities of the monitor. (You could reach 76Hz if you wanted to.)

That should also help reduce screen tearing.

[quote=Phrakture]i dont think there's a reason to cap fps unless you're using in game accel

but if you must id recommend at least 121 while playing at 60hz[/quote]

CPU temps, especially if you're on a laptop. Though capping to around 100fps is usually fine for laptop users.

Raising the FPS cap, or trying to find a higher refresh rate monitor would help a lot.

-edit-
If you or anybody else who views this really wants to get the most refresh rate at 1080p on single link dvi these setting should work for you if you use CRU (custom resolution utility) http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU

[img]http://i.imgur.com/366dgNK.png[/img]

I left a tiny bit of room for overhead so that way you're not 100% maxing out the capabilities of the monitor. (You could reach 76Hz if you wanted to.)

That should also help reduce screen tearing.
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fps_max 121

fps_max 121
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ComangliaPhrakturei dont think there's a reason to cap fps unless you're using in game accel

but if you must id recommend at least 121 while playing at 60hz

CPU temps, especially if you're on a laptop. Though capping to around 100fps is usually fine for laptop users.

Raising the FPS cap, or trying to find a higher refresh rate monitor would help a lot.

-edit-
If you or anybody else who views this really wants to get the most refresh rate at 1080p on single link dvi these setting should work for you if you use CRU (custom resolution utility) http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU

http://i.imgur.com/366dgNK.png

I left a tiny bit of room for overhead so that way you're not 100% maxing out the capabilities of the monitor. (You could reach 76Hz if you wanted to.)

That should also help reduce screen tearing.

Sorry for the bump, but can anyone tell me can you "overclock" a laptop monotor?

[quote=Comanglia][quote=Phrakture]i dont think there's a reason to cap fps unless you're using in game accel

but if you must id recommend at least 121 while playing at 60hz[/quote]

CPU temps, especially if you're on a laptop. Though capping to around 100fps is usually fine for laptop users.

Raising the FPS cap, or trying to find a higher refresh rate monitor would help a lot.

-edit-
If you or anybody else who views this really wants to get the most refresh rate at 1080p on single link dvi these setting should work for you if you use CRU (custom resolution utility) http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU

[img]http://i.imgur.com/366dgNK.png[/img]

I left a tiny bit of room for overhead so that way you're not 100% maxing out the capabilities of the monitor. (You could reach 76Hz if you wanted to.)

That should also help reduce screen tearing.[/quote]
Sorry for the bump, but can anyone tell me can you "overclock" a laptop monotor?
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nvm sorry didnt notice this thread was necroed

nvm sorry didnt notice this thread was necroed
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#10 custom timings
Easiest way for me has been using nvidia's drivers
You can always just use CRU and use CVT reduced timings and go from there
I oc'd my laptop's panel to 105Hz from 60Hz stable

#10 custom timings
Easiest way for me has been using nvidia's drivers
You can always just use CRU and use CVT reduced timings and go from there
I oc'd my laptop's panel to 105Hz from 60Hz stable
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Dave_#10 custom timings
Easiest way for me has been using nvidia's drivers
You can always just use CRU and use CVT reduced timings and go from there
I oc'd my laptop's panel to 105Hz from 60Hz stable

Can't seem to see monitor settings in my nvidia panel :/
Laptop is Lenovo z580

[quote=Dave_]#10 custom timings
Easiest way for me has been using nvidia's drivers
You can always just use CRU and use CVT reduced timings and go from there
I oc'd my laptop's panel to 105Hz from 60Hz stable[/quote]
Can't seem to see monitor settings in my nvidia panel :/
Laptop is Lenovo z580
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fr3fouDave_#10 custom timings
Easiest way for me has been using nvidia's drivers
You can always just use CRU and use CVT reduced timings and go from there
I oc'd my laptop's panel to 105Hz from 60Hz stable
Can't seem to see monitor settings in my nvidia panel :/
Laptop is Lenovo z580

Hard to believe. You may have to enable advanced settings or whatever. If not you can just use CRU.

[quote=fr3fou][quote=Dave_]#10 custom timings
Easiest way for me has been using nvidia's drivers
You can always just use CRU and use CVT reduced timings and go from there
I oc'd my laptop's panel to 105Hz from 60Hz stable[/quote]
Can't seem to see monitor settings in my nvidia panel :/
Laptop is Lenovo z580[/quote]

Hard to believe. You may have to enable advanced settings or whatever. If not you can just use CRU.
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Maybe you just have a bad monitor? What framerate do you usually run at? The higher the framerate reduces frame latency and therefore should reduce potential for screen tearing.

If a little screen tearing bothers you 144hz is probably the way to go. I would try a friend's first to make sure it's not an issue bound to your computer or software. If that's not an option you could ask to try one at like a local pc store, they're usually pretty cool with that stuff.

Maybe you just have a bad monitor? What framerate do you usually run at? The higher the framerate reduces frame latency and therefore should reduce potential for screen tearing.

If a little screen tearing bothers you 144hz is probably the way to go. I would try a friend's first to make sure it's not an issue bound to your computer or software. If that's not an option you could ask to try one at like a local pc store, they're usually pretty cool with that stuff.
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Use a different application to limit FPS.

I've been using the framerate limiter built into RivaTuner Statistics Server provided with MSI afterburner software.

AMD's new crimson driver has a frame limiter as well.

Use a different application to limit FPS.

I've been using the framerate limiter built into RivaTuner Statistics Server provided with MSI afterburner software.

AMD's new crimson driver has a frame limiter as well.
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fr3fouDave_#10 custom timings
Easiest way for me has been using nvidia's drivers
You can always just use CRU and use CVT reduced timings and go from there
I oc'd my laptop's panel to 105Hz from 60Hz stable
Can't seem to see monitor settings in my nvidia panel :/
Laptop is Lenovo z580

The Lenovo z580 uses Intel HD Graphics 4k with which the only supported refresh rates would be avaiable under you Intel HD Graphics Control Panel. It seems very unlikely that it will support anything over 60hz on the laptops monitor or anything over 75hz on an external. I played on a laptop for a long time and I consistently had bad tearing. This happened terribly when I wasn't hitting my refresh rate but also moderately otherwise. I feel like the tearing is just the cost of an iGPU. That being said closing accessory programs and just getting better fps in general can help quite a bit.

[quote=fr3fou][quote=Dave_]#10 custom timings
Easiest way for me has been using nvidia's drivers
You can always just use CRU and use CVT reduced timings and go from there
I oc'd my laptop's panel to 105Hz from 60Hz stable[/quote]
Can't seem to see monitor settings in my nvidia panel :/
Laptop is Lenovo z580[/quote]
The Lenovo z580 uses Intel HD Graphics 4k with which the only supported refresh rates would be avaiable under you Intel HD Graphics Control Panel. It seems very unlikely that it will support anything over 60hz on the laptops monitor or anything over 75hz on an external. I played on a laptop for a long time and I consistently had bad tearing. This happened terribly when I wasn't hitting my refresh rate but also moderately otherwise. I feel like the tearing is just the cost of an iGPU. That being said closing accessory programs and just getting better fps in general can help quite a bit.
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#17
My laptop has also a Nvida GeForce 630m, though as I said in #13 I canmt seem to find monitor settings in Nvidia :/

#17
My laptop has also a Nvida GeForce 630m, though as I said in #13 I canmt seem to find monitor settings in Nvidia :/
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Procreativefr3fouDave_#10 custom timings
Easiest way for me has been using nvidia's drivers
You can always just use CRU and use CVT reduced timings and go from there
I oc'd my laptop's panel to 105Hz from 60Hz stable
Can't seem to see monitor settings in my nvidia panel :/
Laptop is Lenovo z580
The Lenovo z580 uses Intel HD Graphics 4k with which the only supported refresh rates would be avaiable under you Intel HD Graphics Control Panel. It seems very unlikely that it will support anything over 60hz on the laptops monitor or anything over 75hz on an external. I played on a laptop for a long time and I consistently had bad tearing. This happened terribly when I wasn't hitting my refresh rate but also moderately otherwise. I feel like the tearing is just the cost of an iGPU. That being said closing accessory programs and just getting better fps in general can help quite a bit.

Yes but when you set a custom refresh rate in cru, you apply it via windows, not the drive. So, whatever driver you have shouldn't make a difference. It's just slightly more complicated using cru than nvidia's custom resolution stuff in their drivers. I did that on an amd 7950 and it worked just fine.

[quote=Procreative][quote=fr3fou][quote=Dave_]#10 custom timings
Easiest way for me has been using nvidia's drivers
You can always just use CRU and use CVT reduced timings and go from there
I oc'd my laptop's panel to 105Hz from 60Hz stable[/quote]
Can't seem to see monitor settings in my nvidia panel :/
Laptop is Lenovo z580[/quote]
The Lenovo z580 uses Intel HD Graphics 4k with which the only supported refresh rates would be avaiable under you Intel HD Graphics Control Panel. It seems very unlikely that it will support anything over 60hz on the laptops monitor or anything over 75hz on an external. I played on a laptop for a long time and I consistently had bad tearing. This happened terribly when I wasn't hitting my refresh rate but also moderately otherwise. I feel like the tearing is just the cost of an iGPU. That being said closing accessory programs and just getting better fps in general can help quite a bit.[/quote]

Yes but when you set a custom refresh rate in cru, you apply it via windows, not the drive. So, whatever driver you have shouldn't make a difference. It's just slightly more complicated using cru than nvidia's custom resolution stuff in their drivers. I did that on an amd 7950 and it worked just fine.
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Dunno why this thread is getting replies 9 months later. I've got a 144hz monitor nowadays and screen tearing isn't an issue.

edit: well, some responses are to help other people, but I don't see why there are still answers to OP being posted

Dunno why this thread is getting replies 9 months later. I've got a 144hz monitor nowadays and screen tearing isn't an issue.

edit: well, some responses are to help other people, but I don't see why there are still answers to OP being posted
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