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TFTV DM Servers - Status Updates and Discussion
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DM Servers
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Latest updates:

11/15/2016:
- Removed domination notifications from scoreboard
- Set Kills, Deaths, and Total Score to 0 points on scoreboard (total score visible in top three at end of level)

11/14/2016:
- Spawns fixed for cp_metalworks
- SOAP TF2DM Updated on all servers
- All servers updated to latest competitive maps (cp_granary_pro_rc4, cp_metalworks, cp_sunshine)
- koth_product_rc8 added to all servers
- cp_freight_final1 removed from ESEA whitelist servers (Chicago/Dallas 3)
- Chicago 1 and Chicago 2 DM servers are back online.

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I decided to make a forum topic separate to centralize all information regarding the DM servers, as well as containing all discussions regarding the DM servers in one place.

Please leave any questions, comments, or concerns below.

[b]Latest updates:[/b]

11/15/2016:
- Removed domination notifications from scoreboard
- Set Kills, Deaths, and Total Score to 0 points on scoreboard (total score visible in top three at end of level)

11/14/2016:
- Spawns fixed for cp_metalworks
- SOAP TF2DM Updated on all servers
- All servers updated to latest competitive maps (cp_granary_pro_rc4, cp_metalworks, cp_sunshine)
- koth_product_rc8 added to all servers
- cp_freight_final1 removed from ESEA whitelist servers (Chicago/Dallas 3)
- Chicago 1 and Chicago 2 DM servers are back online.

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I decided to make a forum topic separate to centralize all information regarding the DM servers, as well as containing all discussions regarding the DM servers in one place.

Please leave any questions, comments, or concerns below.
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#2
11 Frags +

can chicago dm 1 and 2 be re-listed in the servers tab

can chicago dm 1 and 2 be re-listed in the servers tab
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#3
DM Servers
6 Frags +
Vipercan chicago dm 1 and 2 be re-listed in the servers tab

That's not up to me, that would be for whoever updates that list.

[quote=Viper]can chicago dm 1 and 2 be re-listed in the servers tab[/quote]
That's not up to me, that would be for whoever updates that list.
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#4
29 Frags +

please give trusted members of the community that play a lot of dm the ability to ban/kick people so that one hacker can't fuck everything up anymore.

please give trusted members of the community that play a lot of dm the ability to ban/kick people so that one hacker can't fuck everything up anymore.
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#5
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FogThat's not up to me, that would be for whoever updates that list.

since their management has shifted from sal to you, you probably have to re-request they be added in the requests section of the forum

or just ask mana or slin, i'm sure they'll recognize that you've hosted servers for tf.tv before and would be happy to re-add the servers

[quote=Fog]That's not up to me, that would be for whoever updates that list.[/quote]
since their management has shifted from sal to you, you probably have to re-request they be added in the requests section of the forum

or just ask mana or slin, i'm sure they'll recognize that you've hosted servers for tf.tv before and would be happy to re-add the servers
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#6
12 Frags +

YO MY MAN

YO MY MAN
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#7
-9 Frags +

please get rid of the dm server with sniper, so dumb

please get rid of the dm server with sniper, so dumb
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#8
DM Servers
18 Frags +
frenzyxplease get rid of the dm server with sniper, so dumb

People want choice, I give them choice.

[quote=frenzyx]please get rid of the dm server with sniper, so dumb[/quote]
People want choice, I give them choice.
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#9
27 Frags +

a few things i feel are worth mentioning as a guy who runs a dm server

the map list: as far as i know sal was using a broken version of sourcemod and he couldnt find a way to use non-5cp maps in the rotation
im sure youre already looking into stuff like this but you should really consider adding the most recent version of product, and possibly readding turbine and gpit.
it would also be great to update sunshine and metalworks to their valve official versions instead of using the really outdated and frame-killing custom versions.
also this is my personal opinion but i feel like i gotta say; badlands and gullywash are not good dm maps and you should remove them. i get that theyre competitive staples but the spawns and layout of these maps do not make for a good dm experience.

the white list: this is probably a point of contention but imo it would be nice if you could keep it pretty limited in terms of what you allow. this is what i use http://whitelist.tf/6003
people should come to practice aiming, not using random weapon mechanics to cheese people

server settings: fixed spawns are bad use random ones
we turned damage based hp gain on recently and ive gotten mixed opinions on it. personally i like it more but there are some downsides.
as far as stopping the cheating guy, the route we went was using a plugin that completely blocked f2p accounts from joining. it seemed to work as ive never actually seen him in my server, the only downside being possibly blocking legitimate players using alts

i would really enjoy if you could restore the tftv servers to their former glory and i could stop wasting my money, thanks for taking this up

a few things i feel are worth mentioning as a guy who runs a dm server

[u]the map list[/u]: as far as i know sal was using a broken version of sourcemod and he couldnt find a way to use non-5cp maps in the rotation
im sure youre already looking into stuff like this but you should really consider adding the most recent version of product, and possibly readding turbine and gpit.
it would also be great to update sunshine and metalworks to their valve official versions instead of using the really outdated and frame-killing custom versions.
also this is my personal opinion but i feel like i gotta say; badlands and gullywash are not good dm maps and you should remove them. i get that theyre competitive staples but the spawns and layout of these maps do not make for a good dm experience.

[u]the white list:[/u] this is probably a point of contention but imo it would be nice if you could keep it pretty limited in terms of what you allow. this is what i use http://whitelist.tf/6003
people should come to practice aiming, not using random weapon mechanics to cheese people

[u]server settings:[/u] fixed spawns are bad use random ones
we turned damage based hp gain on recently and ive gotten mixed opinions on it. personally i like it more but there are some downsides.
as far as stopping the cheating guy, the route we went was using a plugin that completely blocked f2p accounts from joining. it seemed to work as ive never actually seen him in my server, the only downside being possibly blocking legitimate players using alts

i would really enjoy if you could restore the tftv servers to their former glory and i could stop wasting my money, thanks for taking this up
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#10
DM Servers
8 Frags +

Maps: I was planning on updating the maps to make sure that they're the proper competitive versions. I'll look into adding turbine and gravel pit, but I do remember being asked to remove them before. Perhaps things have changed since then. As for Badlands and Gullywash, I currently think they should stay as they are competitive staples, but I'm open to removing them.

Whitelist: I agree on limiting the items available on the whitelist for non ESEA whitelist servers. I'm out of the loop on weapons and such, so I'll have to take a closer look at it.

Server Settings: Will look into setting up random spawns and damaged based HP gains. As for cheating, I just applied a Steam Level limit (the one found on the profile) plugin which prohibits users below level 5 from joining the server. If that doesn't work, I can also apply the F2P plugin that is out there.

Maps: I was planning on updating the maps to make sure that they're the proper competitive versions. I'll look into adding turbine and gravel pit, but I do remember being asked to remove them before. Perhaps things have changed since then. As for Badlands and Gullywash, I currently think they should stay as they are competitive staples, but I'm open to removing them.

Whitelist: I agree on limiting the items available on the whitelist for non ESEA whitelist servers. I'm out of the loop on weapons and such, so I'll have to take a closer look at it.

Server Settings: Will look into setting up random spawns and damaged based HP gains. As for cheating, I just applied a Steam Level limit (the one found on the profile) plugin which prohibits users below level 5 from joining the server. If that doesn't work, I can also apply the F2P plugin that is out there.
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#11
8 Frags +
frenzyxplease get rid of the dm server with sniper, so dumb

I know it's super lame to play against a sniper, but as a dumb sniper main who likes to practice/get farmed on that server it is really good warmup

[quote=frenzyx]please get rid of the dm server with sniper, so dumb[/quote]
I know it's super lame to play against a sniper, but as a dumb sniper main who likes to practice/get farmed on that server it is really good warmup
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#12
8 Frags +
FogMaps

please put viaduct back in the dm server rotation

no one has any idea why was it removed in the first place

[quote=Fog]Maps[/quote]
please put viaduct back in the dm server rotation

no one has any idea why was it removed in the first place
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#13
-1 Frags +

I could do without turbine or granary, to be honest. Gravelpit and Viaduct are good though. I've never had a problem with badlands either.

I could do without turbine or granary, to be honest. Gravelpit and Viaduct are good though. I've never had a problem with badlands either.
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#14
1 Frags +

can we remove health packs or would that mean editing the map?

can we remove health packs or would that mean editing the map?
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#15
DM Servers
13 Frags +

- SOAP TF2DM Updated on all servers
- All servers updated to latest competitive maps (cp_granary_pro_rc4, cp_metalworks, cp_sunshine)
- koth_product_rc8 added to all servers
- cp_freight_final1 removed from ESEA whitelist servers (Chicago/Dallas 3)

The last one I'm still kinda iffy on, but to keep it in line with ESEA map rotation, I felt it made the most sense.

I'll be looking into additional changes later tonight.

- SOAP TF2DM Updated on all servers
- All servers updated to latest competitive maps (cp_granary_pro_rc4, cp_metalworks, cp_sunshine)
- koth_product_rc8 added to all servers
- cp_freight_final1 removed from ESEA whitelist servers (Chicago/Dallas 3)

The last one I'm still kinda iffy on, but to keep it in line with ESEA map rotation, I felt it made the most sense.

I'll be looking into additional changes later tonight.
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#16
DM Servers
3 Frags +
highpercan we remove health packs or would that mean editing the map?

The best that could possibly be done is disabling health packs from being able to be picked up, but even then that's a hypothetical option.

[quote=highper]can we remove health packs or would that mean editing the map?[/quote]
The best that could possibly be done is disabling health packs from being able to be picked up, but even then that's a hypothetical option.
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#17
1 Frags +

Not about the dm servers necessarily, but I don't want to make a new thread

Can the firepowered mge servers be added back onto the listing? I know that they were removed due to complaints but they're the only mge servers that are consistently populated and people who check tf.tv for mge servers might not know about them

Not about the dm servers necessarily, but I don't want to make a new thread

Can the firepowered mge servers be added back onto the listing? I know that they were removed due to complaints but they're the only mge servers that are consistently populated and people who check tf.tv for mge servers might not know about them
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#18
-5 Frags +

For the most part I agree with pelt about the whitelist. DM servers are for practice not for cheese but please please please allow the loch and load. It is is legal in all leagues now and is a legitimate choice unlike the direct hit.

I love what you've done with the maps I probably wouldn't change it. I personally hate dm'ing on badlands but it's a league map so it's probably best to leave it in.

For the most part I agree with pelt about the whitelist. DM servers are for practice not for cheese but please please please allow the loch and load. It is is legal in all leagues now and is a legitimate choice unlike the direct hit.

I love what you've done with the maps I probably wouldn't change it. I personally hate dm'ing on badlands but it's a league map so it's probably best to leave it in.
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#19
3 Frags +

Metalworks has an issue where a spawn location is inside of the new crates on mid.

Metalworks has an issue where a spawn location is inside of the new crates on mid.
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#20
DM Servers
5 Frags +
SaturniteMetalworks has an issue where a spawn location is inside of the new crates on mid.

Damn, I was hoping that the RC7 spawns would work with final version.

EDIT: Spawns fixed for cp_metalworks.

[quote=Saturnite]Metalworks has an issue where a spawn location is inside of the new crates on mid.[/quote]
Damn, I was hoping that the RC7 spawns would work with final version.

EDIT: Spawns fixed for cp_metalworks.
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#21
18 Frags +

I mean I will agree that I wasn't doing much for the DM servers, sorry guys I tried my best to contribute for everyone.

I know that Fog will make things 100x better than before, best of luck to him.

I mean I will agree that I wasn't doing much for the DM servers, sorry guys I tried my best to contribute for everyone.

I know that Fog will make things 100x better than before, best of luck to him.
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#22
DM Servers
5 Frags +

I looked at the whitelists, and they seem right about how they were when I left them for the regular servers. If this is not the case, I'll look into it again.

I looked at the whitelists, and they seem right about how they were when I left them for the regular servers. If this is not the case, I'll look into it again.
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#23
DM Servers
4 Frags +
Foghighpercan we remove health packs or would that mean editing the map?The best that could possibly be done is disabling health packs from being able to be picked up, but even then that's a hypothetical option.

Update on this, it is possible to remove the healthpacks, as well as ammopacks on the maps with a small change to SOAP TF2DM.

In fact, this has just been merged into the latest master version of SOAP TF2DM.

However, I don't want to be removing health packs and ammo packs without any discussion on it. I'd be looking into adding additional ways of regenerating ammo and health within SOAP.

[quote=Fog][quote=highper]can we remove health packs or would that mean editing the map?[/quote]
The best that could possibly be done is disabling health packs from being able to be picked up, but even then that's a hypothetical option.[/quote] Update on this, it is possible to remove the healthpacks, as well as ammopacks on the maps with a small change to SOAP TF2DM.

In fact, this has just been merged into the latest master version of SOAP TF2DM.

However, I don't want to be removing health packs and ammo packs without any discussion on it. I'd be looking into adding additional ways of regenerating ammo and health within SOAP.
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#24
4 Frags +
-SalI mean I will agree that I wasn't doing much for the DM servers, sorry guys I tried my best to contribute for everyone.

I know that Fog will make things 100x better than before, best of luck to him.

You did good sal

[quote=-Sal]I mean I will agree that I wasn't doing much for the DM servers, sorry guys I tried my best to contribute for everyone.

I know that Fog will make things 100x better than before, best of luck to him.[/quote]

You did good sal
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#25
1 Frags +

When I try to join a dm server I get an error that tells me I need to be "level 5" in order to join.

When I try to join a dm server I get an error that tells me I need to be "level 5" in order to join.
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#26
0 Frags +

spend like 2 dollars on csgo trading cards (i advise csgo bc you need 5 / pack, they're <10 cents each so <50c per level) and you'll be at level 5

spend like 2 dollars on csgo trading cards (i advise csgo bc you need 5 / pack, they're <10 cents each so <50c per level) and you'll be at level 5
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#27
DM Servers
12 Frags +

11/15/2016:
- Removed domination notifications from scoreboard
- Set Kills, Deaths, and Total Score to 0 points on scoreboard (total score visible in top three at end of level)

Still looking to set assists to 0 in the scoreboard, but it's a bit different compared to the others.

nick_When I try to join a dm server I get an error that tells me I need to be "level 5" in order to join.

It's a preventative measure to avoid having cheaters show up with new accounts.

11/15/2016:
- Removed domination notifications from scoreboard
- Set Kills, Deaths, and Total Score to 0 points on scoreboard (total score visible in top three at end of level)

Still looking to set assists to 0 in the scoreboard, but it's a bit different compared to the others.

[quote=nick_]When I try to join a dm server I get an error that tells me I need to be "level 5" in order to join.[/quote]
It's a preventative measure to avoid having cheaters show up with new accounts.
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#28
6 Frags +

reason for not showing points?
just curious

reason for not showing points?
just curious
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#29
7 Frags +
SpaceCadetreason for not showing points?
just curious

I think it might be to remove the ego out of dm, its supposed to be just simple dm practice, not who is the highest on the scoreboard.

[quote=SpaceCadet]reason for not showing points?
just curious[/quote]

I think it might be to remove the ego out of dm, its supposed to be just simple dm practice, not who is the highest on the scoreboard.
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#30
1 Frags +

Rip Freight.

Rip Freight.
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