So I've built up what I think is a decent enough rig, I just can't help but feel I can get the same performance for a good $200-300 less.
I'm hoping to have a good streaming setup while still running tf2 at or near max quality at min. 120 fps: I could probably deal with less, I just want to shoot high so that I'll still have a decent computer in a few years.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling ACFZ11-LP Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($31.34 @ TigerDirect Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock B75 PRO3-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($82.85 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($127.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($249.00 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($229.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($164.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: HP W2072a (A3M50AA#ABA) 60Hz 20.0" Monitor
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($279.00 @ Canada Computers)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($97.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1686.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-16 14:08 EDT-0400)
So I've built up what I think is a decent enough rig, I just can't help but feel I can get the same performance for a good $200-300 less.
I'm hoping to have a good streaming setup while still running tf2 at or near max quality at min. 120 fps: I could probably deal with less, I just want to shoot high so that I'll still have a decent computer in a few years.
[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Etmi]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Etmi/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Etmi/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570]Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($219.99 @ NCIX)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/arctic-cooling-cpu-cooler-acfz11lp]Arctic Cooling ACFZ11-LP Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] ($31.34 @ TigerDirect Canada)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b75pro3m]ASRock B75 PRO3-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard[/url] ($82.85 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz16gx3m2a1600c10]Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($127.99 @ Amazon Canada)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7pd256bw]Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk[/url] ($249.00 @ Canada Computers)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n660tf2gd5oc]MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card[/url] ($229.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-sgc5000wkwn1]Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case[/url] ($164.99 @ Canada Computers)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu430cxv2]Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply[/url] ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700404]Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($97.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/hp-monitor-w2072a]HP W2072a (A3M50AA#ABA) 60Hz 20.0" Monitor[/url]
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg248qe]Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor[/url] ($279.00 @ Canada Computers)
[b]Keyboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-keyboard-sgk4000gkcr1us]Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard[/url] ($97.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Mouse:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/razer-mouse-rz0100840100r3u1]Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse[/url] ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Total:[/b] $1686.10
[i](Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/i]
[i](Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-16 14:08 EDT-0400)[/i]
Unless you're streaming/multi tasking a lot I see no need for 16 gigs of ram or an ssd. Cut the case toe a $50-60 one and get a better psu. $60 1tb hdd should be fine, or maybe a 60gb ssd just for windows and tf2 if you really want.
Unless you're streaming/multi tasking a lot I see no need for 16 gigs of ram or an ssd. Cut the case toe a $50-60 one and get a better psu. $60 1tb hdd should be fine, or maybe a 60gb ssd just for windows and tf2 if you really want.
u have 2 monitors and if that keyboard isnt mechanical better off with a a $5 dell one
u have 2 monitors and if that keyboard isnt mechanical better off with a a $5 dell one
You don't need a aftermarket CPU cooler(-$32), the boxed intel cooler will do fine if you don't overclock much. Put that toward a better GPU, like a 760 http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx760dc2oc2gd5(+$30)
You can also cut costs by getting a cheap case, or reusing your current one. http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-rc361kkn1 again, unless you are overclocking, you dont need massive airflow.(-$120)
Go with win7 over win8.(same price for a better os)(-$0)
For storage, get a 1TB 7200RPM and a 32GB SSD. (-$100)
Boom, $100+ saved
You don't need a aftermarket CPU cooler(-$32), the boxed intel cooler will do fine if you don't overclock much. Put that toward a better GPU, like a 760 http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx760dc2oc2gd5(+$30)
You can also cut costs by getting a cheap case, or reusing your current one. http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-rc361kkn1 again, unless you are overclocking, you dont need massive airflow.(-$120)
Go with win7 over win8.(same price for a better os)(-$0)
For storage, get a 1TB 7200RPM and a 32GB SSD. (-$100)
Boom, $100+ saved
1) drop the ssd for a 1tb hd
2) get a better psu
3) drop the matx mobo unless you really need the space. i doubt you do since your case is a full tower.
3) tone down the ram to 2x4gb
4) pitch in another 30$ and get a 760.
1) drop the ssd for a 1tb hd
2) get a better psu
3) drop the matx mobo unless you really need the space. i doubt you do since your case is a full tower.
3) tone down the ram to 2x4gb
4) pitch in another 30$ and get a 760.
your processor is on the way out.
get a smaller ssd and buy a decent sized hdd.
windows is free somewhere on the net.
your processor is on the way out.
get a smaller ssd and buy a decent sized hdd.
windows is free somewhere on the net.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($257.75 @ Vuugo)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($134.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.88 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.50 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: HP W2072a (A3M50AA#ABA) 60Hz 20.0" Monitor
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($279.00 @ Canada Computers)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($97.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1546.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-16 14:49 EDT-0400)
Put this together inbetween classes so its probably not the best config but its something along the lines of what i would probably get if i were to look for a pc w/ that budget. If you're really itching to burn the 100$ saved, put it into a small-ish ssd for your OS.
[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1EuoE]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1EuoE/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1EuoE/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k]Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($234.99 @ NCIX)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2]Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] ($29.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77extreme4]ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard[/url] ($129.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/patriot-memory-pv38g160c9k]Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($63.99 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex]Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($66.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx760dc2oc2gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card[/url] ($257.75 @ Vuugo)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-rc932kkn5gp]Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case[/url] ($134.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu650txv2]Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply[/url] ($74.88 @ Canada Computers)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/lg-optical-drive-gh24ns95]LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($17.50 @ Vuugo)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700404]Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($97.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/hp-monitor-w2072a]HP W2072a (A3M50AA#ABA) 60Hz 20.0" Monitor[/url]
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg248qe]Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor[/url] ($279.00 @ Canada Computers)
[b]Keyboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-keyboard-sgk4000gkcr1us]Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard[/url] ($97.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Mouse:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/razer-mouse-rz0100840100r3u1]Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse[/url] ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Total:[/b] $1546.02
[i](Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/i]
[i](Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-16 14:49 EDT-0400)[/i]
Put this together inbetween classes so its probably not the best config but its something along the lines of what i would probably get if i were to look for a pc w/ that budget. If you're really itching to burn the 100$ saved, put it into a small-ish ssd for your OS.
Unless you really hate the metro interface and are too lazy to install startisback (or whatever other program), windows 8 is better. Feel like everyone just wants to join the bandwagon and hate on w8 even without using it
Arkanoid0Go with win7 over win8.(same price for a better os)(-$0)
Unless you really hate the metro interface and are too lazy to install startisback (or whatever other program), windows 8 is better. Feel like everyone just wants to join the bandwagon and hate on w8 even without using it
[quote=Arkanoid0]
Go with win7 over win8.(same price for a better os)(-$0)
[/quote]
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1EuI8]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1EuI8/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1EuI8/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k]Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($229.99 @ Amazon)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk017]Be Quiet DARK ROCK PRO 2 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87xd3h]Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($139.98 @ Outlet PC)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f314900cl9d8gbsr]G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory[/url] ($61.20 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te120bw]Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk[/url] ($99.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex]Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n760tf2gd5oc]MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card[/url] ($259.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-400r]Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-capstone650m]Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply[/url] ($104.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg248qe]Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor[/url] ($266.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Total:[/b] $1373.09
[i](Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/i]
[i](Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-16 15:01 EDT-0400)[/i]
I'll just say if you don't really care about laws their are ways to getting around the windows cost.
Honestly you don't need 16GB of Ram even if you're streaming. You can try 8GB of RAM and save about $40-$50
128GB SSD You'll save about $90
Pretty sure a logitech G400s is $10 cheaper but not 100% sure on that nvm it is cheaper. Both of them are similar in size and top notch mice so I don't see a big issue for changing over if possible.
A $164 case is a bit ridiculous there is a plethora of GREAT Cases for $70-$100 w/o mail in rebate if that's what you're avoiding.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: MSI ZH77A-G43 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($86.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.65 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($133.07 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($267.85 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($73.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($279.00 @ Canada Computers)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($97.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Mouse: Logitech G400s Wired Optical Mouse ($48.98 @ NCIX)
Total: $1501.47
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-16 15:06 EDT-0400)
I did pick A Higher Quality Motherboard, Power Supply, and Video Card. Also switched you from Win 8 to Win 7. You did have a non-unlocked CPU and aftermarket cooling which is mostly pointless.
-edit-
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Evjm
haswell build instead, slightly lower quality PSU compare to the rosewill but still good. same price
I'll just say if you don't really care about laws their are ways to getting around the windows cost.
Honestly you don't need 16GB of Ram even if you're streaming. You can try 8GB of RAM and save about $40-$50
128GB SSD You'll save about $90
Pretty sure a logitech G400s is $10 cheaper [s]but not 100% sure on that[/s] nvm it is cheaper. Both of them are similar in size and top notch mice so I don't see a big issue for changing over if possible.
A $164 case is a bit ridiculous there is a plethora of GREAT Cases for $70-$100 w/o mail in rebate if that's what you're avoiding.
[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1EuQ3]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1EuQ3/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1EuQ3/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k]Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($234.99 @ NCIX)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2]Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] ($29.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-zh77ag43]MSI ZH77A-G43 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard[/url] ($86.00 @ Vuugo)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m2a1600c9]Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($71.65 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7pd128bw]Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk[/url] ($133.07 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42762kr]EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card[/url] ($267.85 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-caph410b1]NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($79.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-capstone450m]Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply[/url] ($73.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc02050]Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($97.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg248qe]Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor[/url] ($279.00 @ Canada Computers)
[b]Keyboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-keyboard-sgk4000gkcr1us]Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard[/url] ($97.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Mouse:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/logitech-mouse-910003589]Logitech G400s Wired Optical Mouse[/url] ($48.98 @ NCIX)
[b]Total:[/b] $1501.47
[i](Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/i]
[i](Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-16 15:06 EDT-0400)[/i]
I did pick A Higher Quality Motherboard, Power Supply, and Video Card. Also switched you from Win 8 to Win 7. You did have a non-unlocked CPU and aftermarket cooling which is mostly pointless.
-edit-
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Evjm
haswell build instead, slightly lower quality PSU compare to the rosewill but still good. same price
Just remember that if you switch to a graphics card that is not nvidia, you will not be able to use lightboost on you 144hz moniter (unless I am mistaken?)
Just remember that if you switch to a graphics card that is not nvidia, you will not be able to use lightboost on you 144hz moniter (unless I am mistaken?)
KronitonJust remember that if you switch to a graphics card that is not nvidia, you will not be able to use lightboost on you 144hz moniter (unless I am mistaken?)
You're wrong.
[quote=Kroniton]Just remember that if you switch to a graphics card that is not nvidia, you will not be able to use lightboost on you 144hz moniter (unless I am mistaken?)[/quote]
You're wrong.
Best i can do is:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.75 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($106.08 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($257.75 @ Vuugo)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: HP W2072a (A3M50AA#ABA) 60Hz 20.0" Monitor
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($279.00 @ Canada Computers)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($97.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1420.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-16 15:30 EDT-0400)
Better performance and cheaper. You can get even better performance if you are willing to spend some additional $.
EDIT: Canadian prices.
Best i can do is:
[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1EuTR]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1EuTR/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1EuTR/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54570]Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($199.75 @ DirectCanada)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrb10212pg1]Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] ($24.79 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-h87plus]Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($106.08 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml8gx3m1a1600c10]Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($76.99 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te120bw]Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk[/url] ($104.79 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx760dc2oc2gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card[/url] ($257.75 @ Vuugo)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-s210001]NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($69.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu430cxv2]Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply[/url] ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700404]Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($97.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/hp-monitor-w2072a]HP W2072a (A3M50AA#ABA) 60Hz 20.0" Monitor[/url]
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg248qe]Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor[/url] ($279.00 @ Canada Computers)
[b]Keyboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-keyboard-sgk4000gkcr1us]Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard[/url] ($97.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Mouse:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/razer-mouse-rz0100840100r3u1]Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse[/url] ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Total:[/b] $1420.08
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Better performance and cheaper. You can get even better performance if you are willing to spend some additional $.
EDIT: Canadian prices.
Switch out that $20 psu, other wise that's good^
Switch out that $20 psu, other wise that's good^
Before you go out and spend 250 dollars on an SSD you should get a better mobo and PSU in my opinion. An SSD is more of a luxury, especially if you are on a budget, and even if you get an SSD, I would just get a small one with just your OS on it, like a 60 GB one. It's really nice to have but it's not really necessary. You could be spending less than 100 on a 60GB SSD and upgrading your mobo and PSU a little more and maybe stepping up your GPU too, things that will give you better performance in-game.
Before you go out and spend 250 dollars on an SSD you should get a better mobo and PSU in my opinion. An SSD is more of a luxury, especially if you are on a budget, and even if you get an SSD, I would just get a small one with just your OS on it, like a 60 GB one. It's really nice to have but it's not really necessary. You could be spending less than 100 on a 60GB SSD and upgrading your mobo and PSU a little more and maybe stepping up your GPU too, things that will give you better performance in-game.
SetsulBest i can do is:
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Better performance and cheaper. You can get even better performance if you are willing to spend some additional $.
Lower Quality SSD (it has lower Read speeds, and MUCH lower write speeds)
Significantly Lower Quality Case (sure it'll work but it isn't that great for cooling or cable management)
No Dual Channel RAM?
The User lives in Canada, most US prices will not apply to them sadly. Also I think Spyromancer already owns a HP W2072a because it's not priced in his original part list when it could be.
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Locked CPU and you have a aftermarket cooler, doesn't make sense.
[quote=Setsul]Best i can do is:
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Better performance and cheaper. You can get even better performance if you are willing to spend some additional $.[/quote]
Lower Quality SSD (it has lower Read speeds, and MUCH lower write speeds)
Significantly Lower Quality Case (sure it'll work but it isn't that great for cooling or cable management)
No Dual Channel RAM?
The User lives in Canada, most US prices will not apply to them sadly. Also I think Spyromancer already owns a HP W2072a because it's not priced in his original part list when it could be.
-edit-
Locked CPU and you have a aftermarket cooler, doesn't make sense.
Wow, thanks a bunch guys, $*200 (Canada prices) back in my pocket only an hour after asking :)
I'll probably tweak setsul's list a bit, big ups to everyone who posted.
Wow, thanks a bunch guys, $*200 (Canada prices) back in my pocket only an hour after asking :)
I'll probably tweak setsul's list a bit, big ups to everyone who posted.
#16
EVO > Pro. There's a lot more to it than the basic (sequential) read/write speeds. Bigger SSDs are always faster, you'd have to compare with a 128GB 840 Pro.
Case is a lot about what you want. 20$ more or less can get you what you want so i just took the most basic case that would work to get a minimal price.
Dual Channel vs Single Channel doesn't make much of a difference, bandwidth isn't really a problem for games. Timings do way more (read: +3% max).
Edited for prices.
Aftermarket cooler: Cooler and more importantly more quiet. Can be dropped though.
#17
This is what i had in mind. ;-)
#16
EVO > Pro. There's a lot more to it than the basic (sequential) read/write speeds. Bigger SSDs are always faster, you'd have to compare with a 128GB 840 Pro.
Case is a lot about what you want. 20$ more or less can get you what you want so i just took the most basic case that would work to get a minimal price.
Dual Channel vs Single Channel doesn't make much of a difference, bandwidth isn't really a problem for games. Timings do way more (read: +3% max).
Edited for prices.
Aftermarket cooler: Cooler and more importantly more quiet. Can be dropped though.
#17
This is what i had in mind. ;-)
Setsul#16
Dual Channel vs Single Channel doesn't make much of a difference, bandwidth isn't really a problem for games. Timings do way more (read: +3% max).
Yet you got CAS 10 RAM for more $$$.
[quote=Setsul]#16
Dual Channel vs Single Channel doesn't make much of a difference, bandwidth isn't really a problem for games. Timings do way more (read: +3% max).[/quote]
Yet you got CAS 10 RAM for more $$$.
To cut costs you can close the fridge in between uses, turn off the lights when you leave rooms, re use water bottles or buy a kleen canteen/britta filter bottle, make sure you have no windows open when trying to heat the house during the winter, and definitely don't get married and/or have kids.
To cut costs you can close the fridge in between uses, turn off the lights when you leave rooms, re use water bottles or buy a kleen canteen/britta filter bottle, make sure you have no windows open when trying to heat the house during the winter, and definitely don't get married and/or have kids.
zilisSetsul#16
Dual Channel vs Single Channel doesn't make much of a difference, bandwidth isn't really a problem for games. Timings do way more (read: +3% max).
Yet you got CAS 10 RAM for more $$$.
My clicking skills failed me.
Didn't notice that.
[quote=zilis][quote=Setsul]#16
Dual Channel vs Single Channel doesn't make much of a difference, bandwidth isn't really a problem for games. Timings do way more (read: +3% max).[/quote]
Yet you got CAS 10 RAM for more $$$.[/quote]
My clicking skills failed me.
Didn't notice that.
Changed the prices to Canada.
<1400, no overclock
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Ewte
If you're willing to spend ~100 more for better performance.
<1500, overclocking
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1EwzP
Changed the prices to Canada.
<1400, no overclock
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Ewte
If you're willing to spend ~100 more for better performance.
<1500, overclocking
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1EwzP
From your original build, for the price of that 660, you can get a 7950 for probably a bit less, comes with three free games and can compete with the 760.
From your original build, for the price of that 660, you can get a 7950 for probably a bit less, comes with three free games and can compete with the 760.
7950 overclocked is way better than 760 which is basically a 660 ti (not that it even matters given we're talking about tf2). But does this build need to be for only tf2, or for other games like crysis/skyrim/farcyry/whatever
7950 overclocked is way better than 760 which is basically a 660 ti (not that it even matters given we're talking about tf2). But does this build need to be for only tf2, or for other games like crysis/skyrim/farcyry/whatever
switch the 16GB @ 1600mhz for 8gb @ 2133mhz for about the same price (a little cheaper i think) and better performance
switch the 16GB @ 1600mhz for 8gb @ 2133mhz for about the same price (a little cheaper i think) and better performance
Please don't skimp on the PSU, it really is one of the most important components in a PC and having a low quality PSU will cause huge problems down the line.
Please don't skimp on the PSU, it really is one of the most important components in a PC and having a low quality PSU will cause huge problems down the line.
Daggerswitch the 16GB @ 1600mhz for 8gb @ 2133mhz for about the same price (a little cheaper i think) and better performance
For gaming, not worth it, unless you're using APU.
[quote=Dagger]switch the 16GB @ 1600mhz for 8gb @ 2133mhz for about the same price (a little cheaper i think) and better performance[/quote]
For gaming, not worth it, unless you're using APU.
As everyone has probably already mentioned:
- 16gb memory is unnecessary, go with 8gb
- 256gb ssd is likely unnecessary. I have windows, tf2, along with a couple other smaller games on my 128gb, and I still have 30gbs free
- $165 case is unnecessary, with my budget of about $1300 (mouse, to monitor, to everything) I got a $65 case that works perfectly fine. I wouldn't got beyond $100 for a case
- you could probably upgrade the power supply to something a little more powerful, I'm not an expert on that though
As everyone has probably already mentioned:
- 16gb memory is unnecessary, go with 8gb
- 256gb ssd is likely unnecessary. I have windows, tf2, along with a couple other smaller games on my 128gb, and I still have 30gbs free
- $165 case is unnecessary, with my budget of about $1300 (mouse, to monitor, to everything) I got a $65 case that works perfectly fine. I wouldn't got beyond $100 for a case
- you could probably upgrade the power supply to something a little more powerful, I'm not an expert on that though
I tried my best:
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[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670]Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($229.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-h87me]Asus H87M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($94.20 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-memory-ae38g1609u2]AMD 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($44.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($64.50 @ Vuugo)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx760dc2oc2gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card[/url] ($257.75 @ Vuugo)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc9011028ww]Corsair 350D MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($86.19 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm]SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply[/url] ($94.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700404]Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($97.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg248qe]Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor[/url] ($279.00 @ Canada Computers)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-gw2255]BenQ GW2255 60Hz 21.5" Monitor[/url] ($119.99 @ Canada Computers)
[b]Keyboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-keyboard-sgk4000gkcl1us]Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard[/url] ($67.50 @ Vuugo)
[b]Mouse:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/razer-mouse-rz0100152400r3m1]Razer DeathAdder Black Edition Wired Optical Mouse[/url] ($49.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Total:[/b] $1487.07
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