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The Mouse/Mousepad Thread (last updated Sep. 9, 2013)
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My thread on keyboards.

Budget ($20 or less)
- Microsoft Optical Mouse 200 | US $7.40 | UK

[url=http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/12649-the-keyboard-thread]My thread on keyboards.[/url]

[b]Budget ($20 or less)[/b]
- Microsoft Optical Mouse 200 | [url=http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Optical-Mouse-200-Business/dp/B005058AE8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380395791&sr=8-1&tag=teamfortresst-20]US $7.40[/url] | [url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-JUD-00007-Optical-Mouse-200/dp/B003S4514U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1380395841&sr=8-2]UK
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http://www.puretrak.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MP-TALENT

Pure Trak Talent is $25.00 on the website

http://www.puretrak.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MP-TALENT

Pure Trak Talent is $25.00 on the website
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Qck heavy :3

Qck heavy :3
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There

There
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817114174

11" x 17"
$11.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817114174

11" x 17"
$11.99
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/151068553824?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
cheap pad(~$7.50 USD+free shipping), 60x35cm. arrived a month or so ago and I love it, still in perfect condition.
imo only downside is its thickness/weight, pretty thin so might get raised patches. doesn't bother me though.
looks like you're not listing unbranded products but this might catch someone's interest.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151068553824?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
cheap pad(~$7.50 USD+free shipping), 60x35cm. arrived a month or so ago and I love it, still in perfect condition.
imo only downside is its thickness/weight, pretty thin so might get raised patches. doesn't bother me though.
looks like you're not listing unbranded products but this might catch someone's interest.
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add

mice: g100s, wmo 1.1a, ime 3.0, zowie ec1/ec2 evo, ss kana, ss kinzu

mats: artisan hein, artisan hayate, zowie g-tf, puretrak stealth,

add

mice: g100s, wmo 1.1a, ime 3.0, zowie ec1/ec2 evo, ss kana, ss kinzu

mats: artisan hein, artisan hayate, zowie g-tf, puretrak stealth,
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Artisan Hayate
Steelseries Sensei RAW (rubberized) [so so sensor but the feel is just too nice]

Artisan Hayate
Steelseries Sensei RAW (rubberized) [so so sensor but the feel is just too nice]
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Razer Kabuto $19.99.
Would recommend only for small sized desks + high sense users.
I love it! so slick and cool, and feels nice too.

Razer Kabuto $19.99.
Would recommend only for small sized desks + high sense users.
I love it! so slick and cool, and feels nice too.
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+1111111 for Zowie FK

Using it for almost 3 weeks now and it is the best ever.
Outclasses my G400 that I used before by far in every way. Much better build quality, the shape, the design, the sonsor. Supreme mouse.

I used 3 G400 for almost 2 years and the cord always broke within 5-7 months. And with recently Logitech (I called the support several times...) stopping replacing it I don't care if my Zowie is a bit more expensive. It will hopefully last for some more time.

+1111111 for Zowie FK

Using it for almost 3 weeks now and it is the best ever.
Outclasses my G400 that I used before by far in every way. Much better build quality, the shape, the design, the sonsor. Supreme mouse.

I used 3 G400 for almost 2 years and the cord always broke within 5-7 months. And with recently Logitech (I called the support several times...) stopping replacing it I don't care if my Zowie is a bit more expensive. It will hopefully last for some more time.
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I'll also add a +1 for the zowie fk. Awesome mouse.

I'll also add a +1 for the zowie fk. Awesome mouse.
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I've been looking for a new mouse and mousepad, bookmarking this thread!

I've been looking for a new mouse and mousepad, bookmarking this thread!
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Oh, so we are just adding shitty mice to the list for the sake of it or what? If you actually want to make a list at least try and make it a proper list and remove all the laser mice (+the Kana). Also remove the DPI while you are at it, you might as well add the colour of the mouse feet to the list because that says as much about the performance as the DPI.

Oh, so we are just adding shitty mice to the list for the sake of it or what? If you actually want to make a list at least try and make it a proper list and remove all the laser mice (+the Kana). Also remove the DPI while you are at it, you might as well add the colour of the mouse feet to the list because that says as much about the performance as the DPI.
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easyGame+1111111 for Zowie FK

Using it for almost 3 weeks now and it is the best ever.
Outclasses my G400 that I used before by far in every way. Much better build quality, the shape, the design, the sonsor. Supreme mouse.

I used 3 G400 for almost 2 years and the cord always broke within 5-7 months. And with recently Logitech (I called the support several times...) stopping replacing it I don't care if my Zowie is a bit more expensive. It will hopefully last for some more time.

had my g400 for 2 years and a half, good mice need good care

[quote=easyGame]+1111111 for Zowie FK

Using it for almost 3 weeks now and it is the best ever.
Outclasses my G400 that I used before by far in every way. Much better build quality, the shape, the design, the sonsor. Supreme mouse.

I used 3 G400 for almost 2 years and the cord always broke within 5-7 months. And with recently Logitech (I called the support several times...) stopping replacing it I don't care if my Zowie is a bit more expensive. It will hopefully last for some more time.[/quote] had my g400 for 2 years and a half, good mice need good care
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People actually minus frag me for truthbombing. Ok.

People actually minus frag me for truthbombing. Ok.
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http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=114&cp_id=11401&cs_id=1140105&p_id=9279&seq=1&format=2

Amazing cloth mousepad from monoprice. It's huge, with heavy thickness, and it's still perfect after a year of heavy use.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=114&cp_id=11401&cs_id=1140105&p_id=9279&seq=1&format=2

Amazing cloth mousepad from monoprice. It's huge, with heavy thickness, and it's still perfect after a year of heavy use.
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KoeitjeOh, so we are just adding shitty mice to the list for the sake of it or what? If you actually want to make a list at least try and make it a proper list and remove all the laser mice (+the Kana). Also remove the DPI while you are at it, you might as well add the colour of the mouse feet to the list because that says as much about the performance as the DPI.

kana is ok as long as you don't set the dpi above 800, i agree with you on everything else tho

[quote=Koeitje]Oh, so we are just adding shitty mice to the list for the sake of it or what? If you actually want to make a list at least try and make it a proper list and remove all the laser mice (+the Kana). Also remove the DPI while you are at it, you might as well add the colour of the mouse feet to the list because that says as much about the performance as the DPI.[/quote]

kana is ok as long as you don't set the dpi above 800, i agree with you on everything else tho
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Why is the Razer Goliathus Extended cheaper then the normal one anyone know the reason for this?

Why is the Razer Goliathus Extended cheaper then the normal one anyone know the reason for this?
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Zowie AM too

Zowie AM too
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Can't forget about the inside of a cerealbox mousepad.

Can't forget about the inside of a cerealbox mousepad.
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I use the Mionix Naos 3200, and I love the stupid thing to death.

It is a bit pricey, but it's worth it:
Actual Website
Best Buy Page

It's normally $60, but right now it's on sale for $50!

I use the Mionix Naos 3200, and I love the stupid thing to death.

It is a bit pricey, but it's worth it:
[url=mionix.net/products/mionix-3200/]Actual Website[/url]
[url=www.bestbuy.com/site/Naos+3200+Optical+Gaming+Mouse/4610202.p;jsessionid=A8AFE510BEF8DE283E44A4088B2C8748.bbolsp-app01-192?id=1218496067741&skuId=4610202&st=mionix%20naos&cp=1&lp=2]Best Buy Page[/url]

It's normally $60, but right now it's on sale for $50!
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TooniKoeitjeOh, so we are just adding shitty mice to the list for the sake of it or what? If you actually want to make a list at least try and make it a proper list and remove all the laser mice (+the Kana). Also remove the DPI while you are at it, you might as well add the colour of the mouse feet to the list because that says as much about the performance as the DPI.
kana is ok as long as you don't set the dpi above 800, i agree with you on everything else tho

Either way you are better off just waiting for the Kana V2 considering that will have the ADNS-3090

[quote=Tooni][quote=Koeitje]Oh, so we are just adding shitty mice to the list for the sake of it or what? If you actually want to make a list at least try and make it a proper list and remove all the laser mice (+the Kana). Also remove the DPI while you are at it, you might as well add the colour of the mouse feet to the list because that says as much about the performance as the DPI.[/quote]

kana is ok as long as you don't set the dpi above 800, i agree with you on everything else tho[/quote]
Either way you are better off just waiting for the Kana V2 considering that will have the ADNS-3090
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I would add the CM Storm Spawn to the looser budget options. Very nice quality mouse.

I would add the [url=http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Spawn-Optical-Switches/dp/B004RJJMBI/?tag=teamfortresst-20]CM Storm Spawn[/url] to the looser budget options. Very nice quality mouse.
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easyGame+1111111 for Zowie FK

Using it for almost 3 weeks now and it is the best ever.
Outclasses my G400 that I used before by far in every way. Much better build quality, the shape, the design, the sonsor. Supreme mouse.

I used 3 G400 for almost 2 years and the cord always broke within 5-7 months. And with recently Logitech (I called the support several times...) stopping replacing it I don't care if my Zowie is a bit more expensive. It will hopefully last for some more time.

I've used a G400 for over a year now, still no problems with it. The Zowie FK only has a slightly better cable, shape/design is preference, the sensor part is a moot point for both mice. I want a Zowie FK however do to it being a lighter weight mouse for a claw grip which I prefer for gaming.

Also
Why are you adding Laser mice? They're awful compared to optical.
Why are you adding Steel Series mice? They have some of the dumbest inbuilt acceleration I've ever seen. btw you miss linked the Steel Series Sensei.

[quote=easyGame]+1111111 for Zowie FK

Using it for almost 3 weeks now and it is the best ever.
Outclasses my G400 that I used before by far in every way. Much better build quality, the shape, the design, the sonsor. Supreme mouse.

I used 3 G400 for almost 2 years and the cord always broke within 5-7 months. And with recently Logitech (I called the support several times...) stopping replacing it I don't care if my Zowie is a bit more expensive. It will hopefully last for some more time.[/quote]

I've used a G400 for over a year now, still no problems with it. The Zowie FK only has a slightly better cable, shape/design is preference, the sensor part is a moot point for both mice. I want a Zowie FK however do to it being a lighter weight mouse for a claw grip which I prefer for gaming.

Also
Why are you adding Laser mice? They're awful compared to optical.
Why are you adding Steel Series mice? They have some of the dumbest inbuilt acceleration I've ever seen. btw you miss linked the Steel Series Sensei.
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Can also add a few more mice:
Roccat Savu - Solid claw/fingergrip mouse, has solid tracking and a good implementation of the ADNS 3090.

Roccat Kone Pure Optical - Same hardware as the Savu, just a different shape.

The aforementioned Zowie EC2 and AM should also be added, the EC2 being a smaller version of the EC1 that's around the same size as an Intellimouse Optical 1.1 and the AM being something along the lines of a very skinny Xai/Sensei.

In regards to Steel Series mice and accel, only their Kinzu V1 and Xai/Sensei have accel. The V2 Kinzu, KanaV1/V2, and Ikari series don't have accel, the only thing that some of them have is some angle snapping and bad interpolated tracking (Kana V1 at anything above 800dpi).

A few mousepads:
Handstands Supermat - Really inexpensive cloth pad, supposedly very similar to the Qck in terms of feel. Also comes in blue and grey.

Allsop Raindrop XL - Another relatively inexpensive cloth pad, this pad has been around for a number of years and it's still used by a good number of FPS players due to its unique glide. If you want a really slow mousepad then this is it, it's very smooth and quite slow.

Can also add a few more mice:
[url=www.amazon.com/ROCCAT-Mid-Size-Hybrid-Gaming-ROC-11-600/dp/B007MPVRQC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378672900&sr=8-1&keywords=roccat+savu]Roccat Savu[/url] - Solid claw/fingergrip mouse, has solid tracking and a good implementation of the ADNS 3090.

[url=www.amazon.com/ROCCAT-Optical-Performance-Gaming-ROC-11-710/dp/B00DHAD3JU/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1378673154&sr=8-5&keywords=roccat+kone]Roccat Kone Pure Optical[/url] - Same hardware as the Savu, just a different shape.

The aforementioned [url=www.amazon.com/ZOWIE-Optical-Gaming-EC2-eVo-Black/dp/B0080HN5BG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1378673439&sr=8-3&keywords=zowie+am]Zowie EC2[/url] and [url=http://www.amazon.com/Ambidextrous-Optical-Gaming-AM-Black/dp/B0073SX2S4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378673302&sr=8-1&keywords=zowie+am&tag=teamfortresst-20]AM[/url] should also be added, the EC2 being a smaller version of the EC1 that's around the same size as an Intellimouse Optical 1.1 and the AM being something along the lines of a very skinny Xai/Sensei.

In regards to Steel Series mice and accel, only their Kinzu V1 and Xai/Sensei have accel. The V2 Kinzu, KanaV1/V2, and Ikari series don't have accel, the only thing that some of them have is some angle snapping and bad interpolated tracking (Kana V1 at anything above 800dpi).


A few mousepads:
[url=www.amazon.com/HandStands-15S07-Super-Mouse-Pad/dp/B000SR120M/ref=pd_sim_op_2]Handstands Supermat[/url] - Really inexpensive cloth pad, supposedly very similar to the Qck in terms of feel. Also comes in blue and grey.

[url=www.amazon.com/Allsop-Mouse-Pad--Raindrop-Blue/dp/B000XUW8IY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378674637&sr=8-1&keywords=Allsop+Raindrop+xl]Allsop Raindrop XL[/url] - Another relatively inexpensive cloth pad, this pad has been around for a number of years and it's still used by a good number of FPS players due to its unique glide. If you want a really slow mousepad then this is it, it's very smooth and quite slow.
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ComangliaAlso
Why are you adding Laser mice? They're awful compared to optical.

That's pretty well negligible. If your laser mouse is awful, it's because that particular sensor is bad and not the technology in general. I've never had an issue with mine misreading or cutting off or anything, on any surface.

EDIT: To clarify, laser and optical are essentially the exact same technology. One of them generates EMR through an LED, the other does through a laser. They both read them in the same way.

I like my Steelseries mouse because it's sturdy and comfortable as fuck (rubberized Sensei raw). The accel is barely noticeable, you can still build muscle memory for it just as easily as anything else. It's a lot less of an issue than the angle snapping my logitechs have had.

[quote=Comanglia]
Also
Why are you adding Laser mice? They're awful compared to optical.
[/quote]

That's pretty well negligible. If your laser mouse is awful, it's because that particular sensor is bad and not the technology in general. I've never had an issue with mine misreading or cutting off or anything, on any surface.

EDIT: To clarify, laser and optical are essentially the exact same technology. One of them generates EMR through an LED, the other does through a laser. They both read them in the same way.

I like my Steelseries mouse because it's sturdy and comfortable as fuck (rubberized Sensei raw). The accel is barely noticeable, you can still build muscle memory for it just as easily as anything else. It's a lot less of an issue than the angle snapping my logitechs have had.
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Its more or less the same as the FK, but for now I think the Zowie AM is worth listing as well since its still a bit cheaper.

Edit: Oh hey someone said it earlier in the thread, I'll be the first to provide a link then. Sneaky

Its more or less the same as the FK, but for now I think the Zowie AM is worth listing as well since its still a bit cheaper.

Edit: Oh hey someone said it earlier in the thread, I'll be the first to provide a link then. [url=www.amazon.com/Optical-Competitive-Adjustable-AM-GS-Black/dp/B0074Y5M9Y]Sneaky[/url]
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tranchemusicComangliaAlso
Why are you adding Laser mice? They're awful compared to optical.

That's pretty well negligible. If your laser mouse is awful, it's because that particular sensor is bad and not the technology in general. I've never had an issue with mine misreading or cutting off or anything, on any surface.

EDIT: To clarify, laser and optical are essentially the exact same technology. One of them generates EMR through an LED, the other does through a laser. They both read them in the same way.

I like my Steelseries mouse because it's sturdy and comfortable as fuck (rubberized Sensei raw). The accel is barely noticeable, you can still build muscle memory for it just as easily as anything else. It's a lot less of an issue than the angle snapping my logitechs have had.

There is not a single good laser mouse out there. You can't get used to the acceleration on ADNS-9500/9800 mice because it's not linear but more like a sinus wave.

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[quote=tranchemusic][quote=Comanglia]
Also
Why are you adding Laser mice? They're awful compared to optical.
[/quote]

That's pretty well negligible. If your laser mouse is awful, it's because that particular sensor is bad and not the technology in general. I've never had an issue with mine misreading or cutting off or anything, on any surface.

EDIT: To clarify, laser and optical are essentially the exact same technology. One of them generates EMR through an LED, the other does through a laser. They both read them in the same way.

I like my Steelseries mouse because it's sturdy and comfortable as fuck (rubberized Sensei raw). The accel is barely noticeable, you can still build muscle memory for it just as easily as anything else. It's a lot less of an issue than the angle snapping my logitechs have had.[/quote]
There is not a single good laser mouse out there. You can't get used to the acceleration on ADNS-9500/9800 mice because it's not linear but more like a sinus wave.

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I feel where you are coming from Koeitje. It appears as though the OP is a list of all the mice that people use, regardless of whether they are actually good or not. I personally would not recommend a lot of the mice listed because of their objective flaws.

Having said that, Sheep uses a g9x (adns-9500) and it appears as though he isn't struggling that much with the inconsistent nature of its tracking.

I feel where you are coming from Koeitje. It appears as though the OP is a list of all the mice that people use, regardless of whether they are actually good or not. I personally would not recommend a lot of the mice listed because of their objective flaws.

Having said that, Sheep uses a g9x (adns-9500) and it appears as though he isn't struggling that much with the inconsistent nature of its tracking.
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Steelseries 9HD

Also available in a smaller size, called 4HD.

[url=www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Large-Professional-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B002NIGDX0]Steelseries 9HD[/url]

Also available in a smaller size, called [url=www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Professional-Gaming-Mouse-Black/dp/B002J9G5AE]4HD.[/url]
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