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AVERMEDIA Live Gamer HD
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Does anyone have this? It's supposedly a capture card that allows you to stream at 720p 60fps or 1080p 30fps without using another computer (also with minimal hit to CPU). The reason I'm curious about this product is that the reviews are all over the place. Some people are saying the card doesn't work properly with xsplit, the screen flashes black from time to time, while others are saying there are absolutely no problems with xsplit and new drivers are being released monthly. From what it sounds the product was released with an handful of issues that are now fixed. I'd still like to know if anyone has this before putting the money aside for one.

Does anyone have this? It's supposedly a capture card that allows you to stream at 720p 60fps or 1080p 30fps without using another computer (also with minimal hit to CPU). The reason I'm curious about this product is that the reviews are all over the place. Some people are saying the card doesn't work properly with xsplit, the screen flashes black from time to time, while others are saying there are absolutely no problems with xsplit and new drivers are being released monthly. From what it sounds the product was released with an handful of issues that are now fixed. I'd still like to know if anyone has this before putting the money aside for one.
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Tlr said he uses it, and he runs a smooth stream at 720p 60 fps. Even synwyn said to get the capture card.

Tlr said he uses it, and he runs a smooth stream at 720p 60 fps. Even synwyn said to get the capture card.
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Tyler uses the AVERMEDIA Game Broadcaster HD which he says he uses two computers. The AVERMEDIA Live Gamer HD is an updated version. I'll have to talk to John about it, not really sure if he uses it, he just mentioned it before.

Edit: After looking into the one Tyler has, it doesn't need two computers. I have no idea why he has it setup that way.

Now I need to look into which one is better for the price.

Tyler uses the AVERMEDIA Game Broadcaster HD which he says he uses two computers. The AVERMEDIA Live Gamer HD is an updated version. I'll have to talk to John about it, not really sure if he uses it, he just mentioned it before.

Edit: After looking into the one Tyler has, it doesn't need two computers. I have no idea why he has it setup that way.

Now I need to look into which one is better for the price.
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The Game Broadcaster still uses your CPU to encode. It's mainly meant for consoles from what I've read. Using it with a two pc setup means the 2nd pc does the encoding, but if you only used one you probably wouldn't see much benefit. The Live Gamer does encoding itself so you can use it on one PC with minimal frame drops.

I've been researching the two a lot lately. Gonna be ordering the Live Broadcaster later this week. From what I understand you can stream with the ReCentral program itself, but the visual results aren't amazing yet (bitrate is locked). Whenever xsplit 1.1 is released you will be able to use the Live Gamer's hardware encoding with xpslit's expanded streaming features (namely the ability to set up different scenes) and have much better results. When that happens Live Gamer HD will be the best out there.

The Game Broadcaster still uses your CPU to encode. It's mainly meant for consoles from what I've read. Using it with a two pc setup means the 2nd pc does the encoding, but if you only used one you probably wouldn't see much benefit. The Live Gamer does encoding itself so you can use it on one PC with minimal frame drops.

I've been researching the two a lot lately. Gonna be ordering the Live Broadcaster later this week. From what I understand you can stream with the ReCentral program itself, but the visual results aren't amazing yet (bitrate is locked). Whenever xsplit 1.1 is released you will be able to use the Live Gamer's hardware encoding with xpslit's expanded streaming features (namely the ability to set up different scenes) and have much better results. When that happens Live Gamer HD will be the best out there.
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someone from twitch staff brought this card up while we were all in lansky's stream with him saying it'll push cpu usage down to near nothing

someone from twitch staff brought this card up while we were all in lansky's stream with him saying it'll push cpu usage down to near nothing
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say you wanna use a 120hz monitor, how would you hook up the AVERMEDIA Live Gamer HD if you want to use the same PC to game and stream? At the moment, i have 2 monitors hooked up so i'd imagine i'd have to sacrifice one monitor and have my gpu output in cloned mode. One 120hz dual link, the other dvi to hdmi at 60hz if that is even possible.

this would be my only option as my power bill are surging through the roof and i can't afford to have yet another pc running for extended periods of times.

say you wanna use a 120hz monitor, how would you hook up the AVERMEDIA Live Gamer HD if you want to use the same PC to game and stream? At the moment, i have 2 monitors hooked up so i'd imagine i'd have to sacrifice one monitor and have my gpu output in cloned mode. One 120hz dual link, the other dvi to hdmi at 60hz if that is even possible.

this would be my only option as my power bill are surging through the roof and i can't afford to have yet another pc running for extended periods of times.
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Sweet! Thanks for the info, probably gonna hold off until 1.1 comes out.

Sweet! Thanks for the info, probably gonna hold off until 1.1 comes out.
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nataponsay you wanna use a 120hz monitor, how would you hook up the AVERMEDIA Live Gamer HD if you want to use the same PC to game and stream? At the moment, i have 2 monitors hooked up so i'd imagine i'd have to sacrifice one monitor and have my gpu output in cloned mode. One 120hz dual link, the other dvi to hdmi at 60hz if that is even possible.

yep, it works. i've done it before exactly as you've described.

[quote=natapon]say you wanna use a 120hz monitor, how would you hook up the AVERMEDIA Live Gamer HD if you want to use the same PC to game and stream? At the moment, i have 2 monitors hooked up so i'd imagine i'd have to sacrifice one monitor and have my gpu output in cloned mode. One 120hz dual link, the other dvi to hdmi at 60hz if that is even possible.[/quote]
yep, it works. i've done it before exactly as you've described.
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say if i wanna keep my dual monitor setup, based on above mentioned setup, that would require 3 simultaneous outputs which older generation nvidia based cards probably wont be able to handle. it would require dual-link dvi, its 60hz clone to the AVERMEDIA Live Gamer HD using another dvi/hdmi or hdmi, and a third dvi for the 2nd monitor.

that would in theory allow you to run dual displays and stream at the same time with minimal frame loss using only 1 pc.

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another thing that intrigues me is the possibility of input delay with the use of usb webcams. this wouldn't be an issue if one had a separate stream rig as the webcam can be plugged into that. but in a one pc setup, that would make fps games unplayable. my concern of this arises from my experience with skype and other video recording software using my webcam.

say if i wanna keep my dual monitor setup, based on above mentioned setup, that would require 3 simultaneous outputs which older generation nvidia based cards probably wont be able to handle. it would require dual-link dvi, its 60hz clone to the AVERMEDIA Live Gamer HD using another dvi/hdmi or hdmi, and a third dvi for the 2nd monitor.

that would in theory allow you to run dual displays and stream at the same time with minimal frame loss using only 1 pc.

edit:
another thing that intrigues me is the possibility of input delay with the use of usb webcams. this wouldn't be an issue if one had a separate stream rig as the webcam can be plugged into that. but in a one pc setup, that would make fps games unplayable. my concern of this arises from my experience with skype and other video recording software using my webcam.
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