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i52 - great event, disgraceful viewers
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#1
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Bit of a long rant about us Euro hosts. Sorry.

Even though I haven't been following competitive tf2 for a long time, I was fiercely anticipating i52-my first Insomnia-stream experience- for months. I was hoping it would be an awesome gathering of international teamfortress-aficionados celebrating the video game we all love so dearly. Sure, there would be rivalry, competitive spirit of the highest order and fanaticism, but also a sense of respect- though it seems I was wrong.

Not at all concerning the teams themselves and the awesome production crew, all of which have done a brilliant job by the way. But the fashion in which the European viewers at the event itself behaved was outright shocking to me. Whenever an American team (especially Mixup) scored a point, there was dead silence, no recognition at all, in contrast to the roaring applause for IM successes for instance. I mean I get it, I was rooting for the aussies as well (was hoping they'd compete against my favorite 4G in the final), but at the later elimination stages this behaviour culminated into outright booing for every round won by the US.

Not only is this hugely un-sportsmanlike, but also majorly personally disrespectful to the American players who spent a lot of money out of their own pockets to come here and play some tf2. Even with the fundraiser and prize pot, most of them will lose money. The tip of the iceberg was an actual cast on TFtv2, where some drunk casters directly insulted mixup players and encouraged the crowd to boo them. This completely undermined the professionalsm already established by the rest of the crew. At the last match of Epsi-Mix Seagull had to actually call for a PAUSE ON THE FREAKING GAME because some drunk assholes were harassing them constantly.

What the fuck. Are we all Hooligans, lacking a shred of respect? Our American friends were coming here without support of their fans and obviously people are gonna root for other teams here, but this level of behaviour? Are we really gonna be such bad hosts? Where's the love, or pootis, or whatever?

I know I'm almost certainly overreacting,  and the final tomorrow is gonna be a lot different, but I'm drunk and needed to vent

What did you guys think about the event overall and the stuff I was blabbering about (already forgot)

Bit of a long rant about us Euro hosts. Sorry.

Even though I haven't been following competitive tf2 for a long time, I was fiercely anticipating i52-my first Insomnia-stream experience- for months. I was hoping it would be an awesome gathering of international teamfortress-aficionados celebrating the video game we all love so dearly. Sure, there would be rivalry, competitive spirit of the highest order and fanaticism, but also a sense of respect- though it seems I was wrong.

Not at all concerning the teams themselves and the awesome production crew, all of which have done a brilliant job by the way. But the fashion in which the European viewers at the event itself behaved was outright shocking to me. Whenever an American team (especially Mixup) scored a point, there was dead silence, no recognition at all, in contrast to the roaring applause for IM successes for instance. I mean I get it, I was rooting for the aussies as well (was hoping they'd compete against my favorite 4G in the final), but at the later elimination stages this behaviour culminated into outright booing for every round won by the US.

Not only is this hugely un-sportsmanlike, but also majorly personally disrespectful to the American players who spent a lot of money out of their own pockets to come here and play some tf2. Even with the fundraiser and prize pot, most of them will lose money. The tip of the iceberg was an actual cast on TFtv2, where some drunk casters directly insulted mixup players and encouraged the crowd to boo them. This completely undermined the professionalsm already established by the rest of the crew. At the last match of Epsi-Mix Seagull had to actually call for a PAUSE ON THE FREAKING GAME because some drunk assholes were harassing them constantly.

What the fuck. Are we all Hooligans, lacking a shred of respect? Our American friends were coming here without support of their fans and obviously people are gonna root for other teams here, but this level of behaviour? Are we really gonna be such bad hosts? Where's the love, or pootis, or whatever?

I know I'm almost certainly overreacting,  and the final tomorrow is gonna be a lot different, but I'm drunk and needed to vent

What did you guys think about the event overall and the stuff I was blabbering about (already forgot)
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#2
-98 Frags +

Pretty sure you're an idiot and both the Aussies and Americans were getting a ton of support today.

Pretty sure you're an idiot and both the Aussies and Americans were getting a ton of support today.
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#3
-84 Frags +

its just fun and games man, americans do the same thing

its just fun and games man, americans do the same thing
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#4
-29 Frags +

you're overreacting

you're overreacting
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#5
32 Frags +

Did the drunk guys get kicked out?

Did the drunk guys get kicked out?
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#6
80 Frags +

Thumbs down to drunk idiots who fuck with live events

Thumbs down to drunk idiots who fuck with live events
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#7
21 Frags +

At the last match of Epsi-Mix Seagull had to actually call for a PAUSE ON THE FREAKING GAME because some drunk assholes were harassing them constantly.

Was this actually a thing? Who ever that guy was, I hope a bird takes a poopy on you just for the irony of that.

E: Oke, wow that actually happened.

At the last match of Epsi-Mix Seagull had to actually call for a PAUSE ON THE FREAKING GAME because some drunk assholes were harassing them constantly.

Was this actually a thing? Who ever that guy was, I hope a bird takes a poopy on you just for the irony of that.

E: Oke, wow that actually happened.
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#8
38 Frags +

wow what were they doing to seagull?

wow what were they doing to seagull?
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#9
55 Frags +

I am sitting across from harb and all he does all game is shout about how shit everyone is at the top of his voice. I'd say its all fair game and makes it more entertaining.

I am sitting across from harb and all he does all game is shout about how shit everyone is at the top of his voice. I'd say its all fair game and makes it more entertaining.
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#10
49 Frags +

Euros not cheering for the American teams isn't disrespectful, they're rooting for the euros why would they cheer for the US.

There isn't any reason to boo for them but why would you cheer for them.

If you were at a basketball game, rooting for the Lakers and the other team scored a three would you cheer for them

Harassing and the other stuff you mentioned is pretty bad though.

Euros not cheering for the American teams isn't disrespectful, they're rooting for the euros why would they cheer for the US.

There isn't any reason to boo for them but why would you cheer for them.

If you were at a basketball game, rooting for the Lakers and the other team scored a three would you cheer for them


Harassing and the other stuff you mentioned is pretty bad though.
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#11
74 Frags +

THAT guy that you are referring to was Coleman.( Admirable did the detective work )
I don´t have a problem with Euros not cheering for American teams or vice versa since they are apparently not having the stage near the players but if you actually physically and vocally hinder a player ( nationality obviously does not matter ) from playing/ performing you are just a disgrace. Fuck you

This is what Seagull wrote to me right after that gullywash match

00:16 - mix^ A Seagull @ i52: random drunk euros
00:16 - mix^ A Seagull @ i52: bumping me
00:16 - mix^ A Seagull @ i52: and yelling at me nonstop
00:16 - mix^ A Seagull @ i52: I had to apuse and tell them to fuck off
00:16 - mix^ A Seagull @ i52: almost grabbed a monitor and threw it at his face
00:17 - mix^ A Seagull @ i52: i swear to god if he comes back I will ragequit the match so fucking hard and roll hmi

THAT guy that you are referring to was [b]Coleman[/b].([i] Admirable did the detective work[/i] )
I don´t have a problem with Euros not cheering for American teams or vice versa since they are apparently not having the stage near the players but if you actually physically and vocally hinder a player ( nationality obviously does not matter ) from playing/ performing you are just a disgrace. Fuck you

[i]This is what Seagull wrote to me right after that gullywash match[/i]

00:16 - mix^ A Seagull @ i52: random drunk euros
00:16 - mix^ A Seagull @ i52: bumping me
00:16 - mix^ A Seagull @ i52: and yelling at me nonstop
00:16 - mix^ A Seagull @ i52: I had to apuse and tell them to fuck off
00:16 - mix^ A Seagull @ i52: almost grabbed a monitor and threw it at his face
00:17 - mix^ A Seagull @ i52: i swear to god if he comes back I will ragequit the match so fucking hard and roll hmi
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#12
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Is there a video of the drunk person harassing seagull

Is there a video of the drunk person harassing seagull
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#13
16 Frags +

Clockwork seemed to get used to sitting right by the door today. There was a clip of him playing while people were filing in and out. Can't be ideal.

Clockwork seemed to get used to sitting right by the door today. There was a clip of him playing while people were filing in and out. Can't be ideal.
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#14
91 Frags +

Some guy was screaming in seagulls ear and bumping into him the entire Gullywash map, very frustrating and frankly disrespectful. Seagull stood up to him and he had the balls to sit there and tell seagull to ask nicely for him to move. Absolutely ridiculous. Other than that, the rest of what you are talking about is fine and what we expected playing without home field advantage. Was Was a pleasure otherwise to come and represent NA in some of the most fun and intense matches I've ever played in.

Some guy was screaming in seagulls ear and bumping into him the entire Gullywash map, very frustrating and frankly disrespectful. Seagull stood up to him and he had the balls to sit there and tell seagull to ask nicely for him to move. Absolutely ridiculous. Other than that, the rest of what you are talking about is fine and what we expected playing without home field advantage. Was Was a pleasure otherwise to come and represent NA in some of the most fun and intense matches I've ever played in.
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#15
16 Frags +

Oh looks like we're going to have to have a re-match.

Oh looks like we're going to have to have a re-match.
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#16
40 Frags +
PlatinumSome guy was screaming in seagulls ear and bumping into him the entire Gullywash map, very frustrating and frankly disrespectful. Seagull stood up to him and he had the balls to sit there and tell seagull to ask nicely for him to move. Absolutely ridiculous. Other than that, the rest of what you are talking about is fine and what we expected playing without home field advantage. Was Was a pleasure otherwise to come and represent NA in some of the most fun and intense matches I've ever played in.

youve done us proud

[quote=Platinum]Some guy was screaming in seagulls ear and bumping into him the entire Gullywash map, very frustrating and frankly disrespectful. Seagull stood up to him and he had the balls to sit there and tell seagull to ask nicely for him to move. Absolutely ridiculous. Other than that, the rest of what you are talking about is fine and what we expected playing without home field advantage. Was Was a pleasure otherwise to come and represent NA in some of the most fun and intense matches I've ever played in.[/quote]
youve done us proud
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#17
37 Frags +

bumping seagull during his match? WTF guy

bumping seagull during his match? WTF guy
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#18
83 Frags +

My request for next time:
1. Pause the game
2. Tell TLR whats happening
3. Beat the shit out of that idiot
4. Commence videogaming

That would have made great footage for the i52 Fragmovie Outro

[i]My request for next time:
1. Pause the game
2. Tell TLR whats happening
3. Beat the shit out of that idiot
4. Commence videogaming[/i]

That would have made great footage for the i52 Fragmovie Outro
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#19
57 Frags +

i didn't really think it was that bad until you could hear a lot of at the venue viewers screaming whenever the US team went to a pick class or were pushing through the commentators microphones

i remember someone going spy against iM and everyone immediately yelled spy as loud as they could

i didn't really think it was that bad until you could hear a lot of at the venue viewers screaming whenever the US team went to a pick class or were pushing through the commentators microphones

i remember someone going spy against iM and everyone immediately yelled spy as loud as they could
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#20
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Foxi didn't really think it was that bad until you could hear a lot of at the venue viewers screaming whenever the US team went to a pick class or were pushing through the commentators microphones

i remember someone going spy against iM and everyone immediately yelled spy as loud as they could

Ye I remember that and thought it was super retarded until I was told they are not in the same room as the players. ( still need confirmation on that!)

[quote=Fox]i didn't really think it was that bad until you could hear a lot of at the venue viewers screaming whenever the US team went to a pick class or were pushing through the commentators microphones

i remember someone going spy against iM and everyone immediately yelled spy as loud as they could[/quote]
Ye I remember that and thought it was super retarded until I was told they are not in the same room as the players. ( still need confirmation on that!)
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#21
17 Frags +

yo wouldn't TLR bicep's frighten that euro though?

yo wouldn't TLR bicep's frighten that euro though?
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#22
32 Frags +

You mean european trashcans are shit at spectating AND video games?

Damn, I would have never thought

You mean european trashcans are shit at spectating AND video games?

Damn, I would have never thought
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#23
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Foxi remember someone going spy against iM and everyone immediately yelled spy as loud as they could

That spy did end up getting caught out, but I don't know if it's because they heard the idiots yelling or not.

[quote=Fox]i remember someone going spy against iM and everyone immediately yelled spy as loud as they could[/quote]

That spy did end up getting caught out, but I don't know if it's because they heard the idiots yelling or not.
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#24
14 Frags +

Yo Ploxo, have you never learned from watching Star Wars?
Only sith deal in absolutes
<3

Yo Ploxo, have you never learned from watching Star Wars?
[b]Only sith deal in absolutes[/b]
<3
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#25
30 Frags +

wow coleman is a jerk

wow coleman is a jerk
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#26
-7 Frags +

better than Brazilian soccer fans

better than Brazilian soccer fans
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#27
-73 Frags +

mate imo mixup have been cunts throughout the fucking history of tf2 like especially at major tournaments. seagull knows what team he plays for like whatever shit they get they deserve #ibrokeehtugskeyboard #AYOGURLsugadaddyhoodpussycreepers

mate imo mixup have been cunts throughout the fucking history of tf2 like especially at major tournaments. seagull knows what team he plays for like whatever shit they get they deserve #ibrokeehtugskeyboard #AYOGURLsugadaddyhoodpussycreepers
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#28
39 Frags +

Sideshow, shittalk is part of playing anything competitive. A viewer assaulting a player is not. In fact, in any other sport or esport the person would be kicked out of the fucking venue. Just because harbleu may shittalk does not mean an ass like coleman can mess with them to the point of confrontation.

Sideshow, shittalk is part of playing anything competitive. A viewer assaulting a player is not. In fact, in any other sport or esport the person would be kicked out of the fucking venue. Just because harbleu may shittalk does not mean an ass like coleman can mess with them to the point of confrontation.
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#29
12 Frags +

But a tlr and lansky vs a Coleman and shintaz fist right would be pretty entertaining

But a tlr and lansky vs a Coleman and shintaz fist right would be pretty entertaining
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#30
11 Frags +

!bet NA all

!bet NA all
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