dogglesWhat we care about is having fun, and I happen to think Invite is where fun goes to die. That's all. Last season the teams had a 50% survival rate, and I've spent enough time there already to know why that is the case.
this is such a stupid attitude. nobody in invite is playing tf2 for money or anything like that. pretty sure everyone in invite is playing because they enjoy the game and the competition. if i was playing for any reason other than fun i would go play LoL or some other game you can actually make money from. teams may break up after the season ends but that doesn't mean they didn't have fun playing. mihalys flow broke up after s11 but i had a blast playing with that team, even coming in 4th at lan. just becuase you've had a bad experience in invite before doesn't make you qualified to speak on everyone elses behalf.
if you said you didn't enjoy playing invite then i would understand. but you keep wording it as if nobody can ever enjoying playing invite level tf2 and as if it is some blackhole that sucks out all fun from the game.
[quote=doggles]What we care about is having fun, and I happen to think Invite is where fun goes to die. That's all. Last season the teams had a 50% survival rate, and I've spent enough time there already to know why that is the case.[/quote]
this is such a stupid attitude. nobody in invite is playing tf2 for money or anything like that. pretty sure everyone in invite is playing because they enjoy the game and the competition. if i was playing for any reason other than fun i would go play LoL or some other game you can actually make money from. teams may break up after the season ends but that doesn't mean they didn't have fun playing. mihalys flow broke up after s11 but i had a blast playing with that team, even coming in 4th at lan. just becuase you've had a bad experience in invite before doesn't make you qualified to speak on everyone elses behalf.
if you said you didn't enjoy playing invite then i would understand. but you keep wording it as if nobody can ever enjoying playing invite level tf2 and as if it is some blackhole that sucks out all fun from the game.
KoobadoobsNo teams are going to be the same as last season, so that's one big advantage you will have, and that should make you want to move while your team is good enough to at least make top 5, maybe get a LAN spot.
I'm just no longer at the point where I feel that its worth it to make the necessary sacrifices to reach that level, and because of that, our team will be unfit for Invite.
harbleuthis is such a stupid attitude. nobody in invite is playing tf2 for money or anything like that. pretty sure everyone in invite is playing because they enjoy the game and the competition. if i was playing for any reason other than fun i would go play LoL or some other game you can actually make money from. teams may break up after the season ends but that doesn't mean they didn't have fun playing. mihalys flow broke up after s11 but i had a blast playing with that team, even coming in 4th at lan. just becuase you've had a bad experience in invite before doesn't make you qualified to speak on everyone elses behalf.
if you said you didn't enjoy playing invite then i would understand. but you keep wording it as if nobody can ever enjoying playing invite level tf2 and as if it is some blackhole that sucks out all fun from the game.
Do you really think your team would come close to surviving for even one season with a negative record? Be honest.
Do you even remember how you behaved the last time you lost?
http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/442226/
[quote=Koobadoobs]No teams are going to be the same as last season, so that's one big advantage you will have, and that should make you want to move while your team is good enough to at least make top 5, maybe get a LAN spot.[/quote]
I'm just no longer at the point where I feel that its worth it to make the necessary sacrifices to reach that level, and because of that, our team will be unfit for Invite.
[quote=harbleu]
this is such a stupid attitude. nobody in invite is playing tf2 for money or anything like that. pretty sure everyone in invite is playing because they enjoy the game and the competition. if i was playing for any reason other than fun i would go play LoL or some other game you can actually make money from. teams may break up after the season ends but that doesn't mean they didn't have fun playing. mihalys flow broke up after s11 but i had a blast playing with that team, even coming in 4th at lan. just becuase you've had a bad experience in invite before doesn't make you qualified to speak on everyone elses behalf.
if you said you didn't enjoy playing invite then i would understand. but you keep wording it as if nobody can ever enjoying playing invite level tf2 and as if it is some blackhole that sucks out all fun from the game.[/quote]
Do you really think your team would come close to surviving for even one season with a negative record? Be honest.
Do you even remember how you behaved the last time you lost?
http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/442226/
dogglesDo you really think your team would come close to surviving for even one season with a negative record? Be honest.
Do you even remember how you behaved the last time you lost?
http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/442226/
yes i do remember the last time i was on a losing team. i regret acting the way i did and think i was a faggot. but if you want the honest opinion on if i would survive on a team with a losing record then yeah, i think i would now. back then my only goal was to make lan and win, which was pretty fucking stupid. hopefully you wouldn't act like the way i did a year ago. back s8 when i joined x6 our original goal was to get about 4 wins, we never expected to go undefeated or even to make lan. if you go into the season with realistic expectations you will have a lot more fun. if your team for example went in with the expectations of winning 12 matches and ended up only winning 2 you definitely wouldn't be having fun. but if your goal is to have fun playing and maybe win a match here and there then i can assure you it is no less fun than playing in im.
anyway i voted vector in the poll becuase i feel like they would put in more effort and ultimately do a better job than you guys. good luck next season whether it be im or invite.
[quote=doggles]
Do you really think your team would come close to surviving for even one season with a negative record? Be honest.
Do you even remember how you behaved the last time you lost?
http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/442226/[/quote]
yes i do remember the last time i was on a losing team. i regret acting the way i did and think i was a faggot. but if you want the honest opinion on if i would survive on a team with a losing record then yeah, i think i would now. back then my only goal was to make lan and win, which was pretty fucking stupid. hopefully you wouldn't act like the way i did a year ago. back s8 when i joined x6 our original goal was to get about 4 wins, we never expected to go undefeated or even to make lan. if you go into the season with realistic expectations you will have a lot more fun. if your team for example went in with the expectations of winning 12 matches and ended up only winning 2 you definitely wouldn't be having fun. but if your goal is to have fun playing and maybe win a match here and there then i can assure you it is no less fun than playing in im.
anyway i voted vector in the poll becuase i feel like they would put in more effort and ultimately do a better job than you guys. good luck next season whether it be im or invite.
ukmwe lost to vector, deltafox, xen, we can warriors, and kapow's team
I don't think we are terrible but I'm not sure why people think that we will STOMP IM or that we didn't have a challenging season
deltafox was a 5v6 :P regardless, you had 4 losses all season and finished 3rd so that loss you had to wcw can be viewed as a deviation from the norm. i said i see where doggles is coming from, but it's pretty apparent if you guys were to stay in IM you'd easily be a top 3 team once again. i see it from both sides mang mang
[quote=ukm]we lost to vector, deltafox, xen, we can warriors, and kapow's team
I don't think we are terrible but I'm not sure why people think that we will STOMP IM or that we didn't have a challenging season
[/quote]
deltafox was a 5v6 :P regardless, you had 4 losses all season and finished 3rd so that loss you had to wcw can be viewed as a deviation from the norm. i said i see where doggles is coming from, but it's pretty apparent if you guys were to stay in IM you'd easily be a top 3 team once again. i see it from both sides mang mang
harbleuif you said you didn't enjoy playing invite then i would understand. but you keep wording it as if nobody can ever enjoying playing invite level tf2 and as if it is some blackhole that sucks out all fun from the game.
people who win in invite have fun, people who lose in invite dont
this is almost universally true
[quote=harbleu]if you said you didn't enjoy playing invite then i would understand. but you keep wording it as if nobody can ever enjoying playing invite level tf2 and as if it is some blackhole that sucks out all fun from the game.[/quote]
people who win in invite have fun, people who lose in invite dont
this is almost universally true
marmadukeGRYLLSukmwe lost to vector, deltafox, xen, we can warriors, and kapow's team
I don't think we are terrible but I'm not sure why people think that we will STOMP IM or that we didn't have a challenging season
deltafox was a 5v6 :P regardless, you had 4 losses all season and finished 3rd so that loss you had to wcw can be viewed as a deviation from the norm. i said i see where doggles is coming from, but it's pretty apparent if you guys were to stay in IM you'd easily be a top 3 team once again. i see it from both sides mang mang
ok, and if we arent in there some other team will be top 3 im. top 3 does not mean "too good for the division"
[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS][quote=ukm]we lost to vector, deltafox, xen, we can warriors, and kapow's team
I don't think we are terrible but I'm not sure why people think that we will STOMP IM or that we didn't have a challenging season
[/quote]
deltafox was a 5v6 :P regardless, you had 4 losses all season and finished 3rd so that loss you had to wcw can be viewed as a deviation from the norm. i said i see where doggles is coming from, but it's pretty apparent if you guys were to stay in IM you'd easily be a top 3 team once again. i see it from both sides mang mang[/quote]
ok, and if we arent in there some other team will be top 3 im. top 3 does not mean "too good for the division"
ukmok, and if we arent in there some other team will be top 3 im. top 3 does not mean "too good for the division"
dude ive already stated i get why you guys dont wanna do invite, but your argument is bad. if you placed top 3 last season, this season you should place top 3 or better. top 3 is the top of the division obviously, so just sitting in IM to remain in top 3 or better seems silly, yadig?
[quote=ukm]ok, and if we arent in there some other team will be top 3 im. top 3 does not mean "too good for the division"[/quote]
dude ive already stated i get why you guys dont wanna do invite, but your argument is bad. if you placed top 3 last season, this season you should place top 3 or better. top 3 is the top of the division obviously, so just sitting in IM to remain in top 3 or better seems silly, yadig?
in what way does it seem silly?
how is it more useful for us to place 7th in invite and provide a challenge to nobody?
in what way does it seem silly?
how is it more useful for us to place 7th in invite and provide a challenge to nobody?
Marmaduke I talked to the leader of your top 3 IM team right before I made this thread and found out that you are also declining the Invite spot. Just sayin.
Marmaduke I talked to the leader of your top 3 IM team right before I made this thread and found out that you are also declining the Invite spot. Just sayin.
see thats where it gets tough (and why i understand your side)...for the IM division it's best you move up if voted in b/c that makes room for a new top 3 team as you previously mentioned. it also gives invite the strongest new team IM can provide. however its possible you would have a losing record/not make lan/finish 7th, so that would suck dicks for you guys. that being said, needs of the many > needs of the few :<
doggles, you mean a team with 1 player who's been invite before, and several players who have played a grand total of 4 matches outside of open (rip hrg) don't think they're ready for invite?! BLASPHEMY.
edit: and calling us top 3 is speculation, not fact ;)
see thats where it gets tough (and why i understand your side)...for the IM division it's best you move up if voted in b/c that makes room for a new top 3 team as you previously mentioned. it also gives invite the strongest new team IM can provide. however its possible you would have a losing record/not make lan/finish 7th, so that would suck dicks for you guys. that being said, needs of the many > needs of the few :<
doggles, you mean a team with 1 player who's been invite before, and several players who have played a grand total of 4 matches outside of open (rip hrg) don't think they're ready for invite?! BLASPHEMY.
edit: and calling us top 3 is speculation, not fact ;)
it's ok doggles blight xensity is in invite so you won't be 0 - 16
it's ok doggles blight xensity is in invite so you won't be 0 - 16
if we move up it makes room for a new 8th place im team not a new top 3 team
what "needs of the many" are served by this
if we move up it makes room for a new 8th place im team not a new top 3 team
what "needs of the many" are served by this
botmodeit's ok doggles blight xensity is in invite so you won't be 0 - 16
they're better than us tho
[quote=botmode]it's ok doggles blight xensity is in invite so you won't be 0 - 16[/quote]
they're better than us tho
welp... looks like vectors gonna make invite. Who will be the 8th slot then?
welp... looks like vectors gonna make invite. Who will be the 8th slot then?
hopefully they don't complain about the other team using invite ringers
hopefully they don't complain about the other team using invite ringers
dogglesMarmaduke I talked to the leader of your top 3 IM team right before I made this thread and found out that you are also declining the Invite spot. Just sayin.
lol not to bash my team or anything but we are not a top 3 IM team yet. we have lost to alot of other good IM teams in scrims lately so we are clearly not ready for this level of play at the moment.
[quote=doggles]Marmaduke I talked to the leader of your top 3 IM team right before I made this thread and found out that you are also declining the Invite spot. Just sayin.[/quote]
lol not to bash my team or anything but we are not a top 3 IM team [B]yet[/B]. we have lost to alot of other good IM teams in scrims lately so we are clearly not ready for this level of play at the moment.
doggles, u have decimate on ur team
with great power comes great responsibility.
B========D~E~C~I~M~A~T~E~D~~~~
doggles, u have decimate on ur team
with great power comes great responsibility.
B========D~E~C~I~M~A~T~E~D~~~~
this honestly sounds like just a problem with dtp's emotional maturity, although I can understand their reasoning. I guess some people can handle losing matches and still enjoy themselves or not getting upset, but I think the majority of people can't.
this honestly sounds like just a problem with dtp's emotional maturity, although I can understand their reasoning. I guess some people can handle losing matches and still enjoy themselves or not getting upset, but I think the majority of people can't.
Doggles, PLEASE.
You are CLEARLY the better choice for invite. If you want take it, and then fucking split up and join the next powerhouse IM team s. 14. IDC. But if you think we should auto vote up another team and let you guys rape IM, well you are pretty fucking crazy. As a player who is going into IM for the first time next season, I want to play in a division in which there is not some team that is only hanging out in IM because they are on some invisible boycott of invite, mostly because you'll think you are better then that.
Doggles, PLEASE.
You are CLEARLY the better choice for invite. If you want take it, and then fucking split up and join the next powerhouse IM team s. 14. IDC. But if you think we should auto vote up another team and let you guys rape IM, well you are pretty fucking crazy. As a player who is going into IM for the first time next season, I want to play in a division in which there is not some team that is only hanging out in IM because they are on some invisible boycott of invite, mostly because you'll think you are better then that.
BurnDLDoggles, PLEASE.
You are CLEARLY the better choice for invite. If you want take it, and then fucking split up and join the next powerhouse IM team s. 14. IDC. But if you think we should auto vote up another team and let you guys rape IM, well you are pretty fucking crazy. As a player who is going into IM for the first time next season, I want to play in a division in which there is not some team that is only hanging out in IM because they are on some invisible boycott of invite, mostly because you'll think you are better then that.
Vector already won.
[quote=BurnDL]Doggles, PLEASE.
You are CLEARLY the better choice for invite. If you want take it, and then fucking split up and join the next powerhouse IM team s. 14. IDC. But if you think we should auto vote up another team and let you guys rape IM, well you are pretty fucking crazy. As a player who is going into IM for the first time next season, I want to play in a division in which there is not some team that is only hanging out in IM because they are on some invisible boycott of invite, mostly because you'll think you are better then that.[/quote]
Vector already won.
thorn_BurnDLDoggles, PLEASE.
You are CLEARLY the better choice for invite. If you want take it, and then fucking split up and join the next powerhouse IM team s. 14. IDC. But if you think we should auto vote up another team and let you guys rape IM, well you are pretty fucking crazy. As a player who is going into IM for the first time next season, I want to play in a division in which there is not some team that is only hanging out in IM because they are on some invisible boycott of invite, mostly because you'll think you are better then that.
Vector already won.
Im doing a post-win rant
[quote=thorn_][quote=BurnDL]Doggles, PLEASE.
You are CLEARLY the better choice for invite. If you want take it, and then fucking split up and join the next powerhouse IM team s. 14. IDC. But if you think we should auto vote up another team and let you guys rape IM, well you are pretty fucking crazy. As a player who is going into IM for the first time next season, I want to play in a division in which there is not some team that is only hanging out in IM because they are on some invisible boycott of invite, mostly because you'll think you are better then that.[/quote]
Vector already won.[/quote]
Im doing a post-win rant
thorn cheats, it's pretty obvious if you've ever watched his pov
thorn cheats, it's pretty obvious if you've ever watched his pov
=\ After hearing what tagg said when he was on Chess, I feel like if the lower end teams want to practice more, they should just nag the top 3 or 4 teams to scrim, yeah it might be annoyed to the top 3/4 but if you really want to improve, might as well do something about it.
=\ After hearing what tagg said when he was on Chess, I feel like if the lower end teams want to practice more, they should just nag the top 3 or 4 teams to scrim, yeah it might be annoyed to the top 3/4 but if you really want to improve, might as well do something about it.