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#301
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saturn_do you seriously think a non-passing trans person would try to go into the bathroom in the first place and completely disregard their own safety what the fuck

I do. On very rare occasions obviously, but it has happened and I linked a couple news articles on the previous page.

[quote=saturn_]do you seriously think a non-passing trans person would try to go into the bathroom in the first place and completely disregard their own safety what the fuck[/quote]

I do. On very rare occasions obviously, but it has happened and I linked a couple news articles on the previous page.
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#302
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cleaning ladies confirmed for evil transgender bathroom rapists

cleaning ladies confirmed for evil transgender bathroom rapists
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#303
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saturn_cleaning ladies confirmed for evil transgender bathroom rapists

Nice exaggeration. My point is that the opposite sex in the same bathroom as you can be an uncomfortable and inconvenient experience and I know this from first hand experience.

[quote=saturn_]cleaning ladies confirmed for evil transgender bathroom rapists[/quote]

Nice exaggeration. My point is that the opposite sex in the same bathroom as you can be an uncomfortable and inconvenient experience and I know this from first hand experience.
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#304
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I would ask for this thread to be closed as this point because the entirety of the counter argument is two people who have a total of two articles that have not entirely been falsified but have as much connection to gender dysphoria as vaccines to autism.

But it shouldn't be closed so as many people as possible can read the pandora's box of ignorance that has been opened by my two favorite posters so everyone can help learn of the issues facing trans people today and fight against these very harmful opinions.

I would ask for this thread to be closed as this point because the entirety of the counter argument is two people who have a total of two articles that have not entirely been falsified but have as much connection to gender dysphoria as vaccines to autism.

But it shouldn't be closed so as many people as possible can read the pandora's box of ignorance that has been opened by my two favorite posters so everyone can help learn of the issues facing trans people today and fight against these very harmful opinions.
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#305
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ok so it went from a safety thing to not being uncomfortable and inconvenienced

ok so it went from a safety thing to not being uncomfortable and inconvenienced
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#306
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dollarlayerYea along the same lines as that, in Asia it was quite common for cleaning ladies to enter a bathroom with no notice while a man is there peeing or whatever. They would start moping the bathroom and sometimes even come quite close to you, to the point where you might feel like they are checking you out. This happened to me multiple times. After that happened the first time, if a women would enter, I'd usually zip up and go into a bathroom stall. Very annoying and an uncomfortable experience.

Haha this is GOLD
How do you know those weren't trans women? Did you check their genitals? Maybe they actually had penises and therefore (according to your shitty logic) they belonged in the men's bathroom. Do you realize this is the exact type of situation trans people are trying to avoid? Do you realize JUST how shitty your argument is yet?

[quote=dollarlayer]
Yea along the same lines as that, in Asia it was quite common for cleaning ladies to enter a bathroom with no notice while a man is there peeing or whatever. They would start moping the bathroom and sometimes even come quite close to you, to the point where you might feel like they are checking you out. This happened to me multiple times. After that happened the first time, if a women would enter, I'd usually zip up and go into a bathroom stall. Very annoying and an uncomfortable experience.[/quote]

Haha this is GOLD
How do you know those weren't trans women? Did you check their genitals? Maybe they actually had penises and therefore (according to your shitty logic) they belonged in the men's bathroom. Do you realize this is the exact type of situation trans people are trying to avoid? Do you realize JUST how shitty your argument is yet?
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#307
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AvastI would ask for this thread to be closed as this point because the entirety of the counter argument is two people who have a total of two articles that have not entirely been falsified but have as much connection to gender dysphoria as vaccines to autism.

But it shouldn't be closed so as many people as possible can read the pandora's box of ignorance that has been opened by my two favorite posters so everyone can help learn of the issues facing trans people today and fight against these very harmful opinions.

Liberal logic right there. If you don't agree with something, just refute it without debate and close down the discussion. If you don't want to participate in this thread, just don't, no ones forcing you to. Just be mature about it and ignore it and enjoy the rest of tf.tv. And just an FYI a difference in opinion or belief isn't ignorance.

[quote=Avast]I would ask for this thread to be closed as this point because the entirety of the counter argument is two people who have a total of two articles that have not entirely been falsified but have as much connection to gender dysphoria as vaccines to autism.

But it shouldn't be closed so as many people as possible can read the pandora's box of ignorance that has been opened by my two favorite posters so everyone can help learn of the issues facing trans people today and fight against these very harmful opinions.[/quote]

Liberal logic right there. If you don't agree with something, just refute it without debate and close down the discussion. If you don't want to participate in this thread, just don't, no ones forcing you to. Just be mature about it and ignore it and enjoy the rest of tf.tv. And just an FYI a difference in opinion or belief isn't ignorance.
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#308
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stop calling everything that you dont agree with liberal logic it makes you seem like an idiot

stop calling everything that you dont agree with liberal logic it makes you seem like an idiot
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#309
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actual trans girl shows up and tells u how trans people feel about the bathroom thing and u still want to project some ill intent onto trans people man idk you're either actually retarded or just searching for some reason to justify not feeling comfortable around trans people

tbh continuing to post is a terrible idea because at this point 90% of the community thinks yr an ass or a bigot so you're p fucked 3 months from now if u want to find a team or smthn

actual trans girl shows up and tells u how trans people feel about the bathroom thing and u still want to project some ill intent onto trans people man idk you're either actually retarded or just searching for some reason to justify not feeling comfortable around trans people

tbh continuing to post is a terrible idea because at this point 90% of the community thinks yr an ass or a bigot so you're p fucked 3 months from now if u want to find a team or smthn
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#310
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i dont even know what youre arguing for besides that trannies and cleaning ladies are vaguely gross and make you uncomfortable

i dont even know what youre arguing for besides that trannies and cleaning ladies are vaguely gross and make you uncomfortable
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#311
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dollarlayerLiberal logic right there. If you don't agree with something, just refute it without debate and close down the discussion. If you don't want to participate in this thread, just don't, no ones forcing you to. Just be mature about it and ignore it and enjoy the rest of tf.tv. And just an FYI a difference in opinion or belief isn't ignorance.

except you're basically the only conservative arguing right now and the rest of us are liberals? one person wants to close the thread and suddenly its GOD DAMN THESE PESKY LIBERALS THEY'RE ALL THE SAME THEY DON'T EVEN WANT TO PARTICIPATE

[quote=dollarlayer]
Liberal logic right there. If you don't agree with something, just refute it without debate and close down the discussion. If you don't want to participate in this thread, just don't, no ones forcing you to. Just be mature about it and ignore it and enjoy the rest of tf.tv. And just an FYI a difference in opinion or belief isn't ignorance.[/quote]
except you're basically the only conservative arguing right now and the rest of us are liberals? one person wants to close the thread and suddenly its GOD DAMN THESE PESKY LIBERALS THEY'RE ALL THE SAME THEY DON'T EVEN WANT TO PARTICIPATE
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#312
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his argument has shifted entirely since the beginning of the thread, and he has never once conceded that he was wrong, instead just pretending that you misunderstood him and his Real argument was something else

his argument has shifted entirely since the beginning of the thread, and he has never once conceded that he was wrong, instead just pretending that you misunderstood him and his [i]Real[/i] argument was something else
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#313
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remedystop calling everything that you dont agree with liberal logic it makes you seem like an idiot

Avasts viewpoints consistently demonstrated his liberal viewpoints, as have the majority of the people in this thread. Is the term liberal offensive to you? I'm not the one throwing around phrases like "retard" "no brain" "idiot" etc.

nitehis argument has shifted entirely since the beginning of the thread, and he has never once conceded that he was wrong, instead just pretending that you misunderstood him and his Real argument was something else

I didn't know that opinions could be write or wrong.

[quote=remedy]stop calling everything that you dont agree with liberal logic it makes you seem like an idiot[/quote]

Avasts viewpoints consistently demonstrated his liberal viewpoints, as have the majority of the people in this thread. Is the term liberal offensive to you? I'm not the one throwing around phrases like "retard" "no brain" "idiot" etc.

[quote=nite]his argument has shifted entirely since the beginning of the thread, and he has never once conceded that he was wrong, instead just pretending that you misunderstood him and his [i]Real[/i] argument was something else[/quote]

I didn't know that opinions could be write or wrong.
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#314
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kittyni dont even know what youre arguing for besides that trannies and cleaning ladies are vaguely gross and make you uncomfortable

Yet at the same time he's arguing that trans women be forced into the same bathroom with him. there's no logic to be found here

[quote=kittyn]i dont even know what youre arguing for besides that trannies and cleaning ladies are vaguely gross and make you uncomfortable[/quote]

Yet at the same time he's arguing that trans women be forced into the same bathroom with him. there's no logic to be found here
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#315
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dollarlayerAvastI would ask for this thread to be closed as this point because the entirety of the counter argument is two people who have a total of two articles that have not entirely been falsified but have as much connection to gender dysphoria as vaccines to autism.

But it shouldn't be closed so as many people as possible can read the pandora's box of ignorance that has been opened by my two favorite posters so everyone can help learn of the issues facing trans people today and fight against these very harmful opinions.

Liberal logic right there. If you don't agree with something, just refute it without debate and close down the discussion. If you don't want to participate in this thread, just don't, no ones forcing you to. Just be mature about it and ignore it and enjoy the rest of tf.tv. And just an FYI a difference in opinion or belief isn't ignorance.

people in this thread have done nothing but refute your arguments with sources and point out fallacies and suddenly it's just "liberal logic this liberals don't want to argue :( :( :(." like, never once have you actually responded to someone completely refuting your point & instead you just shifted onto another shitty argument

like your entire point of view is so incoherent that cleaning ladies make you vaguely uncomfortable and yet you're arguing that trans woman be forced into the same bathroom as you?? what the fuck are you on

[quote=dollarlayer][quote=Avast]I would ask for this thread to be closed as this point because the entirety of the counter argument is two people who have a total of two articles that have not entirely been falsified but have as much connection to gender dysphoria as vaccines to autism.

But it shouldn't be closed so as many people as possible can read the pandora's box of ignorance that has been opened by my two favorite posters so everyone can help learn of the issues facing trans people today and fight against these very harmful opinions.[/quote]

Liberal logic right there. If you don't agree with something, just refute it without debate and close down the discussion. If you don't want to participate in this thread, just don't, no ones forcing you to. Just be mature about it and ignore it and enjoy the rest of tf.tv. And just an FYI a difference in opinion or belief isn't ignorance.[/quote]
people in this thread have done nothing but refute your arguments with sources and point out fallacies and suddenly it's just "liberal logic this liberals don't want to argue :( :( :(." like, never once have you actually responded to someone completely refuting your point & instead you just shifted onto another shitty argument

like your entire point of view is so incoherent that cleaning ladies make you vaguely uncomfortable and yet you're arguing that trans woman be forced into the same bathroom as you?? what the fuck are you on
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#316
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dollarlayerremedystop calling everything that you dont agree with liberal logic it makes you seem like an idiot
Avasts viewpoints consistently demonstrated his liberal viewpoints, as have the majority of the people in this thread. Is the term liberal offensive to you? I'm not the one throwing around phrases like "retard" "no brain" "idiot" etc.

try not being a retard then?

[quote=dollarlayer][quote=remedy]stop calling everything that you dont agree with liberal logic it makes you seem like an idiot[/quote]

Avasts viewpoints consistently demonstrated his liberal viewpoints, as have the majority of the people in this thread. Is the term liberal offensive to you? I'm not the one throwing around phrases like "retard" "no brain" "idiot" etc.[/quote]
try not being a retard then?
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#317
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"Avasts viewpoints consistently demonstrated his liberal viewpoints, as have the majority of the people in this thread. Is the term liberal offensive to you? I'm not the one throwing around phrases like "retard" "no brain" "idiot" etc."

im just giving you some advice, it really hurts your argument when you say things like that :) and no the term liberal doesn't offend me i was born this way

"Avasts viewpoints consistently demonstrated his liberal viewpoints, as have the majority of the people in this thread. Is the term liberal offensive to you? I'm not the one throwing around phrases like "retard" "no brain" "idiot" etc."

im just giving you some advice, it really hurts your argument when you say things like that :) and no the term liberal doesn't offend me i was born this way
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#318
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dollarlayerremedystop calling everything that you dont agree with liberal logic it makes you seem like an idiot
Avasts viewpoints consistently demonstrated his liberal viewpoints, as have the majority of the people in this thread. Is the term liberal offensive to you? I'm not the one throwing around phrases like "retard" "no brain" "idiot" etc.

avast is liberal and avast wants to close the thread, therefore liberals typically want to close threads and avoid discussion
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[quote=dollarlayer][quote=remedy]stop calling everything that you dont agree with liberal logic it makes you seem like an idiot[/quote]

Avasts viewpoints consistently demonstrated his liberal viewpoints, as have the majority of the people in this thread. Is the term liberal offensive to you? I'm not the one throwing around phrases like "retard" "no brain" "idiot" etc.[/quote]
avast is liberal and avast wants to close the thread, therefore liberals typically want to close threads and avoid discussion
d i v i s i o n f a l l a c y
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#319
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eeedollarlayerremedystop calling everything that you dont agree with liberal logic it makes you seem like an idiot
Avasts viewpoints consistently demonstrated his liberal viewpoints, as have the majority of the people in this thread. Is the term liberal offensive to you? I'm not the one throwing around phrases like "retard" "no brain" "idiot" etc.
try not being a retard then?

There it is, more name calling! Maturity at its finest!

[quote=eee][quote=dollarlayer][quote=remedy]stop calling everything that you dont agree with liberal logic it makes you seem like an idiot[/quote]

Avasts viewpoints consistently demonstrated his liberal viewpoints, as have the majority of the people in this thread. Is the term liberal offensive to you? I'm not the one throwing around phrases like "retard" "no brain" "idiot" etc.[/quote]
try not being a retard then?[/quote]

There it is, more name calling! Maturity at its finest!
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#320
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dollarlayernitehis argument has shifted entirely since the beginning of the thread, and he has never once conceded that he was wrong, instead just pretending that you misunderstood him and his Real argument was something else
I didn't know that opinions could be write or wrong.

opinions cant be wrong, but they can be ill informed, hateful, and ignorant of actual facts which have been presented numerous times throughout this thread

[quote=dollarlayer]
[quote=nite]his argument has shifted entirely since the beginning of the thread, and he has never once conceded that he was wrong, instead just pretending that you misunderstood him and his [i]Real[/i] argument was something else[/quote]

I didn't know that opinions could be write or wrong.[/quote]

opinions cant be wrong, but they can be ill informed, hateful, and ignorant of actual facts which have been presented numerous times throughout this thread
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#321
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heres a question for you if youre a conservative
why do you want to waste tax money and govt time passing and enforcing laws against trannies going to the bathroom when everything is fine the way it is besides crazy shit you made up in your head? and how would you even prevent trannies from going to the bathroom they want anyways besides wasting more taxpayer money arresting them

heres a question for you if youre a conservative
why do you want to waste tax money and govt time passing and enforcing laws against trannies going to the bathroom when everything is fine the way it is besides crazy shit you made up in your head? and how would you even prevent trannies from going to the bathroom they want anyways besides wasting more taxpayer money arresting them
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#322
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kittynheres a question for you if youre a conservative
why do you want to waste tax money and govt time passing and enforcing laws against trannies going to the bathroom when everything is fine the way it is besides crazy shit you made up in your head? and how would you even prevent trannies from going to the bathroom they want anyways besides wasting more taxpayer money arresting them

Are you saying that passing reasonable legislation is more costly than the lawsuits that will result over the next decade because of lack of clarity in the law or non-existent transgender laws in some states?

[quote=kittyn]heres a question for you if youre a conservative
why do you want to waste tax money and govt time passing and enforcing laws against trannies going to the bathroom when everything is fine the way it is besides crazy shit you made up in your head? and how would you even prevent trannies from going to the bathroom they want anyways besides wasting more taxpayer money arresting them[/quote]

Are you saying that passing reasonable legislation is more costly than the lawsuits that will result over the next decade because of lack of clarity in the law or non-existent transgender laws in some states?
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#323
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dollarlayerAre you saying that passing reasonable legislation is more costly than the lawsuits that will result over the next decade?

one of those is a guaranteed cost, the other is a cost that you have invented to suit your claims and that there is no proof of actually existing

[quote=dollarlayer]
Are you saying that passing reasonable legislation is more costly than the lawsuits that will result over the next decade?[/quote]

one of those is a guaranteed cost, the other is a cost that you have invented to suit your claims and that there is no proof of actually existing
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#324
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she's also saying those lawsuits will be almost non-existent so passing laws for that stuff is a complete waste of time

she's also saying those lawsuits will be almost non-existent so passing laws for that stuff is a complete waste of time
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#325
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nite
opinions cant be wrong, but they can be ill informed, hateful, and ignorant of actual facts, which have been presented numerous times throughout this thread

Actually opinions can be completely wrong lmao, if your "opinion" is actually verifiable claims you are making, like many of the "opinions" in this thread.

If your opinion is that 2+2=5, its wrong

[quote=nite]

opinions cant be wrong, but they can be ill informed, hateful, and ignorant of actual facts, which have been presented numerous times throughout this thread[/quote]

Actually opinions can be completely wrong lmao, if your "opinion" is actually verifiable claims you are making, like many of the "opinions" in this thread.

If your opinion is that 2+2=5, its wrong
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#326
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dollarlayereeedollarlayerremedystop calling everything that you dont agree with liberal logic it makes you seem like an idiot
Avasts viewpoints consistently demonstrated his liberal viewpoints, as have the majority of the people in this thread. Is the term liberal offensive to you? I'm not the one throwing around phrases like "retard" "no brain" "idiot" etc.
try not being a retard then?

There it is, more name calling! Maturity at its finest!

i explained why continuing to respond in this thread is a terrible decision if you want to keep playing this game

[quote=dollarlayer][quote=eee][quote=dollarlayer][quote=remedy]stop calling everything that you dont agree with liberal logic it makes you seem like an idiot[/quote]

Avasts viewpoints consistently demonstrated his liberal viewpoints, as have the majority of the people in this thread. Is the term liberal offensive to you? I'm not the one throwing around phrases like "retard" "no brain" "idiot" etc.[/quote]
try not being a retard then?[/quote]

There it is, more name calling! Maturity at its finest![/quote]
i explained why continuing to respond in this thread is a terrible decision if you want to keep playing this game
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#327
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dollarlayer
Are you saying that passing reasonable legislation is more costly than the lawsuits that will result over the next decade because of lack of clarity in the law or non-existent transgender laws in some states?

Trans people have already been allowed in bathrooms of their choice in certain places for more than a decade in some states. Where's all the lawsuits?

Edit: Wait, as early as 1993 LMAO. That's 2 decades

[quote=dollarlayer]

Are you saying that passing reasonable legislation is more costly than the lawsuits that will result over the next decade because of lack of clarity in the law or non-existent transgender laws in some states?[/quote]

Trans people have already been allowed in bathrooms of their choice in certain places for more than a decade in some states. Where's all the lawsuits?

Edit: Wait, as early as 1993 LMAO. That's 2 decades
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#328
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LsRainbowsnite
opinions cant be wrong, but they can be ill informed, hateful, and ignorant of actual facts, which have been presented numerous times throughout this thread

Actually opinions can be completely wrong lmao, if your "opinion" is actually verifiable claims you are making, like many of the "opinions" in this thread.

If your opinion is that 2+2=5, its wrong
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actually facts can be wrong, opinions cannot. a fact is something that can be proven. 2+2=5 is a fact, but it's a wrong fact. the definition is kinda wonky but that's how most people are taught. a fact is something testable. look up fact vs opinion and you'll find that everywhere you look.
water is wet = fact
water is dry = fact
she is pretty = opinion
unless my public school education lied to me which is highly possible bc i keep getting definitions online as facts being the ultimate truth, but when you look up fact vs opinion it's tons of stuff that say different I'M SO CONFUSED
this is so irrelevant to the discussion tho thats why i spoiler'd this
[quote=LsRainbows][quote=nite]

opinions cant be wrong, but they can be ill informed, hateful, and ignorant of actual facts, which have been presented numerous times throughout this thread[/quote]

Actually opinions can be completely wrong lmao, if your "opinion" is actually verifiable claims you are making, like many of the "opinions" in this thread.

If your opinion is that 2+2=5, its wrong[/quote]
[spoiler]actually facts can be wrong, opinions cannot. a fact is something that can be proven. 2+2=5 is a fact, but it's a wrong fact. the definition is kinda wonky but that's how most people are taught. a fact is something testable. look up fact vs opinion and you'll find that everywhere you look.
water is wet = fact
water is dry = fact
she is pretty = opinion
unless my public school education lied to me which is highly possible bc i keep getting definitions online as facts being the ultimate truth, but when you look up fact vs opinion it's tons of stuff that say different I'M SO CONFUSED
this is so irrelevant to the discussion tho thats why i spoiler'd this[/spoiler]
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#329
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its fine to think that trans people are icky

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(they are)

but dont pretend youre doing it because youre looking out for america or society or women its really patronizing and condescending

its fine to think that trans people are icky [spoiler](they are)[/spoiler] but dont pretend youre doing it because youre looking out for america or society or women its really patronizing and condescending
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#330
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if you were to post credible sources and statistics to back up any of your claims without relying on completely rhetorical situations that wouldn't feasibly happen in real life & anecdotal evidence based on your experience with bathroom janitors then more people might be willing to listen to your bigoted claims masquerading as "opinions"

but, so far, you really haven't

if you were to post credible sources and statistics to back up any of your claims without relying on completely rhetorical situations that wouldn't feasibly happen in real life & anecdotal evidence based on your experience with bathroom janitors then more people might be willing to listen to your bigoted claims masquerading as "opinions"

but, so far, you really haven't
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