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google fiber
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#1
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anyone live in kansas that's gonna preregister for it? 1Gbit DL sounds amazing. https://fiber.google.com/about/

anyone live in kansas that's gonna preregister for it? 1Gbit DL sounds amazing. https://fiber.google.com/about/
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i'm moving

i'm moving
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#3
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nvm tornadoes

nvm tornadoes
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looks great, will take a while before it actaully catches on

also wouldn't be surprised if they really started tracking you

looks great, will take a while before it actaully catches on

also wouldn't be surprised if they really started tracking you
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#5
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free internet wow
https://fiber.google.com/plans/residential/

free internet wow
https://fiber.google.com/plans/residential/
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#6
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Free internet that's way the fuck better than anything Comcast or AT&T is providing, for a one-time construction fee. The catch is that Google provides ALL of your content and gets to monitor every last bit of it. They've shown they don't really care for any kind of censorship, so it's really just a privacy concern.

Free internet that's way the fuck better than anything Comcast or AT&T is providing, for a one-time construction fee. The catch is that Google provides ALL of your content and gets to monitor every last bit of it. They've shown they don't really care for any kind of censorship, so it's really just a privacy concern.
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I really can't wait until fiber is mainstream enough that it could go multi-continental. Imagine good pings internationally for all players. Games like tf2 could work with just one league.

I really can't wait until fiber is mainstream enough that it could go multi-continental. Imagine good pings internationally for all players. Games like tf2 could work with just one league.
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WithADanceNumberI really can't wait until fiber is mainstream enough that it could go multi-continental. Imagine good pings internationally for all players. Games like tf2 could work with just one league.

Cable type is barely the limiting factor in ping. You realize that the speed of light's not going to magically increase, it's the coefficient through the medium. Pretty sure the main reason why fiber optics is better DL rate is because it's easier to tell the difference between high and low with light vs electricity, but I'm sure EE majors know better than I do.

I'm not sure which of the best of the best cables is better (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080822183553AAqkj9m I'm sure there's better sites) but the generic cables google's probably using is probably less than 10ms difference (out of my ass, didn't do the math).

[quote=WithADanceNumber]I really can't wait until fiber is mainstream enough that it could go multi-continental. Imagine good pings internationally for all players. Games like tf2 could work with just one league.[/quote]
Cable type is barely the limiting factor in ping. You realize that the speed of light's not going to magically increase, it's the coefficient through the medium. Pretty sure the main reason why fiber optics is better DL rate is because it's easier to tell the difference between high and low with light vs electricity, but I'm sure EE majors know better than I do.

I'm not sure which of the best of the best cables is better (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080822183553AAqkj9m I'm sure there's better sites) but the generic cables google's probably using is probably less than 10ms difference (out of my ass, didn't do the math).
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#8 thanks for the correction. I'm not very wizened up on how internet/ping works.

#8 thanks for the correction. I'm not very wizened up on how internet/ping works.
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drill fiber directly through the earths crust to its exact destination for optimal ping

obama 2012

drill fiber directly through the earths crust to its exact destination for optimal ping

obama 2012
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#8 Someone mentioned this in some other thread but apparently NY to UK is 2ms at the speed of light. So a change there isn't really needed.

#8 Someone mentioned this in some other thread but apparently NY to UK is 2ms at the speed of light. So a change there isn't really needed.
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Tornadoes RARELY happen in kansas. I should know, i live here.

Tornadoes RARELY happen in kansas. I should know, i live here.
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free internet in exchange for all of your personal information

free internet in exchange for all of your personal information
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the speed of light isn't the limiting factor, its the delay in the hardware at the switches/hubs/routing centers

the speed of light isn't the limiting factor, its the delay in the hardware at the switches/hubs/routing centers
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Fiber optics doesn't fix that though. That is the main bottleneck in computing but we have to wait for different breakthroughs for that.

Fiber optics doesn't fix that though. That is the main bottleneck in computing but we have to wait for different breakthroughs for that.
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#8
p sure max electron velocity in copper is like 1/300 speed of light

#11
if only photonic computers were available :<

#8
p sure max electron velocity in copper is like 1/300 speed of light

#11
if only photonic computers were available :<
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Hallow#8 Someone mentioned this in some other thread but apparently NY to UK is 2ms at the speed of light. So a change there isn't really needed.

18 ms

[quote=Hallow]#8 Someone mentioned this in some other thread but apparently NY to UK is 2ms at the speed of light. So a change there isn't really needed.[/quote]
18 ms
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crumpetthe speed of light isn't the limiting factor, its the delay in the hardware at the switches/hubs/routing centers

As well as looking up address entries in DNS tables, medium access control and error correction.

source: I did a module on Networking once

[quote=crumpet]the speed of light isn't the limiting factor, its the delay in the hardware at the switches/hubs/routing centers[/quote]

As well as looking up address entries in DNS tables, medium access control and error correction.

source: I did a module on Networking once
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So say in the future, can you get west coast to europe with sub 50 ping?

So say in the future, can you get west coast to europe with sub 50 ping?
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nope unless there's no switching from the west coast to london, pretty sure you can never actually reach the speed of light going in a circle around earth anyways since it's going to have to bounce/reflect off a cable and reduce the speed. 8750km from LA to london, 29.17ms at the speed of light. I figure it's going to end up being more like 44 ms without switching delays/routing from routers (using .67 as a coefficient). I really doubt companies will bother to make long dedicated lines instead of routing to multiple centers so the switching delay should always push it over.

edit: #16, the wave is what carries the signal, electron speed isn't the limiting factor in the cables. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_electricity. Signal still travels ~66% of the speed of light.

nope unless there's no switching from the west coast to london, pretty sure you can never actually reach the speed of light going in a circle around earth anyways since it's going to have to bounce/reflect off a cable and reduce the speed. 8750km from LA to london, 29.17ms at the speed of light. I figure it's going to end up being more like 44 ms without switching delays/routing from routers (using .67 as a coefficient). I really doubt companies will bother to make long dedicated lines instead of routing to multiple centers so the switching delay should always push it over.

edit: #16, the wave is what carries the signal, electron speed isn't the limiting factor in the cables. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_electricity. Signal still travels ~66% of the speed of light.
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Huh. They found a way to make me want to live in Kansas City.

Huh. They found a way to make me want to live in Kansas City.
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I wish we could get some over here, but it's probably gonna take ages lol

I wish we could get some over here, but it's probably gonna take ages lol
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Missing Google Fiber by about 30 miles :(
Feels bad, man.

Missing Google Fiber by about 30 miles :(
Feels bad, man.
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saltysally1

saltysally1
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TheWiseOnesaltysally1

holy shit go away and stop riding his nuts

i don't like him and i already like him more than you

[quote=TheWiseOne]saltysally1[/quote]holy shit go away and stop riding his nuts

i don't like him and i already like him more than you
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1gb dl

I have 2 mb

1 gb download would be godly

1gb dl

I have 2 mb

1 gb download would be godly
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User_1gb dl

I have 2 mb

1 gb download would be godly

Caps are important. 2Mb and 2MB is vastly different, and if you actually have 2Mb in this day and age I feel sorry for you.

[quote=User_]1gb dl

I have 2 mb

1 gb download would be godly[/quote]
Caps are important. 2Mb and 2MB is vastly different, and if you actually have 2Mb in this day and age I feel sorry for you.
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brownymasterUser_1gb dl

I have 2 mb

1 gb download would be godly
Caps are important. 2Mb and 2MB is vastly different, and if you actually have 2Mb in this day and age I feel sorry for you.

Oh yeah

2MB

mega-byte not megabit

Jeez that WOULD suck

[quote=brownymaster][quote=User_]1gb dl

I have 2 mb

1 gb download would be godly[/quote]
Caps are important. 2Mb and 2MB is vastly different, and if you actually have 2Mb in this day and age I feel sorry for you.[/quote]

Oh yeah

2MB

mega-byte not megabit

Jeez that WOULD suck
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#29
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2Mb isn't that bad, anything above 1Mb works for most things

2Mb isn't that bad, anything above 1Mb works for most things
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I have 3rd world internet. It took me 10 days of 24/7 downloading to download 300gb of steam games. Being able to download all those games in under 2 hours would be nice. This project probably won't spread out that much though, sadly.

I have 3rd world internet. It took me 10 days of 24/7 downloading to download 300gb of steam games. Being able to download all those games in under 2 hours would be nice. This project probably won't spread out that much though, sadly.
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