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massive fps drops - Help appreciated
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#1
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Well iw been playing on this laptop from msi in a year or so. But about a month back, i started getting some tiny fps drops. I didnt think much about it until it started goin nuts.

The strange part is that iw defraged my hardisk serval times without any results.

here is my pc specs MSI GT683DX (not dxr)
CPU: i5-2430m 2.4 x 2 with 4 treads
GPU: GTX 570m 1.5 GB DDR5 ram
RAM: plixir (i think) 6 GB (one 4GB stick + a 2GB stick)

Almost any game i run. like Crysis 3/2/warhead/crysis and bf3 is set at the preset settings or medium besides crysis warhead and the normal crysis.

An other thing is that iw tired to use my vaccum cleaner to suck some dust out of there (i removed the back plate)

I would usualy play a game for 15 minutes and then the fps drops will happen.... (also while idle in-game)

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for reading (sorry for bad english)

Well iw been playing on this laptop from msi in a year or so. But about a month back, i started getting some tiny fps drops. I didnt think much about it until it started goin nuts.

The strange part is that iw defraged my hardisk serval times without any results.

here is my pc specs MSI GT683DX (not dxr)
CPU: i5-2430m 2.4 x 2 with 4 treads
GPU: GTX 570m 1.5 GB DDR5 ram
RAM: plixir (i think) 6 GB (one 4GB stick + a 2GB stick)

Almost any game i run. like Crysis 3/2/warhead/crysis and bf3 is set at the preset settings or medium besides crysis warhead and the normal crysis.

An other thing is that iw tired to use my vaccum cleaner to suck some dust out of there (i removed the back plate)

I would usualy play a game for 15 minutes and then the fps drops will happen.... (also while idle in-game)

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for reading (sorry for bad english)
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#2
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Do you play with the laptop on your lap? Almost any laptop, no matter the specs, will slow after a while on a lap

Do you play with the laptop on your lap? Almost any laptop, no matter the specs, will slow after a while on a lap
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HazSwag
Do you play with the laptop on your lap? Almost any laptop, no matter the specs, will slow after a while on a lap

no its on a plastic elevation
with a book under the left side to free air under it

[quote]HazSwag
Do you play with the laptop on your lap? Almost any laptop, no matter the specs, will slow after a while on a lap[/quote]
no its on a plastic elevation
with a book under the left side to free air under it
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#4
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When I had FPS drops I reinstalled the game by deleting the Team Fortress 2 folder (you should of course make a backup of your needed files).

When I had FPS drops I reinstalled the game by deleting the Team Fortress 2 folder (you should of course make a backup of your needed files).
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#5
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Run a CPU Temperature monitoring app and see if it's overheating while playing?

Run a CPU Temperature monitoring app and see if it's overheating while playing?
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KAMORun a CPU Temperature monitoring app and see if it's overheating while playing?

Like :)? sorry im a newb

zilisWhen I had FPS drops I reinstalled the game by deleting the Team Fortress 2 folder (you should of course make a backup of your needed files).

its not tf2 thats the main problem. Chris Maxfps cfg is fine for me :3 its any game else (okay not quake live).

[quote=KAMO]Run a CPU Temperature monitoring app and see if it's overheating while playing?[/quote]
Like :)? sorry im a newb

[quote=zilis]When I had FPS drops I reinstalled the game by deleting the Team Fortress 2 folder (you should of course make a backup of your needed files).[/quote]
its not tf2 thats the main problem. Chris Maxfps cfg is fine for me :3 its any game else (okay not quake live).
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#7
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seeing as how the 500 series chips are very warm i'd assume it's the video card and not the cpu. Try http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

seeing as how the 500 series chips are very warm i'd assume it's the video card and not the cpu. Try http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
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#8
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ishzbtKAMORun a CPU Temperature monitoring app and see if it's overheating while playing?Like :)? sorry im a newb

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
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[quote=ishzbt][quote=KAMO]Run a CPU Temperature monitoring app and see if it's overheating while playing?[/quote]
Like :)? sorry im a newb[/quote]
[s]http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html[/s]
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Oblivionageseeing as how the 500 series chips are very warm i'd assume it's the video card and not the cpu. Try http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

Thank you! :)

zilisishzbtKAMORun a CPU Temperature monitoring app and see if it's overheating while playing?Like :)? sorry im a newbhttp://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
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ROLF get outforum´ed

lel :)

[quote=Oblivionage]seeing as how the 500 series chips are very warm i'd assume it's the video card and not the cpu. Try http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html[/quote]

Thank you! :)


[quote=zilis][quote=ishzbt][quote=KAMO]Run a CPU Temperature monitoring app and see if it's overheating while playing?[/quote]
Like :)? sorry im a newb[/quote]
[s]http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html[/s]
Ninja'd[/quote]

ROLF get outforum´ed

lel :)
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#10
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Update: 60-80 (not ingame) my god.... anything i can do?
edit: gonna benchmark what temperature im gettin while playing the games i said tomorrow :)

oh btw im considering to buy this http://www.elgiganten.dk/product/pc-tablet-tilbehor/andet-computertilbehor/TRUST16813/trust-xstream-pc-koler-og-holder or http://www.elgiganten.dk/product/pc-tablet-hardware/andet-computertilbehor/AWE55EU/targus-chill-mat-underlag both sides is in danish so just look at the picture or use chrome once again THANK you guys....

Update: 60-80 (not ingame) my god.... anything i can do?
edit: gonna benchmark what temperature im gettin while playing the games i said tomorrow :)

oh btw im considering to buy this http://www.elgiganten.dk/product/pc-tablet-tilbehor/andet-computertilbehor/TRUST16813/trust-xstream-pc-koler-og-holder or http://www.elgiganten.dk/product/pc-tablet-hardware/andet-computertilbehor/AWE55EU/targus-chill-mat-underlag both sides is in danish so just look at the picture or use chrome once again THANK you guys....
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#11
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probably needs the fans cleaned and/or more thermal paste

probably needs the fans cleaned and/or more thermal paste
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#12
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grillzprobably needs the fans cleaned and/or more thermal paste

gonna try this today thanks! :9

[quote=grillz]probably needs the fans cleaned and/or more thermal paste[/quote]
gonna try this today thanks! :9
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grillzprobably needs the fans cleaned and/or more thermal paste

or higher quality/better applied thermal paste

[quote=grillz]probably needs the fans cleaned and/or more thermal paste[/quote]

or higher quality/better applied thermal paste
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crespigrillzprobably needs the fans cleaned and/or more thermal paste
or higher quality/better applied thermal paste

Huh? sorry im a bit of a newb :P

[quote=crespi][quote=grillz]probably needs the fans cleaned and/or more thermal paste[/quote]

or higher quality/better applied thermal paste[/quote]
Huh? sorry im a bit of a newb :P
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#15
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Update: about 80 min 91 max .... :(

Update: about 80 min 91 max .... :(
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And you haven't overclocked anything? 90c is ridiculous if you aren't OCing. Is the laptop still under warranty?

And you haven't overclocked anything? 90c is ridiculous if you aren't OCing. Is the laptop still under warranty?
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WaldoAnd you haven't overclocked anything? 90c is ridiculous if you aren't OCing. Is the laptop still under warranty?

no i havent and i dont know about the warranty for now :´(

[quote=Waldo]And you haven't overclocked anything? 90c is ridiculous if you aren't OCing. Is the laptop still under warranty?[/quote]
no i havent and i dont know about the warranty for now :´(
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#18
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I also play on a laptop (macbook pro)

When I first got this computer, about 2 years ago, it never dipped below 300 fps.

Then, last summer, an update came out and my frames started to drop. I figured it was the update. Every update after that my frames seemed to be even worse.

Then, just yesterday, I opened up my MBP and took a look inside. Guess what I found?

It's hard to see all of the dust that was in there before I cleaned it out, but it was a lot.

My cpu was throttling itself while tf2 was running, because under the load of tf2 it would have to completely throttle itself so that my computer didn't over heat. This was giving me terrible fps. As soon as I put her back together and booted tf2, I went from 40-60 fps back to 200+ with no dips.

CLEAN YOUR COMPUTER OUT.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43946806/mac1.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43946806/mac3.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43946806/mac4.jpg

I also play on a laptop (macbook pro)

When I first got this computer, about 2 years ago, it never dipped below 300 fps.

Then, last summer, an update came out and my frames started to drop. I figured it was the update. Every update after that my frames seemed to be even worse.

Then, just yesterday, I opened up my MBP and took a look inside. Guess what I found?

It's hard to see all of the dust that was in there before I cleaned it out, but it was a lot.

My cpu was throttling itself while tf2 was running, because under the load of tf2 it would have to completely throttle itself so that my computer didn't over heat. This was giving me terrible fps. As soon as I put her back together and booted tf2, I went from 40-60 fps back to 200+ with no dips.

CLEAN YOUR COMPUTER OUT.

[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43946806/mac1.jpg[/img]

[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43946806/mac3.jpg[/img]

[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43946806/mac4.jpg[/img]
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#19
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Make sure to clean out the old thermal paste...use rubbing alcohol.

Also, for most applications especially laptop coolers, you wont need to cover the entire die with the paste. Remember the paste is only there to fill in the gaps between the die and the heatpipe contacts.

Make sure to clean out the old thermal paste...use rubbing alcohol.

Also, for most applications especially laptop coolers, you wont need to cover the entire die with the paste. Remember the paste is only there to fill in the gaps between the die and the heatpipe contacts.
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#20
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try installing process lasso and then keep it running and when you open a game, set the process to above normal of somethin'. laptops in particular come with a lot of bloatware and unless you have done a full wipe, that could interfere with the games, getting worse over time as the shitty programming that's meant to optimize your system means stuffing the shit out of any game you run. try below normal too, see how the difference goes.

try installing process lasso and then keep it running and when you open a game, set the process to above normal of somethin'. laptops in particular come with a lot of bloatware and unless you have done a full wipe, that could interfere with the games, getting worse over time as the shitty programming that's meant to optimize your system means stuffing the shit out of any game you run. try below normal too, see how the difference goes.
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crespiI also play on a laptop (macbook pro)

When I first got this computer, about 2 years ago, it never dipped below 300 fps.

Then, last summer, an update came out and my frames started to drop. I figured it was the update. Every update after that my frames seemed to be even worse.

Then, just yesterday, I opened up my MBP and took a look inside. Guess what I found?

It's hard to see all of the dust that was in there before I cleaned it out, but it was a lot.

My cpu was throttling itself while tf2 was running, because under the load of tf2 it would have to completely throttle itself so that my computer didn't over heat. This was giving me terrible fps. As soon as I put her back together and booted tf2, I went from 40-60 fps back to 200+ with no dips.

CLEAN YOUR COMPUTER OUT.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43946806/mac1.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43946806/mac3.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43946806/mac4.jpg

Gonna do dis now :3
Update: now 55 aravage temp (not ingame) ingame: 67 so it helped but im still gonna get this cleaned by a pro ... there was some components i didnt like to mess with

[quote=crespi]I also play on a laptop (macbook pro)

When I first got this computer, about 2 years ago, it never dipped below 300 fps.

Then, last summer, an update came out and my frames started to drop. I figured it was the update. Every update after that my frames seemed to be even worse.

Then, just yesterday, I opened up my MBP and took a look inside. Guess what I found?

It's hard to see all of the dust that was in there before I cleaned it out, but it was a lot.

My cpu was throttling itself while tf2 was running, because under the load of tf2 it would have to completely throttle itself so that my computer didn't over heat. This was giving me terrible fps. As soon as I put her back together and booted tf2, I went from 40-60 fps back to 200+ with no dips.

CLEAN YOUR COMPUTER OUT.

[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43946806/mac1.jpg[/img]

[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43946806/mac3.jpg[/img]

[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43946806/mac4.jpg[/img][/quote]
Gonna do dis now :3
Update: now 55 aravage temp (not ingame) ingame: 67 so it helped but im still gonna get this cleaned by a pro ... there was some components i didnt like to mess with
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Oblivionageseeing as how the 500 series chips are very warm i'd assume it's the video card and not the cpu. Try http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

Fun fact my cpu is 20 degrees cel lower than my cpu .....

[quote=Oblivionage]seeing as how the 500 series chips are very warm i'd assume it's the video card and not the cpu. Try http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html[/quote]
Fun fact my cpu is 20 degrees cel lower than my cpu .....
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#23
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ishzbtGonna do dis now :3
Update: now 55 aravage temp (not ingame) ingame: 67 so it helped but im still gonna get this cleaned by a pro ... there was some components i didnt like to mess with

Sounds lke that helped a lot! :)

[quote=ishzbt]
Gonna do dis now :3
Update: now 55 aravage temp (not ingame) ingame: 67 so it helped but im still gonna get this cleaned by a pro ... there was some components i didnt like to mess with[/quote]

Sounds lke that helped a lot! :)
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#24
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crespiishzbtGonna do dis now :3
Update: now 55 aravage temp (not ingame) ingame: 67 so it helped but im still gonna get this cleaned by a pro ... there was some components i didnt like to mess with

Sounds lke that helped a lot! :)

Well in probably gonna get 16 gigs of ram soon or just 8 anything to recommend?

[quote=crespi][quote=ishzbt]
Gonna do dis now :3
Update: now 55 aravage temp (not ingame) ingame: 67 so it helped but im still gonna get this cleaned by a pro ... there was some components i didnt like to mess with[/quote]

Sounds lke that helped a lot! :)[/quote]

Well in probably gonna get 16 gigs of ram soon or just 8 anything to recommend?
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8 is enough already

8 is enough already
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ishzbtcrespiishzbtGonna do dis now :3
Update: now 55 aravage temp (not ingame) ingame: 67 so it helped but im still gonna get this cleaned by a pro ... there was some components i didnt like to mess with

Sounds lke that helped a lot! :)

Well in probably gonna get 16 gigs of ram soon or just 8 anything to recommend?

Yeah having more RAM will not get you more FPS. A lot of people nowadays with nice rigs have 16gb ram, but 8 is really fine if you're not doing anything super hardcore with your computer.

[quote=ishzbt][quote=crespi][quote=ishzbt]
Gonna do dis now :3
Update: now 55 aravage temp (not ingame) ingame: 67 so it helped but im still gonna get this cleaned by a pro ... there was some components i didnt like to mess with[/quote]

Sounds lke that helped a lot! :)[/quote]

Well in probably gonna get 16 gigs of ram soon or just 8 anything to recommend?[/quote]

Yeah having more RAM will not get you more FPS. A lot of people nowadays with nice rigs have 16gb ram, but 8 is really fine if you're not doing anything super hardcore with your computer.
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