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1651
#1651
-5 Frags +

http://www.ugcleague.net/forum/showthread.php?38641-UGC-Platinum-Heavy-quot-Kresnik-quot-Blatantly-Aimbotting
KRESNIK HACKING NOW?!!!!

http://www.ugcleague.net/forum/showthread.php?38641-UGC-Platinum-Heavy-quot-Kresnik-quot-Blatantly-Aimbotting
KRESNIK HACKING NOW?!!!!
1652
#1652
2 Frags +

how could you robert

how could you robert
1653
#1653
4 Frags +

somehow i doubt it

somehow i doubt it
1654
#1654
3 Frags +
wattersonsomehow i doubt it

when has axio ever been wrong tho

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[quote=watterson]somehow i doubt it[/quote]

when has axio ever been wrong tho[spoiler]

[img]http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/iwbtb/images/8/81/Kappa.png/revision/latest?cb=20121221193846[/img][/spoiler]
1655
#1655
6 Frags +

since everyone likes to shit on people, can we ignore who posted it and discuss the video itself? I will say, the video looks pretty fishy on the part where he snaps to axio 100% accurately. Though, feel free to prove me wrong, I'm not exactly experienced when it comes to AC stuff.

since everyone likes to shit on people, can we ignore who posted it and discuss the video itself? I will say, the video looks pretty fishy on the part where he snaps to axio 100% accurately. Though, feel free to prove me wrong, I'm not exactly experienced when it comes to AC stuff.
1656
#1656
-2 Frags +
rickjameshttp://www.ugcleague.net/forum/showthread.php?38641-UGC-Platinum-Heavy-quot-Kresnik-quot-Blatantly-Aimbotting
KRESNIK HACKING NOW?!!!!

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/x/image/1396/89/1396895445421.jpg

[quote=rickjames]http://www.ugcleague.net/forum/showthread.php?38641-UGC-Platinum-Heavy-quot-Kresnik-quot-Blatantly-Aimbotting
KRESNIK HACKING NOW?!!!![/quote]

[img]https://img.4plebs.org/boards/x/image/1396/89/1396895445421.jpg[/img]
1657
#1657
-2 Frags +
xosince everyone likes to shit on people, can we ignore who posted it and discuss the video itself? I will say, the video looks pretty fishy on the part where he snaps to axio 100% accurately. Though, feel free to prove me wrong, I'm not exactly experienced when it comes to AC stuff.

I don't know why people always got to callout who made the video instead of paying attention to it lol

[quote=xo]since everyone likes to shit on people, can we ignore who posted it and discuss the video itself? I will say, the video looks pretty fishy on the part where he snaps to axio 100% accurately. Though, feel free to prove me wrong, I'm not exactly experienced when it comes to AC stuff.[/quote]
I don't know why people always got to callout who made the video instead of paying attention to it lol
1658
#1658
16 Frags +
xosince everyone likes to shit on people, can we ignore who posted it and discuss the video itself? I will say, the video looks pretty fishy on the part where he snaps to axio 100% accurately. Though, feel free to prove me wrong, I'm not exactly experienced when it comes to AC stuff.

He saw axio lower right before he started shooting at banny. Axio wears some bright unusuals.

And our spy was right above axio and called axio there.

[quote=xo]since everyone likes to shit on people, can we ignore who posted it and discuss the video itself? I will say, the video looks pretty fishy on the part where he snaps to axio 100% accurately. Though, feel free to prove me wrong, I'm not exactly experienced when it comes to AC stuff.[/quote]

He saw axio lower right before he started shooting at banny. Axio wears some bright unusuals.

And our spy was right above axio and called axio there.
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#1659
-3 Frags +
xosince everyone likes to shit on people, can we ignore who posted it and discuss the video itself? I will say, the video looks pretty fishy on the part where he snaps to axio 100% accurately. Though, feel free to prove me wrong, I'm not exactly experienced when it comes to AC stuff.

as ender said, callouts + muscle memory and general map knowledge. you can p easily build muscle memory for certain distance snaps if you dont use accel (or if you use a very consistent accel), thats how snipers hit flick shots.

[quote=xo]since everyone likes to shit on people, can we ignore who posted it and discuss the video itself? I will say, the video looks pretty fishy on the part where he snaps to axio 100% accurately. Though, feel free to prove me wrong, I'm not exactly experienced when it comes to AC stuff.[/quote]

as ender said, callouts + muscle memory and general map knowledge. you can p easily build muscle memory for certain distance snaps if you dont use accel (or if you use a very consistent accel), thats how snipers hit flick shots.
1660
#1660
12 Frags +

Also ffs Kresnik missed everything on the soldier who jumped behind us on the midfight. You can see the healthbar remain the same.

Also ffs Kresnik missed everything on the soldier who jumped behind us on the midfight. You can see the healthbar remain the same.
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#1661
5 Frags +

I actually keep forgetting that mumble callouts are a thing, my bad.

I actually keep forgetting that mumble callouts are a thing, my bad.
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#1662
-26 Frags +

Or he could just be using some aimbot to help his snaps. That muscle memory is 100% accurate every time? Rondego used MUSCLE MEMORY he is banned now... My advice is get the connections bo4r has so you can just pay off the AC team and hack all you want :D

Or he could just be using some aimbot to help his snaps. That muscle memory is 100% accurate every time? Rondego used MUSCLE MEMORY he is banned now... My advice is get the connections bo4r has so you can just pay off the AC team and hack all you want :D
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#1663
14 Frags +
rickjamesOr he could just be using some aimbot to help his snaps. That muscle memory is 100% accurate every time? Rondego used MUSCLE MEMORY he is banned now... My advice is get the connections bo4r has so you can just pay off the AC team and hack all you want :D

Rick I think its time to take a break

[quote=rickjames]Or he could just be using some aimbot to help his snaps. That muscle memory is 100% accurate every time? Rondego used MUSCLE MEMORY he is banned now... My advice is get the connections bo4r has so you can just pay off the AC team and hack all you want :D[/quote]

Rick I think its time to take a break
1664
#1664
18 Frags +

Ok now I'm convinced this man is ironically shitposting you can't possibly be real.

I'm sorry to everyone when I tried to support this tard in his "investigations". I have failed not only the community but thousands of years of neurological evolution.

Ok now I'm convinced this man is ironically shitposting you can't possibly be real.

I'm sorry to everyone when I tried to support this tard in his "investigations". I have failed not only the community but thousands of years of neurological evolution.
1665
#1665
2 Frags +
rickjamesOr he could just be using some aimbot to help his snaps. That muscle memory is 100% accurate every time? Rondego used MUSCLE MEMORY he is banned now... My advice is get the connections bo4r has so you can just pay off the AC team and hack all you want :D

seriously, stop.

[quote=rickjames]Or he could just be using some aimbot to help his snaps. That muscle memory is 100% accurate every time? Rondego used MUSCLE MEMORY he is banned now... My advice is get the connections bo4r has so you can just pay off the AC team and hack all you want :D[/quote]

seriously, stop.
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#1666
1 Frags +
AvastOk now I'm convinced this man is ironically shitposting you can't possibly be real.

I'm sorry to everyone when I tried to support this tard in his "investigations". I have failed not only the community but thousands of years of neurological evolution.

Thank you, you have been forgiven

[quote=Avast]Ok now I'm convinced this man is ironically shitposting you can't possibly be real.

I'm sorry to everyone when I tried to support this tard in his "investigations". I have failed not only the community but thousands of years of neurological evolution.[/quote]
Thank you, you have been forgiven
1667
#1667
9 Frags +

Also in addition I'm lucky enough to never had to talk to Axio but is he actually this big of a basement dweller or does he just have a forum neckbeard?

Also in addition I'm lucky enough to never had to talk to Axio but is he actually this big of a basement dweller or does he just have a forum neckbeard?
1668
#1668
1 Frags +
AvastAlso in addition I'm lucky enough to never had to talk to Axio but is he actually this big of a basement dweller or does he just have a forum neckbeard?

axio is actually a fairly normal human being, he has a bit of a temper. he's all an act for the most part

[quote=Avast]Also in addition I'm lucky enough to never had to talk to Axio but is he actually this big of a basement dweller or does he just have a forum neckbeard?[/quote]

axio is actually a fairly normal human being, he has a bit of a temper. he's all an act for the most part
1669
#1669
5 Frags +
rickjamesxosince everyone likes to shit on people, can we ignore who posted it and discuss the video itself? I will say, the video looks pretty fishy on the part where he snaps to axio 100% accurately. Though, feel free to prove me wrong, I'm not exactly experienced when it comes to AC stuff.I don't know why people always got to callout who made the video instead of paying attention to it lol

Here's what i observed from the video: He misses everything on a soldier jumping behind at the beginning, does a bit of damage non-suspiciously to the pyro left of rock, and then as jarrett gets more aggressive on the enemy combo(jarrett comms a lot on this team so its likely that he called his aggression on cliffside) so kresnik switches focus to the demo ignoring the less important pyro kill.

In the second clip notice that axio is taking damage from two different sources: the heavy and the spy. The spy does considerably more damage because he's closer and hitting every shot. The only thing you could say was suspicious about it was his initial flick, but outside of that you see subtle mouse movements that indicate natural aim. If he were using an aimbot as heavy he would've been centered on axio's chest the entire time. The only way this could be an aimbot is if he toggled it to flick and then immediately untoggled which makes no fucking sense at all.

Not sure why i spent time debunking this as it is an axio video but there's my 2 cents

[quote=rickjames][quote=xo]since everyone likes to shit on people, can we ignore who posted it and discuss the video itself? I will say, the video looks pretty fishy on the part where he snaps to axio 100% accurately. Though, feel free to prove me wrong, I'm not exactly experienced when it comes to AC stuff.[/quote]
I don't know why people always got to callout who made the video instead of paying attention to it lol[/quote]

Here's what i observed from the video: He misses everything on a soldier jumping behind at the beginning, does a bit of damage non-suspiciously to the pyro left of rock, and then as jarrett gets more aggressive on the enemy combo(jarrett comms a lot on this team so its likely that he called his aggression on cliffside) so kresnik switches focus to the demo ignoring the less important pyro kill.

In the second clip notice that axio is taking damage from two different sources: the heavy and the spy. The spy does considerably more damage because he's closer and hitting every shot. The only thing you could say was suspicious about it was his initial flick, but outside of that you see subtle mouse movements that indicate natural aim. If he were using an aimbot as heavy he would've been centered on axio's chest the entire time. The only way this could be an aimbot is if he toggled it to flick and then immediately untoggled which makes no fucking sense at all.

Not sure why i spent time debunking this as it is an axio video but there's my 2 cents
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#1670
17 Frags +
Air_AvastAlso in addition I'm lucky enough to never had to talk to Axio but is he actually this big of a basement dweller or does he just have a forum neckbeard?
axio is actually a fairly normal human being, he has a bit of a temper. he's all an act for the most part

do fairly normal human beings stop going to high school for weeks on end due to social anxiety? and only come back when their parents buy them a $3000 computer as a bribe?

[quote=Air_][quote=Avast]Also in addition I'm lucky enough to never had to talk to Axio but is he actually this big of a basement dweller or does he just have a forum neckbeard?[/quote]

axio is actually a fairly normal human being, he has a bit of a temper. he's all an act for the most part[/quote]

do fairly normal human beings stop going to high school for weeks on end due to social anxiety? and only come back when their parents buy them a $3000 computer as a bribe?
1671
#1671
13 Frags +
mustardoverlordAir_AvastAlso in addition I'm lucky enough to never had to talk to Axio but is he actually this big of a basement dweller or does he just have a forum neckbeard?
axio is actually a fairly normal human being, he has a bit of a temper. he's all an act for the most part

do fairly normal human beings stop going to high school for weeks on end due to social anxiety? and only come back when their parents buy them a $3000 computer as a bribe?

is that true lol

[quote=mustardoverlord][quote=Air_][quote=Avast]Also in addition I'm lucky enough to never had to talk to Axio but is he actually this big of a basement dweller or does he just have a forum neckbeard?[/quote]

axio is actually a fairly normal human being, he has a bit of a temper. he's all an act for the most part[/quote]

do fairly normal human beings stop going to high school for weeks on end due to social anxiety? and only come back when their parents buy them a $3000 computer as a bribe?[/quote]
is that true lol
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#1672
6 Frags +
mustardoverlordAir_AvastAlso in addition I'm lucky enough to never had to talk to Axio but is he actually this big of a basement dweller or does he just have a forum neckbeard?
axio is actually a fairly normal human being, he has a bit of a temper. he's all an act for the most part

do fairly normal human beings stop going to high school for weeks on end due to social anxiety? and only come back when their parents buy them a $3000 computer as a bribe?

i didn't say he wasn't a bitch

[quote=mustardoverlord][quote=Air_][quote=Avast]Also in addition I'm lucky enough to never had to talk to Axio but is he actually this big of a basement dweller or does he just have a forum neckbeard?[/quote]

axio is actually a fairly normal human being, he has a bit of a temper. he's all an act for the most part[/quote]

do fairly normal human beings stop going to high school for weeks on end due to social anxiety? and only come back when their parents buy them a $3000 computer as a bribe?[/quote]
i didn't say he wasn't a bitch
1673
#1673
1 Frags +
classicrickjamesxosince everyone likes to shit on people, can we ignore who posted it and discuss the video itself? I will say, the video looks pretty fishy on the part where he snaps to axio 100% accurately. Though, feel free to prove me wrong, I'm not exactly experienced when it comes to AC stuff.I don't know why people always got to callout who made the video instead of paying attention to it lol
Here's what i observed from the video: He misses everything on a soldier jumping behind at the beginning, does a bit of damage non-suspiciously to the pyro left of rock, and then as jarrett gets more aggressive on the enemy combo(jarrett comms a lot on this team so its likely that he called his aggression on cliffside) so kresnik switches focus to the demo ignoring the less important pyro kill.

In the second clip notice that axio is taking damage from two different sources: the heavy and the spy. The spy does considerably more damage because he's closer and hitting every shot. The only thing you could say was suspicious about it was his initial flick, but outside of that you see subtle mouse movements that indicate natural aim. If he were using an aimbot as heavy he would've been centered on axio's chest the entire time. The only way this could be an aimbot is if he toggled it to flick and then immediately untoggled which makes no fucking sense at all.

Not sure why i spent time debunking this as it is an axio video but there's my 2 cents

Keep in mind that Nospread hacking is no longer a thing when looking at videos from an AC mindset.
Meaning, weapons with bulletspread WILL miss with aimbot.

Axio isn't accusing the guy of not missing his shots, he's accusing him for locking onto him when he was outside of pov with a fairly quick "aim snap"

[quote=classic][quote=rickjames][quote=xo]since everyone likes to shit on people, can we ignore who posted it and discuss the video itself? I will say, the video looks pretty fishy on the part where he snaps to axio 100% accurately. Though, feel free to prove me wrong, I'm not exactly experienced when it comes to AC stuff.[/quote]
I don't know why people always got to callout who made the video instead of paying attention to it lol[/quote]

Here's what i observed from the video: He misses everything on a soldier jumping behind at the beginning, does a bit of damage non-suspiciously to the pyro left of rock, and then as jarrett gets more aggressive on the enemy combo(jarrett comms a lot on this team so its likely that he called his aggression on cliffside) so kresnik switches focus to the demo ignoring the less important pyro kill.

In the second clip notice that axio is taking damage from two different sources: the heavy and the spy. The spy does considerably more damage because he's closer and hitting every shot. The only thing you could say was suspicious about it was his initial flick, but outside of that you see subtle mouse movements that indicate natural aim. If he were using an aimbot as heavy he would've been centered on axio's chest the entire time. The only way this could be an aimbot is if he toggled it to flick and then immediately untoggled which makes no fucking sense at all.

Not sure why i spent time debunking this as it is an axio video but there's my 2 cents[/quote]

Keep in mind that Nospread hacking is no longer a thing when looking at videos from an AC mindset.
Meaning, weapons with bulletspread WILL miss with aimbot.

Axio isn't accusing the guy of not missing his shots, he's accusing him for locking onto him when he was outside of pov with a fairly quick "aim snap"
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#1674
5 Frags +

First clip was clearly not hacking.

Second clip he locked onto him one time in an entire match (people can also get lucky, didn't even have to be 'muscle memory'), and only showed 2 seconds of context. zzzzzzzzzz

First clip was clearly not hacking.

Second clip he locked onto him one time in an entire match (people can also get lucky, didn't even have to be 'muscle memory'), and only showed 2 seconds of context. zzzzzzzzzz
1675
#1675
8 Frags +

https://youtu.be/XWSSqVYmbwE?t=4m14s

https://youtu.be/XWSSqVYmbwE?t=4m14s
1676
#1676
1 Frags +
DoctorMiggyAxio isn't accusing the guy of not missing his shots, he's accusing him for locking onto him when he was outside of pov with a fairly quick "aim snap"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsQmxbXzhqs

fairly quick aim snaps all over in that video. so its in the realm of possibility since its possible to aim like that and people do aim like that. so I would say just give kresnik the benefit of the doubt :)

sorry to post non tf2 related content but it just reminded me of a situation where people accused that player of cheating because of "aim snaps".

[quote=DoctorMiggy]
Axio isn't accusing the guy of not missing his shots, he's accusing him for locking onto him when he was outside of pov with a fairly quick "aim snap"[/quote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsQmxbXzhqs

fairly quick aim snaps all over in that video. so its in the realm of possibility since its possible to aim like that and people do aim like that. so I would say just give kresnik the benefit of the doubt :)

sorry to post non tf2 related content but it just reminded me of a situation where people accused that player of cheating because of "aim snaps".
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#1677
3 Frags +

http://www.twitch.tv/kyl3mass3y

and hes back.

http://imgur.com/ogXXvkv.png

http://www.twitch.tv/kyl3mass3y

and hes back.


[img]http://imgur.com/ogXXvkv.png[/img]
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#1678
-1 Frags +
rickjameshttp://www.ugcleague.net/forum/showthread.php?38641-UGC-Platinum-Heavy-quot-Kresnik-quot-Blatantly-Aimbotting
KRESNIK HACKING NOW?!!!!

Because comms aren't a thing

[quote=rickjames]http://www.ugcleague.net/forum/showthread.php?38641-UGC-Platinum-Heavy-quot-Kresnik-quot-Blatantly-Aimbotting
KRESNIK HACKING NOW?!!!![/quote]
Because comms aren't a thing
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#1679
1 Frags +

Chaos Imperius
http://logs.tf/956439

pretty obvious (jumping while revved up)

[url=http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198067375044]Chaos Imperius[/url]
http://logs.tf/956439

pretty obvious (jumping while revved up)
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#1680
-17 Frags +

I thought this thread was about finding ways to prove hacks are being used. All I get from this is cringe

I thought this thread was about finding ways to prove hacks are being used. All I get from this is cringe
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