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one of my colleagues was arrested for isis
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http://heavy.com/news/2015/05/asher-abid-khan-isis-spring-texas-isis-isil-syria-terrorist-terrorism-charges-family-mother-health-indictment-documents-photo/
something nursey said reminded me of this and i wanted people to know about this. this was a guy i knew in high school and he was recently arrested after returning to america.
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http://heavy.com/news/2015/05/asher-abid-khan-isis-spring-texas-isis-isil-syria-terrorist-terrorism-charges-family-mother-health-indictment-documents-photo/
something nursey said reminded me of this and i wanted people to know about this. this was a guy i knew in high school and he was recently arrested after returning to america.
discuss
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"colleagues"

"colleagues"
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like he actually joined right? He just went to Turkey and came back before he met up with anyone?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like he actually joined right? He just went to Turkey and came back before he met up with anyone?
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Mr_Harvard"colleagues"

i didnt have a lot of space for a title and he wasnt a classmate anymore.

MapleCorrect me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like he actually joined right? He just went to Turkey and came back before he met up with anyone?

he didnt specifically join, but its easy to see that he would have had they not gotten him to come back. whatever he did was enough to warrant arrest and potentially a big sentence

[quote=Mr_Harvard]"colleagues"[/quote]
i didnt have a lot of space for a title and he wasnt a classmate anymore.
[quote=Maple]Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like he actually joined right? He just went to Turkey and came back before he met up with anyone?[/quote]
he didnt specifically join, but its easy to see that he would have had they not gotten him to come back. whatever he did was enough to warrant arrest and potentially a big sentence
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أهز رأسي

أهز رأسي
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One less ISIS member on the loose is alright by me. This guy made his choices and now has to face the consequences.

One less ISIS member on the loose is alright by me. This guy made his choices and now has to face the consequences.
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THEBILLDOZERhe didnt specifically join, but its easy to see that he would have had they not gotten him to come back. whatever he did was enough to warrant arrest and potentially a big sentence

One of my good friends in college was the youngest of three brothers. The middle brother was a med student in Southern California before he dropped out and decided he wanted to join Hamas. He flew to Pakistan because that's allegedly where his hookup was, and when he got there presumably he realized that Hamas isn't based in Pakistan and also doesn't actually want foreigners joining. He tried to come back to America but he was put on a no-fly list and had to stay in Southeast Asia for a year or so. Eventually he got back to America, was placed under house arrest, and is currently waiting trial I think.
The oldest of the brothers is a successful American diplomat, and the youngest brother (my friend) is either going to join the military or follow his oldest brother into the US Foreign Service.

This isn't some sort of isolated incident either, there's been a number of cases where Americans from thoroughly secular backgrounds and good education decide to hop on a plane to join some sort of foreign group. It's tricky to deal with them after they return. On the one hand, I'm completely sympathetic to "lock em up and throw away the key" approach, particularly in light of the video BBC got its hands on and the other innumerable atrocities. On the other hand, it looks really, really good for the US (and UK, this happens there too) when those fuckers decide to come back because they realized that ISIS is fucking insane. If you can successfully reintegrate those individuals into society, you're not going to find a better spokesperson to prevent people from trying that shit in the future. Plus if they throw the book at someone who decides to come back, it might dissuade someone from returning to the US if they already left to join ISIS but began having second thoughts. It's a tricky path to navigate and I'll watch these proceedings with interest.

[quote=THEBILLDOZER]
he didnt specifically join, but its easy to see that he would have had they not gotten him to come back. whatever he did was enough to warrant arrest and potentially a big sentence[/quote]

One of my good friends in college was the youngest of three brothers. The middle brother was a med student in Southern California before he dropped out and decided he wanted to join Hamas. He flew to Pakistan because that's allegedly where his hookup was, and when he got there presumably he realized that Hamas isn't based in Pakistan and also doesn't actually want foreigners joining. He tried to come back to America but he was put on a no-fly list and had to stay in Southeast Asia for a year or so. Eventually he got back to America, was placed under house arrest, and is currently waiting trial I think.
The oldest of the brothers is a successful American diplomat, and the youngest brother (my friend) is either going to join the military or follow his oldest brother into the US Foreign Service.

This isn't some sort of isolated incident either, there's been a number of cases where Americans from thoroughly secular backgrounds and good education decide to hop on a plane to join some sort of foreign group. It's tricky to deal with them after they return. On the one hand, I'm completely sympathetic to "lock em up and throw away the key" approach, particularly in light of the video BBC got its hands on and the other innumerable atrocities. On the other hand, it looks really, really good for the US (and UK, this happens there too) when those fuckers decide to come back because they realized that ISIS is fucking insane. If you can successfully reintegrate those individuals into society, you're not going to find a better spokesperson to prevent people from trying that shit in the future. Plus if they throw the book at someone who decides to come back, it might dissuade someone from returning to the US if they already left to join ISIS but began having second thoughts. It's a tricky path to navigate and I'll watch these proceedings with interest.
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if it were up to me he'd be shot as soon as he touches back down on american soil. islam is a fucking disease

if it were up to me he'd be shot as soon as he touches back down on american soil. islam is a fucking disease
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yaugif it were up to me he'd be shot as soon as he touches back down on american soil. islam is a fucking disease

oh boy

[quote=yaug]if it were up to me he'd be shot as soon as he touches back down on american soil. islam is a fucking disease[/quote]
oh boy
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yaugislam is a fucking disease

Islam has nothing to do with anyone who is part of a terrorist organization. The Islam is just as bad/good as Christianity or any other religion.

[quote=yaug]islam is a fucking disease[/quote]
Islam has nothing to do with anyone who is part of a terrorist organization. The Islam is just as bad/good as Christianity or any other religion.
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yaugif it were up to me he'd be shot as soon as he touches back down on american soil. islam is a fucking disease

idiot

[quote=yaug]if it were up to me he'd be shot as soon as he touches back down on american soil. islam is a fucking disease[/quote]

idiot
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http://i.imgur.com/0Rponn3.jpg

[img]http://i.imgur.com/0Rponn3.jpg[/img]
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one of the employees at this halal gyro place i used to go to a decent amount joined isis lol

http://www.ibtimes.com/nyc-isis-plot-brooklyns-uzbek-muslim-enclave-shocked-proposed-violence-1829970

one of the employees at this halal gyro place i used to go to a decent amount joined isis lol

http://www.ibtimes.com/nyc-isis-plot-brooklyns-uzbek-muslim-enclave-shocked-proposed-violence-1829970
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Dr_Heinzyaugislam is a fucking diseaseIslam has nothing to do with anyone who is part of a terrorist organization. The Islam is just as bad/good as Christianity or any other religion.

that's why the majority of the world's terrorist organizations are islamic, stfu, Europe is getting flooded with them right now. have fun with that.

Where the Muslims are not happy:

They're not happy in Gaza.
They're not happy in Egypt.
They're not happy in Libya.
They're not happy in Morocco.
They're not happy in Iran.
They're not happy in Iraq.
They're not happy in Yemen.
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria.
They're not happy in Lebanon.
They're not happy in Indonesia.

So, where are they happy?

They're happy in Australia.
They're happy in England.
They're happy in France.
They're happy in Italy.
They're happy in Germany.
They're happy in Sweden.
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in Norway.

They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!

And who do they blame [for their unhappiness]?

Not Islam...not their leadership...not themselves... They blame the countries in which they are HAPPY! And they want to change the countries in which they're happy, to be like the countries they came from, where they were unhappy.

Try to find logic in that.

[quote=Dr_Heinz][quote=yaug]islam is a fucking disease[/quote]
Islam has nothing to do with anyone who is part of a terrorist organization. The Islam is just as bad/good as Christianity or any other religion.[/quote]

that's why the majority of the world's terrorist organizations are islamic, stfu, Europe is getting flooded with them right now. have fun with that.

Where the Muslims are not happy:

They're not happy in Gaza.
They're not happy in Egypt.
They're not happy in Libya.
They're not happy in Morocco.
They're not happy in Iran.
They're not happy in Iraq.
They're not happy in Yemen.
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria.
They're not happy in Lebanon.
They're not happy in Indonesia.

So, where are they happy?

They're happy in Australia.
They're happy in England.
They're happy in France.
They're happy in Italy.
They're happy in Germany.
They're happy in Sweden.
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in Norway.

They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!

And who do they blame [for their unhappiness]?

Not Islam...not their leadership...not themselves... They blame the countries in which they are HAPPY! And they want to change the countries in which they're happy, to be like the countries they came from, where they were unhappy.

Try to find logic in that.
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please i didnt want this

please i didnt want this
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ROFL you're not even trolling yaug you're just an ignorant racist, fantastic

perhaps the problem is in the ridiculous generalisations you're making

ROFL you're not even trolling yaug you're just an ignorant racist, fantastic

perhaps the problem is in the ridiculous generalisations you're making
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SideshowROFL you're not even trolling yaug you're just an ignorant racist, fantastic

perhaps the problem is in the ridiculous generalisations you're making

Thanks for your valuable contributions to this discussion. You still have yet to say precisely why and how he is wrong.

[quote=Sideshow]ROFL you're not even trolling yaug you're just an ignorant racist, fantastic

perhaps the problem is in the ridiculous generalisations you're making[/quote]

Thanks for your valuable contributions to this discussion. You still have yet to say precisely why and how he is wrong.
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Seen this copypasta already yaug.

Seen this copypasta already yaug.
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i dont care, it NEEDS to be seen

i dont care, it NEEDS to be seen
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ヽ(*≧ω≦)ノ yaug (´・ω・`) is posting 。・゚゚・(>д<)・゚゚・。

ヽ(*≧ω≦)ノ yaug (´・ω・`) is posting 。・゚゚・(>д<)・゚゚・。
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The FBI learned about Khan in August 2014 while investigating a friend of his. After getting a warrant to search the friend’s Facebook messages, they found he had been talking with his friend and others about traveling to Syria, joining ISIS and recruiting others to join him.

BILLDOZER WHAT ARE YOU NOT TELLING US

[quote]The FBI learned about Khan in August 2014 while investigating a friend of his. After getting a warrant to search the friend’s Facebook messages, they found he had been talking with his friend and others about traveling to Syria, joining ISIS and recruiting others to join him.[/quote]

BILLDOZER WHAT ARE YOU NOT TELLING US
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yaugDr_Heinzyaugislam is a fucking diseaseIslam has nothing to do with anyone who is part of a terrorist organization. The Islam is just as bad/good as Christianity or any other religion.
that's why the majority of the world's terrorist organizations are islamic, stfu, Europe is getting flooded with them right now. have fun with that.

Where the Muslims are not happy:

They're not happy in Gaza.
They're not happy in Egypt.
They're not happy in Libya.
They're not happy in Morocco.
They're not happy in Iran.
They're not happy in Iraq.
They're not happy in Yemen.
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria.
They're not happy in Lebanon.
They're not happy in Indonesia.

So, where are they happy?

They're happy in Australia.
They're happy in England.
They're happy in France.
They're happy in Italy.
They're happy in Germany.
They're happy in Sweden.
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in Norway.

They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!

And who do they blame [for their unhappiness]?

Not Islam...not their leadership...not themselves... They blame the countries in which they are HAPPY! And they want to change the countries in which they're happy, to be like the countries they came from, where they were unhappy.

Try to find logic in that.

What a disgraceful human being you are. You should be ashamed of yourself, how ignorant and racist can anyone be is beyond me... ?

I am an atheist but i believe that everyone is and should be allowed to have their own beliefs. Like Dr Heinz said extremely well, Islam, and muslims in general have absolutely nothing to do with ISIS and all the terrorist acts we have been having all over the world. Looking back in history, anyone could argue that Christianity was just as bad, if not worse than Islam.

Live and let live, we are in 2015 for fuck sake. The world would be a much better place if opinions like yours were kept inside.

SideshowROFL you're not even trolling yaug you're just an ignorant racist, fantastic

perhaps the problem is in the ridiculous generalisations you're making

I already liked you from i52 but now i have even more respect for you.

[quote=yaug][quote=Dr_Heinz][quote=yaug]islam is a fucking disease[/quote]
Islam has nothing to do with anyone who is part of a terrorist organization. The Islam is just as bad/good as Christianity or any other religion.[/quote]

that's why the majority of the world's terrorist organizations are islamic, stfu, Europe is getting flooded with them right now. have fun with that.

Where the Muslims are not happy:

They're not happy in Gaza.
They're not happy in Egypt.
They're not happy in Libya.
They're not happy in Morocco.
They're not happy in Iran.
They're not happy in Iraq.
They're not happy in Yemen.
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria.
They're not happy in Lebanon.
They're not happy in Indonesia.

So, where are they happy?

They're happy in Australia.
They're happy in England.
They're happy in France.
They're happy in Italy.
They're happy in Germany.
They're happy in Sweden.
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in Norway.

They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!

And who do they blame [for their unhappiness]?

Not Islam...not their leadership...not themselves... They blame the countries in which they are HAPPY! And they want to change the countries in which they're happy, to be like the countries they came from, where they were unhappy.

Try to find logic in that.[/quote]

What a disgraceful human being you are. You should be ashamed of yourself, how ignorant and racist can anyone be is beyond me... ?

I am an atheist but i believe that everyone is and should be allowed to have their own beliefs. Like Dr Heinz said extremely well, Islam, and muslims in general have absolutely nothing to do with ISIS and all the terrorist acts we have been having all over the world. Looking back in history, anyone could argue that Christianity was just as bad, if not worse than Islam.

Live and let live, we are in 2015 for fuck sake. The world would be a much better place if opinions like yours were kept inside.

[quote=Sideshow]ROFL you're not even trolling yaug you're just an ignorant racist, fantastic

perhaps the problem is in the ridiculous generalisations you're making[/quote]

I already liked you from i52 but now i have even more respect for you.
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sideshow's opinions are biased hes a delightful little arab...

sideshow's opinions are biased hes a delightful little arab...
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MasterKuniSideshowROFL you're not even trolling yaug you're just an ignorant racist, fantastic

perhaps the problem is in the ridiculous generalisations you're making

Thanks for your valuable contributions to this discussion. You still have yet to say precisely why and how he is wrong.

i think its pretty fuckin clear why hes wrong

[quote=MasterKuni][quote=Sideshow]ROFL you're not even trolling yaug you're just an ignorant racist, fantastic

perhaps the problem is in the ridiculous generalisations you're making[/quote]

Thanks for your valuable contributions to this discussion. You still have yet to say precisely why and how he is wrong.[/quote]
i think its pretty fuckin clear why hes wrong
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man yaug is posting day 1 stormfront bait and just reeling in the replies

man yaug is posting day 1 stormfront bait and just reeling in the replies
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jimmies = rustled

jimmies = rustled
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Following yaug's logic Catholics were not happy in Ireland cause IRA?

Following yaug's logic Catholics were not happy in Ireland cause IRA?
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audiehttp://i.imgur.com/0Rponn3.jpg

why a fuckin crocodile tho

[quote=audie][img]http://i.imgur.com/0Rponn3.jpg[/img][/quote]

why a fuckin crocodile tho
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