Upvote Upvoted 18 Downvote Downvoted
Community Poll & Become friends with UGC Bot!
1
#1
0 Frags +

http://i.imgur.com/AKWCC3a.png

Hello everyone,

UGC has just launched a website called UGC Polls that will allow to survey not only players of the league, but also community members in general. There's currently a Community Poll open and everyone is invited to participate. The results will be disclosed and could lead to even greater projects in the community!

http://i.imgur.com/g2maQXC.png

I'd also like to present you another project that has been in development for the past few months. There was a BETA mainly targeted for UGC Players, but since there are also a few features that might come in handy for anyone, the last 100 friend spots of the UGC Help Bot are now open to any community member. The final release of the Bot, which will be able to handle virtually an unlimited number of friends, is scheduled in January if all goes well.

There are 2 features in particular that you might find interesting

  • Game Updates Notifications: Be notified when a TF2 Update is released
  • Twitch Notifications: Be notified when your favorite Twitch streamers go LIVE! Feel free to suggest any other streamers to add to the list.

-----------------

If you have any comments, questions or suggestions, don't hesitate!

[img]http://i.imgur.com/AKWCC3a.png[/img]

Hello everyone,

UGC has just launched a website called UGC Polls that will allow to survey not only players of the league, but also community members in general. There's currently a Community Poll open and [url=http://polls.playcomp.tf]everyone is invited to participate[/url]. The results will be disclosed and could lead to even greater projects in the community!

[img]http://i.imgur.com/g2maQXC.png[/img]

I'd also like to present you another project that has been in development for the past few months. There was a BETA mainly targeted for UGC Players, but since there are also a few features that might come in handy for anyone, the last 100 friend spots of the [url=http://ugc.playcomp.tf/]UGC Help Bot[/url] are now open to any community member. The final release of the Bot, which will be able to handle virtually an unlimited number of friends, is scheduled in January if all goes well.

There are 2 features in particular that you might find interesting

[list]
[*] Game Updates Notifications: Be notified when a TF2 Update is released
[*] Twitch Notifications: Be notified when your favorite Twitch streamers go LIVE! Feel free to suggest any other streamers to add to the list.
[/list]

-----------------

If you have any comments, questions or suggestions, don't hesitate!
2
#2
17 Frags +

I don't have any comments about this actual feature. But I am pleasantly surprised and happy with the increased amount of UGC participation in the tf.tv forums. I hope it continues.

I don't have any comments about this actual feature. But I am pleasantly surprised and happy with the increased amount of UGC participation in the tf.tv forums. I hope it continues.
3
#3
2 Frags +

Glad to see these. Survey could have had more relevant answers, IMO, just something to look into in the future.

Bot seems like a great idea. I don't know if this is the relevant place to leave feedback, but I will anyways.

  • The page would be nicer with a full list of available commands.
  • The twitch features would be far more useful if I could type !twitch USERNAME to follow anyone (unless this is an option and I'm missing it
  • The steamID checker would be very useful if I could grab the information/Steam community link from my current server.
Glad to see these. Survey could have had more relevant answers, IMO, just something to look into in the future.

Bot seems like a great idea. I don't know if this is the relevant place to leave feedback, but I will anyways.
[list]
[*] The page would be nicer with a full list of available commands.
[*] The twitch features would be far more useful if I could type !twitch USERNAME to follow anyone (unless this is an option and I'm missing it
[*] The steamID checker would be very useful if I could grab the information/Steam community link from my current server.
[/list]
4
#4
-6 Frags +

"Please login to continue..."

does this mean it sorts by div/experience?
because if not i'd really like to vote :(

"Please login to continue..."

does this mean it sorts by div/experience?
because if not i'd really like to vote :(
5
#5
3 Frags +

means login to steam

means login to steam
6
#6
2 Frags +
lvl4"Please login to continue..."

does this mean it sorts by div/experience?
because if not i'd really like to vote :(

Not publicly

Anyone can vote. But the admins may weigh votes based on experience/division

[quote=lvl4]"Please login to continue..."

does this mean it sorts by div/experience?
because if not i'd really like to vote :([/quote]

Not publicly

Anyone can vote. But the admins may weigh votes based on experience/division
7
#7
-2 Frags +
komorebimeans login to steam

it doesnt matter but I was just curious if results were gonna compare things about ur rank sry :(

[quote=komorebi]means login to steam[/quote]
[url=http://puu.sh/dwy51/02ba83bb8a.png]it doesnt matter but I was just curious if results were gonna compare things about ur rank sry :([/url]
8
#8
3 Frags +
brooky12lvl4"Please login to continue..."

does this mean it sorts by div/experience?
because if not i'd really like to vote :(

Not publicly

Anyone can vote. But the admins may weigh votes based on experience/division

I'd like to know how these weightings are going to be done. If someone has less experience but has a generally negative outlook on the league, are you going to tell them that they are wrong? Similarly, someone with a lot of exp may just be a hardcore comp player who would participate no matter the conditions. That'd be like weighting a census based on age.

[quote=brooky12][quote=lvl4]"Please login to continue..."

does this mean it sorts by div/experience?
because if not i'd really like to vote :([/quote]

Not publicly

Anyone can vote. But the admins may weigh votes based on experience/division[/quote]

I'd like to know how these weightings are going to be done. If someone has less experience but has a generally negative outlook on the league, are you going to tell them that they are wrong? Similarly, someone with a lot of exp may just be a hardcore comp player who would participate no matter the conditions. That'd be like weighting a census based on age.
9
#9
0 Frags +

Nice poll, I actually really liked how it was set out, shows that your website devs know what they're doing :p
The questions were appropriate as well, thanks.

Nice poll, I actually really liked how it was set out, shows that your website devs know what they're doing :p
The questions were appropriate as well, thanks.
10
#10
3 Frags +

@reilly Thanks for your feedback

Regarding the Community Poll answers: We didn't want the Poll to be too big, which could have discouraged players to complete the Poll. What kind of questions would you like to see in a future poll?

Commands listed on the Website: Good idea, I will add those when I have some time

Add a !twitch whatever-streamer-name feature: That would definitely be the most intuitive feature. When it was implemented, I was afraid of the logistics. The way streams are listed on websites like reddit.com/r/tf2 or TF2 Outpost (I'm guessing TF.TV works in a similar way) is they query the Twitch API for a specific game and simply list it. In this case, it would have to query a list of all streamers people have added, sometimes for nothing.

There's also the fact that the feature is currently only used by 30 players. If it becomes popular, I can definitely look into implementing the feature.

Have the Bot automatically grab Steam IDs from a server: I've actually tested it out before and it wouldn't be too hard to implement. However, with a public IP, you can only query player names and their points. In order to grab the Steam IDs, you would need RCON password. I don't know if people will be willing to provide that.

@tetromino There are no algorithms to weight in based on player experience. The data associated with a player (his divisions in UGC) are simply saved in order to give us a better understanding of where each division stands regarding specific matters.

Like for anything, the more experience you have, the more representative and thoughtful your understanding of a subject. UGC has always taken players' opinions across all divisions into consideration. It was actually one of the things we were "criticized" for; that higher-level players should be the ones taking decisions as they have a better understanding of the game. That definitely holds some truth and with that in mind, we found a middle-ground 2 seasons ago by implementing the Platinum Council. Leaders from Platinum teams are invited to regular meetings to discuss league matters in a more private setting.

As mentioned, players across all divisions are welcome to post on our Forums. However, there is definitely a lower participation rate from them. It might be because of various reasons, perhaps as simple as them not knowing about the UGC Forums. Either way, polling is a great & simple way to reach out to players and to quantify data that would usually be scattered in multiple places.

@reilly Thanks for your feedback

[i]Regarding the Community Poll answers:[/i] We didn't want the Poll to be too big, which could have discouraged players to complete the Poll. What kind of questions would you like to see in a future poll?

[i]Commands listed on the Website:[/i] Good idea, I will add those when I have some time

[i]Add a !twitch whatever-streamer-name feature:[/i] That would definitely be the most intuitive feature. When it was implemented, I was afraid of the logistics. The way streams are listed on websites like reddit.com/r/tf2 or TF2 Outpost (I'm guessing TF.TV works in a similar way) is they query the Twitch API for a specific game and simply list it. In this case, it would have to query a list of all streamers people have added, sometimes for nothing.

There's also the fact that the feature is currently only used by 30 players. If it becomes popular, I can definitely look into implementing the feature.

[i]Have the Bot automatically grab Steam IDs from a server:[/i] I've actually tested it out before and it wouldn't be too hard to implement. However, with a public IP, you can only query player names and their points. In order to grab the Steam IDs, you would need RCON password. I don't know if people will be willing to provide that.

@tetromino There are no algorithms to weight in based on player experience. The data associated with a player (his divisions in UGC) are simply saved in order to give us a better understanding of where each division stands regarding specific matters.

Like for anything, the more experience you have, the more representative and thoughtful your understanding of a subject. UGC has always taken players' opinions across all divisions into consideration. It was actually one of the things we were "criticized" for; that higher-level players should be the ones taking decisions as they have a better understanding of the game. That definitely holds some truth and with that in mind, we found a middle-ground 2 seasons ago by implementing the [i]Platinum Council[/i]. Leaders from Platinum teams are invited to regular meetings to discuss league matters in a more private setting.

As mentioned, players across all divisions are welcome to post on our Forums. However, there is definitely a lower participation rate from them. It might be because of various reasons, perhaps as simple as them not knowing about the UGC Forums. Either way, polling is a great & simple way to reach out to players and to quantify data that would usually be scattered in multiple places.
11
#11
6 Frags +
MamboulayIt was actually one of the things we were "criticized" for; that higher-level players should be the ones taking decisions as they have a better understanding of the game.

I think you have to understand your audience here. When you have 222 active teams in Steel+Iron vs. 49 in Gold+Plat it seems like you would want to focus on the majority of players and their experiences. Since the community has been all up in arms about bringing in new people, why wouldn't you want to see what those lower level players (your base) think about the league?

I think as a whole the elitist attitude of TF2 players is what's hurting our recruitment, and prioritizing the upper level's experience may in fact come at the expense of the bottom's. I'm not saying that "higher-level understanding" can't be helpful, but I doubt the people calling for a Platinum Council to make decisions were lower-level players.

[quote=Mamboulay]
It was actually one of the things we were "criticized" for; that higher-level players should be the ones taking decisions as they have a better understanding of the game.
[/quote]

I think you have to understand your audience here. When you have 222 active teams in Steel+Iron vs. 49 in Gold+Plat it seems like you would want to focus on the majority of players and their experiences. Since the community has been all up in arms about bringing in new people, why wouldn't you want to see what those lower level players (your base) think about the league?

I think as a whole the elitist attitude of TF2 players is what's hurting our recruitment, and prioritizing the upper level's experience may in fact come at the expense of the bottom's. I'm not saying that "higher-level understanding" can't be helpful, but I doubt the people calling for a [i]Platinum Council[/i] to make decisions were lower-level players.
12
#12
5 Frags +
Mamboulay we found a middle-ground 2 seasons ago by implementing the Platinum Council. Leaders from Platinum teams are invited to regular meetings to discuss league matters in a more private setting.

I hope that only applies to Highlander.

[quote=Mamboulay] we found a middle-ground 2 seasons ago by implementing the [i]Platinum Council[/i]. Leaders from Platinum teams are invited to regular meetings to discuss league matters in a more private setting.[/quote]
I hope that only applies to Highlander.
13
#13
1 Frags +
tetrominoSince the community has been all up in arms about bringing in new people, why wouldn't you want to see what those lower level players (your base) think about the league?

I think as a whole the elitist attitude of TF2 players is what's hurting our recruitment, and prioritizing the upper level's experience may in fact come at the expense of the bottom's. I'm not saying that "higher-level understanding" can't be helpful, but I doubt the people calling for a Platinum Council to make decisions were lower-level players.

I believe you confused what I said. I said that UGC will always welcome players across all divisions to express their opinions. There is usually a lower participation rate from them however (and it is true in most of divisions in general) and with that in mind, the idea of this Poll was to reach out to everyone in an easier way for us and for them.

As mentioned in the earlier post, UGC has always listened to players across all divisions. It was such an important focus for UGC that at one point, vocal players in the upper divisions voiced their concerns/interest into having a bigger say in Highlander matters. We agreed that everyone's opinion mattered, but also that Highlander Platinum players would allow us to understand some topics under a different angle. Thus, we found a middle-ground by 1) Listening to players across all divisions like we've always done and 2) Allow Highlander Platinum players to discuss (they don't have the final say) league matters with the Platinum Council. We have the possibility to target a specific division with this poll, why would we open and promote it to all divisions if it didn't matter to us?

[quote=tetromino]Since the community has been all up in arms about bringing in new people, why wouldn't you want to see what those lower level players (your base) think about the league?

I think as a whole the elitist attitude of TF2 players is what's hurting our recruitment, and prioritizing the upper level's experience may in fact come at the expense of the bottom's. I'm not saying that "higher-level understanding" can't be helpful, but I doubt the people calling for a [i]Platinum Council[/i] to make decisions were lower-level players.[/quote]

I believe you confused what I said. I said that UGC will always welcome players across all divisions to express their opinions. There is usually a lower participation rate from them however (and it is true in most of divisions in general) and with that in mind, the idea of this Poll was to reach out to everyone in an easier way for us and for them.

As mentioned in the earlier post, UGC has always listened to players across all divisions. It was such an important focus for UGC that at one point, vocal players in the upper divisions voiced their concerns/interest into having a bigger say in Highlander matters. We agreed that everyone's opinion mattered, but also that Highlander Platinum players would allow us to understand some topics under a different angle. Thus, we found a middle-ground by 1) Listening to players across all divisions like we've always done and 2) Allow Highlander Platinum players to [b]discuss[/b] (they don't have the final say) league matters with the [i]Platinum Council[/i]. We have the possibility to target a specific division with this poll, why would we open and promote it to all divisions if it didn't matter to us?
14
#14
1 Frags +

So was I right thinking that playcomp.tf was UGC's website?
"UGC 2014" section in the older version and order of the leagues kinda made me think that, but idk.

Anyways if it is may I add you on Steam to talk about some suggestions I have like pugs section etc.? I prefer live contact instead of an email for the stuff that needs discussing.

So was I right thinking that playcomp.tf was UGC's website?
"UGC 2014" section in the older version and order of the leagues kinda made me think that, but idk.

Anyways if it is may I add you on Steam to talk about some suggestions I have like pugs section etc.? I prefer live contact instead of an email for the stuff that needs discussing.
15
#15
3 Frags +
CHERRYSo was I right thinking that playcomp.tf was UGC's website?
"UGC 2014" section in the older version and order of the leagues kinda made me think that, but idk.

Anyways if it is may I add you on Steam to talk about some suggestions I have like pugs section etc.? I prefer live contact instead of an email for the stuff that needs discussing.

PlayComp.TF is a personal project that I started before joining UGC. The website was released around UGC Summer Season so I put it in emphasis. The website started with the idea that TF2 resources for new players are sometimes scattered in multiple places and that a visually appealing website always makes a better first impression.

The new discussions regarding Valve resparked interest and passion from the community in general and when I linked the website, it kind of exploded. I was pleasantly surprised and am always open to suggestions. A few have already been given and I try to implement them as fast as possible when I can find a few minutes here and there. The latest request was to add the Newbie Mixes, I will definitely do that before their event on Friday. Some are simply too much in my opinion, obviously people want to list everything possible, but the aim of the website is also to be simple and to not have too much clutter.

Feel free to add me!

[quote=CHERRY]So was I right thinking that playcomp.tf was UGC's website?
"UGC 2014" section in the older version and order of the leagues kinda made me think that, but idk.

Anyways if it is may I add you on Steam to talk about some suggestions I have like pugs section etc.? I prefer live contact instead of an email for the stuff that needs discussing.[/quote]

PlayComp.TF is a personal project that I started before joining UGC. The website was released around UGC Summer Season so I put it in emphasis. The website started with the idea that TF2 resources for new players are sometimes scattered in multiple places and that a visually appealing website always makes a better first impression.

The new discussions regarding Valve resparked interest and passion from the community in general and when I linked the website, it kind of exploded. I was pleasantly surprised and am always open to suggestions. A few have already been given and I try to implement them as fast as possible when I can find a few minutes here and there. The latest request was to add the Newbie Mixes, I will definitely do that before their event on Friday. Some are simply too much in my opinion, obviously people want to list everything possible, but the aim of the website is also to be simple and to not have too much clutter.

Feel free to add me!
16
#16
0 Frags +

I'd like to bump this thread to remind you that the Polls will close on January 12th @ 23:59 EST. There's a poll open to all TF2 players, feel free to vote!

Quote from here.

IsoThis is anecdotal, but when I asked some friends who play tf2 pubs often why they don't play comp tf2, the most common answer was that they didn't have enough free time to commit to it. Effectively doubling the necessary time commitment for entry-level players could cause our already wavering playerbase to shrink heavily.

These are the results from the community poll so far, if anyone is interested.

http://i.imgur.com/N2108DV.png

I'd like to bump this thread to remind you that the Polls will close on January 12th @ 23:59 EST. There's a poll open to all TF2 players, [url=http://polls.playcomp.tf]feel free to vote[/url]!

Quote from [url=http://teamfortress.tv/thread/21841/extv-vlog-the-future/?page=6#153]here[/url].

[quote=Iso]This is anecdotal, but when I asked some friends who play tf2 pubs often why they don't play comp tf2, the most common answer was that they didn't have enough free time to commit to it. Effectively doubling the necessary time commitment for entry-level players could cause our already wavering playerbase to shrink heavily.[/quote]

These are the results from the community poll so far, if anyone is interested.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/N2108DV.png[/img]
17
#17
0 Frags +

your imgur link broke mambo edit: never mind you're impressively quick

your imgur link broke mambo edit: never mind you're impressively quick
18
#18
1 Frags +

Im not sure if this is possible or not, but somehow a automated scrim organizer that would lets say, you would tell the bot lets say !scrim steel 8:30 1/7/2014 and it would find a scrim for you and match with someone else looking for one at the same time, and once it finds a match, it would link their steam account, just a suggestion!

Im not sure if this is possible or not, but somehow a automated scrim organizer that would lets say, you would tell the bot lets say !scrim steel 8:30 1/7/2014 and it would find a scrim for you and match with someone else looking for one at the same time, and once it finds a match, it would link their steam account, just a suggestion!
19
#19
1 Frags +
springrollsyour imgur link broke mambo

Fixed, thanks springrolls!

[quote=springrolls]your imgur link broke mambo[/quote]

Fixed, thanks springrolls!
Please sign in through STEAM to post a comment.