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Rhapsody's Performance Config
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#61
1 Frags +
You're already execing the CFG every time you open up TF2 it's detrimental to long term FPS to remove -dxlevel XX

What do you mean? All -dxlevel XX does is set your DirectX level to the specified one and reset your graphical settings, since that's a side effect of changing the DirectX level. Keeping it in startup properties means it does this EVERY launch, which only makes it so that you have to redo the options each time. There's no benefit.

[quote]You're already execing the CFG every time you open up TF2 it's detrimental to long term FPS to remove -dxlevel XX[/quote]

What do you mean? All -dxlevel XX does is set your DirectX level to the specified one and reset your graphical settings, since that's a side effect of changing the DirectX level. Keeping it in startup properties means it does this EVERY launch, which only makes it so that you have to redo the options each time. There's no benefit.
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#62
2 Frags +
ComangliaSnowshoeI need someone to confirm this but, can't you just use
m_rawinput "1"
m_filter "0"
m_customaccel "0"
m_mouseaccel1 "0"
m_mouseaccel2 "0"

instead of
-useforcedmparms -noforcemaccel -noforcemspd
?

-useforcedmparms -noforcemaccel -noforcemspd if I recall these don't actually do anything anymore.

http://etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-16829/

[quote=Comanglia][quote=Snowshoe]I need someone to confirm this but, can't you just use

[code]m_rawinput "1"
m_filter "0"
m_customaccel "0"
m_mouseaccel1 "0"
m_mouseaccel2 "0"[/code]

instead of
[code]-useforcedmparms -noforcemaccel -noforcemspd[/code]
?[/quote]

[b]-useforcedmparms -noforcemaccel -noforcemspd[/b] if I recall these don't actually do anything anymore.[/quote]

http://etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-16829/
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#63
2 Frags +

Got some screenshots. Don't know what happen to the formatting

Highframes
http://imgur.com/a/B52hr

Maxframes
http://imgur.com/a/OCQ0b

Rhapsody's CFG
http://imgur.com/a/TAkLc

Got some screenshots. Don't know what happen to the formatting

[b]Highframes[/b]
http://imgur.com/a/B52hr

[b]Maxframes[/b]
http://imgur.com/a/OCQ0b

[b]Rhapsody's CFG[/b]
http://imgur.com/a/TAkLc
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#64
0 Frags +
RhapsodyYou're already execing the CFG every time you open up TF2 it's detrimental to long term FPS to remove -dxlevel XX
What do you mean? All -dxlevel XX does is set your DirectX level to the specified one and reset your graphical settings, since that's a side effect of changing the DirectX level. Keeping it in startup properties means it does this EVERY launch, which only makes it so that you have to redo the options each time. There's no benefit.

I'll post my benchmarks later today when I get home, and once again "redoing the options each time" doesn't matter when you have a autoexec cfg.

[quote=Rhapsody][quote]You're already execing the CFG every time you open up TF2 it's detrimental to long term FPS to remove -dxlevel XX[/quote]

What do you mean? All -dxlevel XX does is set your DirectX level to the specified one and reset your graphical settings, since that's a side effect of changing the DirectX level. Keeping it in startup properties means it does this EVERY launch, which only makes it so that you have to redo the options each time. There's no benefit.[/quote]

I'll post my benchmarks later today when I get home, and once again "redoing the options each time" doesn't matter when you have a autoexec cfg.
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#65
7 Frags +

so after these benchmarks were posted, is it safe to say that the following statement is false advertising?

Since Chris' configs were abandoned, this one is the better choice, being that it's active and is updated with more convars that increase performance.
so after these benchmarks were posted, is it safe to say that the following statement is false advertising?

[quote]Since Chris' configs were abandoned, this one is the better choice, being that it's active and is updated with more convars that increase performance.[/quote]
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#66
0 Frags +
ComangliaRhapsodyYou're already execing the CFG every time you open up TF2 it's detrimental to long term FPS to remove -dxlevel XX
What do you mean? All -dxlevel XX does is set your DirectX level to the specified one and reset your graphical settings, since that's a side effect of changing the DirectX level. Keeping it in startup properties means it does this EVERY launch, which only makes it so that you have to redo the options each time. There's no benefit.

I'll post my benchmarks later today when I get home, and once again "redoing the options each time" doesn't matter when you have a autoexec cfg.

It matters when hes writing most of the options to the config not the autoexec by using writeconfig. and it also slows down alt tabbing to leave it in. Sometimes it will even make u crash when u alt tab if u leave it in. So please do not spread this misinformation.

[quote=Comanglia][quote=Rhapsody][quote]You're already execing the CFG every time you open up TF2 it's detrimental to long term FPS to remove -dxlevel XX[/quote]

What do you mean? All -dxlevel XX does is set your DirectX level to the specified one and reset your graphical settings, since that's a side effect of changing the DirectX level. Keeping it in startup properties means it does this EVERY launch, which only makes it so that you have to redo the options each time. There's no benefit.[/quote]

I'll post my benchmarks later today when I get home, and once again "redoing the options each time" doesn't matter when you have a autoexec cfg.[/quote]

It matters when hes writing most of the options to the config not the autoexec by using writeconfig. and it also slows down alt tabbing to leave it in. Sometimes it will even make u crash when u alt tab if u leave it in. So please do not spread this misinformation.
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#67
-4 Frags +
MR_SLINso after these benchmarks were posted, is it safe to say that the following statement is false advertising?
Since Chris' configs were abandoned, this one is the better choice, being that it's active and is updated with more convars that increase performance.

I'm constantly adding convars that we discover that increase performance. There is most definitely a gain.

[quote=MR_SLIN]so after these benchmarks were posted, is it safe to say that the following statement is false advertising?

[quote]Since Chris' configs were abandoned, this one is the better choice, being that it's active and is updated with more convars that increase performance.[/quote][/quote]

I'm constantly adding convars that we discover that increase performance. There is most definitely a gain.
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#68
1 Frags +

Rhapsody Maxframe hype

Rhapsody Maxframe hype
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#69
1 Frags +
no dxlevel2639 frames 29.720 seconds 88.80 fps (11.26 ms/f) 2.865 fps variability
2639 frames 29.827 seconds 88.48 fps (11.30 ms/f) 2.827 fps variability
2639 frames 29.767 seconds 88.66 fps (11.28 ms/f) 2.791 fps variability
with dxlevel2639 frames 29.914 seconds 88.22 fps (11.34 ms/f) 2.851 fps variability
2639 frames 30.004 seconds 87.95 fps (11.37 ms/f) 2.895 fps variability
2639 frames 29.923 seconds 88.19 fps (11.34 ms/f) 2.873 fps variability

i've been trolled, i can feel it

On topic, the setup wizard is pretty nice

[quote=no dxlevel]2639 frames 29.720 seconds 88.80 fps (11.26 ms/f) 2.865 fps variability
2639 frames 29.827 seconds 88.48 fps (11.30 ms/f) 2.827 fps variability
2639 frames 29.767 seconds 88.66 fps (11.28 ms/f) 2.791 fps variability[/quote]

[quote=with dxlevel]2639 frames 29.914 seconds 88.22 fps (11.34 ms/f) 2.851 fps variability
2639 frames 30.004 seconds 87.95 fps (11.37 ms/f) 2.895 fps variability
2639 frames 29.923 seconds 88.19 fps (11.34 ms/f) 2.873 fps variability[/quote]

i've been trolled, i can feel it

On topic, the setup wizard is pretty nice
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#70
0 Frags +

so when i installed the cfg my mouse pointer changed, what is the command to revert it back to the default mouse pointer?

*thanks slayer

so when i installed the cfg my mouse pointer changed, what is the command to revert it back to the default mouse pointer?

*thanks slayer
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#71
0 Frags +
MachuPikachuso when i installed the cfg my mouse pointer changed, what is the command to revert it back to the default mouse pointer?

cl_software_cursor 1 change it to 0

[quote=MachuPikachu]so when i installed the cfg my mouse pointer changed, what is the command to revert it back to the default mouse pointer?[/quote]
cl_software_cursor 1 change it to 0
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#72
8 Frags +
RhapsodyMR_SLINso after these benchmarks were posted, is it safe to say that the following statement is false advertising?
Since Chris' configs were abandoned, this one is the better choice, being that it's active and is updated with more convars that increase performance.

I'm constantly adding convars that we discover that increase performance. There is most definitely a gain.

well...you're using his exact setup for the most part. perhaps you can't get much better than chris' fps config. i also felt like chris labeled his sections fairly well, and it was pretty customizable if you had a little bit of scripting knowledge, although a setup wizard would be nice for newer tf2 players.

[quote=Rhapsody][quote=MR_SLIN]so after these benchmarks were posted, is it safe to say that the following statement is false advertising?

[quote]Since Chris' configs were abandoned, this one is the better choice, being that it's active and is updated with more convars that increase performance.[/quote][/quote]

I'm constantly adding convars that we discover that increase performance. There is most definitely a gain.[/quote]

well...you're using his exact setup for the most part. perhaps you can't get much better than chris' fps config. i also felt like chris labeled his sections fairly well, and it was pretty customizable if you had a little bit of scripting knowledge, although a setup wizard would be nice for newer tf2 players.
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#73
0 Frags +
RhapsodyI'm constantly adding convars that we discover that increase performance. There is most definitely a gain.

M0re's fps config from several years ago still gives me more(might not apply to other people but it will at least give you just as much) fps than your config(that gives me almost the exact same fps as chris' configs) so I'm not so sure about your statement.

[quote=Rhapsody]I'm constantly adding convars that we discover that increase performance. There is most definitely a gain.[/quote]

M0re's fps config from several years ago still gives me more(might not apply to other people but it will at least give you just as much) fps than your config(that gives me almost the exact same fps as chris' configs) so I'm not so sure about your statement.
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#74
-7 Frags +

without reading all these words and looking at numbers which cfg will give me most frames pls

without reading all these words and looking at numbers which cfg will give me most frames pls
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#75
3 Frags +
dingowithout reading all these words and looking at numbers which cfg will give me most frames pls

Chris' maxframes. I know the name is misleading it's okay dingo.

[quote=dingo]without reading all these words and looking at numbers which cfg will give me most frames pls[/quote]
Chris' maxframes. I know the name is misleading it's okay dingo.
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#76
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#77
1 Frags +
MedusaRhapsodyI'm constantly adding convars that we discover that increase performance. There is most definitely a gain.
M0re's fps config from several years ago still gives me more(might not apply to other people but it will at least give you just as much) fps than your config(that gives me almost the exact same fps as chris' configs) so I'm not so sure about your statement.

I looked through M0re's and used most of the convars he had that I didn't. Since I'm moving my STeam installation to a new SSD at the moment I can't test it, but there's probably some sort of gain.

Snowshoer_queued_decals 1 is unstable for me. But I've had cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 for a long time, no problems.

I'll add a notice that they exist in the next update and comment them out.

On another note, if you're getting worse FPS than what I stated you likely would, then that may be due to experimental changes that I've been trying recently, or changes that could be made to improve it, since these changes might not be compatible or effective on all systems (r_queued_decals 1 and cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 being prime examples). I apologize for such occurances, but that's why we're trying to get this all figured out and find out what can give us the best FPS.

[quote=Medusa][quote=Rhapsody]I'm constantly adding convars that we discover that increase performance. There is most definitely a gain.[/quote]

M0re's fps config from several years ago still gives me more(might not apply to other people but it will at least give you just as much) fps than your config(that gives me almost the exact same fps as chris' configs) so I'm not so sure about your statement.[/quote]

I looked through M0re's and used most of the convars he had that I didn't. Since I'm moving my STeam installation to a new SSD at the moment I can't test it, but there's probably some sort of gain.

[quote=Snowshoe]r_queued_decals 1 is unstable for me. But I've had cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 for a long time, no problems.[/quote]

I'll add a notice that they exist in the next update and comment them out.

On another note, if you're getting worse FPS than what I stated you likely would, then that may be due to experimental changes that I've been trying recently, or changes that could be made to improve it, since these changes might not be compatible or effective on all systems (r_queued_decals 1 and cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 being prime examples). I apologize for such occurances, but that's why we're trying to get this all figured out and find out what can give us the best FPS.
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#78
0 Frags +

Can you make a dx 8 cfg at some point as well please? Don't leave our toaster PCs in the dark

Can you make a dx 8 cfg at some point as well please? Don't leave our toaster PCs in the dark
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#79
-2 Frags +

Wait do I just download this and put it in my auto exec what is all this thing about typing stuff in console I never had to do that with Chris's

Wait do I just download this and put it in my auto exec what is all this thing about typing stuff in console I never had to do that with Chris's
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#80
0 Frags +
SpannzerCan you make a dx 8 cfg at some point as well please? Don't leave our toaster PCs in the dark

There's nothing I need to change for DX8 mode. Just add -dxlevel 81 to your launch options instead of -dxlevel 90, and remove it after you launch the game once.

ToasterWait do I just download this and put it in my auto exec what is all this thing about typing stuff in console I never had to do that with Chris's

You put it in your autoexec and then type 'setup'.

[quote=Spannzer]Can you make a dx 8 cfg at some point as well please? Don't leave our toaster PCs in the dark[/quote]

There's nothing I need to change for DX8 mode. Just add -dxlevel 81 to your launch options instead of -dxlevel 90, and remove it after you launch the game once.

[quote=Toaster]Wait do I just download this and put it in my auto exec what is all this thing about typing stuff in console I never had to do that with Chris's[/quote]

You put it in your autoexec and then type 'setup'.
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#81
-2 Frags +

Do I have to put this in console too> cl_threaded_bone_setup 1
r_queued_decals 1

Do I have to put this in console too> cl_threaded_bone_setup 1
r_queued_decals 1
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#82
1 Frags +
dxlevel removed
1.2639 frames 12.695 seconds 207.87 fps ( 4.81 ms/f) 9.598 fps variability
2.2639 frames 12.798 seconds 206.21 fps ( 4.85 ms/f) 9.566 fps variability
3.2639 frames 12.983 seconds 203.26 fps ( 4.92 ms/f) 9.107 fps variability

dxlevel kept
1.2639 frames 12.786 seconds 206.39 fps ( 4.85 ms/f) 10.396 fps variability
2.2639 frames 12.775 seconds 206.57 fps ( 4.84 ms/f) 9.395 fps variability
3.2639 frames 12.832 seconds 205.65 fps ( 4.86 ms/f) 9.117 fps variability

Honestly relooking at this it might not actually be statistically relevant. I probs should've tested more. (This is with my custom cfg)

[code]dxlevel removed
1.2639 frames 12.695 seconds 207.87 fps ( 4.81 ms/f) 9.598 fps variability
2.2639 frames 12.798 seconds 206.21 fps ( 4.85 ms/f) 9.566 fps variability
3.2639 frames 12.983 seconds 203.26 fps ( 4.92 ms/f) 9.107 fps variability

dxlevel kept
1.2639 frames 12.786 seconds 206.39 fps ( 4.85 ms/f) 10.396 fps variability
2.2639 frames 12.775 seconds 206.57 fps ( 4.84 ms/f) 9.395 fps variability
3.2639 frames 12.832 seconds 205.65 fps ( 4.86 ms/f) 9.117 fps variability[/code]

Honestly relooking at this it might not actually be statistically relevant. I probs should've tested more. (This is with my custom cfg)
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#83
0 Frags +

hey if you make max frames can you edit your old post and post it up there? thanks

hey if you make max frames can you edit your old post and post it up there? thanks
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#84
0 Frags +
Ferskinif you do maxframes

i'll suck your dick
hooliliterally the only difference between highframes and maxframes are these cvars

mat_picmip 2
mat_specular 0
mat_trilinear 0
mp_decals 1
r_decals 1

also, i'm having a hard time finding how your "cfg" is supposed to be useful? it basically combines cvars from chris highframes with some stuff that is not necessary and does not benefit you in terms of fps?
also, like someone said above, chris cfg is already pretty organized, there's nothing else that could be added to make it "more documented".

this is proved by the benchmarks already posted here by several users that shows no noticeable fps gain, yet you say, and i quote

Rhapsodybe superior in every way

active and is updated with more convars that increase performance

documented much more thoroughly than Chris' was

completely re-organized in a neater fashion, and is much more user-friendy and intuitive.

doesn't look like it.

[quote=Ferskin]if you do maxframes

i'll suck your dick[/quote]

[quote=hooli]
literally the only difference between highframes and maxframes are these cvars

mat_picmip 2
mat_specular 0
mat_trilinear 0
mp_decals 1
r_decals 1[/quote]


also, i'm having a hard time finding how your "cfg" is supposed to be useful? it basically combines cvars from chris highframes with some stuff that is not necessary and does not benefit you in terms of fps?
also, like someone said above, chris cfg is already pretty organized, there's nothing else that could be added to make it "more documented".

this is proved by the benchmarks already posted here by several users that shows no noticeable fps gain, yet you say, and i quote

[quote=Rhapsody]
be [b]superior in every way[/b]

active and is updated with more [b]convars that increase performance[/b]

documented much more thoroughly than Chris' was

completely re-organized in a neater fashion, and is much more user-friendy and intuitive.
[/quote]

doesn't look like it.
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#85
3 Frags +
QuertRhapsodybe superior in every way

active and is updated with more convars that increase performance

documented much more thoroughly than Chris' was

completely re-organized in a neater fashion, and is much more user-friendy and intuitive.

doesn't look like it.

you know, there is always the option of not using the config if you dont like it

dont listen to me if you dont want to

[quote=Quert]
[quote=Rhapsody]
be [b]superior in every way[/b]

active and is updated with more [b]convars that increase performance[/b]

documented much more thoroughly than Chris' was

completely re-organized in a neater fashion, and is much more user-friendy and intuitive.
[/quote]

doesn't look like it.[/quote]
you know, there is always the option of not using the config if you dont like it

dont listen to me if you dont want to
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#86
10 Frags +

apparently, people get -fragged when you criticize something

there are already several benchmarks showing little to no fps gain between rhapsody cfg and chris, the only fps difference that has been appearing is between -dx9 and -dx8, with the latter being better

so, how is that supposed to be superior? my intention is not to bash, but to understand what is the benefit people are going to receive using your cfg, instead of what they are already using? benchmarks don't lie

because so far, people are only using with the mindset that a new cfg that is not chris has appeared and it's going to get you way more fps highframes already does.

apparently, people get -fragged when you criticize something

there are already several benchmarks showing little to no fps gain between rhapsody cfg and chris, the only fps difference that has been appearing is between -dx9 and -dx8, with the latter being better

so, how is that supposed to be superior? my intention is not to bash, but to understand what is the benefit people are going to receive using your cfg, instead of what they are already using? benchmarks don't lie

because so far, people are only using with the mindset that a new cfg that is not chris has appeared and it's going to get you way more fps highframes already does.
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#87
-3 Frags +

well damn atleast give a nigga credit for trying cuz i don't see you doing anything to help

well damn atleast give a nigga credit for trying cuz i don't see you doing anything to help
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#88
1 Frags +

Not really directly to do with this config, but I was just testing some different settings out (and this config seems to get almost exactly the same amount of frames as maxframes for me), and when I disabled net_graph 3, I got about 20 extra fps. I never realised how much of a drain net_graph could be.

Not really directly to do with this config, but I was just testing some different settings out (and this config seems to get almost exactly the same amount of frames as maxframes for me), and when I disabled net_graph 3, I got about 20 extra fps. I never realised how much of a drain net_graph could be.
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#89
5 Frags +
santababywell damn atleast give a nigga credit for trying cuz i don't see you doing anything to help

to reward mediocrity is to reward incompetence
rewarding incompetence hinders growth
dont do that

[quote=santababy]well damn atleast give a nigga credit for trying cuz i don't see you doing anything to help[/quote]
to reward mediocrity is to reward incompetence
rewarding incompetence hinders growth
dont do that
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#90
0 Frags +
QuertFerskinif you do maxframes

i'll suck your dick
hooliliterally the only difference between highframes and maxframes are these cvars

mat_picmip 2
mat_specular 0
mat_trilinear 0
mp_decals 1
r_decals 1

also, i'm having a hard time finding how your "cfg" is supposed to be useful? it basically combines cvars from chris highframes with some stuff that is not necessary and does not benefit you in terms of fps?
also, like someone said above, chris cfg is already pretty organized, there's nothing else that could be added to make it "more documented".

this is proved by the benchmarks already posted here by several users that shows no noticeable fps gain, yet you say, and i quote
Rhapsodybe superior in every way

active and is updated with more convars that increase performance

documented much more thoroughly than Chris' was

completely re-organized in a neater fashion, and is much more user-friendy and intuitive.

doesn't look like it.

It is a project intended to be superior in every way, and that's progressive. It is indeed documented more, if you look (Chris didn't describe what most of the convars do, I did), and it's user-friendly/intuitive thanks to the in-game setup.

People have reported FPS gain on Reddit and here, and I myself have gained performance, hence why I released it. As stated a page back, this is a chance to make a community project that can help us all out, instead of arguing about it. What is deemed unneeded, I remove. I never stated that I'm an expert. This project depends on information already released or the information people are willing to disclose for it.

I'll finish off by saying that it matters that this exists; Chris' configs were abandoned and public improvements wouldn't be made any longer. There was no one willing to step up to the plate to update them publicly until now.

On another note, I've updated the config again. The two convars that were causing crashes are now commented and mentioned in the FPS section in the wizard (for people that still want to use them), and cl_software_cursor is commented since it was preventing some people from moving their cursor up, theoretically.

[quote=Quert][quote=Ferskin]if you do maxframes

i'll suck your dick[/quote]

[quote=hooli]
literally the only difference between highframes and maxframes are these cvars

mat_picmip 2
mat_specular 0
mat_trilinear 0
mp_decals 1
r_decals 1[/quote]


also, i'm having a hard time finding how your "cfg" is supposed to be useful? it basically combines cvars from chris highframes with some stuff that is not necessary and does not benefit you in terms of fps?
also, like someone said above, chris cfg is already pretty organized, there's nothing else that could be added to make it "more documented".

this is proved by the benchmarks already posted here by several users that shows no noticeable fps gain, yet you say, and i quote

[quote=Rhapsody]
be [b]superior in every way[/b]

active and is updated with more [b]convars that increase performance[/b]

documented much more thoroughly than Chris' was

completely re-organized in a neater fashion, and is much more user-friendy and intuitive.
[/quote]

doesn't look like it.[/quote]

It is a project intended to be superior in every way, and that's progressive. It is indeed documented more, if you look (Chris didn't describe what most of the convars do, I did), and it's user-friendly/intuitive thanks to the in-game setup.

People have reported FPS gain on Reddit and here, and I myself have gained performance, hence why I released it. As stated a page back, this is a chance to make a community project that can help us all out, instead of arguing about it. What is deemed unneeded, I remove. I [i]never[/i] stated that I'm an expert. This project depends on information already released or the information people are willing to disclose for it.

I'll finish off by saying that it matters that this exists; Chris' configs were abandoned and public improvements wouldn't be made any longer. There was no one willing to step up to the plate to update them publicly until now.

On another note, I've updated the config again. The two convars that were causing crashes are now commented and mentioned in the FPS section in the wizard (for people that still want to use them), and cl_software_cursor is commented since it was preventing some people from moving their cursor up, theoretically.
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