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#840 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#839
You've got the opposite of a problem, there's no way you're have to spend 1100$ on this without wasting a third of it.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($76.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Panram Ninja-V 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 285 2GB WINDFORCE 2X Video Card ($162.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $696.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-22 17:21 EST-0500

I mean if you want to stream higher quality you can get an i7. You could also get better PSU but that's pretty much it. Apart from storage there's nothing you could spend money on that would actually get you anything in return.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($76.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Panram Ninja-V 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 285 2GB WINDFORCE 2X Video Card ($162.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($56.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $843.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-22 17:22 EST-0500

#840

phazHe's not as competitive so ethernet isn't needed.]

There are no motherboards without ethernet. There is no reason to spend money on wifi when you've already got ethernet, which is faster, onboard for free.

A few other improvements:
Better mobo, better and cheaper RAM, same GPU only cheaper, cheaper PSU.
If he doesn't need 1TB drop the HDD for an SSD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin ECO2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($31.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 285 2GB WINDFORCE 2X Video Card ($162.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($85.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $564.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-22 17:26 EST-0500

posted about 8 years ago
#4 5ghz connection in Hardware
ghettofishHey everyone,

I have a dual router that has both, 5 and 2.5 ghz networks.

2.4GHz?

ghettofishWe just got one of those smart tvs and we have it connected through the Ethernet port. Would this disable the 5ghz function because it is.

That last sentence doesn't really work. And the answer is no.

ghettofishThe 5ghz signal still shows as long as the 2.5

Again, the sentence seems to be missing a few words.
Also, did it work before?

ghettofishif not does a 5ghz make a true difference in regards to playing tf2?

Higher numbers doesn't mean it's better.
Ethernet would be better than both 2.4 and 5GHz.

posted about 8 years ago
#9 Looking for cheap old decent graphics card. in Hardware
ScrewballI complained about Nvidia whql drivers shutting off the fan on my 480 killing the card out of warranty.ScrewballAvoid Nvidia like the plague unless you have more money than brains. Nvidia cards age like milk.ScrewballWorked fine on my 4890 and shat the bed on my 480 on the same CPU in the same system. Clearly something wasn't right with the 480.

Proceeds to buy that exact nVidia card for brother.

Daily dose of comedy has been administered.

posted about 8 years ago
#835 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Well it worked so far but it's still a ticking bomb. Don't say I didn't warn you if it dies before you upgrade your GPU and takes everything with it.

There's also various quick and dirty fixes for the power button until you get a new case.

posted about 8 years ago
#833 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Get the Arc Mini R2.

Don't get AiO watercooling. It's shit. http://www.teamfortress.tv/post/469342/pc-build-thread
The money you save by going with a high end air cooler easily justifies a more expensive case that can fit proper coolers.

Also that PSU. Those PSUs are the reason why everyone reccommends twice the wattage you actually need. Because once you pull more than 400W from that thing all bets are off. It might just catch fire or it might spike and kill every single component in your pc. I'm not kidding.

posted about 8 years ago
#831 PC Build Thread in Hardware

The NH-D14 is actually fairly small for a 140mm dual tower because technically it's a 120mm dual tower. It just got a 140mm fan in the middle.
The NH-D15 is massive, blocks the top PCIe slot. The D14 doesn't. It doesn't even need a cutout like the D15 because the heatsink ends before the DIMM slots start, RAM with low profile or no heatspreaders easily fit beneath the front fan, for large heatspreaders you just move the fan up a bit.
While the N200 is fairly wide it "only" supports 160mm coolers, "real" 140mm coolers, typically 165-170mm tall, still won't fit. So for example the Phanteks PH-TC14PE (same price as the NH-U12S) won't fit. The D14 does. You could change the case and get a TC14PE if you want.

tl;dr
Yes, the D14 is pretty much an exact fit, down to the mm in terms of height. Don't get anything larger unless you change the case.
RAM and PCIe slots are not affected.

posted about 8 years ago
#829 PC Build Thread in Hardware

So front panel audio just standard.

The NH-U12S is a bit overpriced in the US, you can get an NH-D14 for just 10$ more.

You need a Z170 mobo for overclocking. Z170M-Pro4S or Z170M-D3H if you think you need Sata Express / M.2 SSDs >60mm.

AMD has dropped DVI-I from the high end cards. Also for Fallout 4 on medium and eventually Dark Souls 3 a 285/380 is more than enough. On 1080p that is.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($253.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170M Pro4S Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($159.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.75 @ OutletPC)
Total: $969.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-19 04:04 EST-0500

posted about 8 years ago
#826 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#825
DVI-I/VGA for the CRT?
Front panel audio two outputs or input + output?

OC costs you way more than 40$.
212 is loud and not that good. You plan on dropping 1250$ on that build, don't tell me you can't afford a cooler >25$.
Mobo is more expensive than what you need and full ATX.
RAM is 25$ more expensive than DDR3 because you picked overpriced RAM.
Do you need an 850 Pro? Why? Name one reason. If you can't, get an 850 Evo.
Look at benchmarks. See the 390 outperform the 970. Then look at newer benchmarks with newer drivers. See how outperforms it by a larger margin now. That's all before the big driver overhaul AMD has planned.
Also you don't need either.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2011/11/10/battlefield-3-technical-analysis/4
4 years old games on medium settings would run fine on a toaster. Not quite on integrated graphics but an 80$ GPU would do. Spending >300$ is pointless.
You want a window because your cooler died? And a sound dampened full ATX case to haul around? Wouldn't it make more sense to, you know, just buy a quieter cooler that doesn't die? And a lighter µATX case?
There's one for the CX500M. One. In Swedish.
The CX500M is entry level and not worth buying above 30$. For 50$ you can get the CS550M which is a lot better, the GS 550 which is far better and fully modular or for 55$ the VSM 550 which is better than either of those.

#826
Yes, it will work.

Although I do hate the RM series with a passion. Horribly overpriced and no QC to speak of. It took 3 revisions for some models before they even worked. Corsair is getting back on track, but man were they greedy. Those 2 years, the "tramp stamp era", were horrible. I'm glad it's finally over now.

posted about 8 years ago
#17 Need help finding a new monitor in Hardware
SetsulLightboost / ULMB yes or no?ChairfaceChippendaleI don't care about washed out colors as I can fix that on my own. As long as the monitor has either VGA or HDMI I'm fine with it

1. You can't fix the colours.
2. You will not get 144Hz via HDMI or VGA.

posted about 8 years ago
#14 Need help finding a new monitor in Hardware

#1
Lightboost / ULMB yes or no?
G-Sync yes or no?

#10
Rest assured that the VG248QE is far worse than the XL2411Z.
XL2420T, same panel as XL2411Z.

http://www.prad.de/images/monitore/benq_xl2420t/werk1.jpg

Looks bad right?

Here's the VG248QE

http://www.prad.de/images/monitore/asus_vg248qe/standard.jpg

Look at that gamma.

posted about 8 years ago
#823 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Followup for the thread:
Since the D2 is better than the DG I added him and explained how to abuse the German Consumer Protection Laws to cancel the order for free even though it was already shipped.
We might not get the lowest prices here, but we've got that going for us, which is nice.

posted about 8 years ago
#821 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Wait.

Regarding audio there's 3 options, sorted by cost.
1. Use onboard audio (especially if your old sound card is worse)
2. Get a mobo with a PCI slot instead (e.g. Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P).
3. Get a new sound card (e.g. Xonar DGX).

Yes, read that guide before overclocking.

Wait for midnight shopping if you are going to order anything from mindfactory.

The PSU is ok-ish. Not "might catch fire" territory but definitely below what I would recommend if you bought a new PSU. You're also losing a lot of efficiency since the PSU is intended for a way larger load than what you'll put on it (in addition to disabling idle states).
Voltage regulation is mediocre but not a problem.
The ripple does some nasty stuff though.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cases/psu-550w-850w/gr12.png

The values on the right side are the maximum allowed by ATX spec. It fails.

For comparision a low end PSU, at least as old if not older, but far better behaved.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cases/seasonic-psu-roundup/gr4.png

posted about 8 years ago
#819 PC Build Thread in Hardware

One more thing, I forgot to ask: Is your case ATX or µATX?
That only changes anything if you think you'll need an M.2 SSD >60mm, otherwise the Z170M Pro4S will do just fine. The full ATX version allows for 110mm, although I haven't seen many of those yet. Most are 80mm.

i5-6600K
ASRock Z170 Pro4S
8GB DDR4 RAM 2400MHz CL15 because why not.
Noctua NH-D14

Should be a bit below 500€

Don't forget to disable C6/7 or your PSU might shut off when the pc idles. Maybe get a new PSU once christmas comes around.

posted about 8 years ago
#817 PC Build Thread in Hardware

PSU RS-650-ACAA-D3 or RS-650-ACAA-B3? D3 is older and not Haswell ready.

50€ for DDR4 is a drop in the bucket when you're payingt 450€ for the rest, makes it easier to upgrade and you can use your old stuff for a different pc. Unless you just want to leave it lying around.

Are youg going to build this week or wait until christmas? I'll do a partlist with the most recent prices right before you buy everything.

posted about 8 years ago
#815 PC Build Thread in Hardware

As always, only upgrade if you actually need/want more performance, no point if you're satisfied with what you got.

No, no new CPUs until next year.
Do you want to overclock? Yes, it will get you better fps in TF2, but it will cost you a bit (Z170 mobo + cooler). Don't buy these things if you're not going to overclock.

GPU and PSU should be fine. Check the PSU model though. You'd have to disable some idle states if it's not "Haswell ready".

DDR4 isn't really worth it from a performance standpoint, but it will be easier to upgrade or keep it when replacing the mobo later. It's well within budget and your old CPU + mobo + RAM might be easier to sell as a bundle.

posted about 8 years ago
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